Name: House debates limiting governor's emergency powers
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Description: The House debates a bill that would undercut a governor's power during an emergency like the coronavirus pandemic.

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members of House will come to order. Chair will begin with an announcement of the chair's been approached with an inquiry. Own changing some votes on House Bill 78 of cheese be own Senate bill 7 82 If members would like to do that, would you submit your name up here to the clerk way will read off the list. And then we will send that over to the second so they will correct the voting. Okay, What purpose is to General Rice Speaker? What? Bealls. That's what it said. It's Ah, Senate bill 7 82 It dealt with Mecklenburg County judicial districts. Uh, it passed by a wide wide majority. All right, Senate bill 105 The clerk will read. It is Jackson and Davis and Bread and see the big 105 a boat of entitling that terrified expiration of the state emergency and exercise certain powers under state of emergency and to clarify abatement of statewide imminent has just in the no climate. The gentleman from Caldwell representative Hall is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Members. We had a good debate on this bill last night, so I won't spend a great deal of time if you're speaking today. But I'll just remind you that this meal would clarify the Emergency Management Act. Require the governor to get Council of State approval prior to taking any action under the act. Since our debate last night, I've had some time to take a look at the governor's latest order from yesterday. That issue that came out as we took our break yesterday around three o'clock. And it appears that the order, of course, requires folks cross our state to wear face mask. And it appears that law enforcement can enforce the order against individuals. But on Lee against businesses, as we all know, because we've heard from business owners across our state over the course of the last few months, businesses are under a great deal of stress already, and the newest provisions in the order no doubt puts another burden on them. They have to now police facemask while for our folks or pay training their been their business. There's also the course, the potential constitutional problem with a criminal statute that applies to everybody, but only one group of people can be prosecuted for it. Business owners and another can the rest of those air who are patron ing that business? We've heard law enforcement, some law enforcement come out already in the last not even 24 hours and say that they won't even try to enforce this provisioning the your because they don't think that it's enforceable. And we've seen and heard from many people across our state who say they're not gonna follow it either. And they say that they don't understand why the governor can protest with thousands of people without a mask and then tell everybody else in the state that they have to wear a mask. The process here on these orders is breaking down. And yet, with all of the criticisms that I just gave you of that order, I understand why some people might disagree with me. And I understand. I know that a lot of people in ST agree with the government. They think that that was a good idea. Of course, many don't think that it was a good idea, but that's the point of this bill in an emergency situation like a pandemic, it's important that the government have credibility so that folks will follow the instructions of the government and a vote of the Council of State and Elected folks who are elected statewide would ensure credibility to the facts across the state. They would understand that it's not merely the decision of one person. It's not the total power of one individual to make the decisions for an entire state, but a body of elected officials who get toe have input on these orders. I would submit to you that if this order had Council of State approval, you wouldn't see as much of the uproars you've seen. You would see much more buy in from people across our state when they're asked to do things to help in this pandemic. And ultimately, that's what this bill would do again. As I said last night and in closing, keep in mind that governors change. We may have a new governor in January. We may not, but who knows? As I said last night, North Carolina, it's hard to predict, and so if you're predisposition is to vote against this bill because you agree with what the current governors doing, just keep in mind that things can change in just a few months, and if Danforth's were sitting there as governor, would you want the Council of State to give that input? I can tell you I would. Is representative Dixon Rose last night and said he'll support it then and I will, too. I would support this building because these are huge, huge decisions for our state. We're shutting businesses down. It's a serious problem. There's no doubt about it. But a serious problem requires the wisdom of more than just one person. And in a constitutional republic, it requires more than one person who's been elected by those folks to look at these decisions and decide what we ought to do. I will support the bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from pit representative Jones rise to debate the bill? The gentleman has the four to debate the bill. The statewide news cycle was nearly breathless in its coverage of Governor Cooper's facemask mandate. Exceptions and enforceability were understandable questions citizens had that were addressed during the governor's press availability. Optimistic rumblings had been heard earlier this month of a progression towards face three, or at least a mooted face 2.5, Considering growing public appetite for regaining a sense of normalcy. That hope was understandable and logical. After over three months of patient compliance with state home orders, mandated business closures and job for ways and losses, North Carolinians should be commended for maintaining a relatively positive attitude during this public health crisis. Lost in the anticipation of a facemask mandate in