Crossing Borders: Immigration and Division in North Carolina
I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear
I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear
First I will declare a national emergency at our southern
border
Securing the border without actually fixing our broken immigration system
is dealing with the symptom and not the disease
Entering this country illegally is a crime and we're not
going to forgive it
We hear that from the Trump administration every single day
and it is not true
Being here as an undocumented person is not
I was
straight to the camera is not a crime
Immigration is one of the most talked about issues of
2025 across the country
This morning an escalating crackdown nationwide
Bain was stolen from us by a savage illegal alien
gang member who was arrested while trespassing across Biden's open
southern border
And in North Carolina when you come over here to
study suddenly you wake up one morning and your visa
is ripped away for no reason
That's what happened to two NC State students late last
week
NC Department of Commerce estimates that 1 in 4 construction
workers in our state is undocumented and I resent the
fact that
The Trump administration talks about they're bringing their rapists they're
bringing their criminals is that who put your roof on
a team of rapists on top of your roof or
who picked your vegetables I don't think so
It's clear that the voters of this state and uh
and really across the country are ready to stop the
the lawless illegal immigration in this country
Immigrants are what makes North Carolina great
There are more than 1 million immigrants in North Carolina
9.3% of the state's population and an estimated 325,000 are
undocumented
The WREL documentary team set out to understand how federal
and state immigration policies are impacting the people of North
Carolina and I need them to understand that the pain
when the family is separated is strong
And that we have to stop somehow
Drug dealers or cartel members or gang members I don't
want them in Ames County
We're not criminal we're human beings we're like everybody we're
just not we're not criminals we're trying just to make
you know a better living the US good you know
US citizen
They already had a criminal past
Already been deported twice now they're back again now they
kill a law enforcement officer in the line of duty
How many senseless acts like this you definitely want to
know who's coming into your country
How this moment in time could impact the state forever
This is Crossing borders immigration and division in North Carolina
How many kids do you have How many grandkids How
many great grandkids I had 23 grandchilds and 5 grand
grandchilds and 5 children
Yolanda Zavala lives near almost all of her family members
She and her three daughters each have their own trailer
on the same street in rural Wade County
We're living here because it's a way to live together
So that my grandchildren know what family unity is and
to teach them what a typical Mexican family is where
we're together almost daily
How important is family to you It's everything for me
My family is everything
The most important thing I have
I remember in Mexico that it was for them that
I decided to come
Yolanda came to the US from Mexico illegally nearly 30
years ago
She brought her children with her including her son who
was just 5 at the time and my dream was
that they would study
That they would have a better life
There were days when we would go to bed without
eating
And I felt that it was not a dignified life
for my children
She built a life for all of them
She became a green card holder
She got a job finishing cabinets
Well she's my most productive employee and has been
Really since she got here and it's mainly because of
her work ethic and her discipline and her skills
While Yolanda was a legal permanent resident of the US
her son was still undocumented
When he was 18 he went out with friends
And tell me what happened that day
He went with his friends to play soccer and he
he never came back
He was arrested for driving without a license
Supposedly the tires were not were a little worn down
and that was like a danger to the community
I don't know how the judge saw it but that's
what they put that it was a danger to the
community
And I think one of the things was that he
also did not have a driver's license
I think that was the bigger crime
He was detained on a Sunday and I think that
on Monday the program 287G started that the immigrants who
were detained would be deported
287G is a federal program that allows state and local
law enforcement to partner with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials
and in some cases enforce immigration laws
Yolanda hired a lawyer and tried to visit him in
the detention center
I went with the hope that they would let me
see him but they didn't let me see him
They moved him to uh I think Alamance then Atlanta
and he was deported
Are you OK Why do you get emotional thinking about
it For me it's been difficult because my son was
18 years old
I think that I felt guilty for having brought him
to this country
I wanted to give them a good life
But I didn't think that my son would end up
in jail
After he was deported he stayed at the border
He didn't know anyone there
He came here when he was small
He came when he was like 5 years old
He didn't want to go with anyone
He said I don't know anyone Mom who do you
want me to go with Uh he was living on
the bridges for a while until he decided he wanted
to come back and he came back on his own
through the desert
Uh he didn't make it because he was caught again
He spent like another half year in jail
And he said I love you a lot mom but
I don't want to be in jail anymore
I'm going to stay in Mexico for a while
He was deported in 2008 but the pain has never
left
What was the toughest part you said Mother's Day
Tell me about Mother's Day
Those were not good days
It seemed like we always felt his absence
That chair was always empty
Yolanda's son was one of 23,000 people deported in Wake
and Mecklenburg counties from 2006 to 2018 when
