Name: UNC-CH professor: Sentence in George Floyd's death holds police accountable
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Description: UNC-Chapel Hill law professor John Rubin says former police officer Derek Chauvin's conviction and sentence in George Floyd's death shows the justice system and communities take the excessive use of force by officer's seriously.

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UNC-Chapel Hill law professor John Rubin says former police officer Derek Chauvin's conviction and sentence in George Floyd's death shows the justice system and communities take the excessive use of force by officer's seriously.

<p>KAT CAMPBELL HAS YOUR &gt;&gt;&gt; DEREK CHAUVIN HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO 22 1/2 YEARS FOR THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. HE WAS FOUND GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. WE ARE JOINED LIVE BY A PROFESSOR OF PUBLIC LAW IN GOVERNMENT, PROFESSOR RUBIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. IT'S GET RIGHT INTO IT. THE SENTENCING, IS IT A SURPRISE? ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THE SENTENCING AGAINST DEREK CHAUVIN? &gt;&gt; I'M NOT SURPRISED. I EXPECTED THERE TO BE AN UPWARD DEPARTURE. I THINK I WAS CONCERNED LIKE SOME PEOPLE IN SOME COMMUNITIES THAT THERE WOULD BE A SLAP ON THE WRIST, BUT THIS IS CLEARLY A TOUGH SENTENCE. &gt;&gt; ONE ATTORNEY CALLED IT HISTORIC. FAMILY MEMBERS INCLUDING GEORGE FLOYD'S 7-YEAR-OLD READ STATEMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE PROSECUTION AND THE DEFENSE EARLIER. WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THESE STATEMENTS BEFORE SENTENCE IS HANDED DOWN? &gt;&gt; IN THIS CASE, I'M NOT SURE THE STATEMENTS AT THE HEARING MADE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAD ALREADY PREPARED HIS WRITTEN ORDER. THIS INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE TO THE JUDGE DURING THE PRESENTENCE PHASE. SO IT MAY HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON THE JUDGE. THE WRITTEN ORDER IS NOW ONLINE. THE TWO THINGS THE JUDGE EMPHASIZED MOST IN GOING 10 YEARS ABOVE THE PRESUMPTIVE IS THE ABUSE OF TRUST BY SJOGREN'S ACTIONS, AND BY THE CRUELTY OF HIS BEHAVIOR. &gt;&gt; I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE EARLIER, BEN CRUMP CALLED THE SENTENCING HISTORIC, SAYING IT IS ONE STEP CLOSER TO HEALING BY ACCOUNTABILITY. WHAT IMPACT COULD THIS HAVE ON FUTURE TRIALS LIKE THIS ONE, IF ANY? &gt;&gt; IT IS CERTAINLY A TOUGH SENTENCE. AND THE INITIAL VERDICT WAS AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT OF ACCOUNTABILITY. IT DOES SEND A MESSAGE THAT THE COMMUNITY, JURIES, JUDGES TAKE THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY AND IMPOSE SERIOUS PUNISHMENTS FOR THESE KINDS OF CRIMES. SO IT IS IMPORTANT. IT IS ONE CASE ONLY. THERE MAY BE MORE CASES AHEAD OF US, HOPEFULLY NOT.</p>

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UNC-CH professor: Sentence in George Floyd's death holds police accountable

