Harnett County Board of Education
The Harnett County Board of Education meets to discuss the instructional calendar for the rest of the semester.
singer in separate areas. It might take them. Second, you get here and they're listening to the stream. And we know it's a little delayed too. So come. Well, it's just that in the lineup right up here. Territory. Oh, I okay. Okay. Yeah. No. Everybody All right. Here comes Mr Man. Good morning. How are you doing? Well, e really don't have a lot. That's any different than what I probably share Last. Maybe we've been, uh we've been doing about as well as could be expected. Most of the we've had some issues where we have had a positive test with our, uh, central office custodial, uh, support staff, Uh, down e one day. But all those air Instance where there have been instances where employees Uh huh. Who came to work there subsequently tested positive. But we're not situations where we have transmission within the site from one to another. Hearing were basically it's man quarantine. Those that have been in contact or whatever they time. 10 days now. Uh, that's pretty much where we are. We have used our, uh, like technology that you authorized that I mentioned last week. Uh Thio area Custodial Services area. and continue using our students as well. So that's pretty much where we are at this time. In a questions. Is it a 28 22? Is that being used on a regular basis? It's been used on a regular basis in the, uh, what color Children's. Where they would put somebody that might be suspected or might have leader when they arrived at school might be suspected. Thio be exhibiting some symptoms and then in other rooms, rotated around this meeting. We don't have enough thio every room every day, but it's used for where we might have a concern or suspicion that we might have a issue or have somebody there that had s. So in addition to room three would have my concerns or conditions and so forth eyes. They're set up on a regular schedule, too. Maybe rotating treats. Room gets to the least one video development plan Thio, like the lay around soup and on the on a regular basis so that there are opportunities for each classroom Have yes, So in your opinion, it is paying off. Yes, sir, and certainly a So I think I shared last time. Really has been really positive received by your staff because it eliminates the meat for them. Thio, begin that room for a long period of time, wiping down sanitizing. Where's the bright light? Takes care of this. Maps, uh, setting it up, But it all coming back. The legal If they come back after the time period ends and moving Thio. Anything else for me? Thank you. Thank you, Thank you. Start. So what? This first come in. Next. We'll follow. That would miss the deal first. Let's come on. Oh, no. Cool. Oh, okay. What? Going into your jacket. Members of the bulwark. Uh, the same. My name has been very busy addressing needs during home. In the past month, we had Thio had a picture of power school. So we put all the information in power school when it would communicate with Tim's, which will make a running bus routes easier. So that's one improvement we were able to add. We're looking at our high school registration for next year. This is the time of year that kids register for their fall classes. Other scheduled next year, Middle I mean, in high school. So we put the course guide online and again when we use power school. So the students, their parents can race your for classes online. Um, do the code. We email or mail our report cards to families. And we had both the six weeks in the nine weeks ending this month and we send those out. It is time. It's the time that you that we recruit for the Harnett County early college and we also made that happen so that that could be done online and interviews could be virtually, um, kindergarten. Restoration is the next thing. It's time Thio get our kindergarteners for the fall. So we're working out creating videos and online again for parents and students. We could do that online. We also have to look at CPR certification for our seniors are early graduates. They have to have that as a requirement to graduate. And we had thio figure out how to do as much of that is. Virtual is, we could, and we're now we're looking our eighth grade classes because that's the requirement, usually have them finish before they get to high school. We didn't order mask and bill covers for our course, our middle school course in high school course and band classes. We're having our first virtual science fair this week. We made a science fair virtual after much thought consideration, checking with other District's and talking thio different people who handle this. We did have to cancel Battle of the books for this year and heart it off Broadway. We're working on professional development for teachers and we absolutely another plate in schools that have mandatory P. D. That we actually had teachers who license expire in June who have reached out to us so we could set up, you know, continue to set up virtual PD opportunities for them. And, of course, we're also working with the schools to provide some virtual tutoring for students, um, in the evenings or after school. And then we have that going in a couple of places where we continue right support teachers and working with the principles on creative ways to make to cover classes when we do have a quarantine or someone out due to code, and how we can help cover that or using everyone else in the school. We've also used to see in a central office staff to go to cover schools, have one covering this morning. We're testing. We had suits come in for a face to face testing with the state testing we're now are building year diagnostic. We're very fortunate because we could do that virtually in online. And that's just update of the impact that we've had this past month, things that we're doing to address it. Any questions, Mr To my question e, have a question. How did it work out? How did it work out without students coming me from the new terms? How did it work out with it? All the students coming into the midterms, we actually have tested about 92% which is higher than we thought we would do. So we're very pleased. And we're reaching out to the others. Trying Thio set up times for them to come in the high school. Principals, I have to tell you, they just did a phenomenal job with the schedule of