Cooper asking local authorities to step up enforcement to slow coronavirus spread
Gov. Roy Cooper and state health and safety officials provide an Oct. 21, 2020, update on the coronavirus outbreak in North Carolina and the state's response to it.
50,592 cases over a quarter of a million Cove. In 19 cases we've had in our state 1 842 new cases reported since yesterday, 1219 people in the hospital and, sadly, 4032 people who have died. My family and I continue to pray for those left behind in the wake of this cruel virus that has taken so many Americans from us too soon. Today, Dr Mandy Cohen, our secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, we'll cover the data on our key trends, like states across the country, are numbers continue to be higher than we want, so our work to prevent the spread of this virus remains critical. This week you'll see even Mawr detailed information on the state's coronavirus dashboard, including county level data, a new breakdown of age, race, ethnicity and gender of people who are in the hospital. And a new report on clusters around ST. Seeing how and where the virus is spreading in our communities helps us know how to slow it, and it reinforces the sinister way this virus spreads at work at church and at the homes of friends and families this week, we're also asking local authorities to step up their efforts to slow the spread in their communities. Secretary Cohen and the secretary of the Department of Public Safety, Eric Hooks, have shared a letter to county partners. Encourage encouraging ways to enhance prevention efforts, starting with mobilizing businesses, community and faith leaders on the three W's. We need everyone's leadership in this moment talking about wearing a mask, waiting 6 ft apart and washing hands. The letter went on to also went to counties that have been experiencing increased viral spread, and it laid out steps that they can take to slow infections. These include using civil penalties or fines for violating safety rules. The letter also proposes that some county should consider going beyond the statewide executive orders in ways such as lowering their local mass gathering limit or ending alcohol sales before the statewide requirement of 11 p.m. Our local partners are key allies. As we continue to fight Cove in 19 and their work is vital, we hope our local communities can work with us to move some of our troubling trends in the right direction I also want to update you on the Hope Program to help people with rent and utility payments. We have had over 12,000 eligible applicants for this program in less than a week since it launched. So many families are on the edge and need help just to be able to stay in their home with the lights on. People can apply for help by calling to 11 or going to N. C 211 dot org's backslash hope. As the number of applications climbs higher every day, it should make us remember that it's more than a number. Every single one of those applications represents a family having to make impossible choices between basic necessities necessities during a global pandemic. Taxpayers can be assured that the $117 million Hope Program is having the desired effect as help for these families goes directly to landlords and utility companies to help ensure that people can stay in their homes. But we know the needs will surpass the amount we have. We need more support from Washington, and we need it soon and will continue working on ways to support North Carolinians Right now. I'd like for Dr Cohen to come and to share her data and update us on our key metrics. Dr. Cohen? Yeah. Thank you, Governor. As the governor mentioned, we've added some new data to the dashboard and we are working with our local partners to help us fight this virus. I'll come back to these after we go through our data, So let's get started as a reminder. Every week we look at a combination of trend metrics. We look at Cove it like syndrome, A cases, new cases, positive tests as a percentage of total tests and hospitalizations. Together, these four metrics give us a picture of where we are today. As we move to our first graph, we look at people who come into the emergency department with co vid like symptoms. This is our earliest detection mechanism and taking a look at the yellow line. You can see that this trend has started to decrease in this past week. But as we look at trends over the past two weeks, it is overall level and still too high. Next we look at new cases. This first graf on cases gives you a look of the trajectory of cases every day since we had our first case back in March and you can see the line has gone up quite a bit in the last couple of weeks and that we have now surpassed our previous peak that occurred in July. But let's zoom in and get a better sense of the current picture, particularly over the month of September and October, what you could see when you look at the yellow line that our cases are trending up. Last Thursday and Friday, we had our highest number of daily cases reported since the start of the pandemic. Next slide, we looked at the percent of tests that are positive. This number has started trending slightly higher. I'd like to see this back at 5% on our next slide. We look a day everyday hospitalizations and you can clearly see from this yellow line. This trend is increasing while we have capacity, some of our smaller hospitals are already feeling the strain. You can now get mawr information on hospitalizations on our dashboard. Yesterday we added demographic information about people admitted to the hospital with Cove in 19. Our team and North Carolina's hospitals have been working together to be able to collect and share this information about new admissions by race, ethnicity, age and gender. Okay, so here's where we are. Our surveillance data ticked down and his level but still high over the past two weeks. It gets a yellow line. North Carolina's trajectory of cases is up. It gets a red X. North Carolina's trajectory in