Durham officials discuss gun violence
Durham Mayor Steve Schewel and Police Chief C.J. Davis discuss recent gun violence in the city.
We're really glad that you are here to carry this message to our community. I have some remarks and then I'll be followed by Chief Davis with some remarks. And then we're happy to take any questions that you might have. Uh, this past week we had another homicide, and again it was a teenager who lost his life not far from here, this time in a drive by shooting. This is a terrible event, a tragic event, and my heart goes out to the family and friends of this young person. I have two sons myself, and I can only imagine what this feels like for his family. This loss of life, this gun, violence and all gun violence is absolutely unacceptable. Enduring. I know that our residents want to know what we're doing to fight back against gun violence on. I want to talk about that today, along with Chief Davis. I also want you to know the Chief Davis and the police force she leads have my total and absolute confidence. Chief Davis is a remarkable leader, and she is deploying all of the policing tools at our command to stop this violence. Every time there is a gunshot wound here. The bull city. It doesn't just tear into the body of the wounded. It tears into their family into their neighborhood and into our entire community. We're one community, one body and the loss of life. Loss of a life, especially a young life, is a tragedy for all of us. We're not separate. We're not insulated. Every child is a child of Durham, and we must do everything in our power to assure that we never lose another one. We're about a very tough few months of gun violence in Durham. You know that and in this regard were part of the national trend. While some categories of crime or down during the pandemic nationally, we have seen a large increase in gun violence and shootings and homicides, and there is no doubt that the pandemic is playing a role in this. The coronavirus has caused isolation and economic dislocation on a mass scale and the worst effects that followed on our economically disadvantaged communities and communities of color. The virus has heightened the factors that lead to gun violence, unemployment, housing, instability, hunger, mental health and mental health problems and isolation. Instead of being educated in school building, Our teenagers air at home, often with their parents at work and sometimes out on the streets and under the influence of the streets. Durham Parks and Rec normally operates many on site programs for thousands of Children and teenagers, which are impossible during covert to operate. At that scale, these air pandemic realities in Durham and across the nation. In addition, across the nation, gun sales have surged in recent months. There are now 393 million guns in America, far more than the number of people who live in our country. As long as guns are available in these quantities, and as long as they're easily available to almost anyone who wants a gun, we're not going to be able to end gun violence in this country. And that is a hard truth, which everybody needs to hear. So we know that in regard to gun violence, Durham is suffering much like the rest of the country. But we also know that despite the factors that exist across our nation, the pandemic out of control, gun sales, drugs and gangs thes exists across the nation. We endure, um, have to do everything we can on a local level to fight gun violence here at home. It begins with smart strategic policing and under the leadership of Chief Davis, we have that. Let me describe some of that work. It begins by hiring the best, training them well and leading them well. I have often ridden with young Durham police officers on Saturday night, and I did so most recently, just before the pandemic hit. What I could tell you is that we have an outstanding police force from top to bottom. Durham's training is the envy of this state, far more rigorous and state requirements. I am so proud of the young recruits who graduate from each of our recruiting classes, and I have seen their work close up many times regularly. Chief Davis and her top deputies sit at the head of the table in what is called crime abatement. I have attended this and let me tell you what it is like in that room. Each district captain and other officers from the district come to the front of the room, described the commanding officers in specific detail the crimes that have been committed in the district during the past week. The trends they see, the suspects they have identified, the arrest they have made and the challenges they face. Things is all backed up by statistics and maps projected behind each captain, showing each violent incident revealing trends and clusters. And then the questions start from the top. Deputies, along with suggestions and connections, were made from district to district by other officers in the room. It is an impressive use of information and expertise, and it works to inform strategy and tactics and to support our patrol officers in the field. Now, with the support of the City Council, the department is adding another information tool to help out officers on patrol in real time. This is called Street Smart, and it directs riel time data about criminal activity to our officers in the field. Currently, our patrol officers may have information from Intel meetings that is a week old. This could cause the loss of crucial investigative