the plan and we just made it work. And they did a great job. They told us how they thought it would work best, and we put it in place. Good. Thank you. We have our middle school scheduled to go back to four days a week Next in the next week. I mean, the first thing about do we have any issues with classroom size? I know we sent out a request to the schools by phone. Let's find out how many kids were coming in. We have any issues of concern going back four days a week. Yes, sir. With our middle schools were right on the border line as faras um, interesting that four day week that we may not be able to maintain the guidelines for social distancing and those air still in place with our middle and high schools. Now our high schools numbers were the opposite. They were like 40 60. But our middle schools there is some concern waken maintain social distancing with numbers that may be interested in that day. What's our contingency for that? If we do get above 50% we would have Thio doctor pointing that way we're gonna talk about that. The executive order currently in place and published by DHHS, is the middle of high schools have toe remain in plan B. Middle high schools remain in plan B and, uh, you can't do a plan B with greater than the density allowing for the 6 ft social distancing, and that is the issue that we're having with middle school. A little bit of the issue with high school is you have somebody specialized classes if it's PC or if it's in the arts or in CTE, where you can't just move classrooms around because you need a specific lab area. And so we'll talk about that here just a little bit. Our concern is keeping that density density, as required by the state guide executive forward. The reason I'm asking is your music and your band classes are in a condensed area, right? And just it's harder. That's that's That's a good thing on with the response that we got back to the parents. There is concern to build school that number too high of 1960 such a distance. We'll await that conversation later. Okay, you first of all, thank you and your staff. Are you working? Done? Sounds like they're really busy creating a universal things. All of you so forth to us. Have you had a chance to see much feedback from parents regarding the virtual report cards? Even a um, no way. Not. Not enough for a good group to say, Supposed to a response, I most of it has been positive. They just want to receive them. You know, they just have pick ups with data management school for him. Uh, mailing it has him since we started mailing last year for parents remember to update their addresses in power school. So it's help us there, but I really don't have a lot of back one way or the other. And I think that's because the teachers and the principals do such a good job of handling the lower level of school level. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I will have Mexico guilty being next. Come on. Help. Yeah, you. Morning. Okay, so first cooking updates for finance. We talked about the money that we transfer last time. So taking care of all of that, we're working closer with a dark apartment on. Um, whatever. We need todo the late to middle class today. Um, So right now, you're just kind of holding pattern this far That that's decided. Coming, correct. Any assets that happens a lot. That would you pay early today's paper paper? You, um, ease the burden of the long, um, here. This fantasy that. I really interesting. Um, anyone having to send a fighting, Mr Chairman? I mean, yes, we talked about transfers coated money to further use. Were we able to transfer those? Are they being all of those? What makes with every single word, uh, spending way to eat all that original deadline? Just They did extend that deadline that we had already marked it off. You still have some remaining confident anything? Oh, well, all right. Well, this you're gonna miss Thompson next. Okay? Mhm. Good morning, E. Okay. Good morning. Um, just to know that when the primary things in human resource is, we're working on leave. I'm talking more about that a little bit. That's one of our biggest jobs right now. Um, we're working on a plan to recruit remotely on into the spring until things change. So we have opportunities to have our staff to be able to interview possible candidates. We are exploring the possibility if even if there is a need for incentive for substitutes, I get more feedback on that. Probably the next meeting principles were giving me their feedback on that. We are run into some difficulties with new teacher requirements. Just so you know that surrounds the substitute issue. You know, new teachers have to observe other teachers teach, and there is a bit of a problem with that because we are having trouble with enough subs to cover the number access that we have. So we're trying to attack that from a new angle and just live instruction on Wednesdays. We're encouraging. Our new teachers should try to observe that if there is not in your work other our Chinese forgot because on Wednesdays people do not need stuff, so that's helpful. Just be aware. This also has affected our crack to come. And student teachers. We are live student teachers to be in the building, but that is all private considers and build places. You're doing all their requirements virtually, and one of the biggest projects we have this I'm going is the response. We have an unemployment where we don't have a lot of people still filing. There is a lot of appeals, and then people also can appeal the appeal and said, We'll continue to work on that permit. You have any questions? I'm glad to answer how many classes you'll give a report later on a number of classroom issues. I mean your normal monthly report for classroom issues like the e ast. We're going into a more full load in our Miller High School. Wanna make sure we've got enough folks around not overloading or over the birdie converting? I was like that for years now. Thank you. Thank you. The first look. Oh, bottom way of Mr White Students Service. Oh! Oh, Good morning, Chairman Jaggers members with how much too quick updates from student health services regarding where we are as a district number one. As you know, we were part of the holiday from State North Carolina to be able to receive Kobe rapid antigen test for our employees and students. Eso We started that process last Wednesday. It's been successful so far. Who