percent of test returning positive is up, but lower than where it was during the last time. Our cases were at this peak level in July. This gets a yellow line. North Carolina's trajectory of hospitalization is up, but we still have capacity. This gets a yellow line. So now on to our capacity indicators are testing. Capacity is high. This gets an upward arrow. We continue to hire contact tracers to bolster the efforts of our local health department. So if you test positive, please share information about where you were and who you were near. This information is private and is never shared with a contact, and there also have been almost 250,000 people who have downloaded our exposure notification app, slow co vid and see overall, this metric gets a sideways arrow our PPE supplies remained stable and we continue to distribute PPE across the state. This indicator also gets a side worries arrow. So look, this has been a really hard year. I understand how much everyone wants to be with family and friends without having to worry about a virus. We miss the people we love and the places that bring us joy or provide comfort. I haven't seen my parents in person and I miss seeing them play with my girls. And I'm sad that I've never met my new baby niece. But look, we're doing everything we can to slow the spread of this virus. The simple fact is we can't do it on our own. Ignoring the virus does not make it go away just the opposite. In the past two weeks, we've seen an increase in co vid 19 clusters in social gatherings, things like informal get togethers and family gatherings and parties. We've also seen an increase in cases from clusters in religious gatherings. You can see other places where we're learning about clusters. In our new report on our Covad dashboard that will be updated weekly, remember, we also have resource is to help there is guidance for places of worship as well as a tool kit. Earlier this week, we also posted new guidance for private social gatherings. Remember, any time people come together, there's risk for transmitting this virus. But there are steps you can take toe lower that risk. And, of course, it starts with the three W's. Wearing a mask is not about how well you know someone when you are with someone you don't live with, where a mask over your mouth and nose. This is scientifically proven to reduce the risk of exposing someone to Covad. 19. Meet outside arranged tables and chairs for social distancing. Keep the group small. This guidance is on our website right now. Co vid 19 dot and CDH adjust dot gov. We're also looked working with local partners. Secretary Hooks and I are asking local leaders to promote the three W's and consider local actions to continue to help slow the spread of this virus. As hard as this is, it will end. We will get through this. Let's do it by looking out for one another. Whatever your reason, get behind the mask. Thank you. Thank you, Governor. Thank you, Dr Cohen for your leadership for that update and for the hard work that you and your team are doing. Because several of our trends are moving in the wrong direction. North Carolina will remain paused in phase three for the next three weeks. We hope that greater enforcement, strong community leadership and mawr people doing the right things can lower these numbers. It's critical that we take this time to focus on the basics. Yes, where a mask wash your hands wait 6 ft apart from other people. These are the habits that helped lower our numbers over the summer, and they are still are best tools. Wait. As this pandemic continues, I know that it's tiring and difficult to keep up our guard, especially when we're gathered with people we love. But it's necessary. No one wants to spread Covad 19 accidentally to friends or family, and so we must keep prevention at the forefront. Wearing a mask shows that you care about people. It's more for them than for you. Wearing a mask is an easy way to protect our communities and to look out for each other, confronting the virus head on and doing our part as individuals is good for our health, and it's good for our economy. Let's keep working together. Let's keep doing what works and let's say focused every day on our fight against this virus. Also with me today is our deputy director of emergency management, Steve Powers, and Ryan Flynn, the chief of staff of the Office of Recovery and Resilience. Brian Tipton in Monaco. McGee are our sign language interpreters and behind the scenes Jackie Materia and Ron Vasquez, our our Spanish language interpreter's. We invite you to ask questions. If you can identify yourself and your organization, we would appreciate it, and we'll begin with the first one. Our first question is from Colleen quickly. W M c n Hey, good afternoon, Governor. Thank you so much for taking my question. You talked a lot today about enforcement and strengthening enforcement, but we know that law enforcement agencies across our state has said they aren't going to enforce these guidelines. So if we continue to see a lack of enforcement and trends in the wrong direction, at what point do you say we have to go backwards in terms of the faces of reopening Mawr and Mawr law enforcement across the state are beginning to recognize that it is important for them to play a role in enforcement, even if it is an informal one going and talking to people and being leaders into in the community. We just saw the sheriff of Halifax County who had said a few months ago that he wasn't going to enforce, is now going to enforce safety protocols. In addition, local health departments and our state Department of Health and Human Services have authority under the health laws to enforce, uh, safety precautions toe, make sure that we're sending the signal that this is serious and that we have to slow the spread of the virus. I'm feeling mawr confident that we can enforce what we have to be able to drive down our numbers. It really takes people working together. But I think more and more