4/19: Race between Dems in 2nd Congressional District heats up

With the May primary approaching quickly, Clay Aiken and Toni Morris, two of the three Democratic candidates in North Carolina's 2nd Congressional District, go "On the Record." Candidate Keith Criscoe declined WRAL's invitation to take part in the show.
Posted 4/19/2014, 11:18:00 PM Updated 9/23/2025, 7:50:00 PM

>>> DEMOCRATS WILLIAM SOON

SELECT A NOMINEE FOR THE SECOND

CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND

TONIGHT WE ARE ON THE RECORD

WITH TWO WHO WANT TO WORKING

WASHINGTON, D.C.

>> IT IS TIME TO GO ON THE

RECORD WITH WRAL NEWS.

>> GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR

JOINING US, THERE ARE THREE

DEMOCRATS ON THE BALLOT FOR THE

MAY 6TH PRIMARY, TONIGHT BE

MIGHT TWO, A THIRD DECLINED OUR

INVITATION.

THE DISTRICT REDRAWN TWO YEARS

AGO STRETCHS FROM WAKE ALL THE

WAY TO AND THROUGH A PORTION OF

CUMBERLAND COUNTY, THE FIRST

CANDIDATE WE MEET TONIGHT IS A

FAMILIAR FACE TO MANY OF YOU, A

YOUNGER GENERATION CANDIDATE

WHO USED A YOUNGER GENERATION

TECHNIQUE TO ANNOUNCE HIS

CANDIDACY.

>> FOR MORE FAMILIES THEY ARE

STRUGGLING, AT LEAST TODAY --

>> -- WE ARE JOINED BY CLAY

AIKEN AND HERE IS WRAL'S MARK

BEAKER, LAURA LESLIE IS OFF

THIS EVENING.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> BEFORE YOU EVER DID THAT YOU

WERE A SPECIAL EDUCATION

TEACHER FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION

NEEDS.

>> RIGHT.

>> NOW I KNOW YOU TOLD A

REPORTER THAT CONGRESS COULD

USE A SPECIAL ED TEACHER, AND I

KNOW THAT IS A GREAT THING BUT

HOW DO YOU MAKE THE LEAP AS A

TEACHER THERE AND NOW IN SHOW

BUSINESS, WITH THAT.

>> WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE

REASONS IS I WORKED AFTER

SCHOOL WITH THEM BUT AFTER IDOL

I TALKED ABOUT HOW THE KIDS I

WORKED WITH COULD NOT GO TO

SUMMER SCHOOL OR AFTER SCHOOL

PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THAT SO WE

STARTED A PROGRAM TO DO THIS

AND SO FOR ME THAT WAS A PLAT

FORM I HAD AS A RESULT OF IDOL

TO SORT OF BE A VOICE FOR

THEM.

AND TO ME POLITICIANS ARE SORT

OF SUPPOSED TO BE A

REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE

THEY SERVE AND THAT IS WHAT I

HAVE SORT OF TIED TO DO, I HAVE

WORKED AS BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR

THEM AND SO THAT IS WHY.

>> YOU KNOW WHEN WE FIRST HEARD

YOUR NAME FOR CANDIDATE WE WERE

LIKE COME ON BE SERIOUS AND YOU

ARE AWARE OF THIS.

>> YEAH, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO

RECOGNIZE ME BECAUSE OF THE

SHOW, I WANT THEM TO LISTEN TO

ME AND TO SPEAK UP ON THEIR

BEHALF AND MAKE A DECISION

BASED ON THAT.

HAVING A NAME THAT IS

RECOGNIZABLE GETS US IN THE

DOOR A LITTLE BIT AND GETS

PEOPLE TO LISTEN SOME BUT I

RECOGNIZE I HAVE THAT

CHALLENGE, WE CALL IT A

MOUNTAIN I HAVE TO CLIMB IN

ORDER TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE ME A

DIFFERENT WAY AND WE HAVE AN

OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND ONCE

I FIND THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE

LISTEN TO ME ABOUT THE ISSUES

THAT FRUSTRATE ME AND FRUSTRATE

THEM, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMON

GROUND, AND THEY SEE THAT --

YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED A JOB, I

DON'T NEED A JOB, AND I SEE A

NEED THERE AND I WANT TO FILL

IT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE

PROGRAM WITH NATIONAL

DISABILITIES, HOW DOES THAT

WORK OUT?