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<p>ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, IF IT'S IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, WILL GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW THIS PARTICULAR JUROR VOTES. THE MERE FACT THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP, OR LIKE DONALD TRUMP, WILL NOT DISQUALIFY PEOPLE FROM THE JURY. THE TEST IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN, GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW OR THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DEFENDANT, CAN YOU SET THOSE IDEAS ASIDE AND JUDGE THIS CASE FAIRLY ON THE FACTS AND THE EVIDENCE. THE CHALLENGE HERE IS JUST REALISM. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT IS SO DIVISIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE'RE IN A COUNTY THAT VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN, HOW DO YOU SUSS THROUGH THAT. I ACTUALLY THINK NORMALLY PEOPLE TRY TO GET OFF JURY DUTY. I THINK SOMETHING THEY NEED TO GUARD FOR HERE IS THE STEALTH JUROR, SOMEONE WHO WILL APPEAR PLAIN, NEUTRAL, BUT WANTS TO GET ON THE JURY, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN AGENDA OR SIMPLY THEY KNOW THIS IS A PART OF HISTORY AND THEY WANT TO BE PART OF HISTORY. &gt;&gt; AND THAT CAN CUT BOTH WAYS, STEALTH JUROR. IT ONLY TAKES ONE JUROR TO SIDE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND YOU HAVE A HUNG JURY. YOU NEED A UNANIMOUS JURY TO GET A CONVICTION IN THIS CASE. &gt;&gt; EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S OFTEN SAID IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO HANG A JURY, BUT REALITY IS, IF JURORS DELIBERATE, AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO IN THE ROOM, THEY USUALLY GET HARANGUED INTO CHANGING THEIR VOTE. JUST ONE JUROR CAN HANG THE ENTIRE CASE. AND BY THE WAY, SOME F THE TRADITIONAL THOUGHTS ABOUT JURY SELECTION ARE FLIPPED ON THEIR HEAD. A DEFENSE ATTORNEY LIKE ME, IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND HAS A CONNECTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OR AN AFFINITY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU WANT THEM OFF THAT JURY. MAYBE IN A CASE LIKE THIS, THAT'S EXACTLY WHO DONALD TRUMP WANTS ON THE JURY, GIVEN VOTING PATTERNS AND OTHER THINGS BEHIND OUR AREA, THIS IS A UNIQUE JURY SELECTION, AND LAWYERS ARE INVOLVED IN JURY SELECTION IN NEW YORK, WHICH IS UNUSUAL. IN FEDERAL COURT, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T SAY A WORD UNTIL I'M SPOKEN TO BY THE JUDGE. THEY HAVE ONE ON ONE ACCESS TO QUESTION THE JURORS. &gt;&gt; WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH SIDES TO SEE THE FACTS AND SEE THE JURY POOL. &gt;&gt; LET ME TURN BACK TO LAURA JARRETT. WE ARE AWAITING THE FORMER PRESIDENT TO WALK INTO THE COURTROOM. JUST THE SPECTER, HE'S REQUIRED TO BE THERE EVERY DAY. HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE WANTS TO TESTIFY. IF HE DOES, HIS LAWYERS CAN'T STOP HIM FROM DOING SO. HOW DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO PLAY OUT DAY BY DAY? &gt;&gt; Reporter: THE TRICK OF IT IS, SAVANNAH, HE'S BEEN IN THIS COURTROOM BEFORE. HE'S BEEN HERE OBVIOUSLY FOR HIS ARRAIGNMENT AND PRETRIAL HEARINGS. THIS IS DIFFERENT. HIS APPEARANCE IS NOT VOLUNTARY, HE'S REQUIRED TO BE HERE UNLESS HE GETS SPECIAL DISPENSATION FROM THE JUDGE, AND THE JUDGE HAS MADE IT CLEAR, HE EXPECTS HIM TO BE HERE EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHICH IN THE MIDDLE OF A REELECTION CAMPAIGN IS ALSO JUST EXTRAORDINARY AND UNPRECEDENTED IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. IT WILLBE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO'S DRIVING THIS. YOU TALK ABOUT HIM SAYING HE WANTS TO TESTIFY. THAT OBVIOUSLY POSES EXTREME RISK