Berger, Moore discuss legislative session, violent protests
Senate President Pro Tem Phil Berger and House Speaker Tim Moore hold a news conference as the General Assembly opens a brief session dedicated to pandemic relief.
that we have an opportunity. Is the Legislature to be here to help respond to certainly one of the greatest crisis that our state has ever has ever found itself in? You know, the bill that has been talked about yesterday and that we're gonna be voting on today and tomorrow is going to get relief out to families all across the state. It's going to get out there to folks who are having a really hard time, part of the opportunity that that are members, Of course, Senator Burger and I have We're not in sessions that were back home and where it places all over the state on. I've seen feel from mania to Murphy. Just about had been there as well, and one thing that we're seeing as we travel around or members districts that were out there. We know there's a lot of suffering when there's a lot of worry, everything from families wondering about how their kids going to get a good education during this period of time to Howard, Health needs going to be met, and it's great to be here to hear things from our first round of covert relief that we did that I think has been met with the pretty well approval across the board to see what things we can do to even enhance further. We didn't spend every dime we came in last time because we knew there would be things that would come up over the period of time that we would need to deal with. So what we've done with this new bill that appropriates roughly another billion dollars of covert funding is to find where those areas are, where we need to spend it. So that's the focus of this of this week's very short session. The other key thing to point out is that even during these tough economic times that we find ourselves in because we have budgeted responsibly because we have done the right things and made the tough decisions over time, we have allowed our state to be in pretty good fiscal health, particularly given all the other circumstances. One only need to look at other states around the country to see states that have multi I mean double figure billion dollar deficits that they have because they didn't make the hard decisions. But we've been able to make this and I continue. Those have been tough and said North Carolina is in the best position possible toe. Whether this storm we're in right now, you know, 10 million citizens of the state rely on us doing things, and that's getting it right. And so the work that you see the legislation that we're voting on is a result of making sure that we are in fact doing that of collaboration with all areas of the state, with members from both chambers, with folks involved in both parties to make sure that we're doing what we need to do to get that relief out there to citizens of this community, you know, very pleased with the work that are bipartisan. Kobe 19 committee did this this spring where, while the recommendations came out, some of those we were ableto most those we were able to fully fund last time. But a few we weren't sure we were gonna be able to now being funded through the second round that we have. We've also shown our commitment for public education in North Carolina, whether it's K 12 community college universities investing their partnering with our research institutions to make sure that we're doing all we can and utilizing all we can and all hands on that to utilize the great resource is of this state when it comes to protecting our citizens into actually working for a cure for this for this virus and also developing a vaccine. And I could not be more prouder than I am today is a North Carolinian to realize that North Carolina is on the tip of the spear when it comes to Fighting Cave in 19. If you look at our research that's happening in our universities, if you look with the partnerships that we have with our with private companies based in the RTP and elsewhere in this state and working through that, North Carolina is a key part of the cutting edge research and development that we're seeing to deal with, Kovar 19. We also know that there are that parents face unique challenges this year that they've never had to deal with before having to balance many times career with how they ensure that their Children get an education before the kids legislation. That's actually gonna take money and get that these families who have school age kids to make sure that they have a little extra help to take care of those Children I think is key. It's something that I couldn't be prouder of, and I'm really pleased we were able to come to an agreement on that and use that. I think the And if you look at the biggest check single appropriation, I think that's about a little over $400 million of the money that went to that. So this money is going and actually getting out there to take take care of those who need it the most. Very proud of that. We've also, of course, invested heavily in getting more peopie out there from everything from the from the health side to schools. You name it to make sure that folks were able to have access to that, to protect themselves and protect their families. You know, we have. We invest in this package over $1.2 billion in health care. That's a huge number that's being spent. If you look at the coverage of legislation that we've done $1.2 billion in health care alone looking, our priority is this. We know that there we know there are folks who are more vulnerable than others we've been able to partner with. For example, are sisters, living community nursing homes and others who are taking care of the most vulnerable population. Those who were in their older years. And that is we have underlying health conditions to make sure that they're getting access to