Cooper, Cohen outline NC coronavirus vaccine distribution plan
2883 new cases have been reported since yesterday a record
high 2033 people in the hospital and sadly 5 284
people who died
Our prayers are with those who have lost loved ones
to this cruel virus
We're seeing cases and hospitalizations rise steadily as are many
states across the country
We're continuing to monitor the data and the trends closely
We need to keep doing what we know works wearing
a mask anytime
We're with people from another household and social distancing anytime
we leave our homes
As concerning as the numbers are I and many other
North Carolinians have newfound hope in the development of promising
vaccines
Madonna and Pfizer both have produced vaccines with remarkable early
results better than health experts ever hoped for
What we know so far is this safe effective vaccines
should be available soon
Our job is to be ready to get them to
people as quickly and effectively as possible
North Carolina is working hard to hit the ground running
when these vaccines are approved and shipped
For months our Department of Health and Human Services has
been developing a plan to distribute the vaccines so that
we can get past this pandemic
But there's still a lot of work to do to
get the vaccines from the manufacturers to our health care
providers like hospitals and health departments and then ultimately to
each of us
Our state is preparing to receive the Pfizer vaccine that
requires ultra coal storage
Health care providers with these capabilities have been identified across
North Carolina
We're a big state though with rural areas that stretch
for hundreds of miles
Every person is important and we'll work hard to overcome
the challenges that our geography presents
The cove in 19 vaccine will be free regardless of
whether someone has health insurance
Health care providers are being enrolled in the vaccination program
based on their ability to reach priority populations
Those who are at risk of exposure like healthcare workers
and those who are at risk of severe illness
Trusted providers like hospitals and local health departments will be
among the first to vaccinate people
These vaccines have made progress so quickly because of significant
improvements in science and technology all while following safety protocols
Researchers like we have right here in North Carolina have
been working on new vaccine technology for several years in
preparation for a global pandemic
Just like this and when it comes to determining safety
before the FDA will authorize thes vaccines and Independent Advisory
Board will review the data for safety
This advisory board has no loyalty to any company political
administration or individual
The board
The board exists to review the vaccine trials independently
I have confidence in this process
Health care workers people in long term care and those
at risk for Savile
Severe illness will come first but when it's my turn
to get this vaccine I'll be ready to roll up
my sleeve
At this time I'm going to ask Dr Mandy Cohen
our secretary of health and human services to share more
with us
Dr
Cohen Thank you Governor as you mentioned are trends are
worrisome
People are going to the emergency department mawr and seeing
covert like illness
Our cases are at their highest level since the start
of the pandemic and the percent of tests that are
positive is up
Too many people are becoming seriously ill with Cove in
our hospitalizations have hit record levels with over 2000 people
hospitalized right now across the state
Sadly more than 5000 North Carolinians have lost their lives
from this virus since our first death in March of
March 12th of this year
To give some perspective just under 1500 people died from
the flu in the past 10 years
In just 11 months Cove it had killed more than
three times that number
These air more than trends and numbers
They're real people with significant community spread across the state
Anyone of any age can transmit co vid to someone
who is at higher risk for serious illness
That's why our prevention tools those three W's air so
important wearing a mask waiting 6 ft apart and washing
hands often are proven to help prevent people from getting
sick keep people out of the hospital and save lives
Fortunately we're likely just a few weeks away from having
a new tool that we've all been waiting for
A Vaccine Cove in 19 vaccines will help us defeat
this virus and get back to the people and places
we love
Vaccines imitate an infection so their bodies think a germ
like a virus is attacking and we make antibodies that
we need to fight the rial germs if they come
and attack
The Food and Drug Administration and their external advisory committee
will review to vaccines this month between those two vaccines
More than 70,000 people have participated in clinical trials to
see if these vaccines are safe and if they can
effectively prevent someone from getting Cove in 19
The preliminary data looks very strong and we look forward
to reviewing the complete data when it's made publicly available
in the next few days
Once the vaccine is authorized for use by the FDA
states will receive a very limited supply at first to
determine who should get the vaccine first the North Carolina
Institute of Medicine convened an independent Covic Vaccine advisory committee
Our prioritization plan is based on their guidance along with
guidance from the National Academy of Medicine on equitable distribution
of vaccines
Initially this very limited supply of vaccines will go to
