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'I just want to be there, but not be in the way': Coach K adopts to life without coaching
Former Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski talks about being away from the position he held for 42 years for the first time.
I haven't seen you Mike Yastrzemski in such a long time. How have you been? X. X. Cm Great. Very happy busy. Uh, you know, good and doing a lot more with my grandkids and uh no very happy. So is that what you've been up to? Like you've had your first free september in a long time. Is that what you've been doing mostly? No, you know, I've been doing a lot. I speak for the Washington speakers bro. So Since August I bet I've had like 15 engagements in different parts of the country. And so I've been on the road a lot and but I I like that and that I've learned, you know, I've really enjoyed the study of leadership and teamwork and and I've learned a lot doing that and I'm also a professor at our few quit school business so I don't have a class but I'll do some lectures And uh and then we just started our Sirius XM show our 18th year. And uh so I've actually been pretty busy and been doing everything that I like and and continuing to learn. You did all those, you did most of these things while you were still coaching by the way, basketball and beyond is an award winner. How come you didn't, you should have thrown that in at the front of your Sirius XM show. Yeah. Well the uh you know actually uh our our guest this week are Joey Logano and dusty baker nice. We get the best people and uh, you know, I to be quite frankly that I didn't do the speaking. I never did a speaking engagement during this season and uh, or the summers that I coached the US team. So that's been different. And uh, and the amount that I've done, uh, and I'll find a good place there as to how much I want to do with it. Mike Wazowski is joining us here on the Adam gold show. So I'm just curious. Monday night. Yeah, I'm sure you watched the game. Where, where were you when you watched the game? Were you at home? Yeah, we, my wife and I watched it at home and uh, um, and worked out great. You know, after the sent john a short text after the game. And, and then, uh, we talked a little bit the next day. Uh, you know, if I see a couple of things, obviously he's coaching his team, he's doing a great job. But uh, what I try to do is just be there when he wants to talk and I'll pop in a practice once a week or if he wanted me to be, if they're scrimmaging or whatever now that they're in games, uh, you know, to watch a game. And yeah, I might ask him a question. And uh, but, you know, we have a great, great relationship and I don't, I don't wanna, I just want to be there, but not be in the way Mike Wazowski is joining us here. Is it hard to remove yourself from it? I mean, you obviously you're busy in doing so many other things, but this has been your life and duke basketball has been your life for such a long time now. Is it hard to remove yourself? You know, it has adam and it hasn't been and I think, you know, really like when john coached his first game This week, that was, he's been a, like a head coach in waiting or a head coach since April uh, for 17 months. And so there was a great run runway for recruiting a couple of classes but also a runway for me to move on. You know, and I think if you stay with it, it's because of the, you know, a lot of the kids are the same. You know, uh, there are only two guys from last year's team on, on our squad. There are weather new guys. I think that's helped, you know, when you know that and I think you have a harder time moving on. Like say you returned eight guys and you know, the relationships that you have and my relationships really are with the coaching staff and uh, and I've gotten to know j Lucas really well. That was a great addition to the staff. Mike Wazowski is with us here on the adam gold show. I, I do want to ask you about coaching because I've had conversations with laval Moten and Rod Brenda more very recently and we just talked more broadly about coaching and your name came up really in both conversations. Uh, so I was just, I'm curious what, what you view as the most important part of coaching. Well the individual relationship that you have with each player is paramount because it, it builds to the relationship you have with the entire team and if you only have developed a relationship with a team, I don't think it gets as deep as it does when you're trying to do both and, but you use as a foundation, the, the individual relationships that you have and you know, that's tough for a football coach, but it's it and maybe even hockey because you have, you know more, but uh for basketball you should be able to do that. You know, they're going to be 12, 11, 12, 13 guys and uh, you should know them, they should know you and uh, there should be individual motivation and collective motivation uh, and uh, but the deeper you can get with the individual, I think it really helps getting deep with with the unit and this might be harder today in the way the college game works now with transfers and players coming in and not staying very long. But in the, in the case of Rod and I've gotten to know Rod very well. I've always felt that he has been able to get his players to care as much about the cause as he cares about the cause and he cares about them And that, that dynamic is, that's very hard to develop in a short period of time. No, no, it is. And I'll say this about him, I, I really like him a lot. Uh, he may say they get to his level, they don't, his level is really are good man. He, but if they come close to that, then they're going to be better people and better players because you know, no one, he, yeah, he's right there as far as competitiveness and passion and, and, and commitment, you know, at the highest level. And uh, that's why he's had the success that he's had. Yeah, he has a, a knack for making you feel like you're a part of it. Even if you're not, he actually said that to me once, which is bizarre. But he makes you feel like you are part of the team as well. Who's been your favorite type of person? Not your, you've had so many people on it. It's gonna be hard to beat just the World Series managerial champion and Dusty baker tonight. But who's been your favorite type of people to have on basketball and beyond. Oh, you know, to me see, I think people open up on our show so like they, they're