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Wake schools committee mulls conduct grade for all students

Posted October 29, 2013

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— Students in Wake County could have another grade on their report card next fall.

The Wake County Board of Education's Policy Committee met Tuesday to discuss a proposal that would give every student a behavior grade on their transcripts.

That's in addition to their individual subject grades.

Currently, elementary students are the only ones who get separate conduct grades.

The committee has discussed the proposed change on and off over the last four years. The entire board would have to vote before any action is taken.

If a change were approved, it would take effect beginning with the 2014-2015 school year.

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  • jackaroe123 Oct 31, 2013

    "Since they're poor, we need to give them special consideration, not hold them to the same standard, give hem some sort of "break'....."

    If there is clear evidence that situations beyond their control affect their ability to behave or perform academically, why shouldn't we consider it? It's not being soft; it's being thorough. You're not being tough and holding them to strict standards by ignoring their circumstances; you're being inconsiderate, and taking short cuts yourself, which is ironically a case of being soft yourself.

  • A person Oct 30, 2013

    Why no story about the latest stupidity from Wake County School Board concerning what they want to do wit grades in the schools. They truly are educating for the welfare program. No kids will be allowed to fail, which mean no kids will be allowed to excel either

  • WralCensorsAreBias Oct 30, 2013

    So good to see the pathetic WCPSS and its miserably inept school board continue to do nothing for the children's futures.

    but sure glad you voted to pass that bond and give them more money to waste.

  • mep Oct 30, 2013

    money and passing blame (with conduct grades) will not fix education's problems. Parents taking responsibility will. Success creates success.
    SaveEnergyMan

    I agree that throwing more taxpayer money at schools is not the solution... especially behavior issues. Now if parents had to write out a check each week to pay for their kids education, AND received regular progress reports regarding the students performance... this would be an incentive for parents to become more involved. As it is now, parents know their kid is "entitled" to the education, and could care less about their grades or behavior. But if they had to write a check each week.....

  • teacher3 Oct 30, 2013

    I am a teacher and give a weekly conduct grade in elementary school-- which in turn is averaged and put on their report card. They receive S, N, or U. My parents that are involved fix problems with behavior quickly--- those I never see -- it is what it is--- I just gave a benchmark assessment- one child finished in 7 minutes -- just because they don't care-- in the end that score is a direct reflection on me!! Which is unfair. A student in another class told his teacher if he did not pass his End Of Grade Assessment she would be fired!!! Wonder where that came from!

  • robbincasino Oct 30, 2013

    Why do people assume that if you are poor you are stupid? I was a single mom to 3 children. We weren't rich and I guess you could say that by the standards set by our government we were living at poverty level. I never let be an excuse for bad behavior or bad grades. Today, all 3 of my grown children are doing well. One has been in the Marine Corp for 8 years. One just graduated from College and the other one is due to graduated in May. It's all about parenting and being involved and holding your children accountable for their actions, good or bad. I hope that WCPS leaves things well enough alone. The last thing any child need is for there not to be any boundaries or expectations set for them. Because in the real world, there will be.

  • SaveEnergyMan Oct 30, 2013

    bill0 is right, kids don't get zeroes for work not turned in and teachers are almost required to give re-tests when the student fails. After all, if the student fails then it MUST be the teacher's fault.

    Others have hit the nail on the head with regards to family. Behavior is learned not at school but at home. Behavior isn't only about treating others wuth respect, but treating yourself and the opportunity to learn with respect. This is missing from many families today due to distractions and the immediate gratification society wants from everything. Education is a long term investment.

    Many, if not most, education problems could be solved with family involvement (hear that Mr. Barber?). Schools don't raise children. Teachers could then teach, rather than babysit, and let discipline happen at home. I know I am oversimplifying, but money and passing blame (with conduct grades) will not fix education's problems. Parents taking responsibility will. Sucess creates sucess.

  • BernsteinIII Oct 30, 2013

    Wow! Very important subject to ponder! OMG.

  • NE Raleigh Oct 30, 2013

    Tired of "dummying down" education for those who just can't do the basics. Being poor automatically gives you an excuse to not come to class, do any work, and be disruptive? This is nonsense! Time to look at private education options. wake County School System will soon like many inner city schools, 90% minorities.

  • bill0 Oct 30, 2013

    WRAL is only reporting half the proposal for some reason. The other half is to eliminate all "behavior" elements from the subject grades. Teachers would no longer be allowed to give 0's if a student didn't do the assignment. (They would get an automatic 50% for 0% work). Students would be allowed to turn in assignments months late. Tests could be retaken if a student didn't like their grade.

    Then, all of those "behaviors" like "doesn't actually do any of the work" would be in a behavior grade.

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