a limited number of hospital settings to vaccinate healthcare workers
at high risk of exposure to Cove
In 19 those who are caring for or cleaning areas
used by patients with cove in 19 as more vaccine
becomes available will be able to have vaccine distributed tomb
or of the state's hospitals and then to our local
health departments to focus on vaccinating are high risk health
care workers
Additionally long term care staff and residents are prioritized to
receive vaccines
Vaccinations at our nursing homes adult care homes and other
long term care settings are being managed by the federal
government
However the vaccines used in those long term care settings
will come from our state's vaccine allotment
We hope that by January our health departments and community
health centers will start vaccinating other high risk adults who
are at high risk for complications meaning they have two
or more chronic conditions and are at higher risk for
exposure
The key takeaways are that vaccines will initially be available
in limited settings primarily focused on our hospitals across the
state and then our long term care residents and staff
As the governor said the vaccine will be free to
everyone and any fees associated with administering that vaccine will
be paid by either your insurance company or by the
government
We've been hard at work preparing for this moment
Our vaccine plan outlines the critical steps needed to administer
a vaccine program of this scale anything from enrolling providers
to give those vaccines to ensuring that the vaccines are
distributed equitably and providers can properly store and handle them
to developing an I T system to manage vaccine supplies
and ensure that people get both doses of that vaccine
Training providers on how to use those I T Systems
toe have that process to monitor for any adverse reactions
And so much more states are going to need ongoing
federal support and federal dollars as we undertake such an
unprecedented effort
Having a safe vaccine within reach is an extraordinary achievement
but at the same time it is not a quick
fix
It will take several months to have enough supplies so
that anyone can readily get a vaccine until most people
are vaccinated
Those three W's remain our best tool to protect our
loved ones to make sure our hospitals air there the
for those who need them and to save lives
So whatever your reason get behind the mask
Thank you Governor
Thank you dot Cohen Appreciate your hard work and the
work of your staff
As the states are shouldering the job of vaccine distribution
we need more support and resources from Washington
I know Congress is facing a deadline this month to
keep the government running
I implore them to doom or to support families and
small businesses as well as the states which must create
networks for vaccine distribution
But then the next few weeks there will likely be
at least one approved vaccine
And with hope so close on the horizon we have
to keep using the tools we know slow the spread
of this virus to help save lives during the next
few months
Don't give up now when help is on the way
where a mask If there's ever a question about when
we should put on a mask air on the side
of wearing it it's an easy way to protect our
family and our neighbors and it actually helps boost the
economy
When we all wear our mass we help keep businesses
open and customers and employees safe practice social distancing
Any time we leave the house any time we are
near people we don't live with thes simple measures do
save lives
I also appreciate the continued efforts of local governments like
the city of Asheville Buncombe County City of Winston Salem
that are increasing enforcement of our existing strong orders
This enforcement along with MAWR local governments getting on board
can bring our numbers down and keep us from having
to go backward again
Don't give up now
We need to work together and stay vigilant
If we do I know we'll get through this
Also with us today is the director of emergency management
Mike Spray Berry and Commissioner of Prisons Todd Ishi
Monica McGee and David Pain are our sign language interpreters
and behind the scenes Erica Coogler and Jasmine Materia our
Spanish language interpreter's will be glad to take questions
And if you can identify yourself and your organization we
would appreciate that and we'll take the first one
Our first question is from Reuben Jones with spectrum News
Yes Good afternoon
This is Reuben Jones from Spectrum News in Charlotte
Um Governor Cooper you just uh praise some of the
specific counties for putting in place tougher restrictions around the
state
I wonder with the projections that the numbers are not
going to be going in the right direction following Thanksgiving
over the next week do you expect the state to
put in place any new restrictions
Uh in the next week we will do what we
need to do to protect the safety and health of
North Carolinians
All options are on the table but look at what
we have in place
Now we have a very strong fortified mask mandate
We have capacity restrictions and rules and restaurants and retail
stores
We have mass gathering limits
We have all of these protocols that are in place
that are designed to slow the spread of the virus
And if people will abide by those protocols if local
governments law enforcement and others will help us enforce those
protocols we can avoid having to go backwards
But we will do what we need to do to
make sure we've got hospital capacity
And I see you capacity
And to make sure that when somebody has a heart
