Cooper cites growing virus caseload, urges more vigilance by NC residents
Gov. Roy Cooper and state health and safety officials provide an Oct. 15, 2020, update on the coronavirus outbreak in North Carolina and the state's response to it.
cases. 2532 new cases reported since yesterday, which is our highest one day record, 1140 people in the hospital. And, sadly, 3870 for people who have died. We pray for those we've lost and everyone who's mourning a loved one right now. Today we'll have an update on the key metrics from Dr Mandy Cohen, our secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. Recently, like much of the country and other parts of the world, we've seen higher numbers. It will be important to continue to watch these numbers over a 14 day period, but one thing is clear. North Carolinians must be even mawr vigilant in our effort to prevent the spread of this virus. Complacency will cost lives and hurt our economy. And it's up to every one of us to continue wearing masks, social distancing and using good judgment. Before Dr Cohen walks through the numbers, I want to share an important update of our efforts to support North Carolinians during this pandemic. We know that covered 19 has left many people facing serious financial hardships. Too often, families faced the impossible choices between paying rent in, keeping the lights on or buying food and other necessities. To alleviate some of the stress, my administration created the $117 million N. C Hope program to support people facing difficulty paying for rent and utilities. Hope stands for Housing Opportunity and Prevention of Evictions program. Starting today, renters in need of this assistance can go to to 11 dot or GTA slash hope to be screened for eligibility and complete the application process people have already started. You can also dial 211 Monday through Friday from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. payments air made directly to the landlords and the utility companies on behalf of people in need. The North Carolina Office of Recovery and Resilience in Core, which is under our Department of Public Safety, stood up this program while continuing their diligent work on hurricane recovery. I'm grateful for all their hard work and for the efforts of the United Way of North Carolina in making sure the Hope Program can effectively and efficiently support North Carolinians during a difficult time of need. Ah, program. We've already started the mortgage utility and rent relief program or murder for small business owners continues to accept applications. If you are a small business owner hurt by the pandemic, this program could help, and I encourage small business owners to visit the North Carolina Department of Commerce website Toe Learn mawr. Finally, I want to remind North Carolinians that today we have two important deadlines. The first is that the $335 co vid relief payment for parents. If you claimed a child deduction on your income taxes last year, this payment will come to you automatically. But if you didn't file an income tax return, you must apply to receive this one time payment, and today is the deadline. You could do this at n c dot gov slash co vid 19. As we battle, this virus will continue working to get resources to those who need it. In addition, today is the national deadline to respond to the 2020 census. This critical tool determines our representation in Congress and how much federal funding will come to our state today. The number of North Carolinians have not replied to the census, which could cost our state up to $54 billion in federal funding. If you haven't done it, please complete the census to ensure we make North Carolina count on Lee. Takes a few minutes. Now, I'd like to ask Dr Cohen to give us an update on our key covered metrics. Dr. Cohen, Thank you, Governor on. I want to echo your reminder about the census. Today is the last day to be counted. And since this data is used to determine how much federal funding goes to our communities, so let's get every dollar we can to support our recovery from co vid. Okay, let's dig into the data as a reminder. Every week we look at a combination of trend metrics Cove it like syndrome, A cases, new cases. Positive test is a percentage of total tests and hospitalization. Together, these four metrics give us a picture of where we are today. And as you are going to see in the data, we're moving in the wrong direction. All right, this first graph looks at people who come to the emergency department with co vid like symptoms. This is our earliest detection mechanism. Taking a look at that yellow line, you can see that it is going up. This increase is a warning that there is MAWR viral spread happening across our state. Next we look at new cases. This first graf on cases gives you a look at the trajectory of new cases since the first day we had our cases back in March. The Yellow Line shows our peak of cases back in July and then a slight bump in August, corresponding to the opening of universities and colleges. And you can see that recently. That line has gone up quite a bit in those last couple of weeks. But let's zoom in so you can get a better sense of the current picture, particularly over the months of September and October. And you could see when you look at the yellow line that our cases are trending up today. As the governor said, we reported our highest number of cases since the start of this pandemic. Unlike August, our current worsening trends don't link to any one place or anyone age group or any one type of activity. This increase is concerning, particularly as we head into flu season and I should note we will be putting out our first flu report later today. which will show we've already