does your school nurses, Mister Johnson, her team but an outstanding job of getting prepared. They worked Tim in tandem with the health department and were trained how to distribute those tests and how to be able to give those to our employees. And so we've been very pleased with process so far. We're moving into this week. Um, what's it now that we're back in school for four days a week, employees can make appointments in order to be able to get Kobe Rapids and rapid energy tests on. Then we'll look at being aggressive starting next week for students who may have symptoms while they're in the building. Well, we get started that process for our students next week. Eso We're very, very excited about having those We have been able to catch a couple of people who were not who did not know that they actually had coaching during those Wednesdays Wednesdays. We've been doing politest thing, so it's been very good for us so far. From a vaccination perspective, we are working with the Health Department to be able to get that that seem, distribute to our employees. That's an ongoing process, what we've done from the heart account of schools perspective that we survey our employees and have them send back responses to those who like to voluntarily take that scene problems that we've had a great response rate for that There are people who are constantly getting in contact. Workers to also get consent forms did not get a chance to registered in the beginning, and so we'll probably have well over 1,502,000 employees that get vaccinated s So we're hoping that process has an opportunity extradited from a kind of perspective. They've been amazing working with us and let us know human updates. And so we should have more nation about that amount of time with me in our former board meeting next week. And so again, we're excited about where we're moving. Our nurses are doing an outstanding job. All of our staff doing stand up being proactive in this process, and we'll just continue to keep tweaking and working to maximize. We get our students back into Mr Water. You having any problem? Or is the health department having any problems getting the doses of? Actually, Mr Ross and his team way just recently are doing a great job getting that into the county and get those dollars people. I'm always you're looking at trying to find volunteers and people will help you. But I think with the dosage that they received along with heart health and good folks over the hospital, they're what they're doing. I feel really good over the next few weeks that will be able to really start this process and get it moving along, especially heart. So they kind of they kept us in the loop every step of the way on dso Assume that they know something. They let us know. We're trying to be proactive getting organized for folks. So they were very something. That's great. Center are people get better? They Excuse me. I didn't hear his his report very well. Have you started the vaccinations for the teachers? Are When are you going to start? I didn't hear this man actually working with, uh, eso from anticipation perspective. Maybe, uh, in the next few weeks, but we're not really sure we have a meeting scheduled for Thursday to be able to get some more information on day. I'll be able to probably have a much better report for you at our board meeting next monday. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Thank you very much. Oh, thank you, Mr Roy. Just Thio, wrap this up. We, uh, one other thing. I wanna add Thio about vaccinations. We are meeting with our Emergency management director this week on using our school sites for mass vaccine. Uh, mass vaccination centers, a Z We really get into the heat of not just vaccinating our employees, but the public and AZM or vaccines come in on our produced. Uh, they would like to use our parking lots. And so, uh, maybe even our school, but we're not using them. So I think that's a good sign that our county is prepared working to be prepared as we receive more vaccines. Uh, Mr Chairman, I I do want Thio. There were questions about this, and I do want toe delve into that a bit regarding most recent board action where February 1st we would go. Basically, it's a plan A for middle schools and then February 15th, planning in high school, checking on this and looking at potential density and use of rooms and our school facilities. We believe that we would be in violation of the government's executive order if we did that. Ultimately, school calendars and structural schedules are set by the Board of Education. So we're gonna dio however the board sees on that. But I would recommend that this time it seems that our staff do appreciate our does appreciate the Wednesdays for catching up with parents for small groups uh, doing some team planning online. My recommendation right now is to continue K 12 in part Kennedy, Uh, the schedule, which would be, uh, the A B for middle of high school. And, uh, the four day, uh, scheduled for elementary by now. Currently right now has to remove school or not in the building. It all right? No, they are they to day, eighties, get and then element, it's four days. I always say it's It's two days for each group making the four days, but then we have a whole group four day for Kay Pfeiffer Elementary School. And our pre K program is operating on five days. Because of the state funding, we can reduce that, but it is a burden on the teachers because they have to maintain the same hours, even remotely. Eso we've kept pre k a five days. We have, um, been doing again. The four days with Wednesday's remote for elementary and then middle of high school has been the two day a V scheduled with promote on Friday. You're assuming remote on Wednesday. Uh, my recommendation is to admin vital to the agenda, uh, to continue on our current path until further notice on, and probably a further notice would just be a change of executive order. Well, Dr Fleming, I think we need to clarify Wednesdays because I get a lot of questions. Asked me about that, and there's a lot of interpretation going out there. There. I get the questions that they're teachers. They're not absolutely cannot do any live instructional Wendy's Wednesday they can't dio. I think we need a definition of what Wednesday actually is so that it's across the whole district. It's the same. Yeah, and and so what we've done on Wednesdays is