attack or appendicitis that there is ah hospital bed and
surgeons and nurses ready for them
And already we have seen hospitals strained significantly in other
states
We do not want that to happen here
Next question please
Our next question is from Paul Wolverton with USA Today
Network
Hi Governor Paul Wolverton with the U
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A
today Network
Uh there was a rumor last week that you were
considering a curfew possibly for nine PM statewide
Was there any kind of a curfew under consideration We've
continued to look at all options in order to reduce
the spread of the virus other
Some other states have done that and that's certainly an
option that is on the table
As I mentioned earlier we have a lot of protocols
that are in place right now that we believe if
people abide by them and if we can get them
enforced can help us slow the virus sufficiently
But all options are on the table
Next question
Our next question is from Robin Candidate with Fox 46
Good afternoon Governor
This is Robin with Fox 46
Will teachers school staff and first responders get priority in
receiving the vaccine So we've had an independent advisory committee
to help us with guidelines on and who comes first
with the virus
Health care workers who are on the front line people
with severe illnesses or that it could be severely ill
with co vid and those with chronic conditions
Come first we know that we're gonna get limited supplies
at first but I'll let Dr Cohen address a little
bit about how the protocols were set up
Dr
Cohen
Thank you Governor
Hi Robin
Yes is the governor mentioned and I mentioned earlier in
my remarks we had an independent um advisory vaccine advisory
Group that was convened by the Institute of Medicine here
in North Carolina
Brought together a lot of experts from around the state
and they uh did make recommendations to us
We also aligned those pro those priorities to the National
Academy a medicine which did also put out a set
of protocols for prioritization that we have been using
As we look into the future the governor said we
are gonna have a limited number of vaccine available
So the first folks that are going to see that
vaccine are going to be our hospitals in order for
them to vaccinate their healthcare workers that are at high
risk for exposure
Those that are caring for or clean the areas of
folks with cove in 19
As we get more vaccine will be able t o
share that with even more hospitals again focusing on our
front line health care workers who are at high risk
for exposure
Additional priority groups include our long term care both residents
and workers those air folks in nursing homes adult care
homes and other long term care settings So they will
be prioritized
In addition it will be adult
After that it'll be adults with two or more chronic
conditions that are that put them at higher risk for
severe illness
For Cove in things we have been talking about related
thio heart disease and diabetes
Um so those are the kinds of chronic conditions that
we're going to want to seek out
So if someone is a um a K 12 teacher
or a firefighter and they have two or more chronic
conditions they're going to be prioritized after we do our
health care workers and long term care workers that will
be the next group
That will be uh in line to vaccinate
I would caution that that will probably not be until
the January time frame for that group again because we're
starting with our hospitals health care workers and then moving
to our long term care settings
Thanks
Thank you
Next question
Um follow up Robin candidate Fox 46
So beyond the initial folks that you just mentioned the
health care workers the long term care facilities and then
those with chronic chronic conditions
Have you Have you made decisions beyond that On who
will be the next group dot com and I'll let
you
Hi Robin
Yes we have a full prioritization that is included in
our vaccine plan that we submitted to the federal government
is posted on our website
But we're really focusing on those those groups and we
want folks Thio most importantly understand there's gonna be a
limited supply it first we're gonna focus
Like I said on hospitals health care workers
Then we will move Thio working with our local health
departments to make sure we're getting all of our healthcare
workers that are are working with co vid patients um
and then to our long term care providers
So that's what we're gonna be
We just wanna make sure that folks are understanding that
first so limited supply at first few few folks will
be prioritized but we do have a full list of
prioritization that is included in our vaccination plan
Thanks
Another thing is important is that we want people to
get vaccinated when it's your turn
We have some concerns about people not wanting to be
vaccinated
And if it is authorized by this independent advisory board
and approved by the FDA I have confidence in it
I think most of our health care and health experts
will have confidence in it
We want people to have confidence in it because in
order for this to work we need to get as
many people vaccinated as possible
Next question please
Our next question is from Amber Lake with W I
t N Hi Governor Cooper
This is Amber Lake with W I
T N in Greenville
I was curious
In eastern North Carolina we have had some very high
profile infection like the Pitt County health director Dr John
Silver Nails and the most recent one is the farm
Bill
Mayor John Moore
Do you think that Pitt County and other NC counties
need to doom or in the fight against Kobe 19
This virus does not discriminate