those resource is as well, very proud of that. It is genuinely my hope that as we are here, this for these couple of days that this is legislation that will be able to pass unanimously, hopefully in both Chambers Bay. Proud of it. Very proud of the opportunity to work with our counterparts in the Senate and before taking any questions force with my counterpart Senator Center burgers. Thank you, Tim on, as the speaker has indicated, have some remarks and then, after that, will be more than happy to take your questions first. I want to thank everybody for being here, and I have already received a few thank you's from from folks that they are glad that this session is going to end tomorrow, and for that, you all are welcome. But I can tell you that was a priority for us as well up until this point, we've passed a number of bills to try to safely reopened the state's economy. And, as you know, the governor has vetoed those bills. This bill is about equipping people of the state of North Carolina with tools to help weather the storm of school closures and economic laws. I'd like to touch on the extra credit grant program. It's gotten a good bit of attention, and rightfully so. But first I'd like to say thank you to our the states of professional educators who are today and every day going above and beyond in a very difficult situation brought on by conflicting directives from the executive branch on conflicting messages from administrations across the state during our last recession to Democrats fired teachers and cut their salaries. Thankfully, we are not having to do that because of responsible budgeting decisions that have been made over the past sessions. I wish Governor Cooper had not vetoed the teacher pay raises that we passed last year, but he did. And so here we are also wish that Governor Cooper had used the $95 million that he had in discretionary federal monies to give teachers a bonus he didn't on eso. We are here today. It's important to note that every parent in the state of North Carolina is also a teacher, not a teacher's assistant, a teacher. Nobody can honestly say that virtual learning is adequate, and parents who are filling the breach are doing a great job. Frankly, I don't understand how a single parent can really do this. When my kids were young a long time ago, I paint a department at night while I was in law school. Fortunately, my wife was able to shoulder a great deal of the responsibility for looking after our kids while I was either in school or working. How a single mother handles that working, parenting and teaching all the same time is is amazing to me. I don't know where she finds the time. I don't know when she sleeps. I can't tell you the answer to that question. Parents across the state of North Carolina are at their wits end. I know $335. It's gonna pay off a mortgage, but it will put a dent in the cost of electronic devices or help pay for a tutor. If a child can't seem to tackle in new concept. Or maybe it will pay for a baby sitter and a dinner. I'll I really am not worried about how packed parents will spend that $335. All I know is they need it. They deserve it. And what better use of taxpayer dollars than to return that money to the parents, many of whom actually sent the money to the state to begin with or sent the money to begin with? And I'll just say a few words on a related topic. And that's opportunity scholarships. Most public school students cannot get into their classrooms. Some places, like Durham, are actually charging low income families for the privilege of entering a school bill building to help with virtual learning. The science is clear. Science is overwhelming. Keeping kids out of classrooms is harmful, and some students may never recover. That's not a hypothesis or a theory. Some students will not recover. So now, more than ever should be a time when, like parents, leaders in North Carolina embrace parental school choice. I think about that single mother. Maybe she can see her child slipping, not grasping concept, maybe she knows intuitive that her child needs to be in a classroom. Why shouldn't she have the opportunity to send her child to a school that's open? Yesterday? Senate Democrats said there are quote, better, smarter uses for Opportunity Scholarship Fund. And they've said our proposal is for war, and this is the term they use special interest on Lee. A Democrat would think that our states, parents and Children or a special interest How can it be that in a society focused on equality, it is OK for a major political party to say making decisions about your child's education is reserved only for the wealthy elite School choice should not be a privilege available on Lee to those who can afford it. Parental school choice is a right, and we need to fund it. That will take your questions. And if I have trouble seeing functions because these lights are pretty Oh yeah, yeah, folks, we're talking about how economic conditions state. I'm sorry. Revenue, fiscal picture take up shaping other states. But may we were told that there was going to be a basic to half a million dollars less money this fiscal year, and then you also were expected to get some backfilled from Washington with Kobe money, and that's dried up. Are you still concerned that just may not be enough rather than being today to do things that you want to do, or at least you have directed sake of performance? So, Gary, I think kind of the untold story out there is that the state budget is moving along, funded at the previous year's level, plus some adjustments that we were able to make. We have not have had to engage in any kind of widespread reduction of funding to various departments. We've not seen a layoff of state employees or teachers. While the reduction in revenue is a concern in many respects, that reduction in revenue has resulted in our inability to