days, or they can arrive on a crime scene without critical situational information. Street Smart is designed to provide situational awareness directly to officers on the scene, rather than having to hear verbally from commanders or from meeting notes we believe this will be an important neutral for our officers. All of this work is in the service of an overriding strategy that is shared not only by Chief Davis but by Sheriff Birkhead in his department as well. This strategy is based on the knowledge that an overwhelming majority of the gun violence enduro is driven by a relatively few very violent individuals, people who are willing to shoot to hurt or kill others and who do so repeatedly, often inviting retaliation. The strategy of our police department and our sheriff's departments do everything we can to identify these people who are repeatedly committing violent crimes, to arrest them and to get them off the streets. To further that aim, our Police Department has made a recent significant change in its investigative practices. Chief Davis and her team have now centralized the investigation of incidences of gun violence into a single focused investigative unit. This investigation has historically been Donald District by district basis, but now this work is centralized. In 2019, a similar robbery task force was established, which had a significant effect in reducing our robberies. Enduro the department is using that same approach now with gun violence investigations. The department is also closely monitoring social media to detect gang activity, including retaliation. Gangs are using social media just like the rest of the star, and monitoring that activity is a critical way to reduce gun violence during the department is increasing the visibility of police patrols in areas where we're experiencing an increase in gun violence. When a violent hot spot arises, you will see more police patrols there on a regular basis. The department is closely cooperating with Sheriff's Department as well on gun violence cases. The chief and the sheriff for strong partners in close communication In that communication echoes down the department ranks. We have had several important arrest this year, which have involved police and sheriff's department cooperation and cooperation with regional anti gang task forces. As once these arrests are made of people committing gun violence, it is important that they be held in jail until their trial. To that end, our police department is working with the district attorney's office to make sure that the cases against these violent offenders are solid and that the district attorney has the evidence she needs to try and convict them to try and convict them, and that the Magistrates have the understanding that these repeat violent offenders need to have a bond set that will keep them off the streets. I command the DA's office for their recent stance on keeping the accused murderer of Zion person in jail without bail, a man with a very violent history. And while I'm at it, I do want to commend Virginia Bridges on a absolutely great, super informative story that I think tells a really powerful, powerful story to all of us. I will tell you that the cash bail system is a terrible impediment to keeping violent offenders in jail until their trials on later in my mark, remarks are going to address that. In addition to focusing on taking the most violent offenders off the streets, the Police Department is working hard to meet the requirement, the requests of neighborhoods and communities and community partners. Recently, the top leadership of North Carolina Central University came to the City Council with requests for help. Our interim city manager want Page chief Davis and their staffs met right away with the NCCU staff were acting on the's meetings. The top request by NCCU was an extension of the territory around their campus, which could be patrolled by their own campus police. They asked to be given the same extra territorial jurisdiction that for those patrols as Duke University. In fact, as our staff discovered, an agreement for this jurisdiction was made between the city and NCCU way back in 2000 and four, and within the next month, this extra territorial jurisdiction agreement will be updated and confirmed NCCU police officers who will be able to control the area around the campus. Justus Duke University officers. At the same time, Chief Davis and the NCCU police chief have met and have agreed on more patrols around their campuses. The CCU administration has also requested measures on the streets around the campus to slow down traffic and cut down the likely to the speeding drive a speeding drive by shooter. The major roads around NCCU are state owned roads, Austin Avenue and fake Apple Street, and so our staff is engaged in North Carolina department transportation to work on these traffic measures. Senator Mike Woodard has been involved in that as well, and we should see good progress on this in the near future, I could go on, but you get the idea. Our police force is actively engaged every single day and finding the perpetrators of violence, getting them off our streets. And they have my full support and the support of our community in this. So now I wanna change years a moment because here's what we know. This is very important policing itself, even excellent police in which we have is not nearly enough. The police cannot do this alone besides policing. What else are we doing? What else