we'll never tell a teacher they cannot have live instruction on Wednesday. Um uh, So teachers may teach on Wednesdays like they normally do. That is okay, But we've given some latitude to the schools and the teachers on what Wednesday's look like in the sense of if they need to follow up with parents, either through Google meat or phone or whatever it may be for some of our schools or teachers may wanna have small groups reading groups, uh, breakout groups throughout the day. They could do that as well, and that gets a little more about one on one small group instruction. They may want to do a common planning with their department or the grade level over Google Meet. Uh, that is okay. Our principles may want to do some type of staff meeting over Google meat out of Wednesday. That is Okay, so we're not gonna tell teacher they cannot teach. What we've done, though, is we've given some latitude to the principals and teachers on really what they're Wednesday looks like. Regardless, there needs to be something students are working on that day. But it doesn't necessarily have to be that typical class you've seen Monday. Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. So this is this is our virtual. Yes, everything is virtual yes. On Wednesday. I just want to clarify at no point time where we say that students do not have work on E. There is instruction. Whether it's Karius Hall is it's something that was given on Tuesday to complete with e would make a motion that we add school calendar to the action items. Action item C Second It had what? The school calendar. So we can we can actually vote on what Dr Clemens talking about. I have a motion in the second, um, any further discussion? The motion is just so we can actually officially do what we need to do to change the calendar. Because my mind calls you talk about your call. My mind calls that I've gotten have been planted, you know, they plants, um, planning time, you know? So a corner that that gives them time to do it forever. Kind of planning. They need to correct. But I thought I thought they were doing all of that right now on Wednesday. What he just said they are and that Mr Gadhafi was just kind of backing that up. Okay, I have emotion. Is that any further discussion on that? And that here in the chairman? Folks, I got, uh uh huh. Jason Leffler time. Okay, any neighbors hearing the name? That's motion carries. That's added the item number. See? Under action. Okay, moving along Thio. The next one is Thehyperfix County schools. Uh, government don't want architectural committee. Yes, Um thank you, Mr Chairman. We mentioned in our last meeting, and we moved into our discussion for the work session today. Uh, this was a committee that was around prior to my arrival in Harnett County, where, uh, employees from Harney County schools and employees from Harney County government would work together and locating school sites. Uh, determining school renovations. Determine where sewer water needed to be going toe benefit school district. Uh, in kind of having some conversations, the suggested makeup. If the board would like to move forward on this and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it would be the superintendent, the county manager, elite staff member from Harney County schools. Probably in our case would be the maintenance director on then, uh, someone a colleague from the county on that Ah, Board of Education member, where Commissioner Member G. I s and development services from the county. The board architect just Mr Tom Hughes and then the council from from each board there could be others that members of the public uh, the idea would be to look at school sites determined, cost the feasibility thio kind of prospect for land, uh, to work with school architect, determine if the school go on a particular piece of land on what that would look like. And of course, uh, the lawyers to dio all the great work of lawyers dio keep us within, uh, within the lines there. So that would be my suggestion. If you feel like we need to move forward on this again completely your decision, it would be an ad hoc committee of the board, which is with important policy. The chairman would our chairman would name of a board member and potentially a potential co chair on. Then that would happen a swell on the on the commissioner side. I actually believe since it's our board, the chairman would name the chairman of the committee on then, uh, one or two board that you can have up to board members. Uh, because, of course, because of how big a committee e mean, I think we definitely need help from the public. And so I don't know if you could contact advisory boards or something. I just didn't have The committee you're talking about way would not want it to be a huge committee because it is a committee. But we would want to be where you had enough decision makers on the board to be able to other committee that they could advise school board in the commissioner's. I'm where todo um, if you wanted advisory board members on there, I think that's a great voice from here. You have to be careful, because sometimes, uh, get into the grandma or Grandpa has land. They want to sell type stuff. You don't want to get into that. But, um, you I definitely do. You know, you want several voices? Uh, forgive recommendations there. I personally think it's a great idea. Um, and it I would suggest to board members. That way you give at least two. So I was absolutely, However, the more you know that you just have to keep it. So you don't have a forum on the school board, and then you have a school board E What would you say on the number of life? Like maybe nine? I'm not sure. On the number. I think that you should probably get get one or two advisory board members from each side or like, the four quadrants of the county. Or get one of them from the four projects of the county or and have some of them on there and then oh, whoever else You wanna make it up? But that's what I mean. I don't I don't know the number. Actually, why don't we allow you to do that stuff and come back to us on the next board meeting and give us the recommendation. Because ultimately you have to appoint, and then we have to go. Yes. Or now. Okay. Well, what? I would like a fellow board members. You'll let me know if you wanna be on the committee, and And if I have more than two, then we'll don't try to fairly. Which