go forward with some some capital projects and some other things of that nature. It's also been problematic as faras in the other expansion. As far as the state is concerned, however, we are extremely fortunate in North Carolina because of the decisions that have been made over the past 10 years, the responsible budgeting decisions, the willingness of the majority to salt away some funds to make sure that when we had some problems, we are able to handle that. So, yes, I am concerned. I think our members are concerned about the revenue picture. I think that uncertainty is something that limits our ability to do expansions, even expansions that we may want to do on. I think that's the major consequence. Follow shorts. What is the level? Is it a priority for you for more to have? Congress provides that the Department of Transportation money can't be used now there's a local government money as well. But is that Is that something that's really that you still consider a top priority that converts acting that it would be helpful if Congress were to forward additional revenue for things that that involved highways, transportation, that sort of thing? Obviously, if more dollars air coming, well, we'll follow whatever the federal guidelines are, as far as the use of those dollars, I'm just saying that we are able to manage our budget without the kinds of reductions that you have seen in the past in North Carolina because of the decisions that were made over the years, I mentioned one other thing. That's that we're also mindful of right now that we're working on over and trying to see if we can get there. We I was here the other week when the second round of violence happened, and I guess you would say some water rights. We've seen a lot of unrest around the country, and certainly I know we all support the lot with protest that that's fine. But some of the wall businesses that has gotten out of hand and riots and law enforcement, many cases actually being directed to stand down is absolutely unaccepted. And I can tell you that that's something that we're talking about. It's well, the confident, depending on the this is a very short period, two days a session don't know what will be able to get done if anything. But we're here more and more folks around the country and around the state talking about the fact that there generally fearful of their of their safe, and you have so many on the left that are talking about the funding the police and doing all these things absolutely make no sense. And I can tell you that if you look at this legislation, of course there's funding and there to make sure that that our law enforcement community has the public protective equipment they need, that the resources are there. And if you look at our budgets that we've prioritised, we have invested in making sure that funds were out there for law enforcement. We've been frustrated with some of the things that happened in the executive branch, where somewhere law enforcement communities felt like they have not been provided. Some of the resource is they needed in some of our cities that police are not being allowed to disperse crowds whenever properties being destroyed. And everyone in this room I see from a number of the faces I see covered the destruction of downtown Raleigh. You know, you get you want just a few blocks from here Right now, buildings are still boarded up. We finally saw the boards coming down the other over the last few weeks. And then what happened last week? They had to be boarded back up again. We cannot allow lawlessness. We need to allow the protection First Amendment expression of speech. We need to allow that, but I'm gonna reiterate again calls on the governor to make sure that the governors, the governor and the mayor of the city followed the walls that we've already passed, and we've already enacted to make sure that property is protected to make sure lives are protected. And to make sure that what we have and the discourse of discussion out there and protecting the rights to protest the First Amendment that we do maintain Mr Speaker, actually follow up on that. First listen, Peoria. What are you trying to do something, David? What did you have in mind to do? That Legislature could do that. Teoh accomplished. So we were discussing a number of things again. It's just it may be a pure time issue at this point. Tax. You see this achieved in these next two days? Primary folks, this is. But everyone has been affected and really impacted by what we're seeing with threat to public safety. There's talks about, for example, having like if someone's out committing a felony during a riot. Right now, I do like a 48 hour hold like we do in domestic violence cases, kind of cool down period, and that's something I think is a great idea, subjecting them to civil liability for going out, destroying somebody's property, triple damages and punitive damages. There were plenty of state troopers guarding the governor's mansion. But where were people guarding these people's businesses that were getting destroyed down here, many of which were not even covered by insurance because of the ride exception and write books? Matter of fact, we didn't have that. We had to rely on our general simply police to protect this bill on. I mean and that's you. There's a there's a lot to it. And I think the citizens of this state expect to know that that Walls were gonna be enforcing, that they're gonna be protected back to my original question. OK, so assuming that Congress does not come out, he's here. Do you anticipate coming back here again at some point this year? Deal with the revised revenue picture for you? It is a big that. Wait until next. I think our intention. This points to adjourn When we adjourned this week that we're adjourned for the year. Let's film to come back. No, I didn't think so. That is the