do we need? One important strategy is violence. Interrupters. You all are aware of the county funded violence interrupters who operate out of the health department called bold City United. The folks in both city United are people who are formally just involved. Justice involved themselves, many of them who understand gangs and drugs and violence that they cause both. City United operates to Durham neighborhoods south side of McDougall Terrace. I have been out walking the streets with both city united staff many times, and I've been to many of their events over the past few years, and I believe that the work of violence interrupters is very imp and I embraced their motto. Peace is a lifestyle. Their aim is to stop gun violence and especially retaliation by going directly to the people who are ready to retaliate and talking to them about other ways. Very recently, the City Council heard a report from the Bull City United Staff, and the council is supportive of extending their activity to get yet another Durham neighborhood. While this is traditionally a county government function of public health function, level of gun violence we have experienced in the past few months calls for us in city governor to find an extension of the violence interrupter program, and I fully expect that we will do so. In addition to violence interrupters. There are other ways in which our community needs to respond to keep ourselves safe from gun violence. Durham County government, not city government, is responsible for mental health services and social services. Emergency mental health response on the county has many excellent services in this regard. We need to continue to expand this kind of mobile response to mental health emergencies, to expand our mental health services in general, to expand to expand our drug education and treatment services, and we need to continue in the city to expand during parks and rec services to Youth Way. Need our private employers to step up to hire our youth through our summer youth internship program. When people want to know what they do in business to keep our communities safe, you can hire a young person next time toe work as an intern through our through our Youthworks internship program. And now I want to turn to the subject of our state legislature. I have said this to the members of the press many times before, and I will say it again. What our Legislature does is key to our ability to fight violent crime here in Durham. E. Hope you will take this seriously as you report about gun violence. Reporting about gun violence means reporting of what the Legislature is doing are failing. Our Legislature is slashed funding for mental health services over the past decade, a swell as for drug treatment and that causes violent. Our Legislature has refused to expand Medicaid despite the governor's repeated requests that they do so. This failure has put many families into poverty as they seek to pay for critically necessary medical treatment has put mental health services out of reach of many, and that has increased violent crime Our Legislature must end. Excuse me. Must end the system of cash bail if they're serious about fighting violent crime. Cash bail fails us in two ways. First, for low level offenders, cash bail means that we're keeping people in jail for minor offenses who absolutely should not be there. Second and Justice Cash bail means that violent offenders who can make Babe are back out on the streets as soon as they bail out, even when the magistrate sits on high bail for someone who the police arrest for shooting someone else, that person is often bailed out by cronies. They're involved with drug deals way. See that a lot high bales don't mean much when large amounts of drug money are involved. If we end the cash bail system, we can assess the danger that each person arrested poses to our community. We can let people remain in the community who are arrested for small offenses, and we need to do that rather than keeping him in jail. And we could hold the truly violent individuals or a true risk to our community. We need our Legislature to end the cash bail system to defy the bail bondsman who are lobbying to prop it up and to do so in this coming legislative session. And our Legislature needs to an enact meaningful common sense gun legislation. This includes passing the red flag legislation introduced by Durham representative Marcia Morey, which would keep guns out of the hands of people. Should not have. This would allow law enforcement and family members to petition the court for a civil order to temporarily remove firearms from and prevent the purchase of additional firearms by individuals who are at risk of harming themselves or others. They do this now in 19 states, and we needed in North Carolina prevent gun violence. We need background checks on every single gun set so that guns are not falling into the hands of mentally unstable people. Are convicted violent felons. We need to end state preemption of local gun safety laws. Right now, we end ERM are not allowed to ban guns from our parks or trails were required to allow them in restaurants and bars. Guns and bars don't mix. We've got to have the local authorities to end these practices to keep our communities safe. We need that from our legislature if Durham is the most effectively fight gun violence. So there are four ways in which we must fight gun violence. Endurance One is smart, effective policing, and I believe very