people are recognizing that it's important for us to do that. Dr. Cohen, would you like to add a word or two? Okay, Next question, please. Our next question is from Thomas. Wait, Obrecht with w i t n Hi, Governor. Thank you for taking my question. I feel comfortable telling my friends telling my family. You know they should be wearing a mask on public, um, whenever it's, you know, required. But when I'm in the store or at a restaurant and I see others not doing that, I don't know what to tell them. What should we tell strangers or tell people who are, you know, endangering the situation? Uh, as someone who doesn't know them just you are helping Great question. And I know it's frustrating to be out out there in a store or in a restaurant or seeing people who are not complying with the rules. When you're in a retail establishment, I recommend going and telling one of the employees or even Mawr, preferably the management of the retail establishment, that someone is not complying with the rules. I don't think you necessarily have to take it upon yourself. And ah, lot of these businesses are doing mawr to make sure that their employees and their customers are protected in my conversations with businesses. I've encouraged them to do this, to be forceful, a number of law enforcement have said, although we may not necessarily enforced the mask mandate itself. If we get a call from a retail establishment saying that someone is there who will not wear a mask. We will go and use are trespassing laws to try and remove or to site that person that's on the retail establishment. So I think you're seeing more and more businesses understand that they need their own employees protected that they want to protect their customers. And it increases the bottom line because the vast majority of people who go into retail establishments wanted to be safe. And the vast majority of people in this state understand that wearing a mask and social distancing will keep everybody safer. So I'd recommend telling the management and just continue to set. The example is being a leader in your community, You know, hopefully getting past this election will help us come together on this. I know that this has been involved in the political process, and it's that's a frustrating thing. But I do believe that most of the people of North Carolina do want to slow the spread of this virus, and they understand that collectively, we have significant power to be able to do that. Next question, please. Our next question is from Richard Craver, Winston Salem Journal. Good Hello, Governor. This is Richard Craver with the Winston Salem Journal. Um, I had a couple of questions for you. Oh, actually, one for you and one for, uh, Secretary Cohen. The question of you is that since the announcement came out earlier today about trying to enlist the help of local governments, local communities to help reinforce the social business in guidelines including maybe tighter restrictions you had Lieutenant Governor Force come out and basically talk about this is some sort of abdication of your responsibility for these restrictions. I want you to comment on that. And then for Secretary Cohen, given that by the time the next potential ending of face threes in the middle of November and we're gonna be mawr indoors and mawr towards the middle of flu season, if there's a certain metric you are looking at now in terms of, um, further tightening restrictions. Thanks. Thanks for the question. What we're doing now in working with local governments to slow the spread of the virus is no different from how we started this thing back in March and April. In June, we set a floor with statewide restrictions, but at that time we also encouraged local governments that if they were seeing Mawr viral spread in their community and if work better for their community, they could use restrictions that are greater than the state floor. And a number of our cities across the state did that, and it helped us to slow the spread of the virus. What Secretary Cohen and, uh, Secretary Hooks have done has sent a letter to local governments, particularly into the counties that air having problems. We now have the county data breaking broken down and particularly some of our areas. Hospitals are becoming Teoh a little more strained, and we're seeing Mawr viral spread. We wanted to remind local governments that they do have that authority to doom or than the statewide floor and to attract or two to attack the virus specifically in their communities. It also encouraged them to come together and to bring in leaders to set the example of wearing a mask and socially distancing of washing hands and doing the things that we need to do in addition to enforcing the safeguards that we have in place right now. Dr. Cohen. Hi, Richard. Thanks for the question about what we would look at as we move into November and a sweet talked about often we we have to look at a combination of metrics. It's why, when we go through, uh, data day like we did today, we look at all those metrics. We obviously know that our cases air going up in our at some of our highest levels that we have seen since the start of this pandemic. We see our hospitalizations going up. But we also see the percent of test that are positive is lower than we were back in July. We saw the early surveillance warning Data Chick back down this week. So again, we have to look at this data over a period of time. We look at it over 14 days and we have to look at them in combination toe, understand how they influence each other. What I would say as we do, head into colder months where we know with with lower temperatures and lower humidity, the virus had likes to spread, Um, and it's gonna have mawr opportunity to do that, particularly as we move activities indoors. So as we think about moving into this next period, I am concerned that our cases are going up at a time where we are also seeing those lower temperatures and knowing that we're gonna be doing mawr