FOR HIM ACROSS EXAMINATION. OBVIOUSLY HE WOULD BE IN THE WITNESS CHAIR THERE UNDER OATH AND WOULD HAVE TO TESTIFY TRUTHFULLY IN FRONT OF THIS JURY AS THEY ASSESS HIS CREDIBILITY, AND WE HAVE SEEN HIM TESTIFY BEFORE, JUST RECENTLY IN HIS CIVIL FRAUD TRIAL, HE INSISTED UPON TESTIFYING IN THAT CASE. AND WE KNOW HOW THAT ONE TURNED OUT. IT MAY BE THE CASE HE DOESN'T TESTIFY, IN WHICH CASE THE PROSECUTION CAN'T COMMENT IN FRONT OF THE JURY. HE HAS A RIGHT NOT TO TESTIFY LIKE ANY OTHER DEFENDANT. THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL, WE SEE THE POWER STRUGGLE BETWEEN WHAT DONALD TRUMP THE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO DO AND WHAT HIS LAWYERS THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR HIM. &gt;&gt; WE ALSO HAVE "MEET THE PRESS" MODERATOR, KRISTEN WELK WITH US. THERE'S PROBABLY NO QUESTION HE'LL TESTIFY ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS, THOUGH THERE IS A PARTIAL GAG ORDER IN THE CASE. WHAT IS THE TRUMP STRATEGY AS THIS CASE UNFOLDS? HE'S OFF THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND IN A COURTROOM. HOW DOES HE INTEND TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS? &gt;&gt; IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE HAVE SEEN IT PLAY OUT THROUGHOUT HIS PREVIOUS COURT CASES IN WHICH HE HAS MADE USE OF THE CAMERAS OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. TOLD BY VISER CLOSE TO DONALD TRUMP, HE AND HIS TEAM WILL MAKE USE OF EVERY AVENUE TO THE MEDIA POSSIBLE. NO SURPRISE THERE. HE'S A FORMER REALITY TV STAR, AFTER ALL. HE KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS. SAVANNAH, HE HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR HE PLANS TO BE OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS MUCH AS HE CAN AFTER COURT. COURT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN SESSION ON WEDNESDAY. EXPECT HIM TO BE OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS WELL. HE'S CLOSE TO NEARBY PENNSYLVANIA. BIG BATTLEGROUND STATES. EXPECT TO SEE PRESIDENT BIDEN IN PENNSYLVANIA, BY THE WAY, THIS WEEK. HE HAS THREE SEPARATE STOPS IN PENNSYLVANIA. OING TO TRY TO COUNTER PROGRAM THIS. DON'T EXPECT HIM TO TALK ABOUT THE COURT CASE. HE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY, ABORTION, OTHER ISSUES THAT HE THINKS WILL RESONATE. WE JUST GOT NEW POLLING NATIONALLY SHOWING THAT THIS RACE IS AS TIGHT AS A TICK. ALL OF THIS COULD POTENTIALLY RESONATE WITH MODERATES, INDEPENDENTS IN THE CRITICAL BATTLEGROUND STATES. SAVANNAH. &gt;&gt; WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THOSE DOORS. WE EXPECT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TO WALK IN AS HIS CRIMINAL TRIAL, AN UNPRECEDENTED MOMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY, A CRIMINAL TRIAL FOR A FORMER PRESIDENT BEGINS ANY MINUTE NOW WITH JURY SELECTION. I WANT TO TURN TO DANNY CEVALLOS, ONE OF THE LAWYERS ON OUR PANEL THIS MORNING. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CASE. THERE ARE FOUR CASES, CRIMINAL CASES PENDING AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THIS IS THE NEW YORK CASE. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ANALYSIS OF THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF THE VARIOUS CASES. THIS IS THE WEAKEST LEGALLY. WHY IS THAT? &gt;&gt; IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST DEFENSIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE, THE ORIGINAL THEORY OF THE CASE IS THAT TRUMP FALSIFIED BUSINESS RECORDS AND ADDITIONALLY BECAUSE HE WAS DOING THAT TO CONCEAL ANOTHER CRIME, IT'S ELEVATED TO A FELONY IN NEW YORK. THE OTHER CRIME IT IS A FEDERAL CAMPAIGN VIOLATION, WHICH REALLY IS AN UNUSUAL PLACE. IT'S A NOVEL THEORY. NST NEVER REALLY BEEN TESTED IN NEW YORK COURTS. FALSIFICATION OF BUSINESS RECORDS HAS BEEN TESTED. A CRIME THAT IS PROSECUTED. THE PROSECUTION MUST PROVE NOT ONLY THAT THE BUSINESS RECORDS WERE FALSIFIED BUT ADDITIONALLY THAT IT WAS IN CONCEALMENT OF A CRIME. THE DEFENSE THERE COULD SIMPLY BE IT WASN'T FOR CAMPAIGN PURPOSES. IT WAS TO REDUCE THE EMBARRASSMENT THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH MELANIA. OR YOU MIGHT SEE A DEFENSE OF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THOSE ARE OTHER PEOPLE, MICHAEL COHEN ACTED ON HIS OWN. THAT'S WHY I SUSPECT YOU SEE WITNESSES, HOPE HICKS, PEOPLE AROUND HIM AND MAYBE HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT THINGS. MICHAEL COHEN HAS CREDIBILITY ISSUES. BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THAT'S A CLASSIC THING THAT ALL COOPERATING WITNESSES HAVE. IF HE'S INTRODUCING DOCUMENTS, THE PROSECUTION WILL SAY THE DOCUMENTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. &gt;&gt; MICHAEL COHEN IS THE FORMER LAWYER, THE PERSON WHO EXECUTED THESE PAYMENTS AND LATER WAS REIMBURSED. HE HAS PLEADED GUILTY. AND WHEN YOUCOOPERATING WITNESS LIKE THAT, THEY HAVE CREDIBILITY PROBLEMS. THE PROSECUTORS WILL HAVE TO SHORE HIM UP WITH CORROBORATING EVIDENCE. &gt;&gt; THEY ARE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO USE SOME DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE. THERE'S ONE RECORDING WE KNOW ABOUT. NOT ABOUT STORMY DANIELS, THE PORN STAR INVOLVED IN THESE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS ON TAPE DISCUSSING HOW THE REIMBURSEMENT SCHEMES WILL WORK. PROSECUTORS WANT TO BRING IN ALL OF THAT TO FLESH OUT THE STORY. THEY WANT TO SHOW A PATTERN OF SUPPRESSING A BUNCH OF STORIES LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION, ALL IN SERVICE OF TRYING TO KEEP WHAT THEY SAY, PROSECUTORS SAY WAS DAMAGING INFORMATION FROM THE VOTERS. AS DANNY LAID OUT, THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO CONTINUALLY SAY THIS WASN'T ABOUT KEEPING INFORMATION FROM THE VOTERS BECAUSE THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN HOW I WAS DOCUMENTING ON MY BOOKS AND RECORDS. THIS WAS ABOUT A PERSONAL ISSUE, EMBARRASSMENT, KEEPING THE ISSUE FROM HIS WIFE, SAVANNAH. &gt;&gt; AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE PUBLIC WILL REACT, HOW THIS WILL PLAY POLITICALLY. OF ALL THE FACTS THAT ARE PENDING, THIS IS CERTAINLY THE STEAMIEST. THIS IS THE MIEST SETTLE OF FACTS. &gt;&gt; IT'S A SET OF FACTS THAT WAS KNOWN BEFORE THE PRESIDEWAS ELECTED IN 2016. IT WAS IN THE PUBLIC EYE PRIOR TO ELECTION DAY. &gt;&gt; A PORN STAR WHO HE ACKNOWLEDGES HAVING AN CONSENSUAL AFFAIR WITH. &gt;&gt; DENIES WRONG DOING. THE POLITICS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THE TIMING PIECE, SAVANNAH. YOU BROUGHT UP THE IDEA THAT THIS IS PERCEIVED TO BE POTENTIALLY THE WEAKNESS CASE FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. THOSE CLOSE TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT SEE A POLITICAL ADVANTAGE IN THIS CASE COMING UP FIRST AND NOT THE FEDERAL ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE AND NOT THE CASE INVOLVING THE MISHANDLING, ALLEGEDLY OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS HERE. THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT, IN THE PUBLIC EYE, THEY SEE THIS AS POTENTIALLY USEFUL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS KNOWN INFORMATION, IT IS HAPPENING IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS AND CAN SAY, LOOK, IT'S MANHATTAN, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DEMOCRATS LOOKING TO BE OUT TO GET ME. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NAMES COMING UP. YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN FOR FLASHING BACK TO 2016. THAT IS THE VIBE. HOPE HICKS, WHO WE HAVEN'T SEEN FOR OR HEARD FROM IN YEARS. &gt;&gt; STORMY DANIELS WILL TESTIFY, KAREN McDOUGAL, ANOTHER WOMAN CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN PAID OFF. SHE MAY BE A POTENTIAL WITNESS. &gt;&gt; THE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" FOLKS INVOLVED IN THE CATCH AND KILL SCHEME, YOU SEE THE LIST OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES. WE ARE EXPECTING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS TODAY, THESE WERE ALL NAMES WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, WHO ARE COMING BACK AND RELIVING, AS YOU PUT IT, SOME OF THE STEAMY DETAILS OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED HERE. &gt;&gt; DANNY, ONE OF THE ISSUES, AND WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF SECONDS LEFT, IS TIMING. THE FORMER PRESIDENT CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS WAS A PERSONAL MATTER, I USED PERSONAL FUNDS, THESE ARE MY BUSINESS RECORDS, NO ONE IS RELYING ON THEM. THEN WHY DID YOU DO IT IN THE WANING DAYS OF THE 2016 ELECTION. THIS STORY HAD BEEN OUT THERE FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAT. &gt;&gt; EXACTLY RIGHT. THE TIMING IS PROBABLY THE PROSECUTION'S BEST PIECE OF EVIDENCE. HAD IT HAPPENED A YEAR OR TWO MORE, THERE'S NO CASE. THE PROSECUTION NEEDS TO TIME IN THE TIMING, TO GO AGAINST THE DEFENSE SAYING THIS IS A PERSONAL PAYMENT. &gt;&gt; DANNY CEVALLOS, HALLIE, AND KRISTEN WELKER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR COVERAGE ON THE STREAMING NETWORK, NBC NEWS NOW, NBC.COM. WE'LL WRAP UP ON "NIGHTLY NEWS", AND WE'LL BE THE EYES AND EARS INSIDE THAT COURTHOUSE. MOST OF YOU WILL NOW RETURN TO MORE OF THE "TODAY" SHOW. I'M SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, THANKS FOR WATCHING. SELECTION SET TO BEGIN AT THE FIRST EVER CRIMINAL TRIAL OF A FORMERING AS WE SPEAK? &gt;&gt; I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE WAR CABINET AND PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU TO DECIDE, WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T GET AHEAD OF ANY DECISIONS THEY MIGHT MAKE. THE PRESIDENT IN HIS CONVERSATION WITH PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU LAUDED THE AMAZING SUCCESS THEY HAD IN SHOOTING DOWN THE DRONES FIRED AT THEM. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENT. AND HE URGED NETANYAHU TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF THAT GREAT SUCCESS, WHAT THAT MEANT, THE MESSAGE IT SENT, ABOUT ISRAEL'S MILITARY SUPERIORITY AND THAT IRAN FAILED IN THAT WHEY TRIED TO DO. &gt;&gt; BEING BLUNT AS POSSIBLE, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS SAYING TO ISRAEL IS, AS BEEN REPORTED, TAKE THE WIN, IN THE TO RETALIATE? IS THAT THE U.S.'S POSITION, ISRAEL, DON'T RETALIATE? &gt;&gt; AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT MADE IT CLEAR TO PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU THAT THERE WAS MUCH TO -- MUCH TO BE PROUD OF THE OTHER NIGHT IN TERMS OF THE MILITARY SUCCESS. THE PRESIDENT HAS ALSO BEEN VERY CLEAR, IN MULTIPLE VENUES, THAT WE DO NOT SEEK A WAR WITH IRAN, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A WIDER WAR IN THE REGION. &gt;&gt; WELL, AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS STRIKE FROM IRAN WAS IN RETALIATION FOR A STRIKE THAT ISRAEL TOOK AGAINST IRANIAN FORCES IN SYRIA THAT KILLED SEVEN IRGC OFFICERS. THE ISRAELIS GAVE NO HEADS UP TO ITS ALLY, THE U.S., WAS THAT NEEDLESSLY PROVOCATIVE? DO YOU THINK THAT ISRAEL BEARS SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ESCALATING THIS, AND GETTING US TO THIS POINT? &gt;&gt; WELL, LOOK, LET'S BE CLEAR HERE, IRAN HAS BEEN FUNDING, RESOURCING IRAN HAS BEEN FUNDING GROUPS GROUPS LIKE HAMAS, LIKE HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, THE HEZBOLLAH, THE HOUTHIS DOWN IN YEMEN, ALSO OF HOUTHIS IN YEMEN. WHICH, ALSO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALL OF WHICH ALSO, WITH THE HAMAS, AT LEAST PROXY GROUPS, INCLUDING THOSE IN EXCEPTION OF HAMAS, THESE PROXY IRAQ AND SYRIA, ALSO GROUPS, INCLUDING THOSE IN IRAQ PARTICIPATED IN TH AND SYRIA, ALSO PARTICIPATED IN E STRIKE THESE STRIKES AGAINST ISRAEL ON AGAINST ISRAEL ON ISRAEL ISRAELI SOIL.I SOIL, IRAN IS THE ONE WHO WAS PROVIDING THE MEANS AND TH IRAN IS THE ONE WHO'S PROVIDING E RESOURCES THROUGH WH THE MEANS AND THE RESOURCES ICH THESE GROUPS THROUGH WHICH THESE GROUPS AND AND THEIR OWN MILITARY WAS ABLE THEIR OWN MILITARY WAS ABLE TO TO CONDUCT THIS UNPREC CONDUCT THIS UNPRECEDENTED EDENTED ATTACK ON ISRAEL. &gt;&gt; ATTACK ON ISRAEL. GIVEN THAT, &gt;&gt; SO GIVEN THAT, AND GIVEN WHAT AND GIVEN W THE WHITE HOUSE IS SIGNALING THE WHITE HOUSE IS SIGNALING ABOUT IT ABOUT ITS MESSAGING TO THE S MESSAGING TO THE ISRAELIS, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK ISRAELIS, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT HERE, IS THE WHITE HOUSE SAYI TO THE POINT HERE.NG, IN, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN TH IS THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING, YOU E LINES, ESSENTIALLY TO ISRAEL, KNOW, BETWEEN THE LINES, DON'T RETALIATE NOW? I MEAN, THE IRANIANS H ESSENTIALLY, TO ISRAEL, DON'T AVE RETALIATE NOW? CLAIMED THAT THEY HAVE THE IRANIANS HAVE CLAIMED THAT CONCLUDED THEIR RE THEY HAVE CONCLUDED THEIR SPONSE TO THE SYRIA ATTACK RESPONSE TO THE SYRIA ATTACK., SO IS IT THE U.S. SO IS IT THE U.S. POSITION THAT POSITION IF ISRAEL SITS TIGHT, THIS COULD THAT IF ISRAEL SITS TIGHT, THIS CAN END RIGHT NOW? END RIGHT NOW?&gt;&gt; WE WANT TO SEE DEESCALATION, CLEARLY, IN THE REGION, AND EVERYTHING &gt;&gt; WE WANT TO SEE DEESCALATION CLEARLY IN THE REGION, AND EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE SINCE OCTOBER 7th HAS BEEN th HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO KEEP THIS FROM BECOMING A DESIGNED TO KEEP THIS FROM WIDER WAR, SAVANNAH, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP LATCHED UP WITH ISRAELI COUNTERPARTS AND MAKE IT CLEAR AGAIN TO THE ISR BECOMING A WIDER WAR, SF SAVANNAH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOINGAELIS WE'LL DO