Name: On the Record, March 13, 2021: Overcoming vaccine reluctance
Uploaded: 2021-03-16T10:04:26-0400
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Description: Experts share the reasons people are hesitant to get a COVID-19 vaccine and strategies to overcome those concerns.

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Experts share the reasons people are hesitant to get a COVID-19 vaccine and strategies to overcome those concerns.

>>> IT'S TIME TO GO "ON THE RECORD" WITH WRAL NEWS. >> THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PANDEMIC WILL NO LONGER BE A WAITING GAME FOR THE COVID-19 VACCINE. THE SUPPLY WILL BE THERE, BUT WILL THE DEMAND? GOOD EVENING, AND THANKS FOR JOINING US ON "ON THE RECORD." I'M LENA TILLETT. DR. MANDY COHEN SAID IF ROUGHLY 70% OF THE STATE IS VACCINATED, WE SHOULD REACH HERD IMMUNITY AND GET BACK TO NORMALCY, NOT HAVING TO WEAR MASKS, EVEN SOCIAL DISTANCING, FREELY TRAVELING, AND WIDESPREAD PROTECTION FROM THE VIRUS. BUT THIS TIME, THE ROAD AHEAD WILL TAKE MORE THAN SCIENCE. IT WILL TAKE CONVINCING, CONVINCING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, INCLUDING NORTH CAROLINIANS TO GET THE VACCINE. ACCORDING TO HIGH POINT UNIVERSITY'S LATEST POLL ON VACCINE INTEREST IN OUR STATE, TAKE A LOOK AT HER. 40% OF NORTH CAROLINIANS SAID IT INTENT TO GET THE VACCINE WHEN THE SHOT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM. 13% SAID THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN VACCINATED, 34% SAY THEY DID NOT INTEND TO GET THE VACCINE, AND 11% DID NOT KNOW. THAT IS 45% OF THE STATE EITHER UNSURE OR NOT GETTING THE VACCINE, SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT GROUP? IN A RECENT STORY ABOUT VACCINE HESITANCY IN THE ATLANTIC, DEREK THOMPSON WRITES, QUOTE, I CALLED SEVERAL DOCTORS AND RESEARCHERS TO ASK HOW WE COULD REVERSE VACCINE HESITANCY AMONG THE GROUPS IN WHICH IT WAS HIGHEST. THEY ALL TOLD ME THAT MY INITIAL QUESTION WAS TOO SIMPLISTIC. VACCINE HESITANCY IS NOT ONE THING, THEY SAID. IT IS A CONSTELLATION OF MOTIVATIONS, INSECURITIES, REASONABLE PEERS, AND LESS REASONABLE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE EXPERT INSTEAD GAVE THOMPSON FOUR CATEGORIES THAT I THINK REALLY MORE OR LESS SUM UP THE RELUCTANCE HERE VACCINE DISSENT, LIBERATION, INDIFFERENCE, AND DISTRUST. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, AND WE ARE JOINED BY ONE OF THE DOCTORS WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THAT REPORT, DR. GISELLE COLBY SMITH SOUZA PERFECTER OF HEALTH EQUITY RESEARCH. DR. ROBIN PETE IS A PHYSICIAN AND PRESIDENT OF MEDICAL STAFF AT UNC SOUTHEASTERN, AND DR. DEPAK KUMAR A DIRECTOR OF THE CHAMBERS BIOMEDICAL AND BIOTECHNOLOGY RESEARCH INSTITUTE  AT NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH ME TONIGHT. SO I WILL BEGIN WITH YOU, DR. CORBY SMITH . YOU COINED THE TERM VACCINE DELIBERATION FOR THIS  ARTICLE. I THINK IT WAS THE MOST OPTIMISTIC OF THE TERMS . SPEAKING ABOUT RELUCTANCE AMONG BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE, YOU SAID, QUOTE,  WE TALK ABOUT TUSKEGEE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE HISTORY OF EXPLOITATION BY THE MEDICAL FIELD. IT IS THAT CURRENTLY EXPERIENCE WITH THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? AILINA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. WHEN I TALK ABOUT VACCINE DELIBERATION, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT SLOW YES. >> THE DECISION THAT IS BEING MADE, CAUTIOUSLY, BY MANY BLACK AND BROWN PATIENTS, AS THEY EXPERIENCE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, A SYSTEM THAT IS YET TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY VALUE THEIR LIVES  AS HIGHLY AS THE LIVES OF OTHER POPULATIONS. THEY ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. THEY ARE LOOKING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE SIDE EFFECTS FROM THEIR LOVED ONES. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE STATISTIC ABOUT GENERAL SIDE EFFECTS. THEY ARE LOOKING TO SEE HOW MUCH DO YOU CARE. ARE YOU REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS IN OUR COMMUNITY? THESE ARE ALL THINGS PEOPLE ARE DELIBERATING, LOOKING AT CAREFULLY TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, AND IN THIS INSTANCE, THE OLD ADAGE, WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CARE, I CARE WHAT YOU KNOW, IT WORKS. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THAT YOU CARE. I WANT TO KNOW THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN A SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEIR LIVES. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH, BETWEEN THAT HISTORIC ATROCITY, THE TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT, WHICH THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISINFORMATION ABOUT, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT EXPERIMENT IS THEY DID NOT CARE FOR THOSE MEN WHO DID HAVE SYPHILIS, VERSUS CURRENT DAY. WHAT ARE THE DISPROPORTION HEALTH OUTCOMES PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH TODAY? >> WE'RE SEEING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE COLLECTED DATA ON RACE, ETHNICITY, GENDER, SOCIAL CLASS, THAT THERE ARE SOME BETTER ADVANTAGES IN THE SYSTEM, AND THOSE ARE NOT. THERE ARE THOSE THAT ENJOY GOOD HEALTH, OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE A HEALTHY LIFE, AND OTHERS, TYPICALLY BLACK AND BROWN OR RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT EXPERIENCE POOR HEALTH OUTCOMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHETHER IT FROM CHILDBIRTH TO CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, CHRONIC DISEASES, TO ACUTE INFECTIONS LIKE COVID-19 AND VIRAL ILLNESSES. WE SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT AND BURDEN THAT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, POOR COMMUNITIES AND RURAL COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCE IN OUR HEALTH SYSTEM. >> THERE IS SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S ATTITUDE TOWARD WANTING TO GET THE VACCINE . DR. KUMAR SURVEYED YOUR GROUP  BEFORE. IN THE MONTHS SINCE, AT LEAST NATIONAL POLLS SHOW A BIG JUMP IN INTEREST HERE AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE ENOUGH? >> THANK YOU, LENA. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THE SAME TREND WHICH PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THAT WHEN WE STARTED COLLECTING DATA BACK IN AUGUST, OUR HESITANCY WAS AS HIGH AS ABOUT 78%, INDIVIDUALS WERE HESITANT, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR. THEY WERE HESITANT TO TAKE THE VACCINE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TIME IN THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, THERE WAS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE DISEASE, ABOUT THE STATE OF THE NATION, AND WE DID SEE A DECLINE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, BUT NOT AS MUCH IN AFRICAN-AMERICANS. WE DID SEE A DECLINE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE WHITES. WE DID SEE A DECLINE IN LATINOS ALSO, BUT NOT IN AFRICAN-AMERICANS. NOVEMBER COMES, ELECTION COMES, THERE IS A BIT OF HOPE . WE STARTED TO SEE A BIT MORE DECLINING HESITANCY , AND IN NOVEMBER, WHEN WE STARTED GETTING NEWS ABOUT THE VACCINE, WE HAD TO VACCINE SHOWING PROMISE, YOU SEE SIGNIFICANT IF LINE. EVEN THEN, AFRICAN-AMERICAN DECLINE WAS 76% . DECEMBER 18th COME, AND  WE APPROVED TWO VACCINES. THAT IS REALLY GOOD NEWS. ON DECEMBER 19, WE LAUNCHED A NEW SURVEY THAT WAS JUST TO CHECK BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A MOVING TARGET, AND THAT DRIVER OF HESITANCY, WE WANTED TO CAPTURE THAT. FROM DECEMBER AND JANUARY, WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT DECLINES AS MUCH AS HESITANCY IN AFRICAN- AMERICANS IS ABOUT, AND OUR SURVEY IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THIS SURVEY USING PAPER AND PENCIL. IT'S BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE HESITANCY AND UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS, WHO DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE MEANS TO DO THESE SURVEYS USING THESE INTERNET AND DIGITAL METHODS. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO THIS. WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT DECLINES IN THE MONTHS OF DECEMBER AND JANUARY, AFTER THAT VACCINE, YOU KNOW, WAS RELEASED, A LOT OF PEOPLE  HAVE TAKEN. >> AND THAT'S CERTAINLY -- >> WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, IF I MAY, IS THAT THE CLIENT IS DIFFERENT IN LOCATIONS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, DR. PEACE, I WANT TO PLAY A SOUNDBITE FOR YOU AND ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BREAK. THIS IS SOME SECRETARY MANDY: AS WE COULD TALKED A LOT ABOUT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION  OF THE VACCINE. LET'S TAKE A LISTEN. >> WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE EVERY LEVER WE HAVE TO INJURE MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS CAN EASILY ACCESS THE COVID-19. WITH HOW WE ALLOCATE THE VACCINE, WHO WE ALLOCATE VACCINES TO, WHICH EVENTS WE CAN SUPPORT, WHERE WE DEPLOY STATE RESOURCES, >>> WELCOME BACK TO "ON THE RECORD." TONIGHT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITY OF HAS A TEENSY AND HOW TO TACKLE REALLY CUFF CONVERSATIONS . DR. PEACE, I PLAYED THAT SOUND FROM DR. COHEN BEFORE THE BREAK,  WHERE ESSENTIALLY SHE'S AT ALL RESOURCES WILL BE USED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE VACCINE. YOU ARE IN THE TRENCHES. ARE YOU SEEING THESE EFFORTS THE STATE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND WHERE COULD THEY BE BETTER? >> YES, I AM IN LUMBERTON, AND WE HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH THE NUMBER OF VACCINES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO ROBERTSON COUNTY, WHERE I AM . WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING  TO OUR COUNTY FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AND EVEN OTHER STATES TO GET THERE VACCINE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE NUMBER OF VACCINES THAT ARE COMING. I HAVE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE. I WONDER IF THEY ARE GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM CHARLOTTE IN THE TRIANGLE AREA, EVEN SOUTH CAROLINA TO RECEIVE THEIR COVID VACCINES. >> LENA, IF I COULD? >> SURE. >> I WANTED TO JUMP IN BECAUSE DR. PIECE MAKES AN IMPORTANT POINT, AND DR. COUPLED WITH DR. KUMAR'S COMMENTS, I WANT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON SOMETHING. THAT ADDS UP BOXES, WE KNEW THERE WAS HESITANCY, QUOTE FLUSH" HESITANCY. YOU POINTED OUT, YOU PREFER THE TERM DELIBERATION BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BLAME THE VICTIM FOR NOT MOVING FORWARD IN A DECISION. AND YOU KNOW, THESE SLOW YESES REQUIRE SHOWING AND DEMONSTRATING A SYSTEM THAT IS TRUSTWORTHY, THAT IS WORTHY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLACING THEIR TRUST IN THEM. SINCE AUGUST, WE KNEW WE HAD AN ISSUE THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS, AND DR. PEACE IS DESCRIBING WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE CALLED VACCINE TOURISM, MOVING INTO BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES FROM OTHER AREAS, OTHER GEOGRAPHIES, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT , OF THE SLOW YES OF THIS DELIBERATION, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT GOES BACK AGAIN TO WHAT DR. KUMAR TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS HIS DIGITAL DIVIDE. WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT HAS EQUALED. IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS BROADBAND ACCESS, IF YOU HAVE A COMPUTER OR SOME OTHER WAY TO GET INTO THAT ACCESS, IF YOU HAVE A JOB THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE TIME OFF TO TROLL THE INTERNET AND FIND AS VACCINES, IF YOU HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION TO DRIVE FROM CHARLOTTE TO LUMBERTON TO GET THE VACCINE, SO WHEN WE'RE -- >> HOW THEN -- DO YOU TURN PEOPLE AWAY? ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NORTH CAROLINA, CAN YOU TURN THEM AWAY AND SAY LOOK, THIS WAS MEANT FOR AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION, OR DO YOU HAVE TO JUST GIVE PEOPLE THE PROTECTION THAT THEY ALSO ARE ENTITLED TO, BASED ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED? >> YEAH, WE CAN'T TURN THEM AWAY , AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I MAKE TO PATIENTS AS I AM TALKING TO THEM, THE ONES THAT ARE STILL ON THE FENCE, IS LOOK. WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING FROM OTHER PARTS OF OUR STATE TO COME AND GET THEIR SHOT? YOU KNOW, WELL YOU ARE WAITING AND DELIBERATING, THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR COUNTY. WE ARE GETTING ALL THESE VACCINES BECAUSE WE ARE, IN FACT, GETTING ALL THESE VACCINES BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUNTY FULL OF PEOPLE WITH HIGH RISK CONDITIONS THAT ARE AT RISK OR IN SERIOUS ILLNESS, AND THEY ARE FROM COVID. I ACTUALLY USE THAT TO COACH PEOPLE OFF THE FENCE. >> INTERESTING. AND KUDOS TO YOU, DR. PEACE. YOU MAKE SUCH A GOOD POINT TO REALLY USE THIS TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT IT IS SUCH A GOOD VACCINE, THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE TO GET THE VACCINE, SO I THINK THAT IS SUCH A GOOD WAY OF SEEING THINGS. THE OTHER PIECE ALSO, WHAT I HAVE NOTICED, IS PEOPLE ARE FEELING COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE WAS A SENSE OF ARE WE GETTING THE SAME VACCINE AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, FIRST OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE FROM, YOU KNOW, EVERY CLASS AND EVERY COLOR COMING, THE LOCATION, THEN THEY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. YES, WE'RE ALSO GETTING THE SAME VACCINE, AND WE HAVE TO USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY. >> I WOULD SAY ONE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. ACTUALLY, NO LONGER MISSED, BUT MISSED EARLY ON MAYBE, WAS THE REALLY IMPORTANT NETWORK OF COMMUNITY-BASED, FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS IN EACH OF OUR COMMUNITIES, EACH OF OUR BLACK, BROWN, RURAL, URBAN COMMUNITIES THAT COULD ALSO PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN ENSURING THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TRUSTED SOURCE TO GO TO, IN ADDITION TO THEIR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL, TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING ME OR ROBIN, BUT BUT THEY MIGHT FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER OR ELDER IN THE COMMUNITY , AND PAIRING THOSE INDIVIDUALS , MOTIVATIONS, AND PEOPLE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION, TO HAVE ACCESS, AND TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THE VACCINE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE SEEING THAT SHIFT AND PIVOT IN TERMS OF UPTAKE AS WELL ACROSS OUR STATE. >> WE HAVE TWO PIECES OF VIDEO SHOWING WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, DR. CORBY SMITH. WE HAVE VIDEO FROM A VACCINE DISTRIBUTION SITE IN ROCKY MOUNT HAPPENING AT A CHURCH, AND AS A RESULT, MORE OF THE PARISHIONERS WERE COMING OUT, TRUSTING THE PASTOR. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE PASTOR RIGHT THERE, TRUSTING IF THE PASTOR WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AT HIS CHURCH, THIS MUST BE A VACCINE WORTH TAKING. IN ANOTHER SITUATION, CENTRO HISPANO HAD A CLINIC IN DURHAM WHERE THEY TOLD OUR REPORTER, LESLIE MORENO, THAT SHE WAS SO UNSURE OF GETTING THE VACCINE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION HELD ITS VACCINE CLINIC, AND IT MADE HER FEEL LIKE IT WAS TRUSTWORTHY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND SO MUCH MORE WITH YOU THREE COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK. I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU ARE HEARING NOW >>> WELCOME BACK TO THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT VACCINE RELUCTANCE. I WANT TO GET BACK TO DR. PEACE , PARTICULARLY BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAMILY PHYSICIAN AND SERVE PARTS OF ROBERTSON COUNTY, AND I KNOW YOU SEE EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC, INCLUDING A LOT OF RULES AND RULE RESIDENTS. >> THE NUMBER ONE THING I HEAR IS PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE AFRAID