activities indoors things. That's why we want to remind folks that we're already seeing more virus spread in these informal or social gatherings, right? We often think, Oh, I'm just with my my family or some really close friends. You need to be wearing your mask any time you are with anyone outside who you live with in your household, anyone outside of your home s. So I think if we focus on all those things in addition to what the governor has been talking about enforcement and the three W's in all settings, I think we will be able to hold steady with our trends and continue to live with this virus. Thank you. Thank you. Next question, please. Our next question is from Don Von with the News and observer. Hi, John Bond with the newsman server. I wanted to ask about reporting and again about law enforcement. Um, and enforcement of the mandates Are there going to be any penalties associate id with, um, agencies that aren't enforcing the master of the restrictions and then with I know a lot of people will be looking at the new, um, data gathering clusters. Why is it still on Lee? You know, childcare schools and current care that that are mandated to report, Why not expand that toe other places? Well, as to law enforcement, as I mentioned earlier, some already are very engaged in this. And others are, uh, getting mawr engaged, understanding how virus spread is happening in their communities. So you're seeing more and more law enforcement talking to people reminding them. And we're also putting, uh, the onus on the retail establishments to make sure that the people who are in their restaurant or grocery store or drug store or whatever it is that all of them are wearing the mask. Our health departments in our Department of Health and Human Services also has authority under the abatement provisions, and Dr Cohen can talk with you a little bit more about that. But that has already been used in some circumstances, and we anticipate that that's going to be used mawr in the coming days, particularly working with local help departments to send a strong business, uh, send a strong signal to businesses that it's important for the health of the community and the economy of the community For them to take steps to slow the spread of the virus. I'll let Dr Cohen address the rest of that. Hi, Don. Thanks for the question. You're exactly right. In terms of, there are certain entities that are required by law to report a cluster. Tow us in a reminder. Ah, cluster is five or more cases. Um, and if they're required to report them tow law like a school, a child care setting, a long term care setting and another congregate living setting like a homeless shelter. Folks are required to report that to us. And then we do post that information on a weekly basis on our website down to the name and address of of that location. Um, but that is not for every business and so, But we do want folks toe have an understanding of where these clusters are forming. And we want folks who are seeing a number of cases to reach out to their local health department because we wanna work with you. We want to make sure we are breaking that chain of transmission on and there are things we can do to work with you, whether it's a restaurant or a religious setting or even that was a party at someone's home. Eso we are encouraging folks to pick up the phone and work with your local with your local health department on these, uh, these clusters that we're seeing of cases. Um, but we do want to give some folks an idea of it. They're not required to report to us, so we know that it's likely an under count of what the clusters are out there, but at least gives you a sense of where we're starting to see it. Least five or more cases starting to spread around, uh, around the state. Thanks. Next question, please follow up. Don von News and Observer. Thanks. Start taking a follow it. So there. I guess there won't ever be an extension of who has to report. Is there another way to do that? Or to incentivize that or some other ways? But thanks, Don. And in a review of states across the country, actually, North Carolina has some of the most strict reporting requirements already for entities and particularly as we look at schools, and we looked around the country. The fact that we are able to get mandatory reporting from our school settings and then be able to share that back with the public, I think does put us already at the end of, uh, places were able to be incredibly transparent. And again, we'll continue to work with folks on reporting, Um, and and again just to reiterate that this virus is spreading in any situation where folks are close together or not wearing masks. And I think that's what is evident in some of the cluster data that we're reporting out today. Thanks. Next question, please. Our next question is from Michael Hennessy Wghp. Hey, Governor Michael, Honesty from Fox eight here have a question for you as well as the question for Dr Cohen when it comes to school. As we saw the beginning of this pandemic, you have the power toe close the district, typically here in the Piedmont Triad. We've seen several of our local district pushing back their starts. Are you considering going back and doing a baseline similar toe, what you did at the beginning and then for Dr Cohen, you talked about a lot of the data what you guys were seeing in certain settings. But we're curious, really, what that specific data is. Several health leaders were pointing to things like restrictions. Maybe people just getting tired about that. What is that specific data? And is that something that will be able to see as you guys continue to expand your dashboard? Thank you. We're continuing to monitor the data and continuing to talk with educators, teachers who are in the classroom, principals, administrators, school board members and health officials about schools. Our number one goal is to get our Children back safely into our school, into pissed into in person learning. But we know that