>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE

FOR THAT CAUSE AND LOOKING FOR

SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO SOME OF

ATTENTION THAT THEY.

>> AND THEY SAID YOU DID NOT GO

TO THOSE MEETINGS, WHAT WAS IT

YOU MISSED, SIX OR SEVEN EARLY

ON?

>> YEAH, RECOGNIZED MY ROLL AND

CERTAINLY RECALL IN MY

COMMISSION, ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT I WAS ABLE TO BRING,

ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS TOURING

NON-STOP, ONE OF THE THINGS I

WAS ABLE TO BRING WAS ATTENTION

TO THEM, OF COURSE THERE WERE

DOCTORS AND PROFESSORS AND I

WAS ABLE TO BRING ATTENTION TO

THAT AND THAT WAS MY STRENGTH

THERE AND I THINK I WILL BE

ABLE TO BRING ATTENTION TO

THAT AS WELL.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND

NOW.

>> I AM GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, IT

IS MUCH DIFFERENT THEN THAN

NOW, I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON

THIS, I SOLD MY HOUSE AND

FOCUSED ON THIS AS MY PRIMARY

FOCUS AND THAT IS MY FOCUS, AND

WHAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THEN WAS

THIS IS MY FOCUS AND I AM

FOCUSED AND I AM HERE TO DO

THAT AND MADE A CLEAR

DISTINCTION IN MY LIFE BETWEEN

THEN AND NOW.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HELP

YOU CAN GIVE THEM, THE

AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT, THE

PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT IT THIS

WEEK SAYING THERE ARE 7 MILLION

PEOPLE ENROLLED AND HOPEFULLY

THIS WILL WORK BUT THERE ARE

REPUBLICANS WHO STILL WANT IT

REPEALED.

HOW WOULD YOU STAND UP ON THAT

IF YOU ARE ELECTED TO THE

HOUSE.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS

-- NOT JUST THOSE ISSUES, IS

THAT PEOPLE ARE TOO BUSY

STANDING IN THE CORNER, FOLDING

THEIR ARMS, ONE OF THE GREAT

THINGS ABOUT THE HEALTHCAREACT

IS THAT THEY HAVE DONE SOME

THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW

ABOUT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

DEMOCRATS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS

THAT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS

WITH IT AND SOME PEOPLE ARE

HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT AND IT

IS IN THE SIDE WINNING OR

LOSING, IT IS PEOPLE BEING

COVERED.

AND IT IS NOT THINGS LIKE THAT,

IT IS ABOUT THINGS LIKE

HOSPITALS CHARGING YOU FOR

THINGS AND NOT TELLING YOU WHAT

THEY ARE AND THINGS LIKE THE

DOCTORS DOING THAT.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF

WONDERFUL THINGS THIS LAW

PROVIDES FOR US AND THERE ARE

SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE

FIXED AND INSTEAD OF STANDING

IN THE CORNER WITH OUR ARMS

CROSSED WE NEED TO GET THOSE

THINGS FIXED.

WE NEED TO FIX THOSE THING.

>> ALL RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE WE

GO TO BREAK, SOMETIMES PEOPLE

STAND IN THE CORNER WITH THEIR

ARMS FOLDED BECAUSE THEY SAY WE

NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND DO

THIS LIKE THAT.

>> WELL, THERE ARE RULES, AND

AGAIN LIKE I SAID, I DON'T NEED

A JOB, I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE

I WANT TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE,

I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO

TO CONGRESS AND TELL THE

LEADERS THERE THAT I DON'T WANT

TO DO THAT.

THAT IS WHAT GOT US INTO THIS

MESS AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT, AS WE GO TO

BREAK, A REMINDER, WE ARE

RECORD TONIGHT TALKING WITH

THOSE WHO WANT TO SERVE IN THE

SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT

IN FORT CAROLINA, WHO ARE

DEMOCRATS.