one of those? Thank you, Chairman. You should be on again. I really appreciate you and Mr Limits today. Um, so do we need to move this to an action item to be ableto take towards make a motion to create it, and then I'll come back. You want to create committee, and then the abortion could work with you in determining who those individuals are. Yeah, well, then I'd like to make a motion to add this to the action items that Harney County's school board proceed with developing this committee. But we just spent engineering, I would say at committee discussion a e. I'll amend that to what Jason said. Good. I'll second that right. Alright. Further discussion on here. Another chairman, folks side. And it was, uh, to be in it at all. Okay, That would be I'd, um Any neighbors here? No, no votes. Election carries every item deep. Correct cultivating. Thank you, Mr Choi. Now moving along Thio item. See the budget 2020 21 22. Budget development. Yes, Mr Chairman, today is a very informal discussion on this. We will not begin our budget planning and earnest until next. Multi forward will be presented a budget calendar when you Thanks, but because I know we've had a lot of discussion. A lot of that's been around salaries of our classified employees and all. I felt it was prudent for us to present to you last year's budget. So there's been no change is what you seem to have. This is exactly how it was presented on last in this, uh, Johnson to put that up on the screen if she wouldn't. Uh, just so you can see what we ask that you have a new board member with us that wasn't with us last year. And so you will see this as well. And I could kind of tell you a little bit with processes they law does outline or education must do a local budget request to the commissioners by May, and I may 15th is the date that were typically very early. And I believe the county appreciates that were early so we can make get work from nine. Well, also, Superintendent has to present this budget to the commissioners in a meeting. It's typically been a joint meeting. Last year it was not a joint meeting. I just went to the commissioners and presented it. Uh, it was online. I do that on the phone. Uh, are in a couple items down on the agenda, we are going to discuss a joint meeting and where we can present this and have unopened discussion. But, uh, just quickly go through what I'll talk about first, your current expenses in the next item on the agenda is is really more with capital. And I'm gonna have Mr Brooks shooting Mr Steve Matthews come in because he is our liaison for working on the county capital improvement, claiming putting our school facilities in the county. Eso I'm current expense. Last year, we really ask for four idols. One was increase the base a lot, and I'm gonna ask this to be killed come into the Oh, uh uh, to increase our base a lot that's covered charter school reductions. The county has been covering that each year or has started covering that now. So that is a good thing last year about 435,000 and probably will be a little higher this year because of Kobe. What was happening? Waas. We were not receiving additional funds for students that are in Harnett County, and so we were really getting double billed for students going to charter schools. When students choose, parents choose a charter option for their students per the local per pupil expenditure, which in Harnett counties just shy of $2000 unbelief that money then moves to the charter school with that student. Would you stay long with us every time a student want to charge? Well, we were really getting hit twice. One. We were not getting the initial from from the county to pay for that student, but then they would leave and we would still have to pay the per pupil. So we were doubling up on the per pupil expenditure for each student that moved. What we're doing now, this is basically just a pass through. Is they are creating us with the school, and then we're paying that money out charter school. So at least we're breaking even on uh, instead of going in the hole for each student left. And I think that's a much more fair way to do that. And again, a way that way. Don't get double hit each time student goes to a charter school, the second item eyes, and I believe that since begins in here on the charter school item that's now in the continuing budget. So we could not need to put that a budget again this year unless you wanted to laugh through the increased number. Okay. And that's what this is, I think is where with the difference between what were being funded at and then the number of students that have increased to chart. And I think this year is higher, especially because of hope and then as those students. If those students decided to come back in Harney County schools, we would not ask for that difference, obviously, because we wouldn't be passing the dollars on the second ISA Technology device refresh for $483,000. We've been fortunate we've been able to find some other funds to do that, but we're still not completely where we're at. I know Mr Bird does a good job of keeping up with that. So I anticipate potentially seeing some type of technology lining items like this, not that dollar amount, because we have been able, um, to various funds to do that. The third item, which is the big ticket item on here. In fact, I think it was Mr Draggers that asked me about this a while back, and I was probably about $800,000 off on the number. But it's the higher number than I realized until I just looked at it again. But that is the certified supplement increase and the classified staff salary increase. Now, one thing. And I may not have been off too much on this because this does include the $500 supplement that we've been giving, uh, to, uh, to classified employees. But this also includes increasing the certified supplement, which I didn't have. So we've been given the $500 bonus to classify. We've been attempting to increase our certified teachers supplement, and then this also includes the increase to get our classified staff up to market rate. And I hate put Mr McGill right on the spot, because again, it's a very informal, but I believe it was a little over a million and a half of the salary study. The fund, it everything else you see on there would be the $500 and, uh, increase the certified. So So now, like, run the math in my head. I wasn't too far off. Uh, about