Both counties ended their 287 agreements
However in late 2024 HB 10 passed which requires all
law enforcement agencies in North Carolina to cooperate with ICE
New state immigration laws and mass deportations by the Trump
administration has her family and community on edge
It's
It's difficult to live with fear
Every day we live with the fear that one of
us won't come back uh to the family
I don't don't understand
why they want to separate us
Why not give us the opportunity to be able to
um have a dignified life
I came to the United States a long time ago
I just live in a trailer
I don't have wealth but I have had work and
I have had food every day
I just asked them to touch their heart and to
not see us as numbers
Sometimes they treat us like criminals and we're not criminals
Ned is a rare person that truly lived a selfless
existence focused on others
You could reach out to Ned any time of day
for any reason he'd be there for you
You needed to move that was there all day
Had a flat tire at 3 o'clock in the morning
and I would be the first person to show up
to fix it for you
He was someone who would ask I would ask to
be a groomsman in my wedding
He was the man who would show up for 1
year old birthday parties
He'd come by in his cruiser bring stuffed animals to
my kids deputize them with a sticker
48-year-old Ned Bird was a Wake County sheriff's deputy for
13 years
Friends say he loved his canine partner Sasha jiujitsu and
singing Journey
Don't stop believing my journey because uh
He every time that song came on and I'm sure
anybody's been a car or working out with him he
built that song off tune terribly
I always told my wife if anything ever happens to
me and I'm not available called Ned
I knew Ned would do whatever it took to help
her out
It was a common occurrence for Ned to walk a
lady to her car if they were leaving a restaurant
or his favorite place logos
My name is Larry Carter
I'm the owner of Lola's here and uh I was
uh very very good friends with uh Ned Bird
Uh Deputy Ned Burke willing to help anybody at any
hour you know of the of the day or or
night
I remember one time I actually locked my keys in
my car twice in one night
And he helped uh come and unlock them both times
So are you getting emotional thinking about it a little
bit yeah
Yeah the senselessness of it you know the the craziness
of it like who would ever think something like this
would happen
Breaking news right now at 6 a.m. we learned in
just the past hour that a Wake County deputy has
been killed after an early morning shooting
It happened here apparently just after 11 o'clock overnight going
into the early morning hours
Wake County Sheriff Gerald Baker confirmed to us that the
deputy who died in the line of duty last night
is Deputy Ned Bird
13 year veteran of the sheriff's office
He was also a K-9 officer
Deputy Byrd was in this area outside of his car
checking on perhaps a suspicious vehicle he was not able
to radio for help after those shots were fired
The community was on high alert as law enforcement searched
for whoever did this
The massive manhunt for the person who killed Wake County
Deputy Ned Bird is in his 23rd hour
Wake County Sheriff's office released 4 new photos of a
white truck believed to be involved
Two men are in federal custody right now for questioning
in the investigation of the murder of Wake County Sheriff's
deputy Ned Bird
Brothers Alder and Arturo Maine Sotelo were arrested for the
murder of Ned Bird
These new documents say Deputy Byrd was on his way
to canine training when he noticed a suspicious vehicle
He went out to investigate and then seconds later 6
gunshots rang out
Deputies found Byrd dead hours later with multiple gunshot wounds
including one to the back of his head
According to warrants Arturo Marines
said the brothers went to hunt deer off Battle Bridge
Road while he was hunting in a field
He said he saw a police vehicle pull up near
the truck while his brother Alder was still inside
Arturo Marin Sotello said he then heard gunshots and saw
the truck drive away
What was going on that night so bad
That you had to ambush and kill uh a a
police officer a Wake County deputy like what were you
doing That was so bad like right when he walks
up to the car they ambush
The brothers are undocumented immigrants from Mexico
From my understanding they already had a criminal past already
been deported twice
Now they're back again
Now they kill a law enforcement officer in the line
of duty
You definitely want to know who's coming into your country
a country one of the brothers fled after he was
The FBI has joined the search for all their Marino
Tello still on the run after escaping from the Piedmont
Regional Jail in Farmville Virginia
He was finally captured 2400 miles away from North Carolina
He was caught in southern Mexico around 1 o'clock this
afternoon
How do you let somebody That murders a law enforcement
officer escape
How are they in a situation or position or taken
somewhere to some facility where they have the ability to
escape after they've killed a law enforcement officer in the
line of duty and now they run back to Mexico
Alder Marine Sotelo was in Mexico in prison until he
was extradited back to the US in February of 2025
where he'll go on trial
We're absolutely elated and glad that the guy's back and
that he can be held accountable and stand in front
of a court
I have friends that are like no no no everybody
that comes here is you know just looking for a
better way of life and I and I get that
there are and I I love that you know but
you have to realize that there's also very bad actors
right if they get here and they are bad actors
and they are gonna do bad things and this is
the exact evidence of that these are the things that
happen right Ned's picture is up at Lola's his favorite
bar
The stool where he sat has his name on it
There's a flag in another picture of him on the
wall
Here's the picture that was taken during Ned's funeral procession
that was coming down Glenwood Avenue
The entire community came out for his funeral led by
his canine partner Sasha
They even played his favorite song at the service