in a number of parts of our state that it is not safe to do that 100% yet. So as of now, we're continuing to provide the three options that local systems can choose. The first option is all remote learning. The second option is having a combination of remote learning and less density and in person classes. And the third option is allowing K through five to be able to go back to school fully in person, but with safety measures there as well and we see schools all over the state adopting all of these options, depending on where they are. And we hope that this county data that we're gonna be able to provide to them can help them is they help to make decisions. We certainly are going to continue to monitor to see if we need to do anything differently from a statewide perspective. And if we need to do that, we will as we did in March earlier this year. But I think it's important that we continue to strive to get our Children the very best education that they can. It's why we're putting it in overdrive, toe help with hot spots and connecting students thio rural high speed Internet access access is one of the reasons I proposed a bond toe to do that, and we're doing everything we can to help train teachers Thio. Help them deal with this new situation of having to teach, sometimes remotely. All of these are amazing challenges that are being faced by schools and parents, and I know it's tough on the parents to have Children home longer than they're used to having them, But our mission is to try to get these Children back into school as quickly as we can and one of the best ways to do that. If everybody would pull together and wear masks and social distancing, weaken, slow the spread of the virus and speed that process up of getting our Children back in school dot com. And I'll let you address the next quick Thank you. The only thing I add on schools before I go to the other question is that we know much more about how this virus is transmitted in Children. Um, we know that Children, it seems to be under the age of 10 seem to get this virus less often. They get less sick, and then they also transmitted toe. Others less frequently doesn't mean never. Kids can get sick, they can have symptoms, Um, and they can transmit it. But it's much less. And I think that we have used that science and and evidence to inform our decision making about schools, and we will continue Thio update our understanding as new science has learned about that. And as far as other data on our dashboard, I'm not sure I 100% understood the question so I apologize. But there is a a sizable amount of data that helps you understand where this virus is spreading most. Some of the new data that you can see that the governor was talking about at the county level before you could see the number of new cases, of course, at the county level, and you could see that at the ZIP code level. But what I think is new that helps folks really understand things, is you could see it in some different time sequences. You can see what's happened the last 24 hours the last seven days the last 14 days and again gives you the ability to look at trends over time and understand what's happening in the community. Were also putting up a report about clusters in some various settings. It's where we've shared today that we're seeing an increase in these informal social gatherings. We're seeing an increase in religious settings s so I think that helps you understand a bit Maura, about where this virus spreads. But overall, we're not necessarily necessarily seeing one geography or one age group or one type of setting that's driving this, that the virus is everywhere here in North Carolina. And that's why you keep hearing us give these messages of we all have to work together on the three W's. There's no place in North Carolina that can let down their guard at this time. There are places that have to work even harder than they are because we see the virus spreading a lot. But no one can let down their guard, given what we're seeing in our data. But I'd encourage our local leaders in particular to go to our dashboard to really examine what we're seeing in the trends. And then we'd be happy to work with you to tailor Thio what's going on in your community. Thanks. Next question, please. Our next question is from Michelle Boudin. Wcnc. Hi, Governor. Thanks so much for taking my question and I apologize the pivot right now, but we've been trying to get to you for a while, So my question is back in August, the courts throughout Ronnie Longs conviction after he served 44 years in prison, and at this point, his attorneys have been asking for a while that you pardon him, sort of paving the way for him to get some relief after 44 years. What can you tell me about your plans, uh, to deal with that pardon request, we are going to consider any requests that we get carefully. I served 16 years as attorney general and helped set up the North Carolina Innocents Commission, which was the first of its kind in the country, uh, to be able to determine whether people are actually innocents of their crimes. And, uh, that has worked, but obviously needs some improvements. Uh, my task force that I've set up on racial equity in criminal justice is working on a number of recommendations that I look forward to seeing. But that petition from, uh, Mr Long, which I think was received a week or so ago, will receive careful consideration by me and by my office. Uh, it is a significant, uh, power of the governor to be able to make decisions about what a judge and jury have done. And I take that power under the Constitution very seriously, but we'll review that application along with others. Next question, please. Our next question is from Travis Dane, W R a. L Yeah, I I correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe the Abbott fast acting an engine test receive from the federal government are heading out this week to various counties. And my understanding is you're gonna focus on hot spots where