Anybody can get it and anybody can transfer it from
one person to the other
There is community spread across the entire state of North
Carolina
I'm not sure where Pitt County ranks right now whether
it's yellow orange or red
But every single county in North Carolina right now has
cases and is at risk
So we want everybody to doom
Or uh not just Pitt County
We want local governments law enforcement businesses leaders in the
community
We want people to set an example about what they
can do right now to reduce the number of people
getting sick and dying and to reduce the number of
people who are having to go into our hospital and
take beds
And we know the way to do it toe wear
mass to social distance
Those were the things that we know work right now
that costs very little that can help us get through
this until we can get enough people vaccinated
Next question please
I'm our next question is from Richard Craver with the
Winston Salem Journal
Hello Governor
This is Richard Kramer with the Winston Salem Journal
Um we talked back in early November
Your your hopes about trying Thio see if the politicization
of wearing mask and things like that would go away
Postelection
Here we are close to ah month out and I
was just trying to get a sense for what you
feel like you can say two people who were declining
refusing to wear a mask that hasn't already been said
that you think might be able to get um them
to start adapting to it
I think to say that we're all in this together
and that wearing a mask is not for the person
wearing the mask as much as it is caring about
people who are around you
I think Mawr and more people are beginning to understand
that the science is very clear on this
That mass do indeed help reduce the spread and they're
most effective in protecting the people around you
The mask does provide some protection to the person wearing
it and that data has come online and we're seeing
that mawr and mawr
But more importantly it protects people around you and I
think it shows you know for people of faith you
wanna look after your neighbor and look after each other
Wearing a mask is one of the best things that
you can do to show that you care about them
because you may have the virus and not know it
You may have it and not have Simpson
You may have it and not have any symptoms
And we know a lot of people almost half of
the people may not have any symptoms at all
So I think it's it's an appeal to everyone who
cares about their neighbor who cares about their family that
this is something that is important to do
Next question
Please follow up
Richard Craver Winston Salem Journal
Yeah
Yes Governor
I had a follow up question
Um not toe sound overly negative in this instance
But also you are expressing a lot of confidence and
the vaccine that's going that hopefully will be out in
the next few weeks
Is there any concern that y'all maybe um found yourself
in the in the category of overstating how effective this
vaccine could be since it's still so preliminary I'm gonna
turn it over to Dr Cohen on that
Hi Richard
So we have gotten a look at some preliminary data
from both companies Pfizer and Moderna that have already submitted
um some of their scientific data to the FDA
And again those were just some preliminary initial looks
But what they're showing is that it does prevent folks
from getting Covic um at very high rates higher than
I think we were initially expecting
Um the FDA had set a marker saying we want
to see at least 50% of infections prevented
What The two vaccines at least with this preliminary result
is showing closer to 90%
Now I want to see all of that data
And I know the FDA is working to make that
publicly available as they work with their independent advisory committee
and that meeting that's going to be happening on the
10th
So I'm looking forward to looking at the deeper details
of that data
I think the thing that has been reassuring to me
is that the scientists that um that I respect that
I know have seen more of the data than I've
been able to see at this point have All have
also um said that it is very positive eso we
look forward to seeing more of that data
Um and again vaccines are really only as effective at
preventing of it if everyone gets vaccinated Um we can
have these great tools but we have to use them
And so our focus at the state is making sure
that we can hit the ground running and that we
can make sure that we're sharing good information with folks
so they can make good decisions about getting vaccines when
it is their turn
Thanks
Next question please
Our next question is from Dawns on with the News
and Observer
Thanks
On funding the movement server you said that North Carolina
is prepared to receive the Pfizer vaccine that requires ultra
cold storage
Why Why Pfizer for our state is it because of
our cold storage capabilities and with the limited supply is
there specific numbers So the Pfizer vaccine is the first
one that requested authorization
So we think that the Pfizer vaccine would be first
And we do know that that requires ultra cold storage
And a number of our hospitals already have that capability
Uh 84,800 I believe is the number that we have
been told in the number of doses that we would
receive with the first shipment
And that's what we are expecting at this time
Dr
Cohen would you like to add to that Okay next
question
Please follow up
Don von News and observer it honey
Thanks for the follow with subsequent shipments
And the timeline is the doctor Cohen said by January
hoping Thio build off for vaccinations for the UH two