Senate just passed modification of the German resolution that calls for signing tomorrow, which is consistent with resolution that was about the biggest, the biggest. The most critical issue right now to deal with is making sure that we purpose those federal dollars. Now, we spent a center burger, pointed out we put 300 million TNT, roughly 1 $51 million to the capital projects there, things that we want to see done. But without that additional flexibility, if we didn't bring that back in and re purposes, we were simply would have lost that money. So that's been the focus of that. And then, really, we left a lot of money on the table because we knew we knew full well when we were doing this. They're gonna be things that come up between now and some point later that we're gonna have to feel in. So my appreciation to the Senate team and our team really are Folks are appropriations chairs who spoke yesterday, really work together and did a lot of heavy lift. They were here many more hours, and we were on and put together a great package that again, I hope passion and speaker after work was spectrum news. One want to go back to the unrest issue this morning at the House select Committee on Law Enforcement Community Relations. Criminal justice had its first meeting. What do you want to see come out of that? And will you commit at this point to prioritizing whatever recommendations they come up with? Absolutely. I want that committee to continue its work. They had their first meeting today, and I don't want to Presuppose anything. I want to see what comes out as a result of that committee. We have members of the public you have. You have folks that would be considered community activists that remember, you have members from the law enforcement community there, a number of folks to get varying opinions to get a discussion going. And I think that's the key. I want to see a discussion. I want to see if there's a lot of issues that we need to talk about deal with. But there has to be a balance between doing that and an orderly and awful way we don't need. We don't need people being injured property being destroyed in the process. Questions for both of you gearing up on a budget with revenue forecast being laid off factory, can you tell me more? About $325 and then, with about schools pre opening a person and about your space with more businesses, what do you think this local you talk about? But what about the city of Raleigh? First, you have school boards, everything that decided much planning. So with with reference Teoh revenue, we have a consensus revenue forecast that it appears that as the dollar's air coming in that we are going to be able to meet that consensus forecasts. And it includes reduction in proposed or expected revenues that Gary Robertson alluded to in his question. It is possible that as WeII, get more information about how much the economy is opened and what our own growing revenue picture is, that that number will need to be revised and it's a little too early. Teoh know exactly what that revision should be at this point. Are fiscal staff. Nonpartisan fiscal staff basically has indicated to us that they need to see the final numbers from August. They need Teoh have an opportunity to analyze those numbers. They may be able to give us a revised forecast by the end of September, or maybe in early October, but that may not happen either. A lot of it's going to depend on what what the numbers look like. But if they see a kind of a steady stream, as far as revenue is concerned, even if it's at a lower level, I think we'll have an ability to have some confidence as far as what, what the revenues are in an on going basis. The last thing we want to do is appropriate dollars that we have to come back later. And so I ups we. We don't have enough money to cover that on. So that's that's the way the Democrats did it in 8 4009. That's not the way we intend to do it. With reference to the $325 I am told that that number is actually grossed up 2 $335. I think there may very well be an amendment to toe match that number with what we expect the dollars available to be. My understanding is that what will happen is any individual or folks filing jointly that own their tax return on their most recent tax return had a child that would be 17 or under would be eligible to receive a check for $335 to have one child to Children. Three Children be $335. If folks did not file a return, then there will be an application process that people can utilize in order to to to apply for and receive that $335 our staff has estimated. How many families are four units there would be that would have minor Children with reference to the schools or with reference to local governments. You know, I think I agree with what the speaker said about problems in the executive in that I would understand the executive, the not just the Cooper administration, but the executives in the various counties and municipalities who have, from all we can see, directed their law enforcement folks to stand down and not enforce the law. I don't see how you could draw any other conclusion, and that's what was done when you see police officers, highway patrolman, other law enforcement standing while folks go in and out of CVS drugstore carrying items, setting fires and you see other things like that with reference to the local schools, I think you're right. That that the local schools had a limited a set of options that was set by the governor as to what they could do on I believe it. It starts and ends as faras the decisions that were made in the executive branch in North Carolina because those are the rules that were set that the schools had to follow. And so within the confines of those rules, they made the decisions that they may. I I would think that some could have opened the schools up even more, but they were prohibited, as