It takes a uh takes a special man to get
Journey played in church you know what I mean Many
people in this room thought of Ned as their best
friend
You're right he was
His best friend also had a moment to say goodbye
jumping up onto the casket
So Sasha
Um I know you can't understand this girl but If
you can understand anything now how much
He loved you
So Ned our friend her brother
Colleague And our hero
You knew that you would willingly give everything for any
of us without second thought or hesitation
We just never thought you'd have to
What do you think this shows in relation to immigration
It shows we have a major problem
I think that we are just seeing massive cruelty and
we're seeing that in a mainstream way
I will stop the invasion of criminals from the campaign
trail to his first day in office President Trump promised
big changes to immigration enforcement in 2025
Tom Holman was named B czar
Illegal crossings down 95%
ICE has arrested over 21,000 people in the nation
We had about 1800 a day in 2023
We had yesterday 48
Leave now
If you don't we will find you and we will
deport you
Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Christy Noham put
out commercials telling people to self-deport
She visited a prison in El Salvador where hundreds of
Venezuelan migrants have been sent after getting deported from the
US
The Trump administration claims they are part of the Trende
Aragua gang
If you come to our country illegally this is one
of the consequences
Advocates like Nikki Marin Baena of Simra and C knew
things would be different
How would you describe this moment in time right now
I think that we are just seeing massive cruelty and
we're seeing that in a mainstream way
And so for example the White House put up a
post for Valentine's Day that was
Kind of roses are red violets are blue
I can't remember the whole thing but it was like
a joke about deporting illegal people
I can't remember ever in the past seeing so many
kind of memes and jokes about deporting illegals in a
in a mainstream way
Now we're getting a question
Well you said you're going to concentrate on public safety
threats and national security threats but you're arrested no criminals
Yeah damn right we did
Because you're in the country legally which happens to be
a violation of our law entering this country illegally is
a crime and we're not going to forgive it
According to the American Immigration Council physical presence in the
United States without proper authorization is a civil violation rather
than a criminal offense
It becomes a criminal offense if someone has previously been
ordered deported and re-entered in violation
Of the deportation order and I think what a lot
of people don't understand is that for this administration being
an immigrant they're trying to make that being a criminal
even if that's not actually true uh being here in
the US as an undocumented person is a violation of
administrative law not criminal law and so what a lot
of people think is well it's OK like I don't
have papers but
I've never done anything wrong and a lot of people
put a lot of pressure on themselves and their families
so look if we're just here and we just go
to work we just go to school we do everything
right we'll be OK
But unfortunately that's not true
Already in the detentions that we've seen so far in
this administration many of them have been of people who
had no criminal records at all
There has been controversy after ICE deported
Maryland man to El Salvador
A federal judge ordered the US government to return a
man that was sent to El Salvador because of what
the Trump administration called an administrative error
The Trump administration has alleged Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an
MS-13 gang member something his family and attorneys deny
theory
If what you're saying is we're going to deport all
of the criminals we're going to deport all of these
people who are doing bad stuff in our communities you're
talking about Lake and Riley who's gonna say that they
don't want that I what I know because I've been
doing this work for a long time is that they're
not gonna stick to just the violent criminals
Uh that's not how you get the kinds of numbers
that you wanna be able to boast about
She says it's happening to North Carolina families too
What I ask is for compassion
We are human beings
We are not criminals
We are not bad people
35 year old Cynthia Bautista shared her story at a
news conference organized by Simbra NC in Raleigh
We come from Mexico we've been here 2 years
Cynthia is one of an estimated 20,000 DACA recipients in
North Carolina
DACA stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals
It allows
Some undocumented immigrants brought here as children to live and
work in the US legally but grants no path to
permanent citizenship
Cynthia said her husband went from their home in North
Carolina to Sarasota Florida for a construction job after Hurricane
Milton on February 7th
Governor De Santi deputized Florida Highway Patrol troopers to carry
out the functions of ICE agents
On February 11th these North Carolinians construction workers were stopped
under false pretenses
He was heading back home with his crew and that's
when they got pulled over by a state trooper stating
that they uh should have passed through the weight scale
Which they were in a regular worker van
Does he have a criminal background He doesn't have no
criminal background
That's the reason he went to work over there because
um what we heard is they only getting criminals not
regular working people
She said he's been in a detention center in Florida
since February 12th with 60 people in a space meant
for 20
Under really bad circumstances sleeping on the floor not having
privacy having the toilet in there so they can do
the necessities in front of everybody he said he's scared
He doesn't know what's going to happen
They have 4 kids
Cynthia is worried about having to provide for all of
them while she waits for answers
They're not just grabbing criminals
They're not going after criminals