BECAUSE THE VACCINE CAME OUT TOO FAST. THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT NOT ENOUGH RESEARCH WAS DONE, THAT IT WAS RUSHED TO EMERGENCY USE. THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT LONG- TERM PROBLEMS THAT THEY MAY HAVE . I RECENTLY HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN CONCERNED IT'S GOING TO MAKE THEM INFERTILE, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE THE SICKEST, THAT WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE VACCINE EVEN MORE THAN OTHERS, THEY ARE WORRIED BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE TOO SICK TO TAKE THE VACCINE. THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT MEDICAL PROBLEMS THEY HAVE AND MAY BE TOO SICK, AND SEVERE ALLERGIES, THERE ARE PATIENTS THAT HAVE HAD ANAPHYLACTIC REACTION TO DIFFERENT MEDICATIONS.  MAYBE BAD EXPERIENCE WITH INFLUENZA VACCINE, SO YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SINGING  I'M WORRIED I'M GOING TO HAVE A SEVERE REACTION. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY BACK TO THEM? DO YOU RESPOND TO EACH CONCERN WITH A VERY SPECIFIC RESPONSE? >> WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO BECAUSE EVERY PERSON IS DIFFERENT, BUT THE FIRST THING I START OFF IS I BELIEVE THAT THE VACCINE IS SAFE,  IS EFFECTIVE, AND I WAS THE FIFTH PERSON IN ROBESON COUNTY TO TAKE THE VACCINE. I TOOK IT EARLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE AN EXAMPLE  TO THE PATIENTS I SERVE. I WANTED THEM TO KNOW IF I WOULDN'T TAKE IT IF I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS SAFE. PEOPLE DON'T SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW UNLESS THEY KNOW THAT YOU CARE, SHE'S RIGHT, AND WHAT I TELL EVERY PATIENT IS THAT SOME OTHERS MAY HAVE A CERTAIN AGENDA. MY AGENDA IS 100% EYECARE. I CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOMES OF THE PATIENTS IN MY COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT IS WHY I CONTINUE TO USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT I BELIEVE THE VACCINE IS SAFE, EFFECTIVE, AND YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR SHOT. >> DR. KUMAR, RESEARCH SHOWS HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ARE THE MOST TRUSTED ENTITIES IN THE COUNTRY AT THIS POINT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JOURNALISTS THAT ARE ABLE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE. ARE YOU ALL TESTING CERTAIN MESSAGES TO SEE WHAT WORKS, AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THEY? HELP US OUT. >> WE ARE, AND WE ARE TESTING DIFFERENT KIND OF MESSAGES. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN THE SAME THING EVERY COMMUNITY IS SAYING. THEY WANT TO TRUST HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS EVEN MORE SO THAN THE FAITH-BASED LEADERS. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING EVERYWHERE. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SEEING , DOING DIFFERENT KIND OF TESTING. FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR PROJECT, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE ROBESON COUNTY , WE ARE FOCUSING MORE IN THE FAMILY VALUE, THE KINSHIP OF MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES, A MESSAGE BASED ON THAT IS A BIT MORE EFFECTIVE THAN OTHER MESSAGES. WE ALSO HEARD FROM SMALL FOCUS GROUPS TO IDENTIFY WHAT KIND OF MESSAGES. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THESE SOBER MESSAGES. PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LOVED ONES, THEIR FAMILIES, FAMILY MEMBERS. THEY WANT SOME POSITIVITY, SO WE ARE INCLINED TO PORTRAY SOME OF THAT. WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO MESSAGES WHERE WE HAVE SURVIVORS FROM THE COMMUNITY IN IMAGES SO THEY SEE SOMEBODY THAT CAN BE RECOGNIZED AS LOOK, THEY HAVE TAKEN THE VACCINE. THE TRIBAL LEADERS AND ROBESON COUNTY  TOOK THE SHOT AND WERE ON THE PAGE, AND THEY ARE SHOWING THE VACCINATION SHOTS. I THINK THOSE KIND OF MESSAGES HELP TO TELL PEOPLE THAT IT IS A SAFE VACCINE, EFFECTIVE VACCINE, AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE. >> ANOTHER THING