deeply that we have. Second is providing other community resource is violence interrupters youth programming after school and during the summers, mental health services, drug treatment and education, non police mobile responses to crises that will keep our communities safe. Third is legislative action, especially on cash bail in common sense gun laws. And fourth is attacking the root causes of violence. If a person has a good job at a good wage, affordable health care, a good school for their child to go to in a safe, warm, affordable home where they can lay their head every night, they're not going to be committing gun violence. They're going. They're not going to be dealing drugs or joining gangs or shooting anyone. We've got to attack the root causes of violence. Some of that work is the work of city government, like our affordable housing work, which is taking off now across our city. Even before affordable housing bond kicks in. Supporting our schools and health care system is the work of state, federal, county government and of our entire community. But we've got to attack root causes or we won't end gun violence in our city or our society. I will end these remarks with a comment about just one way in which the city is attacking root causes work in which we have had remarkable results and that is the work of the Deer Program, Durham X Function and Restoration Program. Dear was born out of the work of the City of Durham Innovation Team. The city invested 250,000 to create the deer program to provide free help for X functions and driver's license restoration. Prior to deer, there were over 11,000 people in Durham mainly are black and Latino neighbors with a suspended driver's license due to unpaid traffic tickets that are on the average 16 years old. 11,000 people in Durham with suspended driver's license due to unpaid traffic tickets that are, on average, 16 years old. This is not and cannot be justice dear attack. This problem and a results over 50,000 old traffic charges dating back to the 19 eighties but still leading to driver's license suspensions have been dismissed. 50,000 charges dismissed for 35,000 people in the cities and city staff has now worked with our judges and D A to wave $2.7 million in traffic fines and fees for 11,000 of our residents. This is transformative for the lives of these residents. People with licenses means people who can drive to work who could get a job they couldn't get before. Who can improve their lives and don't need gangs and drugs and guns to do it. In addition, last year, Dear Help, 900 Durham residents get their records expunged for free people living for years with charges on their records so they could have a chance to go back to work. This is just one example of how we attack root causes, and there are many, many others. But we need to do all of these things to prevent gun violence. None of them will do it alone. Superb, effective policing. Other community interventions like violence, interruption, mental health services and drug treatment, state legislative reforms on cash bail and sensible gun laws in attacking root causes. We have to do all of those things to fight gun violence. And if we do that well, way could make a real difference in gun violence in Durham. On, I'm determined that we will do that. So thank you so much. And now I'm going to introduce our wonderful chief Chief, C. J. Davis, for her remarks. And then we will take your questions. Yeah. Good morning. Thank you, Mary. Shool Mayor shul has covered much of what I have prepared to say so I will not be redundant. But I will take this opportunity to first thank you all for being here and thank my staff here in the Durham Police Department for the work that they do every day to try to curtail some of the increase violence that we've seen this year. In recent months, the Durham Police Department has responded to an unusual increase in gun related crimes where community members have been directly or indirectly impacted. We absolutely empathize with our community members for those individuals who, on a day to day basis, have thio avoid the devastating effects of gun violence. However, what I would like to do right now is to take a moment to just highlight the collective work that during Police Department and the community has taken together as we fight Thio, end the senseless violence in our city. The Durham Police Department has centralized are Violent Crimes Task Force. The mayor mentioned that earlier, and this has been a very, very successful initiative for the department as we have moved to have investigators to work closer together as opposed to being assigned out in various district's, they're working closer together to connect the various crimes that are being committed in the city and also connect. The individuals who are who are participating in these incidents are violent crimes. Task Force has increased their information sharing not just with those individuals inside the department, but with our community, our state and our federal partners as well. Our investigators have been able to file charges for weapons related offenses and two recent attend Excuse me recent shooting cases. Four of these shooting cases were cleared by arrest and the incidents were committed by two separate juveniles. In these most recent incidents, it cannot go unnoticed as's well that the majority of these offenders are juveniles that we have spoken about not just today, but in recent months, Often way have