had one death of someone over 65 from flu moving on. Next, we'll look at the percent of tests that are positive. This number has been trending slightly higher. And while we still have days where it's close to 5% which is better than we were back in July, the trend is going in the wrong direction. All right, our next graph We look at day over day hospitalizations. You can see from the yellow line that this trend is also increasing. While we have sufficient hospital capacity, Some of our smaller hospitals are feeling the strain already. So here's where we are. Surveillance data trended up. It gets a red X. North Carolina's trajectory of cases is up. It also gets a red X. North Carolina's trajectory in percent of test returning positive is up, but we still have some days that are close to 5%. So this gets a yellow line and North Carolina's trajectory of hospitalization is up. But as I said, we still have capacity. This gets a yellow line now, to the capacity indicators are testing. Capacity is high on our peak testing days. In the past weeks. Labs air reporting upwards of 40,000 tests per day. So this gets an upward arrow. We continue hiring contact tracers to bolster the efforts of our local health department. However, we are hearing numerous reports from our health departments of people refusing to share information and context of people that they may have exposed to this virus. Please remember that all information is private and is never shared with a contact. Please answer the call and help protect your loved ones and neighbors. On the positive side related to contact tracing, more than 150,000 people have downloaded our exposure notification app slow co vid N C. But this metric gets a sideways arrow. RPP supplies remained stable and we continue to distribute PPE across the state, and this indicator also gets a sideways era. Look, this isn't where we want to be, and frankly, it's frustrating. We have the tools to slow the spread and protect one another. The science is clear on masks. They work. They slow the spread If everyone is working together to wear them. I know that no one in North Carolina wants to see us move backwards, so I'm asking all North Carolinians toe Wear a mask. When you are with people that you don't live with, please find your reason. Toe wear one. Maybe it's to keep your neighborhood small business open. Maybe it's so your Children can be in the classroom. Maybe it's today. Say thank you to a front line worker. Whatever your reason, I'm asking you to get behind the mask. Thank you. Thank you, Dr Cohen. As you can see, our numbers are higher than we want them to be. Right now. There's not one geographical area or industry to blame. I know we're all tired of this. It's frustrating to feel confined and to do the things we need to do to slow the spread of the virus. But we cannot let weariness and frustration went out, wearing masks and being careful, arm or important than ever. We brought our numbers down before, and we need to do it again. So even if you're gathering with friends or extended family or if you're just running into the store for a second, wear a mask, wait 6 ft apart and wash your hands. We will succeed if we do this together also with me. today is the secretary of public safety, Eric Cooks, and our emergency management director, Mike Spray Berry, Monica McGee and Karen Magoon, Our our Sign language Interpreters and Jasmine Motive E er and Sarah Iriondo. Our our Spanish language interpreter's will now take questions from the media. And if you can identify yourself and your organization, we would appreciate it. We'll take the first question. Our first question is from Michael Highland with CBS 17. Hi, this is Michael Highland from CBS 17. Uh, I want to ask related to the numbers that came out today on the new positive tests. Given that people been saying all along, we should expect to see higher case numbers as we go into the colder months. Should people be prepared to see numbers like we're seeing today consistently in the coming months? And at what point does that trigger any kind of stopped on further reopening, including for schools or even going backwards on our reopening? So we want to begin to see our numbers go down and yes, with colder weather and people moving mawr indoors, there is more chance for viral spread, and this is why we are emphasizing how we need to take these steps to slow the spread of the virus. Being more careful wearing masks, I think we sometimes let our guard down when we are with extended family people that we know. But in actuality, if we're not living with them, they could be bringing the virus to you and not know it. And so we have to still be careful, even when we're around people we know. I heard Dr Foulke talking about this the other day, Um, expecting to them to be higher. You know, we know that that potential is there, and it's certainly happening. But our goal is to get these numbers down, and I think it's important. You know, we we will take We will analyze the data as it comes in, and we're not gonna take one day. We're gonna look at the 14 day period of time to make decisions on what we do about safeguards. But we hope that by working together we can try to drive these numbers down. We have done this before. When? When we pulled together mawr and we were able to drive those numbers down, that was a good thing. So we're gonna keep working on that. Do you want to add something not going? Okay. Next question. Just follow up Michael Highland's CBS 17. Thank you. And Dr Cohen indicated there doesn't appear to be one specific change with reopening or something that that's driving these most recent numbers. But what implications does this have for reopening schools going