not doing an interview. You know, there were having a conversation. So I like the fact that they let me in, you know, and they're comfortable and I take notes all the time uh, during the show, but there's not one, you know, actually Dusty was on before one time before and he's brilliant. I mean he's not smart. He's brilliant. Uh, I gotta get a toothpick though because if we do it on, Yeah, the thing for him is, yeah. Uh, advertise doing commercials. There are toothpick commercials, right? Otherwise he would hammer that market. You would be there. Maybe now there might be like a boutique type of toothpicks. Can't Nike make a toothpick. Nike can do anything man. But I'm not sure they want to make a toothpick. You couldn't put the swoosh on a toothpick. They could figure out how to do that. I don't, I wouldn't say that. I just, I would say that they're probably making a hell of a lot more money doing it on shoes and apparel. You can mass produce a toothpick though pretty quickly. Uh, Mike Stachowski is with us. Here's another question. This is sort of about coaching, I guess. Uh, did you ever self scout yourself not as a not as a coach, but just like for instance, I listen to sometimes I will listen to the show uh, after I've done it or an interview after I've done it and said, man, I should have asked this or I should have asked it a different way. Did you ever self scout yourself in certain ways? Yeah, yeah, you do that. Well one you do it as a coach because you critique your performance and what your decision making was. But yeah, especially public speaking, especially when I started, I would watch and say I use this term too much or I need to have better body movements here or how could I have forgotten? I don't use notes when I speak publicly, but I should never have forgotten that. I usually don't do anything with an interview because you do too many of them not enough time. But uh, you know, if we put out something, uh, like they uh they just put out that documentary on the redeem team, you know, before it went out, we were able to watch it and critique it and uh, added or deleted stuff and uh, yeah, you, you know, in order to get better, you have to be honest with your yourself, just like your honest with a player or you know, with uh with a team or you know, a unit that you, you're leading and uh, you know, you can always get better, uh you can, you can always learn more and, and so the self analysis or uh, you know, really when I, when I spoke to the team, I would always ask Jon Scheyer or Jeff Capel or Wojo or whoever it was, what do you think was that okay coach, that was great and they don't know who that guy was that you were talking about, You know, like, And if that had no, that's happened and when that does happen? I start laughing then I'd get the team together? Okay. You knuckleheads? You don't know who I said. And that's like the greatest guy from the 70's And uh, you know your damn history. All right. Here's a guy from the last decade. Do you know who the hell he is? Yeah, that's who I should have said. So, let's go. Let's start practice final final thing for you because I know you have a busy day and I have so we we can't monopolize it. I appreciate always you've been, I tell this to people all the time. I've been doing this now for 25 years. And uh, nobody was better to me who had no business being better to me at the beginning than you were. So I always want. I've always wanted to tell you that I haven't had that many opportunities lately. So Well, you know, I looked at you and I thought, you know, I give to charity and uh, It was in my religion. They call it offering up. And uh, but anyway, I used you just saw you, you know that that's fine. I'm I'm happy to be used. I'm curious. My son is has become an enormous basketball fan. And every day we have about a 30 minute ride to school and every day he goes through NBA box scores and just reads me box scores like half the league played for you? How do you how do you keep up with with all of these guys? Do you uh do you stay in touch with them? Do you have you gotten a chance to go to games much? How do you how do you do that? Well I should drive yourself to school because we do the same thing every morning. I look at all the box scores and see where our guys, you know because uh and if he's not in a box score like paolo was hurt, I didn't know that he was hurt play last night. So then I'll text how the heck are you and uh I haven't done that yet and uh no I keep track and then some of the guys want you to keep track more than other guys and and uh and same thing with the guys on the U. S. Teams. Uh you know like the after I watched Mickey and I watched my wife and I watched the redeem team the first night it was uh the next morning I text Duane and and Lebron, Dwayne wade and Lebron and and uh just told them what a great job they did and how unselfish they were in honoring Kobe and they got back right away and yeah you want to maintain relationships if they can be retained. But again some people, you know they don't want to do that, that's not not that's okay too. You have family. You have you have a whole bunch of other things. But for the most part we maintain pretty good relationships. Have you ever sent a text to Lebron and he doesn't get back to you. Lebron gets back quicker than anybody. He will, he, no, he does and I love him and he uh yeah, he was so critical for us, winning those uh two of the three gold medals. I've always said about Lebron that no league has ever had a better front facing player, Yeah, than Lebron James. And the NBA was, well, not only that one last thing about him, you know, he has shown how to develop other things as a result of being a basketball player, he is amazingly successful and he, you know with his friends that he grew up with, they are all doing great things, but while they did that, not because he gave them he gave them a little bit of an opportunity, but they went to school, they went to work, they They work together really. His story is is a heck of a story, it's tremendous and he's super smart and very intuitive as well. I appreciate your time. Mike Wazowski, uh best of luck with basketball and beyond in year 18. I appreciate it. Well, remind your son of tomorrow when you're going through scores, you know, I know one other person that's doing that exactly at this time here. So I won't say who coach K there you go. He's doing it. Thank you so much. Talk to you, sir. Bye.