victims who are uncooperative as well, which prohibits the file. Uh, the filing of the most serious charges in relations to these particular fences are Homicide Unit has also charged and cleared by arrest nine of their cases that involved gunfire. And they have one case with charges pending currently Aziz. Well, I want to also take a minute and highlight the work of our local leaders. Are ministers and clergy in our city have recently taken upon themselves to coordinate, collaborate and galvanize our community members to speak up and to work with the Police Department and identifying individuals that are committing crimes in their community. Specifically shootings, as the mayor has already mentioned, many of the shootings that occur in the city are being committed by a small number of individuals. The department is being more laser focused and identifying those individuals and, as I've said, have made significant arrest. I think one of the prevailing factors and what we're talking about today remains that we can't do this by ourselves. We're just one cog in the wheel, and we are at the end of the process when it comes to the criminal justice system. There is much work to be done at the grassroots level to deal with the root causes of crime, and I know that the mayor and our council are having long deliberations about how we best address those social issues that plague our community. We would love to see the police Department be put out of business, but we are very busy these days. We would love to see our citizens live in environments that art stricken by gunfire at night and where a young people aren't having. Thio participated exercises of jumping in bathtubs and ducking whenever they hear gunfire in their communities. No one should live under those circumstances. So I say thank you to our community members who have stood up who have said enough is enough and who are working with during Police Department who have provided information to the police department where we have been successful and identified individuals who are committing some of these crimes. Most of the uptick that we saw this year in 2020 occurred around the months of March in April, comparatively to the last year. That's that's what we saw the highest spikes in violent crime. However, over the last several weeks we have seen some of that crime sort of plateau, and we've seen percentages that have decreased. So we're moving in the right direction of some of the work that we've done internally has been very beneficial, and we've seen some positive outcomes. But every time we see another individual, particularly a young person, a victim of a violent crime, whether they were involved in gang activity or not, that is still someone's child who has fallen a to the hands of gun violence. So, a to this time I would like Thio join the mayor and answering any questions that you all may have of us. So we're asking when you ask your plus e State the name of the media outlet with with, uh, please ask your question while waiting here. Okay? Yes, I'm Sarah Riveros WRL, and it seems that a lot recently have been drive by shootings. I was wondering if that is something the department is noticing as well, and it's so why you believe that's happening and what challenges that may create birth. Well, thank you, Sarah. Yes. While I'll repeat the question. The question was that some of the recent shootings have three characterization has been drive by shootings and what challenges the Police Department faces. As we deal with that, when you think of a drive by shooting, you think of individuals in a vehicle that quickly go through a community and shoot at a particular person or structure, and then they move on quickly. By the time the police department is called and respond to the scene challenges, being able to get the information that we need off the description of the vehicle, the individuals that were in the in the vehicle, a swell and what association that they may have with the victim, if any at all, or whether or not this is gang related, so many of our drive by shootings have been gang related. We have been very open about having that discussion, and that's where we've also been successful and getting information from our community members so that we can identify not just individuals but groups of individuals that are beefing or having conflict with each other around the city. And it does present a challenge, so descriptions are important. The utilization of local video footage, um, businesses and other video systems that have been very helpful to us and to be able to identify what vehicle it waas and whether not that vehicle was actually involved in some of the crime in the area as well. Hope I answered that for you, Sarah. Mhm Yes, Virginia 19 2004 Documents outline Concerns figure. Get fortunate. We have people here. Yeah, this year. What role? Remember of this game playing in a current Virginia with the News and Observer has asked about two specific eight trey Crips and a block gang groups that have been identified as operators in the City of Durham. Challenge with our various groups are that when when arrests are made, sometimes than other individuals actually step in and take the place of those actors or leaders in these different groups, we still see individuals that still encounter individuals that are involved in these groups. Um, they continuously recruit, they continuously have beasts and not just those groups. But other groups in the