Not all workers complaining about earlier Black Friday shifts

Posted November 22, 2011
Updated November 23, 2011

— Each year, bargain hunters camp out and line up in the middle of the night to be one of the first inside store on Black Friday.

Stores keep making early shopping hours even earlier. This year, some stores plan to open on Thanksgiving night, which will cut into the holiday for both customers and employees.

"That's not fair. It's like they're pushing away Thanksgiving," Marta Khaun said Tuesday. 

Khaun and her husband, Jonathan, tried shopping once on Black Friday and vowed to stay away from the "madhouse" in the future. 

"To me, it's a little crazy," Jonathan Khaun said. 

Toys "R" Us is planning to open at 9 p.m. Thursday, with Walmart opening at 10 p.m.  Holiday Shopping Black Friday deals

The idea of working on Thanksgiving night prompted some part-time Target employees to start an online petition for the company to move its opening from midnight to 5 a.m. It has thousands and thousands of signatures.

"I think it's ridiculous," shopper Shannon Salmons, of Cary, said Tuesday. "Let the people have a break. Let them have a day to rest, enjoying their family. Shopping can wait." 

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Best Buy plans to open at midnight, but employees have to show up earlier than that to set up. Employee Kendra Cole said she will be there with a smile. 

"Of course, everyone wants to be with their family, but business wise, you gotta do what you gotta do," Cole said. "This is my job. I love it. So, I (have to) come in at 10:30 p.m. and make those customers happy." 

Fellow Best Buy employee Jenn Blake said she volunteered to work Thanksgiving night so she could spend more time with family on Friday. 

"Since everybody was off, I figured why not, just to get it it over with since I know I had to be here," Blake said. 

Many stores are promoting pre-Black Friday specials Monday through Wednesday. 

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  • storchheim Nov 23, 2011

    "Maybe you should learn that people THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN are on unemployment." - smcallah

    Darn (submit) button...

    Thank you for your post. I want to reiterate, since obviously many don't need to know and keep misstating, that there is no more 99 weeks of UE. It's 6 months maximum, at least in NC, and that began around the end of June. So after year-end, we'll see articles about how UE recips dropped dramatically!

    Yes, I'm quite sure everyone just flippantly decides to defy their boss these days.

  • storchheim Nov 23, 2011

    "Maybe you should learn that people THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN are on unemployment." - smcallah

  • storchheim Nov 23, 2011

    "You think the power plants are unmanned at any time? The network operations centers of large telcos? They all work on Christmas and at midnight on New Years too."

    Don't forget the computer geeks who keep the shopping and banking websites up 24/7 and carry beepers.

  • Here is a Thought Nov 23, 2011

    I have never, never will into the future shop on Black Friday. My thankfulness for family and my God are superior to the $2.48 garbage at Walmart, Target, anywhere else for that matter. I decry to greed and wanton vulgar attempts to get people into the stores.

    I wonder why very much out-loud why anyone would choose to leave home and put up with any of the elements associated with this. My family and my faith are far too important.

    Where will the senior management be on these days with their 100K salaries exploiting those that make $8.10 an hour supporting their greed?

  • raleighlynn Nov 23, 2011

    Back in the day, I used to work for Best Products (now defunct). I loved Black Friday in spite of the bustling, often pushy crowds. Of course I'd get yelled at by customers if we were out of a limited item with no raincheck availability (as if I had a whole garage full of this or that and was hiding it from them!) But it was fun, and the time went by fast. Be kind to retail clerks, they are doing their best. Now as an R.N., I try help my patients smile although they are hospitalized. I love my patients, would rather work retail over holidays!

  • bmlenihan Nov 23, 2011

    If you want to stop corporations from opening on Thanksgiving - tell your friends, people, etc - do not shop on Thanksgiving or these early hours. The reason the stores are open is there is a demand.

    I have to work on Thansgiving and I am not an hourly employee and do not get to make the time up. It is expected and I knew when I took my position. If you take a job in retail, you are expected to be available when the store is open, unless you have worked out an agreement with the bossman. I agree companies should be considerate to the employees and many managers I know take volunteers first and then fill in the gaps.

  • pirate09 Nov 23, 2011

    WOW, I cannot believe the way these comments are going. Do you people have any decency left for this country and what made us what we are today. Thanksgiving is a day to give thanks for everything we cherish in our lives and these people instead of getting to spend that ONE day out of the year that they probably get off (besides Christmas) will have to be at a retail store with shoppers who could care less about giving thanks to ANYONE, but their wallet!
    I understand they should be happy they have a job with the economy the way it is but it doesnt mean we should treat them like slaves! I also understand there are others in professions such as nursing, drs, army ect that have to work but they CHOSE that profession as a career as opposed to these people HAD to take these jobs to feed their families. It is so sad what this country has come to in regards to time off. In Europe they get MONTHS off every year and guess what..productivity is higher because workers are well rested and happy.

  • smcallah Nov 23, 2011

    "you REALLY think 10% of American wonkers were fired for no reason at all and are therefore eligible for benefits? REALLY??!?!"

    Yes, I do believe that a majority of those people were fired for no reason except that their employers wanted to lay them off to save money.

    Some of them surely slip through the cracks. But most employers fight the payment if it was not earned. As an employer myself, I have fought unemployment benefits for fired workers and won.

    But you honestly believe that after all the news of layoffs and hiring freezes for the last 3 years that the majority of those people on unemployment got fired for being bad workers and their employers happened to not fight it? Are you kidding?

  • smcallah Nov 23, 2011

    "EVERYBODY has had a sucky minimum wage job, even those Corporate CEOs you despise. Many of them started out sweeping floors and cleaning toilets while going to school. If you hate your job, Monster, Dice, Craigslist, TriangleHelpWanted, and Thingamajob are all a click away."

    Why did you take a quote from me out of context and reply to it as if I was saying something I wasn't? I wasn't arguing about sucky minimum wage jobs, I was explaining that you don't get unemployment if you don't show up for work or get fired for doing a bad job.

    Way to make me look like I was talking about something else!

  • arfamr1007 Nov 23, 2011

    EVERYBODY has had a sucky minimum wage job, even those Corporate CEOs you despise. Many of them started out sweeping floors and cleaning toilets while going to school. If you hate your job, Monster, Dice, Craigslist, TriangleHelpWanted, and Thingamajob are all a click away.

    Maybe next year, a retail employee will have a job he or she enjoys and can take Thanksgiving 2012 off.

    Not EVERYONE....don't forget that President Obama has NEVER been on a private payrole...EVER.