They're going after regular you know parents that are going
to work every day and trying to come back to
their family trying to provide for their family
Cynthia other families and advocates were at the North Carolina
legislature fighting against the passing of the North Carolina
Protection Act filed by Senate President Republican Phil Berger
It would require state agencies like the Highway Patrol and
Department of Public Safety to enter into agreements with ICE
to enforce immigration laws
Democratic Representative Deb Butler is part of a caucus trying
to fight this bill and similar legislation
I guess we're going to weaponize our highway patrol to
patrol interstates and profile people I guess and check their
Papers when we've come to the place where you're gonna
have to check check your papers
Does that sound familiar Sounds like Nazi Germany to me
That's what that sounds like
But North Carolina House Speaker Dustin Hall said this legislation
is what the people of North Carolina want and if
you're an illegal alien committing crimes in our state you've
got to go
This is a common sense policy that the people of
our state overwhelmingly agree with
Hall introduced House Bill 10 which passed in December requiring
all sheriffs in the state to work with ICE and
hold any suspect with a detainer in their jail for
an extra 48 hours so ICE can take them into
custody
The bill does not specify
The sheriff must notify ICE before releasing migrants
Hall said not all sheriffs were complying including Mecklenburg Sheriff
Gary McFadden who has said on record he's not notifying
ICE before releasing immigrants
They may be holding the folks there in the jail
for 48 hours but still not telling ICE when someone's
going to be released
And it's basically they're playing games and they're playing games
with public safety of the people of the state
Hall then introduced House Bill 318 which would require sheriffs
to notify an ICE agent two hours before a suspect
with a detainer is released
So just this week we introduced new legislation
If local sheriffs avoid cooperating with federal ICE officials the
citizens of this state will hold you accountable
I believe that we need to ICE
Alamance County Sheriff Terry Johnson has had a long history
of working with ICE
Aemance was one of the first counties to enter into
a 287G program with the agency in 2007
Remember Yolanda's son was deported under that program
In 2013 the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against
Alamance County alleging unconstitutional racial profiling
The government later dropped the lawsuit but ICE still ended
the partnership
Let me say this a whole lot of things were
blown totally out of proportion
On the sheriff's office and immigration I had to eat
it and move on and do what I felt was
right and what my oath of office held me to
In 2019 Alamance County started working with ICE again
That partnership continues today
We're holding facility probably for the biggest part of North
Carolina right now
The facility can hold up to 40 ICE detainees
Paid for by the federal government bringing in more than
$2 million a year
If we could hold 100 I think that'll be the
case
Sheriff Johnson says it's not just a talking point
Some undocumented people are committing crimes
I can tell you we have a few uh homicides
here and a ton of drug cases here that I'll
be glad to show you that what we're dealing with
here in Alaman County
And it's cartel so this is all cartel and he
did showing us pictures of millions of dollars from cartel
drug seizures
20 kg of cocaine from Tucson Arizona destined for Aance
County
He showed us pictures too graphic to show of murder
and kidnapping victims from the early and mid 2000s
The cartel members that was arrested in some of this
stuff
Murder
This is what bothered me
It's a 2002 murder
This man was killed at uh uh Motel 6 in
uh Burlington
I was not expecting
I mean these are these are bodies
Yes ma'am they're bodies bodies as a result of the
drug traffic from uh immigrants crossing the border cartel members
etc
Believe it or not uh I have a lot of
support from the immigrant community because they a lot of
them know what my heart is those individuals will tell
you
Unless somebody violates the law
We don't mess with them
For the White House and for the architects of this
kind of messaging there's not a difference between a criminal
immigrant who is a drug trafficker or a rapist and
your friend who happens to be undocumented or your cousin
or that guy who always changes your tires you see
a difference the administration does not see a difference and
it is important to them that all of that starts
to get blended together
It's the icing
It's difficult to live with fear
Every day we live with the fear that one of
us won't come back uh to the family
This is what happens when you don't fix the problem
What what's your biggest fear What's your biggest fear moving
forward To be separated again to have my children uh
my grandchildren crying again for their dads
I think it would be more painful
One of the most painful things is to see them
because they're children and sometimes they don't understand
They don't understand the systems
They don't understand uh why suddenly we stopped seeing a
family member
And I think that's one of our fears when we
go out even to go to work
We go out with fear and sometimes I see them
through the window
And when they leave I tell them God bless you
You know Larry we and we've interviewed a lot of
different people for this and you know some people say
oh this um notion of undocumented people or illegal people
coming in and committing these crimes it's not happening it's
it's very rare what would you say to that Well
to someone like that uh you know I would say
they haven't lived through something like this you know um
and hopefully they don't hopefully they never do
But um
You know if they don't recognize things like this um
I don't know what you know really make people wake
up you know if if things like this you know
never happen or you know uh don't make sense to
the common sense person then you know that the whole
immigration fight is lost