city have bloods have conflict in our city as well. It's not just relegated in those areas. Some of them may live in those areas, but they actually have encounters and other parts of the city as well. That challenge, uh, you know, last year was one that we faced and tried to identify. Our key players made several arrests. Some of those individuals were actually charged federally where we have federal cases. However, those gangs existed, you know, prior to 1918, 17. And what we want to do and what the mayor has alluded to a swell is to put systems in place that work for ensuring that our young people have other outlets. Besides being involved in gang activity and educating our young people, it can't be just the police department. The work is too great for us to be able to handle on our own by just arresting individuals. Can't arrest crime away. I hope I helped answer that. Virginia. Yes, sir. I'm Charlie Night Street Journal. E. Yeah. I'm crying in public. I'm not here. Yeah. No, that all that today in general, wondering E. Yeah. So we have strategies from just based on data and what works and what has worked historically for us. Um, if you remember at one time it was our McDougall terrorists community that had more shootings than some of our other communities. Um, some of the programs that we've implemented as a department, we believe, have, uh, direct impact on the reduction of crime in those areas, along with some of the other remedies that the mayor has mentioned with violence interrupters being assigned to that particular community. So it has to be a collaborative effort. Our resource is our but, you know, they're limited to be, uh, Frank. Our officers respond to calls from one call to the next, and we're more of a reaction to calls for service as it relates to shootings. And what we want to do is to be more proactive and provide the level of visibility that discourages that type of activity throughout our city. A t this particular time, officers or sort of stretched, they're all over the place. We have covert 19. We've had protests, so we haven't been able to assign officers in communities where they could just have friendly soft encounters with our community members to try to use that tactic as a deterrent as well. I'm gonna be honest. People are less likely to commit a crime in the presence of a police officer. That's a fact. Yes, sir. Today morning, be there. Walk away. And the officers were all right? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's important that you understand the operation. We sit in our nestled right here in our community, but our officers were dispatched to calls all through this particular district. So there isn't one officer that sitting or in this building watching a particular community. We would love to have a more presence and visibility on. And to be able to explain that, uh, if there were a Z I mentioned before, there may be, you know, less opportunities for individuals. Thio commit crime. Our responses quicker because we are here in in this. In this community, however, our officers are constantly dispatched to many other calls. And when opportunity arises, it's when crimes occur. And most of the time, the opportunity. It's not when the officer is sitting there in the community waiting for it to happen. Hopefully that answers your question. Thank you. Um, Chief Davis, that's a crystal price with CVS 17. You said that your resource is air stretched thin. Um, do you need more officers? If so, how many And what other resource is do you need? So we constantly evaluate what we have and how we can use the officers that we have and prioritize their work. Our priorities right now are is violent crime. Unfortunately, sometimes we have other responsibilities that air tossed upon us Thio address like protests, more protests than what we have been accustomed. Thio. And even though our officers have not been out front and in the face of protesters, they are working and on duty monitoring the protests in the event that we have, um, you know, a protest that turns violent. So, uh, when officers a call from these various responsibilities it iss stress on our resource is it pulls them from the work that they typically would do so we're constantly evaluating How much longer will we have to address the various First Amendment kinds of situations on? We'll be working with our City Council on what that looks like. Their studies being done right now on costs for service for the Durham Police Department so that we can evaluate who should best respond to certain types of calls, whether it's mental illness, whether it's homelessness, and take some of those responsibilities off of the Police Department. I got caught in a situation yesterday where I was on the freeway, where seven of my officers were working for more than two hours on one accident and as I passed by them, caught in the traffic with the rest of the citizens. I spoke to them, but that's just that's just a classic example of how our workload is, Um is thrust upon us, and we handle those catastrophic kind of situations where something else is going on over here while we have the eight officers out on the freeway. So way will be working really closely with our council and the results of the study that's being done on evaluating calls for service and not just looking at the numbers of calls. But what does that one call Intel? Does it entail seven officers being out of service for two hours? And that's not an anomaly that