I TELL PEOPLE IS THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST TAKING IT FOR YOU. YOU ARE TAKING IT FOR YOUR LOVED ONES THAT COULD GET SICK AND DIE FROM COVID. YOU ARE TAKING IT FOR YOUR COWORKERS. YOU ARE TAKING IT FOR YOUR FRIENDS, FOR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR CHURCH. A LOT OF DECISIONS WE MAKE, IT ONLY AFFECTS US AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS VACCINE? IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO APPEAL TO PEOPLE'S SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN THEIR HEART FOR THEIR FELLOW MAN. >> HONESTLY, AS A PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR MYSELF, I AM HONEST WITH MY PATIENTS ABOUT MY INITIAL DELIBERATION, AND I SHARE WITH THEM THE DATA THAT I LOOKED AT ALSO TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I SHARE WITH THEM THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH MY PARENTS, MY 91 AND 84-YEAR-OLD PARENTS ABOUT THEM GETTING THE VACCINE, AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE GONE FORWARD AND GOTTEN IT , AND MY SISTER HAS GOTTEN THE VACCINE, SO I THINK THERE IS NO WAY TO BE OTHER THAN AUTHENTIC AND HONEST ABOUT, SORT OF, THE WAY THAT EACH OF US HAS APPROACHED THIS. IT IS NOT AS COMPLICATED, NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN,  BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. >> DR. CORBIE-SMITH, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THIS INFORMATION OUT THERE, IT CAN REALLY GET YOU DISCOURAGED WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON FACEBOOK, BUT WE ARE SEEING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS NEXT PHASE OF CONVINCING AMERICANS WILL BE THE NEXT GREAT CHALLENGE OF OUR COUNTRY, OF OUR STATE? >> LENA, THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION. PROBABLY MORE COMPLICATED THAN WE HAVE TIME FOR, BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WE ENTRUST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CHOICES THAT ARE IN CONCERT WITH THEIR OWN VALUES. I THINK RECENTLY, PARTICULARLY THROUGHOUT THIS PANDEMIC, WE HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETELY HONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT GIVEN THE INFORMATION THE WAY PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR IT, SO THAT IT'S EASILY DIGESTIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE, AND THAT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS IN LINE WITH THEIR VALUES, AND FUNDAMENTALLY, FOR THOSE OF US IN RESEARCH AND THOSE OF US IN HEALTH CARE, IT IS ABOUT STAYING WITH OUR PATIENTS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT DECISION THEY MAKE, THAT WE'LL ALWAYS BE THERE TO HELP THEM IN THEIR NEXT STEP. >> AND YOU ARE ALL THE THREE BEST TO DO IT. DR. KUMA

Jodi Leese Glusco

On the Record, March 13, 2021: Overcoming vaccine reluctance

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Seen some activity just in the past 10 minutes or so. I want to take you outside Sky five right now for a live look at the scene. We saw a van being escorted to the runway there and someone got out and now there appears to be a really careful inspection of the debris going on. So we're working to confirm if that may be the NTSB investigation team arriving at the scene. Let's zoom out and give you some about where this is. There are two main runways at RDU International and this is in the grassy field next to the runway that mostly serves terminal one on the east side of the airport, that runway remains closed while this investigation continues at the top of your screen. That is the other main runway that serves terminal two, mostly that runway is open. So we have two things going on here that could affect your flights for the rest of the day and maybe even into tomorrow, the airport takeoff and landing capacity is roughly reduced by half because they are only working with one runway. And if you have a flight coming out of terminal one, maybe Southwest, you're going to have to take that crossover all the way out to that other runway. It's going to add a lot of extra time.

