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Lawmakers: Safety training 'imperative' for concealed carry permits

Posted April 24, 2015

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— A loophole in the law that allows people to carry a concealed weapon in North Carolina without taking a gun safety course has drawn the attention of state lawmakers, who say they'll look for a fix.

Two staunch gun-rights advocates, Republican Sens. Stan Bingham of Davidson County and Jeff Tarte of Mecklenburg County, questioned Virginia's practice of granting concealed carry permits to applicants who pass an online test.‚Äč

Virginia offers permits to non-residents, meaning North Carolinians can take the online test and apply online through the Virginia State Police. If they pass the background check, they'll receive a concealed carry permit that's valid in North Carolina.

"I think it's a serious mistake," Bingham said Friday, after being informed that states which share reciprocity with North Carolina have less stringent standards.

Tarte called hands-on safety training "imperative."

"It's something that we definitely need to look at on our side if they're not doing any shooting or preparation or demonstrating any competency whatsoever," Tarte said. "It's a little nerve-wracking."

Bingham said he will re-file legislation to block reciprocity of permits that require only online safety certification.

"That just, to me, is a tragedy waiting to happen," he said.

Both men agree that responsible, permitted gun owners should be able to carry their weapons just about anywhere. Tarte is one of the sponsors of a bill that would further expand those rights.

"The only place you would not be able to carry with this permit is a courtroom," Tarte said.

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  • Bob Owens Apr 26, 2015
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    There is no "safety training" whatsoever involved in the NC CCH class. You cover eight hours of laws, then fire a total of 50 rounds--one box of ammunition--at stationary targets at 3, 5, and 7 yards.

    No one fails. Ever.

    NC's CCH permit is a revenue generator only and does not save lives.

  • Roger Chance Apr 26, 2015
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    i know that we share reciprocity with every state south of PA, except W VA, who had not replied last time I renewed. You should meet the concealed carry requirements for the state of your legal residence. I thought that was the case.

  • Patrick Demby Apr 25, 2015
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    Statistics?! Facts?!

    That's not a language liberals understand. Stick with knee j3rk emotion and you'll fair much better.

  • Lee Rogers Apr 25, 2015
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    When Stan Bingham says this is a tragedy waiting to happen, what he means is this is a nonproblem presently. Perhaps WRAL could provide some statistical evidence where this is being done, or are they just speaking theoretically?? How many North Carolinians have done it, and what tragedies have they wrought upon us?? And were any of them able to obtain a permit they couldn't have gotten in NC? I just wonder...

  • Bruce Cup Choy Apr 25, 2015
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    Yes, it really doesn't. There is no permit or training requirement to open carry a handgun. Why does concealing a gun make any difference?

  • Bob Bucy Apr 25, 2015
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    NC has good reciprocity arrangements with other states, including VA. If NC stops honoring permits from other states then they are going to retaliate and not honor permits from NC. These "staunch gun-rights advocates" should realize this. Concealed carry courses are intended to teach awareness of the law - NOT to teach people how to shoot.

  • Alan Baker Apr 25, 2015
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    There are already hundreds if not thousands of North Carolinians driving without any training. They have skirted the permitting process completely and many of them are not even allowed to drive legally.

    They are called criminals. While all this may feel good, the only people training and a license test impact are legal drivers.

    And yet somehow, I rather like that we require drivers to show at least minimal proficiency before giving them legal rights to use an object that can be potentially fatal if mishandled.

  • Barrett Powell Apr 25, 2015
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    There are already hundreds if not thousands of North Carolinians carrying concealed without any training. They have skirted the permitting process completely and many of them are not even allowed to own a handgun legally.

    They are called criminals. While all this may feel good, the only people this will impact are those legal gun owners.

  • Patrick Demby Apr 25, 2015
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    Anyone up on 2A stuff in this state knows what this is a precursor to. Hint: SC.

    Good job WRALiberals for finding a few RINOs and hacks in the gun community to talk about this "loophole" which exists in a lot of other states, and has for quite some time, with no measurable negative or positive effect (in terms of safety).

    I'm glad these "staunch gun rights advocates" outed themselves, so we can out them at the polls.

  • Mike C Apr 25, 2015
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    I have my concealed carry permit and I feel that everyone should be required to take a safety course before being able to get a pidtol.

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