happens quite frequently. Sarah Not be back with you. Virginia, speaking earlier today with a spokesperson for the job Fraternal order of on one thing united that there are a lot of right now, perhaps a sense that it fulfilled because they part due to the find it. Can you talk about how many you have, a hard to fill them and how that is impact Police Department. Thank you, Sarah. That's a good question. And actually, I think there's I'm sorry. Um, Sara's question was about the fact that we have a certain amount of operational vacancies and just to define an operational vacancy, it means that I could have 20 officers that or 20 recruits and training right now, the best 20 positions where they are not operating. They are not operating as police officers because they're in training. So our practice is to try to ensure that we keep our department fully staffed so that we don't have as many operate. We can still operate even with those officers in training, so the rest of the question really had to deal with the climate and recruiting efforts. I think there's a confluence of issues with this situation. You have a pandemic, a national pandemic, and you also have a climate of racial uh, equity issues and tension around the country and just paying attention to the applications that come to our department. We still continue to receive applications. However, recruits have to make decisions about? Is this a good time to move my family? Is this a good time to bring my kids from 11 climate or one school, uh, to another working environment? And I think decisions are being made about moves and the pandemic, and also whether or not this is the career field that that's appropriate from On the other hand, we have seen, uh, individuals who are more energized about being a part of this work has been a part of the solution. So we continue to have recruits in our classes. Are recruiting efforts have been restricted to some degree because we have not been traveling as much and have not been in the faces of individuals. Have tried thio use more digital types of recruiting mechanisms as well, but we will continue to aggressively recruit. But I do believe that the various, um um environmental kind of, you know, issues that we're dealing with has had an impact not just on us, but also on other agencies around the country as well. Thank you. You have a question for general, right? The impact on member city back there are many crying you want. You know, I would need to really look at more data. You know, anecdotally, I know of cases where individuals have committed serious crimes and return to the streets, and they return and commit more serious crimes. And that is not a hypothesis. That is actual reality. And those were the individuals that we're focusing on those individuals that were working really closely with our d a. Who I I commend for assigning a gang 80 a thio our unit so that our gang unit can work closer with those individuals with a particular individual to help develop cases against our most serious offenders. And that has happened recently. Thank you. So we're running out of time. We're gonna take two more questions. So you would go ahead and answer your question. And you have a question for mayor. Sure he is here. Mm. Well, e love you choose. Yeah, I planning there. So if you're hurt, Okay. Have you heard Get down? Yes, a limited number. Yeah. Where? That's what we're thinking. Well, you know, we operate on immediate solutions every day. Um, you know, there's there's really no playbook for us right now because we've never had a coronavirus. We've never had you know, some of the obstacles that we're facing right now with these upticks that didn't go down upticks that have stayed up, you know, not just for us, but around the country. And everyone is really working daily to try to identify the areas that we need our officers most. How do we increase the time that they work without, uh, putting undue stress on them? Because that in itself is another element of the work that we do to make sure that our officers can do this work and do it in a way that, you know, um supports Officer Wellness. So we're daily changing the game, depending on the work that needs to be done and the community one day, it could be bentwood the next day, it could be, you know, over off Roxborough somewhere. So the work that we're doing in the long term solution really is to look at, you know, how do we go into 2022 with some additional types of initiatives and plans that address some of the social issues in our community so that there will be some impact on crime from a different angle, as opposed to a reactive approach from the police depart. I would love to not have to ask for more officers. But as demand continues, that Z all we know sometimes thank you all so much for being here today. And I will say that again. I commend my staff for the work and and how they stretch themselves during this particular unease. E time. It's been very complicated, very complex in the community. We've heard the outcry from our community not just about gun violence, but about a lot of other sort of nuances that have, um, appear racing in the streets. You know, people tryingto find ways. Thio have, um, fun in the streets, but sometimes in dangerous ways. And we're trying to address those emerging issues as well. Mayor, did you have anything else you wanted to add? Thank you all So much for being here and stay dry. Thank you all very much. Appreciate you being here.