WH TO KEEP LATCHED UP WITH THE AT WE HAVE TO DO TO DEFEND THEM AND HEL ISRAELI COUNTERPARTS.P THEM IN THEI THAT'S WHY WE WILL KEEP UP WITH R SELF-DEFENSE BUT WE OUR ISRAELI COUNTER PARTS AND MAKE IT CLEAR WE WILL DO WHAT WEDON'T WANT HAVE TO DO TO DEFEND THEM, HELP THEM IN THEIR SELF-DEFENSE, BUT TO SEE A WIDER WAR, WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A WAR WITH IRAN. &gt;&gt; ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ISRAEL DOES NOT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A WIDER WAR. WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A WAR WITH IRAN. &gt;&gt; ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ISRAEL DOES NOT RETALIATE, SOME SAY IF THE U.S. DOESN'T RESPOND DIRECTLY, THEN IRAN WILL SIMPLY POND DIRECTLY, THEN IRAN WILL SIMPLY BE EMBOLDENED, YOU'RE GETTING I BE EMBOLDEN.T FROM BOT HERE YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM BOTH SIDES.H SENATOR JOHN FETTERMAN SAYS HE SIDES. SENATOR JOHN FETTERMAN DISAGREES WITH THE PRESIDENT, SEEMING TO RULE OUT DISAGREES WITH THE PRESIDENT TO ANY U.S RULE OUT ANY U.S. RESPONSE . RESPONSE AGAINST AGAINST IRAN.IRAN, AND DA AND CONGRESSMAN DARENSHAW N CRENSHAW, WHEN YOU DIMINISH THE RETURNS, THE ENEMY FEELS EMBOLDENED TO SAID WHEN YOU DIMINISH STRIKE. &gt;&gt; WHAT WE SAID THE OTHER NIGHT, DETERRENCE, THE ENEMY FEELS IS THAT IRAN IS NO EMBOLDENED TO STRIKE.T MILITARILY SUPERI &gt;&gt; I THINK WHAT WE SHOWED THE OTHER NIGHT IN CONCERT WITH OR, THAT I PARTNERS AND OF COURSE THE RAN IS NOT TEN FEET TALL, AND THAT WE WIL ISRAELIS IS THAT IRAN IS NOT MILITARILY SUPERIOR, THAT IRAN L AC IS NOT 10 FEET TALL AND THAT WE WILL ACT -- THAT ISRAEL IS NOT ALONE. IS NOT ALONE, WE WE WILL ACT WITH THEM ON THEIR WILL ACT WITH THEM IN T SELF-DEFENSE. SELF-DEFENSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT THE INCREDIBLE MILITARY ACHIEVEMENTS THE OTHER NIGHT, AND COME I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT AWAY WITH THE INCREDIBLE MILITARY ANY OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS THE OTHER NIGHT ANDIDEA THAT THE UNITED STATES, THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT COME AWAY WITH ANY OTHER IDEA GOING TO S THAT THE UNITED STATES, THAT TAND BY OUR GO PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT GOING TO OD FRIEND AND ALLY ISRAEL AS THEY STAND BY OUR GOOD FRIEND AND DEFEND THE ALLY ISRAEL AS THEY DEFEND THEMSELVES.MSELVES. &gt;&gt; WE WILL BE HA &gt;&gt; WE WILL BE HAVING A MUCH VING A MUCH DIFFER DIFFERENT CONVERSATION HAD WE CONVERSATION HAD WE NOT HAD THAT INCREDIBLE, AS YOU MENTIONED, ABILI NOT HAD THAT INCREDIBLE, AS YOU TY TO REPE MENTIONED, ABILITY TO REPEL 99% L 99% OF THESE OF THESE MISSILES AND DRONES MISSILES AND DRONES THAT WERE COMING TOWARD ISRAEL, THAT WERE COMING TOWARD ISRAEL. DOES NETANYAHU'S ACTIONS IN THE REGION MAK DOES NETANYAHU'S ACTIONS IN THE E THE U.S. REGION MAKE THE U.S. NERVOUS? NERVOUS? &gt;&gt; I THINK WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TENSIONS &gt;&gt; I THINK WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TENSIONS RISING ALL RISING ALL THROUGHOUT THE REGION, SAVANNAH, THROUGHOUT THE REGION, SAVANNAH. AND, AGAIN AND, AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT THE , EVERYTHING THAT TH PRESIDENT HAS BEEN DOING AND E PRESIDENT HAS BEEN DOING, AND ADDING RESOURCES</p>

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