Mr Superintendent, how much of an increase is far a supplement goes. How much would increase with the in the local supplement? That's prepared right now. And this was probably a more final number on that. But right now, I think we're somewhere in the seven half 8% supplement range. All of our counties around us released 10%. So we're losing for every county that touches us right now. My goal has been since the day I walked in here to at least get us to 10% and, uh, that amount. Um, I believe this is close to that. A little more than 8 $900,000 million dollars frame on. That's where it's been the last couple of years. I believe it's probably higher than that now because of every time you increase that employer cost goes up. So our retirement percentage is gone up our health insurance, which that doesn't figure into the so, uh, retirement, those, uh, eso state keeps increasing that number as well. So what used to be, gosh, you know, 15 20% of the pain. Now, I don't know what percent? Almost 30%. So, uh, I think a lot of people don't realize that when you give someone to raise their is a higher cost than just giving a raise, because, uh, there are employer expenses again, Uh, add a position we have to pay. The employer costs the health insurance. We have to pay for the increase in, uh uh, retirement as well. So Social Security. So there there are increased cost for that, so that number will not be that number. But that gives you an idea where we were last year. Finally, just speak for this would be the increased our exceptional Children program. Expenses were capped by the state in the number and the amount of PC money we receive every year, but we still have to identify easy students. And so just because we're beyond that percentage, uh, it becomes a bit of an unfunded mandate. We have to raise the money for that. So in the last couple of years are easy. Program was running, uh, only use where deficit and were able to pay a but was running about $200,000. Mawr, uh, then the state camp on them way still in the same. Yes, sir. And, uh, have a free a Better get this amount in the situation, but it really takes the pressure off. Okay, Absolutely. So last year, in current expense, we requested just over $4 million. Um, I don't have our because I'm just giving you what we presented last year. I don't have our local appropriation number. Um, right in front of me from the budget letter from the county manager, But, uh, this does not come capital. So any equipment that you see attached to a school building, a school, all that this is just for an extent, a large portion of our current expensive people like any of this, um, what we asked for last year. Mr. Chairman, if if you were okay with And this is probably the first time we really look back at last year's budget. I'd be happy to hear anything you would like to see. Maybe that's not here. Well, I will tell you, we will have plenty of time in the upcoming work sessions to work on the budget. So don't feel like you've gotta tell everything today. I want everyone to go home, take time, uh, to digest this dual homework, thinking about some of those things you'd like to see the school district do that requires fiscal. Resource is and we can have those in there. But that was our expansion increased last year for current expenses. On was your daughter before we? You know, I know we've got plenty of time to do this, but before we we go with the county commissioners with that, I would like for us to be able on Lee. The increase in pay that we're asking about for the study that we had done is I know the study compared, like, a lot of district, but I would like a comparison to the salaries. Uh, Lee County, Harney County Kremlin count. Yeah, the counties that join us because that's what we lose our employees to. And even to Harney County. It said. The county side, not the school side of the county side, because that's who we lose our employees to is that, you know, way, hire them and train them. And then they leave us because of needing more money. And I understand that. I just I just like a And if Mr Gillian asked our consultant on that to see if they built those off a regional perspective state, they had those comparative number that's on the state wire. Uh, the computer, maybe eastward toward the coach. Their numbers would be different than the mountain just and I can tell you, and I think you would agree that when it comes in particular to one, are certified self. When he was talking about on the classified staff, I know I had a teacher assistant reach out that went to adjoining county on and E obviously because of pay. And so there's some areas we are getting, um, hit on in our classified pay. Now, a lot of that to some of our adjoining counties do have a larger sales tax, local sales tax base and property tax base, um, than Harney County. And that makes a huge difference when it comes to supplements and increasing things that they're paid, sometimes out of local money way simply do not have to taxpayers to pay with some other counties. Have what? 11 point I tried to push through to the county commissioners last year was the fact that and I was given this little structure by an employee that left the school system and went to work for the county in the same position, making almost three bucks an hour more money. Okay, well, that's okay. I don't blame him a bit, but we should be paying that employ the same thing that he could go to the county and get paid for every I agree. And if you're the county did do a salary study the first year, I actually think it was before I got here, But they did fund the salary study. We did the next year. It wasn't funded, you know, again, I say this all the time. When it comes to our local budget, we also received the conditions, have toe pay for things other than the public school, But that is one area. I really believe if we could get our employees of the market back, we have been trying to slowly chip away of some of these A za new people are hired putting them in the right place. But then we know someone has been with the school district for, say, 2025 years way don't wanna bring someone in brand new, even though they might have the experience somewhere else and put them above. An employee has been with us so long. So the issue we have with that is is just trying to be equitable the way we place our focus on the salary schedule