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Downtown living means late-night noise

Posted August 5, 2008
Updated August 6, 2008

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— City officials are trying to strike a balance between downtown growth and providing residents with some respite from nighttime noise.

More than 400 condominiums are expected to become available by the end of the year, bringing an estimated 1,000 new residents downtown.

"We have requirements that you do not disturb residents at night, but at the same time, people who live in Glenwood South enjoy that 18-hour experience of having entertainment right in the backyard," Raleigh Planning Director Mitchell Silver said.

Solas is the latest option in the Glenwood South district. The three-story venue, which opens Thursday, features a ground-floor restaurant, a dance club on the second floor and a rooftop patio and bar.

"It's nice to give them different options," Solas owner Niall Hanley said. "What I'm essentially doing here is opening three different businesses. It just happens that they're stacked in the same place."

Silver said Raleigh wants to attract more retailers downtown, including a grocery store. Hanley said having people and businesses in close proximity is the nature of city living, and residents need to become accustomed to late-night noise.

"(Downtown residents) want to be able to walk out, get a cup of coffee, come up (to Solas' patio) to have a bottle of champagne, go downstairs (to the restaurant) and have a steak. That's the nice thing about living in a city. We need to start to accept that we're growing," he said.

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  • foetine Aug 6, 2008

    Is Glenwood South really downtown? When I lived on Peace Street, nobody called it Downtown.

    When did Cameron village become downtown? Enough of letting the Vultures draw the maps..

    People will complain about noise and why can't they shut down the bars at a reasonable hour. We're still in the South. And what's the point of an outside bar that has an amazing view of a parking deck and that hideous state building?

  • tjdebord Aug 6, 2008

    Seems to me if you're going to write an article on a new place of business it would be fundamental to give the address. Glenwood South IS more than one block.

  • ncwebguy Aug 6, 2008

    Where did WRAL find anyone complaining about noise? Oh wait, they didn't.

    Glenwood Towers residents are the closest, and won't hear anything from Solas, Red Room, or anyplace else. The motorcycles are a lot louder than the bars and restaurants on Glenwood South and the rest of downtown.

    The only people complaining about noise are ones who are nowhere near it but have to complain about anything that doesn't reflect their desire to make the rest of the city bow to their unrealistic standards.

  • hedgy_one Aug 6, 2008

    I would have loved to be able to live downtown when I was younger.... now I would enjoy it for the vibrance and convenience... but, I don't plan to move from my "inside the beltline close to downtown" location.... Being a Raleigh native, I have seen lots of change here. And, not all of it is bad.

  • RaleighRob Aug 6, 2008

    This article is strange and confusing. No one who is sensitive to noise would live in the downtown core anyways. So how is this an issue?

  • Hasbeen Aug 6, 2008

    ""Typically, I see this mind set in the frozen minded fools from the Mason side of the line. You move to a place because you perceive it to be better than where you came from, and when you get there you want to change it into the hovel you just left!""

    Where do you typically see this mind set? Do you personally interact with the thousands of former Masonside-ites. You have not yet read my mind. Have you spent a great deal of time ouside Dixie? Truthfully, the typical American suburb I came from was no Hovel (19034, Google it), which is similar to where most of the highly educated transplants are coming from. You should thank your State govt for having the foresight to see that millwork and and other manufacturing were coming to an end and had the foresight to develop industries and jobs for today and tomorrow. NC could be Mississippi. And to speak of frozen mindsets is a bit hypocritical. Doncha think??? Look in a mirror. As I've said before, I love it here. You move.

  • chivegas Aug 6, 2008

    "I really do not understand how anyone could want to live in the downtown of a city." People that have a social life would disagree.

    I used to live in a high rise in the River North area of DT Chicago. It was noisy 24 hours a day (I lived 2 blocks from a fire station), but all I had to do to quiet it was to close my balcony door... If people are complaining about noise, they need to consult their contractor and have them (re)build them a quieter dwelling

  • abeille Aug 6, 2008

    What is the point of this article? Contrary to what some of you think, nowhere does the story say that downtown residents are complaning about noise! The guy even says that residents "enjoy that 18-hour experience of having entertainment right in the backyard." Try reading it first! It's about the city's planning efforts to establish policies before there is a problem. Most likely these policies will apply to building codes - so they don't build suburban quality buildings in a place the city.

    I live in Glenwood South, right off Glenwood. I used to live in NW Raleigh in a "luxury" apartment complex off of Grove Barton Rd. I can say that I experience less noise inside my apartment in Glenwood South than I did in North Raleigh - even with a bar with outdoor seating and live music less than 20 yards from my bedroom window.

    Some people enjoy downtown and urban living because of the variety and spice it adds to their lives. Not everyone wants plain vanilla. Just accept it!

  • Tarheel True Aug 6, 2008

    The height of ignorance can be measured by audacity. What kind of ignorant fool moves into an environment, and thinks the enviroment is supposed to acquiesce to their needs.

    Typically, I see this mind set in the frozen minded fools from the Mason side of the line. You move to a place because you perceive it to be better than where you came from, and when you get there you want to change it into the hovel you just left!

    Human nature is the best comedic stage:)

  • wakebrdnrc Aug 6, 2008

    There is a Harris Teeter at Cameron Village, I do believe.

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