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Sky 5 flies over plane crash at RDU

RDU Airport Authority gives an update on a plane crash that sent a physician and pilot to the hospital. The crash occurred Wednesday morning on a flight that took off from Wilmington.

<p>Landguth first, I want to extend my thoughts to those affected by this morning's aircraft accident and thank our first responders for their quick action to respond. The airport authority and its mutual aid partners responded to an aircraft accident at RDU involving a general aviation aircraft. The accident occurred at approximately 10:10 a.m. in the grass next to runway five, right 23 left. The flight was arriving from Wilmington, North Carolina. The A the aircraft is owned by medical Air Inc and operated by UN C air operations. The aircraft had two people on board, one pilot and one passenger. Both were transported to area hospitals. The federal A Bush administration issued a ground stop that was lifted at approximately 1130 this morning. The Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board have both been notified. The National Transportation Safety Board is en route and expected to arrive within the next hour at which time we will conduct an accident investigation. Rdu's runway five left 23 right reopened to departing and arriving aircraft around 11:30 a.m. this morning. Are you experiencing approximately 70 delays and several arriving flights were diverted to other airports? Until ground stock was lifted, travelers should contact their airline for the latest updates regarding the flight status. And of course questions about the identity and condition of the pilot and passenger should be directed to UN C health. And at this time I'll try to answer any questions. You may have, uh, the one, any other accidents in, in the past. I'm not familiar with any other accidents have occurred with that operation. I don't know, uh, that's the role of the National Transportation Safety Board. They'll actually come in and do the investigation. Uh, and at some point in the future, they write up a report and determine what the cause of the accident was. You know, that there was no notification to the airport authority or to the FAA uh about any type of emergency on board. Do we have a guy? We don't, all we know that we've got them out of the airplane and we've got them transported to local hospitals. We know situations like this and delays have a ripple effect on, you know, flights. Do you have any idea what type of impact we'll see here in our view and for not sure, but what we're going to encourage everybody to do is reach out to your airlines. We'll be able to give you real time information about the impact of your particular flight. Ok. I believe some of them went to Greensboro and I think a couple went to Charlotte as well. What, what to be impacted due to the NTSD. Say that one more time at this point in time, what we call the west side of our airport is now open the investigation they'll conduct will all be on the east side. So at this point, we are anticipating normal operations returning to normal operations from this point forward. I don't think that anything that they're doing regarding the investigation or where they would have to investigate would have any impact to the west side of the airport. No, the aircraft is still on the airfield itself. It's on the east side of the field. So terminal one that runways the east side of the field, that's where the debris field actually sits, the west side of the field is open and operational and safe to operate. Not that I'm aware of in operations for you throughout this event today. What was your main concern concerning the passengers that were in the internals? Right. I think our primary focus when, when that accident occurred were the two people sitting in that aircraft? Our primary mission is to make sure we can get to them and try to rescue them and try to make sure that we can get them in a safe condition as fast as we possibly can. Uh secondarily is trying to figure out then how we recover and get our operations back up and running. Mhm. How does that affect? What goes on term? Yeah, so great. Question. So the team has figured out a way to get all the aircraft they're gonna operate at terminal one. Your Southwest develops. Uh We've got a crossover taxi way that we can actually get them through our general aviation aircraft. We've got a crossover taxiway, we can get them to. But the rest of the uh accident scene is actually kind of isolated and closed and locked off. Yeah, you're terminal one at this point in time. Once they can get back on their schedule, it's going to be a normal operations. All right. Thank you guys. All right. Thank you. Grab your phone, right.</p>

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