I understand it, from having folks full time in school as a result of the governor's award. So I think it is for us folks around the state that have concerns about what's happening is for Children not being in the classroom. I think that it's solely Governor Cooper's responsibility. Look, parents teachers wouldn't want because state planner with that, they direct that to so again. If it were, if we're up to me through the local boards, should have had the ability Teoh open the schools up and allow parents to decide whether they want their Children in in school full time or whether they want them to be taught remote. And under those circumstances, I think you would. I think you'd see the vast majority of parents opting for the Children to be in the classroom If you have employees within the school system who are particularly at risk as far as the virus is concerned, I believe the local administrative units could could could assign those teachers and those administrators to a deal with the portion of their students that Joe's remote morning I I am hearing all sorts of stories from teachers about the chaos that is that is in place in the local systems Now, as a result of some of these decisions have been made, and it didn't have to be that follow up on that as well. Monthly Sons air in college. Right now, they'll be able that while it's not ideal, they'll they'll be able to have a learnt through a virtual platform. But you know, we've talked about for years. On There's Something center burgers worked on is about making sure these kids, but can read by the time they leave third grade. In those years, any of you who are parents, grand parents have just been around kids in the amount I have no Children at that young age to imagine just trying to get them to sit there and look at a screen all those hours with a parent or grandparent, Whoever is there to help them, that's a real challenge. And I'm really worried that we're we're losing a whole group of Children who are not gonna be able to be where they need to be great level. And if they can't read by the time they get out of third grade, they're gonna be there, going to be hamstrung, the rest their life. They're going to be delayed and getting things done. So of course we've invested it's remedial education with our first round. We know we're gonna have to do that. But I agree with the eye center burger. I think that and what I'm hearing when I talked to Law school District says they feel like the way the governor came down with his executive order. It really tied their hands. They could not be creative and doing things when it comes to those employees you asked about who may be fearful, working actually, under the federal Wall into the F. M L. A is, I understand they're allowed. They're allowed to be out of work and still get paid. So that's taking care of his well with a lot of teachers. He's gotten calls I've got because a lot of teachers want to be there in the classroom teaching. They're teaching the Children. They believe they need that instruction instructional time. And I think this has shown the example. While this this is Exhibit A of where opportunity scholarships can work because this allows an opportunity for families who could not otherwise afford an option, they would have to They would have no other option other than to try to stay home and teach their teach their child of their Children with the opportunity scholarships. They now will be able to actually have some other options to make sure their kids can get an education. So this is Exhibit A of why this is needed, and I think what we're hearing A. I don't know about center murder, but I'm here from a lot more folks who used to never talk about it. We're talking about this a lot because they see an opportunity that their Children actually will be able to get an in person education that many of them are going to need. Quick follow about Downtown SE rallies were running the way. Also, I think there's no I think it could have been done better. And I think frankly, if you ask all the folks in city government wrong, they say they could have done better. It's really a shame that for property to have been protected here the other last week that these folks had to get aboard their businesses back up, that they had no assurance that law enforcement would be in power to be able to do something when folks destroyed property. But I saw this first, and I was watching and seeing folks who went in and trying to trying to burn the CVS down, which of course above it had offices. But that isn't even wrong, you know, you get the D. G X. They tried to start a fire. What's above the D G X apartments, people who were there inside apartments. You have more more folks living downtown. It's more more residential, and so someone goes and starts. A fire is allowed to bust a win to start a fire on the bottom floor. What happens to the folks who are living upstairs? And I think our law enforcement they didn't. My understanding. What I've heard frankly from someone is that they were not allowed to go in and arrest us. They were told to stand down. They were not permitted to do it. And if you talk the law enforcement professionals, they say what you do when someone starts smashing windows, you start arresting him after your arrest. If you do this, it generally stops. But if you don't, if you just allow it to happen, if you just allow folks to go out, assault people to go up, tear tear property up and you do nothing but watch the consequence. And I'll tell you, I think that these business owners all to be able to have get civil damages against those who going out there and destroyed their property. I mean, it's just it's hard to believe it's just hard to believe that I had so many people who have lived in Raleigh. All their wives say I don't even recognize the city right now. Wow, this this