forward, considering that not all schools or in Plan A right now, yeah, our number one priority is to get our Children safely back into the classroom. We know this is needed. We know this is necessary, but we've given our local school boards the tools to be able to do that. But we are encouraging them to look at the numbers in their areas, and we're working with them to help them make that determination. Dr. Cohen, would you want to add something to that? Hi, Michael is just a reminder. If we think about school reopening in general, it's both the metrics we need to look at, as well as the safety protocols and, as the governor mentioned, no matter what plan a school district may choose, and they can choose a plan a for elementary school or Plan B for middle school in high school to be in person. But no matter what plan they choose that there are, there are extensive safety protocols that need to come along with that. And that starts with Max for everyone, all students, all teachers, all staff. Um, there's other screening protocols, washing protocols and others. So it's the combination of those metrics, as well as the protocols that are really important to keep both our students and our teachers safe. Thanks. Next question, please. Our next question is from Rebecca Martinez with W u N C Hello, Governor. It's Rebecca Martinez from W u N C. Thank you for taking my question. I actually have a question for Dr Cohen. President Trump said earlier today in Greenville that the pandemic is Peter ring out. Do you agree? How would you describe its trajectory in North Carolina? Hi, Rebecca. Thanks for that. We're reporting our highest day of cases since this pandemic has begun. Doesn't feel like teetering out to me, but we can get this under control if we work together. Um, and that's what we're gonna do. And I think it starts with us doing those three W's. It's wearing a mask It's waiting 6 ft apart and washing your hands. Thanks. Next question, please. We will follow up. Rebecca Martinez. W N c Dr. Cohen, I have another question you mentioned earlier that, um, some people are refusing to share information with people who are doing contact Tracing. How often is this happening? Is it prevalent in specific demographic groups? What reasons are they giving record? Thanks for that question. We see about about half of folks are not responding to calls that were making Thio folks. I mean, that's been about consistent with where we are. But now we're seeing many more cases. Obviously, so many more calls going out. And we really want folks to be picking up the phone and talking to our folks at the local health department. We wanna understand who may else have been exposed to this virus. We can get in touch with them, and that way we can help them go access a test, make sure they're staying quarantined or isolated s so it's really important to work with your local health department. Pick up the phone when there are calling s so we can all work together on this. Thanks. Next question please this. Our next question is from Sharon Van Damme eaten with spectrum news. Hi, this is for Dr Colin. Sure, in vans laden with Spectrum News one. Is there any indication that the virus itself has changed to become more contagious or stronger? And could that be a reason that the numbers are going up? Thanks for that question. I know that the scientific community has been analyzing this virus as we've gone along. They've seen some small changes in the virus, but nothing in terms of its intensity of being infectious to this point. I think they'll continue to watch this. What we're seeing as the governor mentioned as we are seeing a change in weather, we're seeing the lower temperatures and lower humidity It actually the virus likes that on DSO that, in and of itself is giving the virus mawr opportunities to spread in the same settings in which people already were eso. We're seeing both people coming indoors mawr, when it's colder, understandably, and we know indoors is where virus can spread more easily. But it is also just the sheer fact that the temperature is lower and the humidity is lower. That makes it more conducive for this virus to spread. But we don't think the virus is changing, um, in any way. It is us that needs to make sure that we are being vigilant to prevent the spread of this virus as we know that we're heading into this change of weather season and into a season where there's other virus circulating like the flu. And I'd remind everyone that you can get your flu shot right now. I hope you have. The governor and I have both gotten our flu shot really important to take every step you can to protect yourself from all of the viruses that may be out there. Um, as well as wearing a face covering to protect yourself from Cove it. Thank you. Next question. Please follow up. Sharing vans, eaten spectrum news. Thank you, Dr Cohen. You gave me a perfect segue because I wanted to talk about vaccines. Uh, it looks like a number of companies. They're getting very close to getting what might be a final approval. Has the federal government, uh, said anything to the state about any kind of vaccine plan? Yeah. We are getting ready to turn in our vaccine plan for North Carolina on distribution. We look forward to the day when a safe and effective vaccine comes down. We've got to keep working until that time. And we also know that it will take a while to distribute the vaccine. And we have to set priorities for the vaccine but will be returning our plan. Uh, probably by tomorrow, Right, Dr Cohen. And we'll be looking at making sure that we take care of at risk Frontline healthcare workers at risk staff and nursing homes. Uh, people in nursing homes, But we'll be We'll be ready, toe. Reveal that tomorrow. Thanks. Next question, please. Our next question is from Dawn Bond with the News and Observer. Hi. Good afternoon. Um, it has more about the vaccine. 