THERE ARE THREE IN THIS RACE,

KEITH CHRISCO WAS INVITED TO

JOIN US TONIGHT, HE DECLINED

THE INVITATION, WE WILL BY

TALKING WITH TONY MORRIS IN A

FEW MINUTE, RIGHT NOW WE ARE

TALKING WITH CLAY AIKEN,

DEMOCRAT FROM THIS AREA, WE

TALKED ABOUT HEALTHCARE, WHY

YOU WANT TO RUN, MARK BEAKER, I

KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT

THAT.

>> WE DO, YOU TALK ABOUT

IMMEDIATELY PROGRESS THAT NEEDS

TO BE MADE ON OUR RAILWAYS AND

ROADS, ETCETERA, THE PUSH IS

THAT HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT BIG

INFRASTRUCTURE PUSH.

HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT BIG

INFRASTRUCTURE PUSH?

>> WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO SET

UP A FUND TO FUND THOSE

PROJECTS.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT

WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE

GROWTH IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE

HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SPEND

MONEY SMARTER.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT,

FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOVERNMENT

SPENDS UPWARD OF 22 BILLION

DOLLARS A YEAR ON VACANT OR

UNUSED BUILDINGS, THAT IS THE

TOP OF IRRESPONSIBLE SPENDING

THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP

AND THAT MONEY COULD BE USED IN

OTHER AREAS TO PROMOTE GROWTH

AND I AM NOT JUST TALKING ROADS

AND BRIDGES, THE ELECTRICAL

GRID AND SMART BAND ACCESS,

THOSE THINGS, SMART BAND ACCESS

AND ELECTRICAL GRID

IMPROVEMENTS DON'T JUST CREATE

JOBS THEN, BUT BROAD AND ACCESS

CREATES JOBS RIGHT THERE,

ALLOWS GROWTH RIGHT THERE.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE

PEOPLE WHO POINT TO THAT AND

SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE GOT PRIVATE

SECTOR COMPANIES DOING THOSE

THINGS, WHY SHOULD THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT MEDEL IN THOSE

PARTICULAR AREAS.

>> WELL, LISTEN, WE HAVE A LOT

OF RURAL AREAS WHERE THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT

TAKING CARE OF THOSE FOLKS, AND

WE HAVE A LOT OF RURAL YARDS

WHERE THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE

OF BUSINESS AND THEY NEED THE

SAME TECHNOLOGY AND ACCESS TO

THESE SERVICES AND THE

GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO

THAT, ANDYOU KNOW A GOOD ROAD

GETS YOU SERVICES TO COME IN

THERE AND TO AND FROM THE AREA

AND WE CAN'T IGNORE THE RURAL

AREAS JUST BECAUSE THE HEAVILY

POPULATED AREAS ARE WHERE THEY

ARE DOING THAT.

>> THAT CONTINUES TO BE A HOT

TOPIC, WHERE THE INCUMBENT HAS

SORT OF BROKEN RANKS WITHIN HER

PARTY AND IRRITATED SOME WITHIN

HER DISTRICT.

IS YOUR VISION FOR IMMIGRATION

REFORM DIFFERENT FROM HERS?

>> I HAVE NOT HEARD ENOUGH OF

HER STANCE ON THAT TO KNOW HOW

MUCH DIFFERENT MY PROPOSAL IS

FROM HERS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT

ANYONE WHO STAYS HERE IS

ILLEGAL AND IT WOULD COST 22

BILLION DOLLARS IF WE EXPORTED

THEM OUT AND THEY HELP THE

ECONOMY THROUGH THEIR WORK.

I DO NOT BELIEVE LIKE THEY DO

THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD MAKE

SURE THAT THEY ARE HERE

LEGALLY.

THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE

ILLEGALLY, IF WE DON'T MAKE OUR

BORDERS SECURE AND MAKE SURE

THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SECURE OUR

BORDERS THEN THAT WON'T MAKE A

DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE WILL BE

IN THE SAME SHAPE IN A FEW

YEARS, AND SO I THINK WE NEED

TO HAVE REFORM THERE.

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO

KNOW ABOUT CLAY AIKEN.

>> I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT I

AM A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR

PEOPLE.