the virus has been spreading rapidly. Can you drill that a little bit more as to what? The purpose the hope for those are. Will they be used, particularly in schools or particularly, uh, in nursing homes? How are those tests going to be used and how will they change things if it all when it comes to the state's response, received these from the federal government? And these are a little different than the test that we have been using. But I'll let Dr Cohen tell you a little specifically about what we're doing with those tests. Dr. Cohen. Thanks, Travis. Yes, we have received what's called antigen test, which is a slightly different tests. Is the governor has said from the federal government, and we have been distributing those through our local health departments. We have to understand about these kinds of tests different than than others. Is there meant to be used in situations where there we think someone may already be positive they have symptoms, There might be part of an outbreak. Um, and we're still learning about the best use of this. We're right now targeting the use of these tests to outbreak situations. Whether that's in a school, um, or any setting within within the counties. Eso we have shared that those tests and we have already distributed, um the ones we have gotten to our local health departments toe have them use in various settings. We are trying to target them to those who are, um, at higher risk of those outbreaks settings. Because again, this is it's not meant as a screening tool. Um, not meant as a screening test is, it is meant to be used similar to how you would go to the doctor and get a rapid flu test or a rapid strep test. If anyone's done that right, you come in with symptoms that might seem like the flu the doctor does, or a nurse does the rapid flu tests, Um, and then you get that result back. It's sort of the same kind of way in which you would want to use these tests if you're having symptoms. If you have a higher likelihood of actually having exposure or having this virus. That's when this test is pretty good at picking up the virus. If you don't. If it if you get a negative test, it doesn't necessarily tell you as much. And that's what we're still learning about. What? What can we do with the negative test and what? What is the next step for someone if they do get a negative result from one of these antigen tests, I think more for us to learn as we go through this. But again, good to have another tool in our testing tool belt. Here is we go forward. Next question, please. Our final question is from Brian Anderson with the Associated Press. Hi, Governor. Hi, Dr Colin. Brian Anderson here with the Associated Press. Thanks for the time. I had a question for both of you. Uh, first for Dr Cohen. I understand correlation and causation aren't the same thing. And having said that, I'm just curious how the transition to phase three had contributed. If it all to the increases in the state's key Covad metrics. Uh, and for the governor, uh, people are concerned about the rising case count hitting all time highs of last week twice, uh, percentage of eight positive going up from around 5 to 7%. And it's clear that there's fear of the weather conditions impacting viral spread. So why are you sending your current executive order rather than frightening restrictions at a time when the scientists telling you that conditions are worsening? Well, first, we are pausing in phase three, and we're not going forward with easing safeguards because of the concern that we have. Secondly, we're working on increased enforcement. We have safety precautions that that air in place, that some people are not complying with. And we believe that enforcement will will help us to slow the trends. Uh, third, we're working hard to bring community leaders together and, uh, reemphasizing local government authority in areas where this virus maybe mawr of an issue than in other areas of the state. And we're hoping that all of that can help us stem the tide that we see coming at us. The good thing about our state eyes that we have been able to, uh, do a little better in saving lives and reducing the number of infections because of the strong actions that we have taken, and we want to be careful about how we approach this along the way. But we know that these numbers are not where we want them to be. We aren't in the in the middle of a spike, and we haven't seen one yet in this process, largely due to the people's persistence out there and to the strong action that we've taken. But we will continue to watch these trends and we'll do whatever is necessary. And I'll let Dr Cohen address the face three issues. Hi, Brian. Thanks for the question about do face. Did Phase three contribute to the increase in our numbers? And what I'd say is I go back and look at our trends over the last number of weeks. We know that it takes some time, some for an action like easing of restrictions for Phase three for them to show up in our numbers and actually are trends started to go up, you know, over these three weeks, and so I think that Phase 3 may have a piece of this, but it's not exclusively related. Thio Phase three. I think largely what we're seeing is is a combination as I was mentioned before, folks that air fatigue, they're not doing the three W's. They're not. Not particularly in social and informal gatherings. We need to be sure they were being vigilant doing the three W's there. So again, not one thing. Not one setting, not one geography. And so that's why we have to work hard together. So I certainly think that a signal that we're moving forward in phase 3 may have not just eased restrictions on a few businesses, but may have, uh, folks, like, put their guard down a bit. Um, and I think that's the thing. We wanna make sure that folks are putting their guard back up being vigilant as we go forward. Here. Thanks. Okay, everybody. Thanks for joining us today. That let's work hard and look after each other. Thanks. Yeah.