Speaker Ryan Dismisses Trump’s Charges of a Spy in His Campaign
Posted June 6, 2018 4:16 p.m. EDT
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Paul Ryan agreed on Wednesday that the FBI did nothing wrong by using a confidential informant to contact members of the Trump campaign as it investigated its ties to Russia, contradicting President Donald Trump’s assertions of a broad conspiracy by federal law enforcement.
And he warned that Trump should not try to pardon himself, despite Trump’s assertion two days earlier that the president has the power to take such a step.
“I don’t know the technical answer to that question, but I think obviously the answer is he shouldn’t,” Ryan told reporters. “And no one is above the law.”
Ryan’s warning is another sign that the president is starting to face trouble on Capitol Hill with members of his own party. From international trade and China to immigration and the conduct of his Cabinet, at least some Republicans are beginning to dissent. Sens. Bob Corker of Tennessee and Patrick J. Toomey of Pennsylvania are vowing to attach legislation to a must-pass defense policy bill that would roll back tariffs on steel and aluminum produced in Canada, Mexico and Europe.
Some Republicans are furious about the president’s efforts to lift sanctions on the Chinese telecommunications company ZTE. In the House, two dozen Republicans are demanding votes on legislation that would help young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children, but are balking at the president’s get-tough demands on other immigration matters.
And Iowa’s two Republican senators, Charles E. Grassley and Joni Ernst, came out swinging this week against the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, Scott Pruitt, whom Ernst called “as swampy as you get.”
But for Republicans, no issue is more divisive than the Justice Department probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump has seized on the disclosure of the use of an informant to claim, without evidence, that federal law enforcement officials had improperly placed a spy in his campaign “for political purposes.” He demanded a Justice Department inquiry of the matter and dubbed the matter “SPYGATE” in repeated posts on Twitter.
Ryan became the highest-ranking Republican to throw cold water on that interpretation, which Democrats and former high-level law enforcement officials have claimed is part of an unrelenting effort to discredit the ongoing investigation into Trump and his campaign. Ryan backed Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who led the House’s politically charged investigation into the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, but infuriated some Republican partisans by rebuffing Trump on “Spygate.”
“Chairman Gowdy’s initial assessment is accurate, but we have more digging to do,” Ryan told reporters at a news conference Wednesday.
Gowdy and Ryan were among a small group of congressional leaders briefed on the informant late last month by top officials from the FBI, Justice Department and the office of the director of national intelligence. The unusual meeting came after Trump intervened on behalf of Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., the Intelligence Committee chairman, who was demanding information related to the informant.
Ryan has encouraged Gowdy, a former federal prosecutor and one of House Republicans’ most experienced investigators, to help calm tensions between Nunes and the Justice Department. The two sides have repeatedly clashed as Nunes, a close ally of the president, has demanded greater and greater access to sensitive case files.
Democrats emerged from the highly secretive briefing saying that they had seen “no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intelligence agency placed a ‘spy’ in the Trump campaign, or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols.” But Gowdy was the first Republican to break ranks a few days later, when he said on Fox News that the agency had acted properly.
“I think when the president finds out what happened, he is going to be not just fine, he is going to be glad that we have an FBI that took seriously what they heard,” Gowdy said.
He added: “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.”
People familiar with the matter have said that the informant was a U.S. academic and veteran of Republican administrations who was to trying to glean information about what several campaign aides knew about the Russian efforts to hack into Democratic emails. Sen. Richard M. Burr of North Carolina, the Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also put his support behind Gowdy’s analysis on Wednesday, following Ryan’s remarks. Burr had been silent after participating in the confidential briefing on the matter in late May.
Conservative allies of Trump and Nunes, who have not been briefed on the matter by law enforcement or intelligence officials, have publicly disagreed with Gowdy, claiming that the FBI and Justice Department had essentially pulled wool over the eyes of the South Carolina Republican.
Nunes, for his part, appeared to dismiss the importance of Gowdy’s statements in an interview on Sunday.
“Mr. Gowdy loves the FBI and the Department of Justice,” Nunes said.
Still, Nunes signaled on Sunday that he would like to bring the episode to a close. Speaking on Fox News, he said that he expected the Justice Department to share additional information and documentation with him this week.
“Just provide us all the documents, everything we’re asking for and let us comb all the way through it and we’ll issue a letter on Friday and we’ll be done with this,” Nunes said.
Ryan’s warning on a “self-pardon” reflected other Republican concerns. Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, cast the issue of Trump pardoning himself in similar terms on Tuesday.
“He obviously knows that would not be something that he would or should do,” McConnell said.