AND I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT

I DO THAT AND I SEE A NEED

THERE AND I DON'T NEED A JOB

AND I TRULY TRULY WANT PEOPLE

TO VOTE FOR ME TO DO THE JOB

FOR THEM IN CONGRESS.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

WHEN WE COME BACK TONY MORRIS

MENTIONED JUST BEFORE THE

BREAK, DEMOCRAT TONI MORRIS

DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A

CANDIDATE OUTSIDE THE POLITICAL

ARENA, AND SHE IS HERE IN PART

TO TELL US WHY SHE WANTS TO BE

A PART OF IT.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO BE

OUTSIDE OF IT.

>> WELL, BECAUSE I WORK AS A

THERAPY EVERY DAY, AND I HAVE

PEOPLE COME IN MY OFFICE EVERY

DAY ONE-ON-ONE MAYBE I HEAR

STUFF THEY DON'T TELL OTHER

CHILDREN, DON'T HAVE A JOB,

CAN'T AFFORD MY BILLS, CAN'T

AFFORD MY COPAYS AND AFFORD

THAT AND I AM LIKE OKAY,

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND

ALSO EVERY TIME I CALL UP

PEOPLE FOR RESOURCES THEY ARE

LIKE I AM SORRY, I CAN'T HELP

YOU, I AM SORRY, I CAN'T HELP

YOU, SO EVERY TIME I CALL THEM

THEY SAY THEY WILL HELP BUT

THEY DON'T SO I WANT TO HELP

PEOPLE IN CONGRESS.

>> HOW WILL YOUR MAJOR HELP.

>> HOW WILL MY MAJOR HELP?

>> WELL MY MAJOR IS PSYCHOLOGY

AND IT HELPS ME LOOK AT

STUDENTS AND A LOT OF IT IS

EDUCATION REFORM AND IT ALLOWS

ME TO LOOK AT STUDENTS AND

EDUCATION REFORM AND FROM THAT

PERSPECTIVE, AND IN ADDITION TO

THAT I HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE

DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD, I LOOK AT

HOW WITH CAN BETTER ADDRESS

THOSE ISSUES ON OUR SCHOOLS

BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I DEAL

WITH.

>> THE LAST TIME WITH TALKED

BOUGHT THAT, LET'S ASK YOU THE

SAME THING WE ASKED THEM.

IF YOU ARE IN CONGRESS WOULD

YOU SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT AND

ARE YOU DIFFERENT FROM HER

POSITION NOW.

>> I WOULD SUPPORT THE DREAM

ACT AND WHEN I LOOK AT

IMMIGRATION I LOOK AT THE

POLICIES WE HAVE NOW, WE HAVE

WORK VISAS ON THE POLICY AND

ALSO PEOPLE CAN GET

CITIZENSHIP.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE DO

NOT ADHERE TO WHAT WE HAVE IN

PLACE, SO IF WE HAVE EMPLOYERS

WHO ASSURE WORKERS ARE GETTING

WORK VISAS, THAT WILL HELP WITH

DOCUMENTATION, SO WE NEED TO

TWEAK WHAT WE ARE DOING AND

MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HEAR

ABOUT IT AND ALSO WE NEED TO

MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T TAKE

FOREVER TO GET THE PAPERWORK

DONE, BECAUSE THAT IS

PROBLEMATIC, IF I AM COMING TO

THE UNITED STATES AND ALL I

WANT TO DO IS WORK AND GET A

WORK VISA AND IF YOU ARE

WAITING FOR MONTHS AND SOMEBODY

SAYS I WILL PAY YOU NOW FOR THE

WORK, THEY WILL PROBABLY DO IT,

SO WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER

POLICIES.

>> AS YOU PROBLEMY KNOW HE IS

WORKING ON HIS REPUTATION AS A

SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TALKING

ABOUT JOBS, WHAT COULD CONGRESS

DO RIGHT NOW THAT YOU COULD

PROPOSE OR VOTE FOR, THAT WOULD

BRING THEM JOBS RIGHT NOW.

>> FIRST OF ALL WE NEED TO WORK

ON A JOBS BILL, WE HAVE NOT HAD

1 FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.

>> WHAT WOULD A JOBS BILL LOOK

LIKE?