destruction happened and if you look at all the resource is that were put in to developing this entire this amazing city. It's a great capital city. I'm proud of this city, but I want to see the destruction that happened. And now I think Raleigh's downtown is now 80% in terms of revenue a lot. That's kind of a bit of law. That's because of the destructions down there. And if you go if you leave this building right now, those who are watching this right now if you come to run and drive downtown, you're gonna go around, seal a lot of businesses, maybe even most business right now boarded up because they're worried about somebody coming to smash the windows. And we deserve better than that. I think my quest, um, morning from some advocates who are worried about some of deregulation but no, for example, allowing for more flexibility for child care centers, for example, but not having safeguards in place like ground checks. Having someone on who were doing the compliment learning centers, having your training as schools and other child care. Also appearing that there's some language bill that would allow bad actors most licences Liszt easily. You don't care stay so wondering, Juan does why you felt like these things necessary now whether might be open to making some of these things a little tighter. So language that that send these bills actually came from advocates for folks who are worried about access to care when it comes to the folks who were elderly or disabled. There are some administrative and regulatory birds that, frankly, were preventing facilities from being able to open. So the folks who have actually asked for this language are folks who actually in this business of providing these services to folks. So there are other walls and guidelines that restrict who could be there, who can provide care. And, of course, if some, if some employer of some facility goes out here and hire somebody, they shouldn't they're gonna be exposed to civil liabilities like we're pretty litigious society, right? I mean, there, if they've got someone in that need to be, there are other walls on the books that already deal with this. But the issue we were running into, and that we were hearing about was that you had facilities that were trying to actually take care of those who need to be taken care of and because of bureaucratic red tape, were being delayed additional matters. And so we're trying to cut through that so that folks give access to the service. Look, I'm looking at it. Donny Lamberth, who seeded out there in the audience who is a former president Wake Forest, Badghis hospital, right, who probably knows more about health care than anybody else in this built the policies that we put in this legislation actually things there that have been asked for by those in health care and have been looked at invented by those who have spent in many times most of their lives working in health care, not appear just talking about it, but actually review their boots on the ground, taking care of those who need to be taken care of. So, speaking of health care, in fact, that you talked about, uh, need not be dollars table, Ask it. Medicaid expansion would allow for not having to spend state dollars on health care and using federal dollars while at the same time not having any state dollars This so why not go for it, especially at a time so way have talked multiple times about the policy choice dealing with Medicaid expansion there. There are a a number of reasons that Medicaid expansion is not the right answer for North Carolina. You and I talked about that, and I've talked. Let me let me finish answering questions. The money that we've received from the federal government in some of the money that's previously been appropriated deals with a lot of the additional problems that have come up and are anticipated as a result of the Corona virus way have appropriated that tens of millions of dollars to deal with some of those issues. The federal government has sent hundreds of millions of dollars to the state of North Carolina to deal with that. This is not the time for us to take on a new program with the expense of the new program, all at a time when, when we are just now trying to get Department of Health and Human Services not only to deal with Corona virus but to deal with a major shift in how we deal with our current Medicaid population. So now is not the time. It is not the right policy, in my view, but I certainly understand some folks who have been agitating I advocating for expansion a long time would continue Teoh see this crisis as an opportunity to move forward with something that's been rejected multiple times. So you could use some of your other least pressure accepting. And I mean, what do you know that used in 38 states? I'm not going to get into a specific debate that you and I have already had multiple times about the policy choices that exist with reference to Medicaid expansion. I know that you and your publication have been strong advocates for expanding Medicaid, and you have your reasons for that. I can accept that some people view things different leaving then I do. I am just saying that now is not the right time. Monies have been sent to North Carolina from the federal government, and the state of North Carolina has appropriated money to deal with the virus. I'm sure that when session starts next year, there will be another opportunity for folks to debate and discuss the question of Medicaid expansion. I got a question last asked for about $350 back to school safely. You know you are not alone and I'm gonna apologize. I am not familiar with the specifics. A two point I could get back to you. We can have someone on our appropriations thing. Try to get you an answer that I apologize that I'm unable to do that. I can. I guess it some things, but I don't want to do that. I will point out