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As ‘60 Minutes’ Prepares Stormy Daniels Interview, Lawyers Battle

The CBS News program “60 Minutes” was moving forward with plans to show an interview it conducted last week with the pornographic film actress who says she had an affair with Donald Trump as her lawyer and a lawyer for the president traded public jabs through the weekend over her right to speak.

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JIM RUTENBERG
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MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM, New York Times

The CBS News program “60 Minutes” was moving forward with plans to show an interview it conducted last week with the pornographic film actress who says she had an affair with Donald Trump as her lawyer and a lawyer for the president traded public jabs through the weekend over her right to speak.

The porn star, Stephanie Clifford, spoke with the “60 Minutes” contributor Anderson Cooper late last week. She did so despite an arbitrator’s ruling reaffirming an agreement she reached with Trump in October 2016 to remain silent about their alleged relationship — which she said started in 2006 and lasted several months — in exchange for $130,000.

The “60 Minutes” interview raised the prospect that Trump’s personal attorney and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, would seek an injunction stopping CBS from airing the segment, which does not yet have a scheduled broadcast date. But as of Sunday night CBS had not received any legal threat. Cohen did not immediately respond to questions on Sunday.

With the “60 Minutes” interview and a series of tweets from Clifford’s lawyer, Michael Avenatti, taunting Cohen last week, the actress and her lawyer were pursuing an aggressive strategy to pressure the president. Their goal: releasing Clifford, who goes by the stage name Stormy Daniels, from her agreement.

In an interview Sunday, Avenatti indicated that the publicity blitz was not likely to let up any time soon, ensuring that the story Cohen paid to go away some 17 months ago would continue to churn.

“Our aim and our messaging is very simple: We’re going to shoot straight, we’re going to provide evidence and facts, and we are going to consistently advocate for the American people being able to make their own decisions as to who’s telling the truth and who’s lying to them,” Avenatti said. “She wants a forum to tell her version of events and let the chips fall where they may.”

The campaign was not without its risks, legal and otherwise. Avenatti said he was assigning 24-hour security to Clifford after a car followed her after a dance performance at a Florida strip club this weekend.

He first hinted that there was a “60 Minutes” interview himself on Thursday, when he posted a tweet featuring a photograph of him, Clifford and Cooper without comment.

Avenatti has made adroit use of the news media a selling point for his Los Angeles-area practice. “Michael often works closely with the press and media,” his website reports. It cites cases he has brought against the National Football League, Paris Hilton and Jim Carrey, as well as previous appearances on “60 Minutes.” (One involved a case against Kimberly-Clark and Halyard Health for claims their surgical gowns protected against Ebola and other diseases in which he won a $454 million fraud verdict last year; the other involved alleged violations by cemetery operators.)

Clifford hired Avenatti a couple of weeks ago. (She was previously represented by another California attorney, Keith Davidson.) Within days Avenatti prepared to challenge the deal — which stipulated that disagreements would be argued in secret before a confidential arbitrator — arguing it was not valid because Trump did not sign it. (In an interview Sunday, Avenatti pointed to a clause that said the agreement was “valid and binding” when “signed by all parties.”)

A suit that Avenatti filed Tuesday evening in Los Angeles County Superior Court included a nugget of news: Trump’s lawyer had initiated “a bogus arbitration proceeding” against Clifford to “shut her up.”

That appeared to force an error at the White House the next day, when the president’s press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who had been avoiding engagement in Clifford’s story, said that an arbitration proceeding “was won in the president’s favor.” That led to news that Cohen had acquired a temporary restraining order against Clifford in late February.

Avenatti has been a regular presence on television, arguing that the restraining order and the original deal are both legally flawed, and making allegations aimed at undermining Cohen and Trump.

For instance, on Friday, Avenatti shared with NBC News and then ABC News that Cohen had conducted some negotiations with Clifford in 2016 on his Trump Organization email account. That, Avenatti told NBC, was at variance with Cohen’s previous statement that neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign were “party to” the agreement with Clifford. Avenatti also suggested that the email cast doubt on Cohen’s assertion that he paid Clifford out of his own pocket.

Whether Trump ever reimbursed Cohen, and the extent to which he struck the deal in consultation with Trump, goes to the center of complaints the watchdog group Common Cause has made to the Federal Election Commission and the Justice Department alleging that the payment was an illegal campaign contribution.

After Avenatti’s comments, Cohen broke his relative silence about the case by telling ABC News that he drew on his own home equity line of credit to secure the $130,000 for Clifford. And The Washington Post quoted him over the weekend as saying, “Mr. Avenatti’s actions and behavior has been both reckless and imprudent as it opens Ms. Clifford to substantial monetary liability, which I intend to pursue.”

Avenatti answered with a Twitter message Saturday taunting Cohen by asking on whose behalf he would pursue the financial penalty, given the absence of Trump’s signature on the October contract.

This time, Cohen did not respond.

But Cohen’s most important next moves may be his response to Clifford’s suit, as well as any action he may take to try to block “60 Minutes,” which could create a major First Amendment standoff. CBS had no comment Sunday.

A person familiar with the network’s preparations said “60 Minutes” had not received notice of a legal action in relation to the interview with Clifford. Producers at “60 Minutes” are preparing the segment, a process that often includes a legal review and fact-checking.

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