or more chronic condition
Adults is it by by early January it's all depending
on FDA approval what time of the month it is
and when the next scratches would be delivered Go and
handle that
Hi Don
So the best information we have right now from our
federal partners is as the governor mentioned about 85,000 doses
will come to North Carolina when the first vaccine is
approved
Now there'll be a second vaccine we think coming right
on the heels of that and then that will be
a second allocation
The federal government intends to do weekly allocations of the
vaccine
We do not know at what what level and how
many doses we will be getting in an ongoing basis
So it's hard for us to pinpoint exactly when we
will be able Thio expand beyond our healthcare workers and
our long term care settings into that next population off
our adults with two or more chronic conditions
So we know that when we get the first vaccine
it will be going to hospitals only will be focusing
on health care workers only
That's that 1st 85,000 doses that were expecting again
Theo
FDA has not yet authorized use of this vaccine and
things could change
Um they could um alter the way in which that
approval it goes forward which may change our numbers
But that is what we're planning for at this point
Um when we have a second vaccine then we'll be
getting weekly doses of both vaccines
Um and then we will work through our our populations
that we have prioritized s
So we can't say quite yet about when we could
get to those to those adults with two or more
chronic conditions but we believe it will probably be in
the January time frame
Thank you
Thanks
Next question please
Our next question is from Eddie Garcia O W s
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Thank you for taking my question Governor
This Eddie Garcia from 88.5 wt d precise counties reporting
a test positivity rate of 20.3%
Yeah
State data is showing 9.5 and our county officials say
this could be because the data is scrubbed the only
county residents are included and the state might be including
non residents
So I'm wondering why there's been this disparity between the
numbers because that happening for a little while now the
gap seems to be widening somewhat dramatically
So how does DHHS account for this and which of
these numbers really should be used for the county alert
system at we know percent positive is an important data
point that we look to determine where we are in
the spread of the virus
But I'll let Dr Cohen address that issue specifically
Hi Eddie
Because we've been talking about for a number of weeks
We've been concerned with the level of viral spread in
the triad
And so I think what we're seeing in Forsyth with
a higher percent positive is the fact that they have
more viral spread in that county the way we use
uh the way we calculate those numbers is we do
include the lab tests that are done by folks that
are from Forsyth County
So if we for all of North Carolina's a state
we take everyone in the state who um where we
get that information reported to us Elektronik Lee for foresight
Then we take that just that information of those that
live in foresight
Then we can calculate that number
What I think it shows us as that we said
is that they're different levels of viral spread across our
state
But as the governor emphasized earlier We have high levels
of community spread across our state
Whether we've labeled someone a yellow and orange or red
that's still represents a significant amount of community spread of
this virus so there are important actions everyone needs to
take
But I I'd really emphasize that places like Forsyth with
a high percent of tests that are positive meaning that
as we test folks ah lot of them are coming
back positive
It means there's a lot of virus in the community
and they're things we need to do right now
Let me give you a couple of items that folks
should be doing when they see higher levels of viral
spread in their communities
First they need to be limiting their social circles
So not just having small events which we are required
to do by executive order
You don't want to mix with too many other households
every additional household you mix with is one additional exposure
So you wanna be limiting your social circles thinking about
Instead of dining in a restaurant consider getting take out
instead
Those are the kinds of things that you could take
modifications
Everyone should already be wearing a mask
Everyone should already be social distancing and doing small gatherings
Um and following the safety protocols
But there's some additional things that some of our counties
particularly that are red and our orange that need to
be going even above
Um and I'm particularly concerned about our triad because of
some of the strain we have seen on their hospital
systems already
Thank you
Next question please
Our next question is from Doolan who guard with ABC
11
Hi
Good afternoon
Go on hunger out here with ABC
11
1st question for Dr Cohen
You all seem to be pretty confident
Uh that at least by January you'll have enough doses
form or folks are you
Are you under the impression of the the assumption that
these first doses will arrive by Thanksgiving or at least
by the end of the year Onda And secondly once
these folks do receive their vaccinations for anyone who does
Do you see the mask mandate Um if that will
be relaxed in any capacity thanks to on
So um as a governor mentioned that there are two
vaccines at the FDA right now they're going through the
approval process theory earliest that we expect the vaccine is