there are additional. There are additional dollars that have that have been sent to the state because I understand have not actually been sent out to the individual school district yet that is still being held at the state DP eye level. And so that's going to provide for But we did appropriate additional sums here for four pp for the school. So for K 12 for example, we did an additional $27 million for PP. For public schools alone, there was money for the additional money for the community colleges that was moved money for the for you. And see, I think that was roughly another $20 million there as well. And then there was there were the other funds that again have not been spent. And I think it's important. Understand this the funds that we've already appropriated previously. Incentive. The agencies they haven't spent on lovage. And so my understanding is a lot of that PP money is in there. So when I discussed this back with with school folks, it seemed to it seemed to get to be what was so that question and that's the first I've heard of that, but I think we'll look into it. But my understanding was actually between round one and this that they were. Are you referring to the consent order? Is that what you're talking about or okay, just from the last all out, several needs that they have just asking. Look, we're spirit. We're spending roughly another billion dollars and we're spending all of the federal money that we have. I mean, it's all being spent right now, and so it's it's going there, and it's being spent wisely. But you're gonna have agencies that come up and say we could use more. We could doom. Or but we have to spend with what with what we have. And so we've gone through it really prioritised. There's a lot of work. The center burger and I get to come in here and do it, do a press conference like this and talk about it and get through it. But there have been weeks and weeks of work that our appropriations chairs, along with our staff, have been taking a really significant deep dive into finding out what those needs. Are you re just getting into it and see talking with superintendents, principals, teachers, you name it to see what's out there and try to come in with something that that's that's finally to And I know there was some criticism the Democrats made about about teacher pay. Look, the first round we passed there was, what, $95 million.95 million dollars and generally unrestricted federal funds where if the governor wanted to give teachers a bonus, he could have done and in fact, in our code legislation way encourage the governor to do so? Because if you look at all of the other covert funds, you really were constrained and you weren't able to use those funds in that way. But that $95 million was there. So if teachers were upset about not getting a bonus, they said, we need to call government, and actually on that $95 million. It's really instructive how the governor used some of that money. Basically, hired people used one time money to hire people. And so at some point someone's gonna have to come up with additional money on a recurring basis. Teoh to deal with that or those folks are going to lose their jobs. And so I think it's It's just indicative of how Governor Cooper, his his budget director and the Democrats have in the past handled budgeting in a recessionary cycle. They have taken one time money and put it into your new programs, or put it into things that have a recurring obligation. It's irresponsible for them to have done Mr Speaker. Rep. Louis is no longer here. I want to review. When did you hear that he was speaking to federal investigators? Did they ever reach out? You. You ever You, by the U. S. Attorney's office of the FBI, I was never interviewed by anyone, and hearing about that was just a matter of days before everyone else. There's a company called which is going to be delivering back scenes eventually that big contract federal government. This is the administration of a letter that said Hey, you look out for request from them and please, whatever regulations you wait for it separates what I'm asking is, Is there any language that's needed? I don't see any in the bill, but is there any language that's needed to pave that highway for vaccine storage? I received an ask for anything like that, but I would say anything that what What we've tried to do through this and regulatory reform is to try to get rid of artificial barriers when it comes to delivering assistance to folks in the state s asst. Part of North Carolina being a keep component and seeing the hopefully the cure to this this virus, I would say anything we can do in power are companies here to be able to provide that we ought to do. But I haven't received a specific ask as far as you think needs to be done. State and then just one more. No bond money in this, like the governor wanted in the house. That logic polls here. Correct me if I'm wrong without that, what's going Guns for moving Jesse's headquarters? Is that something that you wait until next year? Course I've been an advocate of bonds, but this is not there's. We can't pass a bond right now to be on the November ballot, so there's no need. There's just no need to do that right now. I hope that something that will be able to revisit when we come back in session next year, I believe bonds are a great way to finance our obligations. I think we need to look at it when it comes, particularly transportation. But that's way made a tribe that we weren't able to get an agreement this year on it. But that's this point. This stage of the game. Everyone knows you can't can't get a Bond bill on November's ballot. This year, ballots have already been printed, but with something that will take a look at next year and give the voters a chance to decide. But that'll that would be a conversation for the 2021 session, not this week. Just