again by getting everyone to market. What that basically would look like is, if you were below market pay, you would be bumped up where you're at on the salary schedule with market pay. And then, if you were some reason making more than market, you probably would not receive an increase. You sort of have to catch up Thio. And then, uh, e no, there will be some issues with that Get there. Uh, and like I said, we've been slowly trying as we were able to save some money to put some of those towards salads. Um, it's a It's a difficulty balance toe. Try to do that for everyone I got Okay. Okay. Anything else about Clement on this particular topic? In my only request is just go and think a little bit about this, Uh, the time we meet. Probably a work session for February. We'll have some updated numbers, Aziz. Well, on some of these, okay. Thanks, sir. Thank you. So I'm di is gonna be different, You know, I don't need will be facility needs, which will be the same document on, and the facility needs to document to, which is on the same pdf, you have assembly. So if you scroll just below my family to scroll up there were Yep. So you'll see category one, which our facilities on that maybe anything dealing with a school facility. You see school cities up there that could be renovated school and new school maintenance to a school facility. Uh, if you scroll down to see a category two for equipment, that's exactly like it is. That's equipment used in our schools are used by maintenance and custodial and then or bus drops from them. and then Category three or vehicles. And that's exactly vehicles, cars, trucks and usually school Busses and activity Busses as well. Oh, we'll go back up the facilities. One of the things that we have again trying to piece together, even though we haven't received in a lot that specifically for this. And I'm gonna ask Mr Steve Matthews to come in to hopefully he's list and you can step in here is, well, one of the things that we've been trying to piece together our upgrades to our auto door locks, which are the locks with the R F I. D badges that our staff have on security cameras, upgrading them to a nightie digital camera, which are amazing once they're installed, compared to an old security camera on then the school bus with the Viper radios, which was a request from law enforcement. And it's our understanding that makes, um, grants state level that will eventually be able to apply for so you may see that one fall off list, uh, this year, three auto door locks and the security cameras. Uh, I know in conversations with county manager, it appears that the county would really like Thio tend to help us out with those. So we will update that number. We have received state money on some of those cameras. So from state grants, So we will be able to update that number. The county, though, has started a capital improvement plan on where we can place our school facilities. And I wanted to ask Mr Matthews just given overview. He has been, uh, knee deep in all of that is done a wonderful job working on that. You will share with us a little bit about what the county would like to see from us so they could put our school facilities for probably first time ever the first time in a long time, Uh, to put the school needs into the capital improvement. Thank you. Uh, Trevor Jager between and my working with them, we we put together what they want us to do is try to prioritize the list. Help give them an idea of what years things will be coming to you for, especially the big ticket items like chillers and fours. And and, uh, the auto door locks security cameras. So we went through and work with them and trying to help them identify what we identify for them, kind of life span on that equipment and what shaded was in and help put a calendar for the next seven years and said, We need a We need the honestly trying to get these issues fixed during these years, or at least having money set aside because that was one of the questions I asked him if we had a Children. The life expectancy was come another moment. The money might be set aside, but it really didn't make any sense to replace that piece of equipment at that time. So that's that's kind of the way they're looking at it. Hope Toe. Have that money set aside instead of having to go with them to an emergency. We're having to go to them with an emergency like we did a year before last, When school started in the first week of school, the Children went out a little shop back because that's a tough time to replace two Children when school first starts. Now, the one thing that they did want us to do, they look at the projects, is funded and unfunded. So, Dr Fleming, we even took the, um presentation that you guys, and I guess the package that you have sent to them and we looked at some of the future needs, and I think they were trying toe before they could get those in the C I. P. They had to kind of identify where the money was coming from. So that's what we worked with them to do, and it just works a little different. We had a conversation that way. May need to look at how we change. Just present in our budget to them on certain years. Toe ask for those out. So So you know, anything specific? No, thank you, Mr Matthews. And he's correct. So where we've been hearing. So if, uh, Johnson fuel scroll down to the school facility needs left there on the screen, We've been putting these in tears. And they were Tier one through five. We do current projects, and here one through five, we would go away over 15 years, and then our tier five was sort of prioritized as the resource is became available. And they county really for funding reasons have to plug in schools so they know at what point they're gonna have to build, and I think the flexibility that I need to give them and as we redo the facility needs list, is we have, for example, two or four project for 10 to 15 years. The county only goes up to on the goes up to seven years. And so we may need a list that goes beyond seven years, because we do have to plan further out. But maybe are beyond seven would be our tier four we would make. Here's one through three within the seven year time, Frank. So where we've been using, I think, five years or so. So we would just way would just break out our tears a little differently on DWhite. I'd like Thio into Aziz. Well, is is talk a little bit about what we have on each