recent days, however, has been a more fundamental question, one which requires less attention on the moment in MAWR on our recollection of how our response to cope in 19 has developed statewide over three months later, why are we not in a position to reopen North Carolina? Kobe, 19 does not respect lines on a map. If this is the same virus that has afflicted other states, Stage would have been able to progress more rapidly towards a state of normalcy. We should not being lagging so significantly behind them. Statewide directors paint a dire picture for the general populace. However, they do not consider regional variations in viral contraction rates, age risks or co morbidity status. All that said, let's run a thought experiment. Suppose Governor Cooper and North Carolina DHHS secretary Mandy Cohen or correct suppose we are in a worse position than other states suppose our rate of viral contraction is so dangerous that we may yet be ever run with hospitalizations and fatalities in all regions of North Carolina through all demographics. And that further reopening of the state is risky business for bolstering contraction. That leaves another uncomfortable question. Who was to blame? It isn't every day North Carolinians who have done everything authorities have asked them to do. They have maintained social distance. They have worn face mass and before and after federal guidance was offered. They have been compassionate towards their neighbors. They have set aside for what they understood to be a temporary period religious, economic and social prerogatives they had previously enjoyed without interruption or scrutiny. They have lost businesses, jobs and psychological well being to maintain solid area with others and combating Kobe, 19 spread. It isn't the hospital systems they have offered to take leadership. In testing Potential Cove in 19 patients, they have sought ways to integrate their considerable frontline knowledge and expertise and confidential HIPPA compliant data collection of management within CD HHS in order to surveil patient cases and tied them to geographic regions. Most importantly, they sounded the initial alarm at the beginning of the pandemic and offer the key rationale for caution. A statewide shutdown meant we could flatten the curve and minimize the risk of our hospital capacity being overwhelmed. It isn't the Legislature. We've bananas unanimously appropriated millions upon millions of dollars from both state coffers and federal aid towards researching in combating the spread of coded 19 supporting state departments and county municipal infrastructure and lessening day to day impacts from this virus for everyday North Carolinians. Governor Cooper and NCD HHS Secretary Mandy Cohen have relentlessly, relentlessly spoken of testing, tracking and tracing Cove in 19 cases. They've talked about game for months in the dead of night. Last Friday, NCD HHS finally announced that they've come to agreement with vendors to begin statewide testing, tracking and tracing efforts. No plan was offered. Mind you, just that agreements had been executed to begin that vital work for emphasis. We authorize that work. Months ago, we appropriated money for that work. Months ago every day, North Carolinians bought time for that work to be done months ago, and that goes on to this very day. For the sake of this work being done freedoms. We have enjoyed businesses we have patronised and jobs we felt secure in have been sacrificed. I come to one conclusion, and it gives me no pleasure to say this. Governor Cooper and NCD HHS Secretary Mandy Cohen have wasted precious time time bought by everyday North Carolinians in the prayer that the state could cooperate at all levels with municipalities, counties, neighboring states and federal authorities to combat Cove in 19. The response has been neither timely nor adequate to the needs of the state. Coordinated testing, tracking and tracing have yet to become begun vendor procurement aside, despite the recognised need for those things to begin months ago. That's especially true for those or who were in congregate care facilities who were unable to receive their Weld ones. His visitors, even if his loved ones live in just a different wing of the same facility. The health care sectors overtures to to assist North Carolina DHHS and pulling data collection and D identifying cove in 19 patients information have been rejected time and time again. Every proposal our major hospital systems have offered towards a constructive and collaborative approach towards data sharing, whether wet by NCD, HHS or our hospital systems has been dismissed. Most of all, everyday North Carolinians are one of confused jobless and relying on state agencies fraying at the seams to even provide unemployment benefits. Never mind direct a pandemic response. The unfortunate reality is this. We're experiencing abject systems failure before our very eyes. The fact that Governor Cooper apparently relies exclusively on NCD HHS Secretary Mandy Cohen for how to reopen North Carolina should leave us all with many questions about their response to this pandemic from the outset and should suggest the need for additional input from relevant subject matter experts to get North Carolina back on track. Thank you for the discussion. Further debate, if not question for the House passage of Sina Bill, one of five on its third reading, Those in favour will vote. Aye, Those opposed will vote no cork weapon of a all tree. I, I mean, represent McGrady. Wish about 64 have only affirmative. 49 of the negative quirk. A lot machine record about 64 in the affirmative. 49. The negative sentiment 25 has passed its third reading bills ordered, engrossed and return to the Senate House bill 806 The corporation representative same restricted House bill 86. A bill to be entitled H l. A. Condo pool opening. Limited immunity. Jim Civil. No climbing. Korca, please re read the title. Hospital 806 Conference report building the entire open exercise and fitness for soldiers. Johnson No. Klein in there. Bill be temporarily displaced. Represent president, please. Oppressive dies.

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