30 more information than you can share today about it. And then we're almost at 14 days in the face three, and that is set to end in a week. So with the number of Red X is and the way things were going, is it fair to say that that will need to be extended? Well, we're gonna look at the science and data that all of these metrics on a 14 day period before making that decision. That decision is gonna be made next week. And, Dr Cohen, if you want to talk a little bit more about the vaccine plan, you could do that. Hi, don. A couple of things about vaccines first, there are a number of vaccines that are in trials right now, so they're doing the research. None of them have yet applied for approval through the Food and Drug Administration at the federal government s Oh, they're continuing to do that. Work on what I would say. Actually, in the last week, we've seen one of those trials actually need to pause because they saw, um, an adverse health effects come from it, which I think is showing us the process is working right. They are looking to make sure that that all of the vaccines that come out of these trials that would go for approval are going to be safe and effective. And so I think the process is working as intended. So multiple vaccines to be developed. I think the other thing is at the beginning, we need to understand that there is only going to be a limited supply of those vaccines as a governor mentioned. So we're going to have to prioritize certain folks who will be able to get access to that vaccine at first. And then they will be working on ramping up manufacturing of that vaccine over a period of time. So I just also want remember, that s so we know we're going toe, receive limited supplies to start with. And so are vaccine plan outlines how we will both prioritized as well as work on the distribution of those vaccines to make sure that those who are in those top priority, uh, phases get access to the vaccine. So a lot more to be done. But like I said, I think a lot of good important scientific work still to come and data for us still toe, look at Thanks. Thanks. Next question. Please follow up. Don Bond News and Observer Hi again. Thanks If contact tracing isn't always working because of cooperation, what else can be done to find out what the sport is linked to? An Have you considered changing requirements as faras to reports outbreaks in going on what you think? Thanks Don eso. As you know, we've implemented a new tool in our contact tracing, uh, tool kit, if you will. It is an Elektronik one where you can download an app to your phone for free. You could do it right now. Go to the APP store. It's called Slow Cove It and see, As I mentioned, 150,000 North Carolinians have already downloaded that tool and what it allows you to do is be completely anonymous. You put no personal information, it doesn't track you. Um, and if you would become positive, you put in a pin number again. That doesn't identify you into that system and then it can alert people who you've been near again. I think that's just another tool to help us Make sure that we can continue Thio, understand If we've exposed others, if we have a positive and we've exposed others, I think the other thing I wanted to mention and we keep talking about masks and I just wanna take the opportunity to make the point about about mask that they they are preventing the virus that you could have from spreading to other people. Right. When you wear a mask, you are protecting the world. And that is also what's happening with contact tracing. If someone is calling you related to contacts by you picking up the phone, you are protecting others that you could infect without knowing it. And I think that's what this, uh, you know, we want to make sure we're being vigilant about doing all we can to protect our families and our communities as we work together to slow the spread of this virus. Thanks. Next question, please. Our next question is from Kate Martin with Carolina Public Press. Yes. Good afternoon, Governor and Dr Cohen, Thank you so much for taking my question. This is Kate Martin with Carolina Public Press. I'm hoping you guys can elaborate on what might happen if the metrics continue into the future, as they have been in the past few days. What measures is the state of North Carolina and the Department of Health Planning? If this continues the way it's been going, thank you very much. I'll let Dr Cohen comment on this, but we will look at the metrics, determine what might need to be done next to make sure that we are trying to control this virus and to control the spread of it. I really believe that if people would take the responsibility to do the things we need to do, then we can take care of the spread of this virus. In addition, the safeguards that we already have out there if people abide by them, then we all also can be successful in slowing the spread of this virus. And part of what we're doing already is is talking to retailers talking toe municipal officials, law enforcement, public health officials to talk about how we can doom or to get people to abide by the safeguards that we already have in place that can help us slow the spread of the virus. But I'll let that go and talk about that as well. Yeah. Hi, Kate. Thanks for that question. Um, I want to echo the governor. Sentiments is no one wants to move backwards, but I think you can imagine that if we needed to move backwards, we'd want to start with high activities that were at higher risk off spreading this virus. Um, and so that's what we would would concentrate on