probably in the middle of next week
Uh December 15th 16th 17th
Something like that on DSO
We expect to potentially see approval and potentially have vaccine
by the end of that week
Again it's going to be in limited supply and Onley
at at a limited number of hospitals to start with
But then we expect to get allocations from the federal
government week week over week
And then there may be a second vaccine that will
be approved before the end of this calendar year
We can't say for sure but that's what the um
the schedule looks like at this point
Um and there may be a third or 1/4 because
we know there are other vaccines actually in the pipeline
that may make it into the FDA approval process
So that is why we're not able to give an
exact understanding of of what group Exactly when Because we
don't know how much vaccine will receiving here in the
state nor how many vaccines will be approved
Um and what the available vaccine quantity will be Um
I will say that we will need to be wearing
masks as we work our way of increasing the amount
of vaccine vaccination happening in our state
So master going to be with us particularly as we
think about celebrating Christmas and New Year's master will be
incredibly incredibly important
We're already seeing such a high level of viral spread
here
Um we all want to make sure that we are
um planning for small gatherings this year
You're gonna hear us talk a lot about how toe
prepped for the Christmas holiday in the New Year's holiday
differently this year
But masks they're certainly gonna be part of that
Thanks
The question brings up the point about how complicated this
vaccine distribution can be
Not only do you need to make sure that you
get the vaccine to the right people but then with
the first two vaccines that we expect approval for there
are two vaccinations that you need one is it 21
days apart
So you have to make sure that the person comes
in and gets vaccinated a second time 21 days afterward
with the same type of vaccine that they got the
first time
So this distribution processes is going to be complicated
But that's one of the reasons that the department has
been working on this for so long
And we we look forward to getting these vaccines out
and helping people
Next question
Please follow up
Dewan Haugaard ABC 11
And thank you for answering that as the state is
seeing more viral spread
Uh this weekend we're expecting about 100 youth soccer teams
from around the country uh to participate in a tournament
here in Raleigh
So given the number of rising cases and both this
statement across the country are either of you concerned about
this event and its potential impact on the community here
I would certainly be concerned about it
And we need to make sure that people abide by
mass gathering limits
People need to be very careful when they're gathering together
Uh Dr Cohen would you want to say something for
a second Hi do On our guidance already discourages tournaments
like the one that you are describing
Um but if folks are playing uh these kinds of
sporting events that are of intermediate risk like soccer um
they are required to be wearing masks while they're doing
it both playing on the sidelines and the fans
So massacre being an important component to add an additional
layer of protection
But as I said our guidance already discourages those events
Thank you
Next question please
Our final question is from Travis Fain with WRL Yeah
thank you
Ah lot of this tiered distribution plan depends on how
maney co morbidity people have
Who's responsible for establishing that And I'm particularly wondering in
the hospital is that hospital administration Is that the individual
workers personal Doctor how does that work Hi Travis
Um as far as how do we decide what are
the two chronic conditions It has to be something that
is specific to co vid and that has been established
by the National Academy of Medicine as well as the
C
D
C
It is that same criteria of the kinds of chronic
diseases that we've been talking about
So it's not any any chronic disease because there's a
lot out there but the ones that are focused to
cove it you can find that in our vaccine plan
we do list out specifically what we're talking about when
we say two or more chronic conditions related to that
Oh and then we I think you asked about related
Thio hospital workers and such getting vaccine
So when are limited supply comes and we do share
that with with um with our hospitals it will be
those that both care for our um for those with
cove it as well as cleaning those areas
So it'll be both the clinical staff um as well
as others who may be in close contact with the
virus itself
So it could be clinical workers Um or those from
the janitorial staff is Well um and again we leave
that up to the discretion of the hospitals um Thio
to make sure they're prioritizing those that are again at
high risk of interacting with the cove in 19 Virus
Thinks there's a ball
Yeah
Yes Travis
Yes
Uh I wanted to make sure So is itself reported
then that high
I have these two cool cool morbidity ease and thus
qualify Or do you have to have a doctor's note
How does how does that actually get police Yeah Travis
Great question
So it will be self reported so it will not
require a doctor's note
But again we are asking folks Thio abide by the
guidelines that we are going to be put put out
But it will not require a doctor's note
Thank you
I want to thank everybody for joining us today
Please abide by the three W's and stay safe out
there
Thank you very much
Yeah
Mhm
Mhm yeah