tier, but also keeping in mind that we need to articulate this way again the county, uh, to put this into their capital improvement plan when they work on this fall. So what, Mr Matthews is, he took our list that we approve because, statutorily, we have to approve everything in Maddie. The county does their process in September. October. Uh, when there there's a bit of a delay, and that's actually for the next year for them. So, um, much as I wish, everything worked on the same schedule, it doesn't So what you approved in May for school facility needs lift for 2021 2022. It will really be a 2022 lists from the county because they're playing for the next year, and so that makes things a little squirrely. Honestly, hard toe, um, describe. But if we go through our schools facility, need the list? When we did this last year, we had two projects on the document that was the building of a new Irwin Elementary school. In addition to a new Northwest hard in elementary school. Those are still current project. But we have since added the Johnsonville new cafeteria project to that and a slight renovation with the gym when it comes to Windows and they see it will not be a full renovation originally planning, and that is phase one, which is roughly half of that $11.3 million so that will move to the current project list. The question is, we move forward and developing this is do we want Thio Movinto, Plan B with John Face to Johnson. I'm in plans and faces so much Canada Phase two of Johnsonville, which would be demolition off the old classroom building with a new two storm, uh, to sort of one or two. It is two story I knew two story on Johnsonville with some work to the drop off. You know, it's a mess out by the highway. It would probably require some highway renovations with higher a highway work as well, which is paid for by D o T. But it's gonna be a huge project on moving into that with the potential remaining funds we have. You turn Miami. There's not a turn lane there, a shoulder of the road there, which is now out of Code Dogg does require what they call on site storage of the cars where he used people line up on the road. No longer do that. Oh, we move forward with that with funds that we've had left over from Ben Haven and hopefully funds will have left over from Irwin, and additional funds from the bond remain. We believe that we are in a position to potentially move to face to as you move down through this list on it would take us all day to discuss it. But south hearted elementary school cafeteria renovations we had on there for 380,000. Uh, we did not do renovations at that level, but we did do some cafeteria renovations with our own staff and say they want, uh, but you will see a drop, uh, in there, and so it looks a lot better. Did it? We did all that in house, uh, way using outside way, dropped the work and took care of the lots and way. So that was again. I mean, kind of an in house with a little bit off. Name your health there, but waken mark that one off the list. Uh, one of the things for south corner. We will want to look at some point. A lot of people don't realize behind the newer building that you see by the road behind that you have a much older school. So as we go through time, I don't know. That's something. We need to spend a lot of time discussion, but we are gonna have to probably look at it south part of elementary school in some more serious renovations that would go beyond the scope that made it would, uh, another people in we discussed to relieve the overcrowding and heart of Central Middle School would be a softhearted or south Lillington or Lillington Middle School with around 1100 seats. Uh, the price out of there I could tell you will be higher than $50 million. Probably on that doesn't include land, but I know that's ah, priority for all of just beyond. That would be a new high school. We had a lot of conversation. Is that high school your middle school or does it go on existing land owned by the school district Highland campus Eso we put in here? I guess we could listen. Board decides we could keep it the same way South Harnett or Highland High School, $90 million. That crisis that doesn't include land, obviously which we already have a highland, but that $90 million is probably still a fair number for high school. All you have to do is go upto Wake County and you're seeing $1995 million high schools being built. Uh, new fuckwit Verena High School it looks like it's a mile long. I went and looked at it. I am amazed of what new high school looks like. It just, uh it doesn't matter how long you've been in this job. They are fortresses, and they are very expensive. Yeah, and I think a lot of it depends on available land that on that campus, they have a little more. Uh, they build a new apex high school. They have used that smaller lot. They really didn't build up again. It was I think it was a 90,000 plus 90 million $90 million plus high school. I'm still amazed that we're getting close to $100 million high school. Um uh and then we've talked about Highland Elementary School, the 300 seat with cafeteria expansion over Hills Elementary school with a 300 seat expansion. What? You have to remember it by adding on 300 Sikhs. I think of when Mr Morris was on the board and say this that it was true. You're not giving capacity. You're only keeping your future capacity. You're only putting kids that are outdoors and you're not expanding. That school is faras new students I do think the Johnsonville addition will help with Highland a little, but we're still gonna have mobile units. I'll, uh, for the foreseeable future as well is with over Hills Elementary School. I think the only thing that would, uh, help over hills is just a new school down on 87 corridor. Uh, wait. 24 25 24 way step we're doing. Think about 120 kids. That's right. Zero. There's two things you got to remember what Johnsonville is. You're gonna be able to move some of those Highland students or really made the schools. But in particular Highland, you'll be able to move some of the issue. You have a highland again. It just amazes because it sounds like it would be a Wake County. Issues is about every student goes to Highland Elementary. It's women by a mile, mile and a half radius of that school. And so when someone gets redistricted out of Highland was born earlier about it as well, I and so it's gonna be a tough one. But