>> WHAT WOULD A JOBS BILL LOOK

LIKE?

A JOBS BILL WOULD HAVE JOBS FOR

THOSE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE NEED

THAT IN OUR DISTRICT.

IF WE DO THAT GUESS WHAT, THE

ECONOMY WOULD MOVE BETTER AND

THAT WOULD MOVE BETTER FROM

THAT PERSPECTIVE.

>> BUT YOUR FRIENDS ON THE

OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE SAYS

THAT THEY CANNOT CREATE JOBS.

>> WELL, THEY SAY THEY CANNOT

CREATE JOBS BUT WE CAN CREATE A

SITUATION WHERE THEY WILL BRING

IN JOBS, LET'S CREATE A

SITUATION WHERE THEY WILL BRING

JOBS TO US.

>> AS FAR AS YOUR RUN TWO YEARS

AGO.

>> UH-HUH.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN YOUR CANDIDACY NOW AND

TWO YEARS AGO.

>> I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS I

AM A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE NOW

THAN I WAS THEN AND THAT IS

WHAT YOU LEARNED ON THE

CAMPAIGN TRAIL TWO YEARS AGO.

I BE MYSELF AND I LET PEOPLE

JUST SEE ME BY MYSELF AND I

LEARN THAT, AND I SAY YOU KNOW

WHAT?

I JUST NEED TO BE MYSELF AND

LET PEOPLE SEE ME BE MYSELF.

>> AND CLAY AIKEN SAID HE NEEDS

TO DO THAT AND THEY NEED TO

FOCUS ON HEALTH CARE.

>> UH-HUH.

>> DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

I WORKED WITH HEALTH CARE SO I

KNOW ABOUT IT.

I WORKED WITH THE HEALTHCARE

ACT AND I KNOW ABOUT THE

HEALTHCARE ACT, SO LET'S

IMPLEMENT IT AND SEE HOW IT

WORKS, SO I KNOW ABOUT IT AND

LET'S SEE HOW IT WORKS AND THE

THINGS THAT ARE WORKING LET'S

KEEP AND THE THINGS THAT DON'T

WORK LET'S FIX.

THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA NEED

HEALTHCARE.

>> IS THERE A SPECIFIC ITEM IN

THE AD.A.

THAT YOU WOULD FIX OR REPEAL

NOW.

>> WELL, RIGHT NOW I AM NOT

SURE BUT LIKE I SAID WE WILL

SEE WHAT WORKS AND DOES NOT

WORK AND KEEP THOSE THINGS THAT

WORK AND FIX THOSE THINGS THAT

DO NOT WORK.

>> WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME LEFT,

DO YOU KNOW HER?

>> I --

>> -- WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO

HER.

>> I WOULD SAY TO HER I WANT TO

REPLACE YOU BECAUSE YOU VOTED

AGAINST FT.

BRAGG.

AND THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO

HER, THESE PEOPLE ARE UP EVERY

DAY WORKING HARD AND YOU VOTE

AGAINST THEM TO IMPACT THEM

LIKE THAT IN YOUR STATE.

I DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD WANT

TO DO THAT, A REPRESENTATIVE

SHOULD EVER DO THAT, SO I WOULD

TELL HER THAT I DO NOT

PRIMARY IS RIGHT AROUND THE

CORNER AND THAT MEANS EARLY

VOTING IS ABOUT TO BEGIN, MARK.

>> YEAH, THURSDAY THE 24TH OF

APRIL YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FOR

IF YOU ARE REGISTERED DOWN SO A

SORT OF REGIONAL POLLING PLACE

AND CAST YOUR BALLOT EARLY FOR

THE ELECTIONS, ONE CHANGE YOU

CAN'T REGISTER ON THE SAME DAY

SO IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED

YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF LUCK

AT THIS POINT SOME NOT MUCH

TIME AT THIS POINT BUT WE

ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE

ADVANTAGE OF IT AND VOTE, WE

WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTACT US ON

TWITTER OR E-MAIL US YOUR

COMMENTS AND REMEMBER YOU CAN

GO THERE TO WATCH OUR

DISCUSSION WITH FRANK ROACH AND

YOU CAN WATCH THIS DISCUSSION