it. Just like we used a dimmer switch and thought about, um uh, easing of restrictions. We look at some of those high risk activities again. It's a matter of how many high risk activities are we doing all at the same time. But I want to emphasize that we can get these trends under control. We know how to prevent the spread of this virus. We don't have to go backwards, but I also want to encourage our local municipalities and others toe look at their own metrics and see what is driving rates of infection in their areas. Um, and work with the community. Talk to the community, be leaders in your community about how we can make sure to stop and slow the spread of this virus Further. Next question, please follow up. Kate Martin, Carolina Public Press. Right. Hi, Thanks for answering that question. I'm wondering now that we are several months into this pandemic. If you have any better idea about what the high risk activities are, and if they're like, God forbid, we do slide back into the danger zone or whatever. Like, are you going to be shutting down different activities than we did at the beginning of the pandemic? I know as we go into flu season as Dr Cohen said. We are seeing a risk for indoor activities and gathering close together. I'm hoping you can elaborate. Thank you. Thanks. Kate. I think we do and have learned a lot about this virus and do know the kinds of activities that are higher risk. I would say that the activities that are the highest risk or when you are indoors, gathered together without a mask. Um, and so you can imagine what some of those activities are. So it is. It is one of the reasons why indoor bars are still closed here in North Carolina, because you can imagine being indoors, gather together, taking off your mask. Uh, t drink alcohol are things where the virus spreads the most. So the things that we would look at first again look to the science that tells us, how does this virus spread? And again, it spreads most when people are close together, not wearing a mask, and it tends to be more indoors than outdoors. Thank you. Next question. Please pushed. Our next question is from Rick Curl with the daily record. Mm. Yeah, Governor. Dr. Cohen. Good afternoon. Its record with the daily record and done. I have a question is kind of a complicated one, And I'm not sure which one of you, if you even will be able to answer the number of deaths in North Carolina. You know, you said was roughly around 3900 of those deaths. How many deaths are actually the only cause? Waas coded 19. How many had underlying conditions? And what age group do those deaths fall in? How many deaths were over the age of 65 1 of the very high risk groups? How maney. You know how many people were in a in a group that had diabetes? That kind of thing. Um, and for that matter, how many cases are we seeing? You know, on average like that, Are we seeing more death at age 65? Are we seem, or death straight from Kobe It What are the numbers of that? Well, thanks for that question. And I'd want to direct you right now to our dashboard. Not only do we have our our total number of deaths there, but you will see that is broken out by some of the very questions you're asking. They break out the age by race and ethnicity, and it breaks it out into aged groups. And, as we've been talking about, co vid can make anyone very ill. But it looks like it is more severe for folks who are over 65 or have underlying chronic health conditions. So we are seeing Mawr death in those that are over 65. If they do get, uh, do get this virus. But that doesn't mean it's limited to those who are over 65. And, you know, sadly, we lost a college student just the other week. Healthy 19 year old eso where this can be a deadly virus. Um, even to those who have no underlying conditions and who are younger. But it tends to be that the deaths arm or in those that are over 65 or have underlying health conditions. Um, but understand that it still takes all of us working together. You can't just say, Well, well, the folks who are at higher risk, we're just gonna have them go often and and stay at home, and only they need thio to do something. We all have to work together on this, no matter who we are, what age we are what our underlying health status is. We all need to be wearing masks. We all need to be, uh, socially distant. We all need to be washing our hands because those air they're part of our community. And unfortunately, here in North Carolina, nearly half of adults in North Carolina have an underlying health condition that puts them at more risk for co vid. Um, so we have a challenge in front of us, but we know what works, and we know how to use those tools. And that's what we wanna make sure, folks we're hearing today. Thanks. Next question. Please follow up. Rick Curl Daily record. You have Dr Cohen. I had talked to US Congressman Richard Hudson yesterday, and he said the the number of deaths in North Carolina the estimate that he had the number of deaths in North Carolina people under the age of 65 the number was 52. Is that number high? Low? Is it off the mark? A lot, Richard. Thanks for, for For that, I don't have those off, but you can go to our website right now and look at the number of deaths and those who are over the age of 65. And those that are are under 65 I think. But I don't, so I don't want to guess I I I know that there are more than 50 deaths, unfortunately, of folks who are under the age of 65 but I don't have the exact number, but you can go to our dashboard. You can look at it on any given day again. These are all deaths that are reported to us by medical providers who are are calling co vid 19 the cause of death for for folks. So I just wanna make that very clear. Um, this is