moving the chest and they hit whatever time tables give here. Some in ST it it may be necessary for that timetable, Teoh be modified. The reality is that we, even even if we were to go forward with bond money would not be available until well after the votes of place did require. And we have generally been opposed to any long term borrowing by the state that is not subject to a okay from the people of the state again, that's another tactic that the Democrats used that got us in trouble. The last time is going out in borrowing money without giving the people of the state and opportunity to say yes or no Blue state earlier criticizing some of the line items in this bill as the Republican pork projects going to get you to respond to that love rationale for singling out a specific counties specific nonprofits for funding versus doing across the board for certain types of entities. So Assault Center Blue statement Didn't I noted he didn't itemize those things that he considered the individual pork projects? I think we sent a press release out just a little bit ago, highlighting the things in the budget. I think better than 80% of the things he's complaining about are things that were asked for by the governor proposed by the governor in his proposal. So, you know, if if holding harmless sewn 80 Emmett Support project. I let him explain how that is, if if some of the other funding that's in there particularly, I think the Gaston County and I think it's contol the county community college. That's something the governor had proposed as well. So I think there are times when when press releases go out, statements go out where someone is just trying to get a quote in the newspaper. And, uh uh, I just don't accept that criticisms. Being a battle cruiser, just a single specific product, that $100,000 to pull J. Senior The reason for doing something that specific for a specific problem? I don't I don't know where that is. But I could tell you what if you look at the money that was going to the various what they call friends organizations, these air groups that, like the friends of the Friends of the State Parks, Friends of the Music of the Art Museum, say, Fourth, There were areas there where we knew those entities had been significantly impacted by kind of a lot of the receipt receipt supported, so we wanted to make sure that those things when the when the funds went out that they were specifically mentioned because those folks that had, I guess, reached out various members eat of the center of the house and raised his concerns. For example, the Walls Colony. There's money that goes to find that operation, that that is a huge tour straw for north eastern North Carolina, and they've been unable to place now for several months. And so they're they're losing money. So there's something to try to help keep these things afloat because they're certain institutions in this state that help tell this state's toward, and you don't want them to just go away as a result of cave in 19 and a lot of investments been made by government individuals for decades. And so we want to make sure those those entities were taking care of. I think maybe the battleship North Carolina was even one of them. So that which will be visited by our president tomorrow. You give that person for Democrats. If you were to see a party line vote in a veto, this bill by Governor Cooper is there. Room for negotiations went forward with Sonny died. Does that mean it's a repeat of last year's budget and it just game over for spending. Of course, it's it would it would be a signing diamond. It would require a new special session for that. But it's like any other piece of legislation. If I look, if I look at a billion dollar spending bill, there's probably areas in there that that I don't necessarily that maybe I wouldn't prioritize. Center Burger would probably take the same position, But this is a result of compromise between members from around the state on from folks who are from both the chambers sent in the House and, frankly, the Democrats that they participated in his well. So it's a it's a part of legislative compromises there. So you don't What's the old saying? Don't let the don't let the good the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I realized I'll get tired. So people short but just actually asked that question. What we're hearing from House and Senate Democrats and Governor Conference administration is that they were not involved this, so why not in the other cool, It will seem to be very much partisan. This one, not so much. Can you expound on that? A little bit and specifically inclusion of the shut up sorry opportunity voucher stuff. It doesn't look like any dollars were being actually earmarked for that program. It looks like it's existing funds. So why? But it into that bill is opposed to letting that be a free spirit. Let me speak to the bipartisanship we many of the ideas that are. In fact, I would say most of the money that's being funded through this bill are things that came out as a result of the bipartisan Kevin committees that met earlier in the year and where we simply weren't eight in a position to fund all those things. So most of the funding came there, right? I mean, that's where most of this money went when it comes to involvement I dealt with, and I know that our budget chairs dealt with a number of Democrats who had expressed an interest in being involved. Look, this is this is an election year and no surprise that Democratic members, many of them who who are in different positions we won't have to throw rocks at something because it's a Republican majority Bill I get. This is an election year, but what I am hopeful that on this bill that the Democrats can put partisanship aside and vote for this great legislation. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all very much.