the cause of death Is Cove in 19 when it it gets recorded in our death count for the state of North Carolina, having a pre existing condition or being over 65 shouldn't be a death sentence. Next question, please. Mama. Our next question is from Brian Anderson with the Associated Press. Hi, Governor. Hi, Dr Cohen. Brian Anderson here calling on the after the Associated Press. Thank you so much for the question. Uh, was it a mistake, governor, for you to go forward with the phase three reopening given the trends were not good in the couple days leading up to it. And do you have any plans to dial back or tighten these restrictions? When you announced your decision on the current executive order when it expires next week, when we make decisions on putting in safety measures, we look at a 14 to sometimes 21 day window in order to make those decisions, and we make them based on the data that we have at the time when the next order expires, we're gonna be looking at the 14 to 21 day period that we've just experienced. So we're gonna let that data be our God. This dimmer switch approach, I believe, is the best way to control the virus. But is Dr Cohen has said earlier. And I've said earlier I think we have ah lot of measures in place that if people will abide by them and everybody pulls together, then we can slow the spread of this virus dot Cohen, Would you want to add to that? Okay, next question. Please follow up. Brian Anderson, Associated Press Thanks. And for the previous questioner on the website, it shows that there's hundreds of deaths among people below the age of 65 just to flag that. But, uh, last night at the governor's debate, Lieutenant Governor Dan Forest in reference. Three states Georgia, South Carolina and Tennessee I know there's. There's valid reasons to complain about Georgia as faras entire caseload deaths relative to a similarly sized population to North Carolina but related to South Carolina and Tennessee, either for the governor or for Secretary Cohen. What lessons can be learned from those two states in their re openings, either for the good or for the bad? I think you need a measured approach, and we took the advice of health officials looking at the science at the time looking at the data and made decisions about AH, gradual easing of safeguards. I think that where we have ended up thus far, I think that was the correct approach to take, and we're going to continue with that approach. But we also know that it just isn't the safeguards that you put in place. It's whether people pulled together and abide by them and do the things that we need to do collectively to slow the spread, and we need all leaders throughout the state to set good examples and to make sure that I mean business leaders, church leaders, people who are respected in the community. Thio send the signal to others. You know, I care about you. And I want to do the things that I need to do to protect you. That means wearing a mask and doing the social distancing and being careful about what you do. And that's what we want. And I believe that North Carolina can lead the way in slowing the spread of the virus. If the people of North Carolina can pull together and I believe that we can we've done it before. We can do it again. Would you want to add to that? Okay, next question. Please. Come on. Our final question today is from Travis staying with WRL. Okay? Yes. Thank you for taking my question. Um, ventilation is something I don't hear a lot of discussion about. I don't see a lot of places that are indoor only with doors propped open our windows open. I don't hear it Talked about a lot by officials. My understanding, though, is that that can be a good way to avoid indoor transmission am I missing something here? Are there ways? If this needs to be more prevalent in our response, it can be more prevalent in our response. Hi, Travis. Thanks for that question around ventilation. I think it is one component that we need to think about. It's why I was sharing earlier. That virus transmission seems to be lower outside, then inside. And so if you were going inside, improved ventilation is an improvement. But what I would say is you want to avoid getting virus particles into the air to begin with? No. Otherwise, that's why I go back to the masks. We want toe layer on safety protocols. I think relying on any one thing as a silver bullet is to our detriment. I think this is about layering on safety protocols. So when you have the opportunity to to do something outside versus in, make that choice when you have the opportunity to be more socially distant versus closer together, make that choice and when you have the opportunity to wear a face covering when you're without with anyone who is outside of whom you live with, make that choice, eh? So I think that's the piece here. I think ventilation can be an important factor, but it should not be the only thing that we think about when making choices. So we wanna make sure you're keeping that virus out of the air to begin with. And that starts with the mask. And again, as I was saying, What the mask really does is protect you who might have co vid from getting any of that virus into the air around other people in the first place. That's why if we all do that together, then everyone is not spreading virus out into the air. And thus no one is gonna be picking up that virus either. Eh? So I think it's, you know, we want to focus on the things that layer on precautions. Ventilation is one of them, but I think it doesn't negate the need to focus on masks. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks everybody for joining us today. Let's all stay safe and let's all work hard together. Toe beat the spread of this virus. Thank you.