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NAACP opposes deals for 'Moral Monday' protesters

Posted August 30, 2013

— The state chapter of the NAACP said Friday that it plans to fight charges filed against people arrested during a series of protests at the Legislative Building instead of accepting a deal offered by Wake County District Attorney Colon Willoughby to end the cases.

Willoughby said recently that his office would dismiss trespassing and other charges filed against more than 900 people during the so-called "Moral Monday" protests if they agree to perform 25 hours community service and pay $180 in court costs.

Arrestees wouldn't have to admit guilt if they fulfilled the two requirements of the deal.

"This is an offer the North Carolina NAACP does not advocate," the group, which helped organize the protests, said in a statement.

"We understand and endorse the moral and political power that over 940 people might bring to their communities from doing the community service, but we do not support the extracting of admissions of wrongdoing and the payment of a ransom in the form of court cost for engaging in actions that are clearly protected by our Constitution."

The NAACP said $180 represents a week's pay or two weeks of groceries for some of the protesters.

Still, the group said the choice to take the deal or fight the charges is a personal one for each defendant.

Some people have already opted for the deal. Hundreds of others are still awaiting trials on the charges, which could swamp Wake County's court system.

"The N.C. NAACP has the greatest respect, love and gratitude for each of the Moral Monday defendants, whatever their choice. Whether you decide to serve our community or challenge the constitutionality and legality of the arrests in the courtroom is between you, your conscience and your pro bono attorney," the group's statement said. "We applaud the over 940 Moral Monday defendants for whatever decision they make."

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  • notexactly Sep 4, 2013

    you see what you want JUNK like I said. So you are saying that even if the law is written that the GA can govern the law, they really can't? And I do agree with you that Fox news does not tell the whole story sometime, but neither does msnbc and all the other liberal networks. Fox is the number 1 news station for some reason or another. But I see your point. But how do we know all voters meet the criteria of the state constitution.. I get it about the photo ID and agree the way it is written. But it is written you must meet the criteria to vote. How do we prove that?

  • junkmail5 Sep 4, 2013

    If 900 dead people voted then yes there is a problem. it just cant seem to see that- nachozhee

    I agree, that WOULD be a problem!

    Except, it didn't actually happen.

    the link he provided was Fox (which lies pretty often) CLAIMING that someone ELSE claimed it happened.

    With no evidence.

    And the story in over 18 months old.

    There was never anybody who found any PROOF that it happened, despite investigations into the claims.

    I can claim I met Elvis yesterday, but without any evidence I wouldn't expect you to pass new laws to deal with Elvis.

    but that's exactly what the voter fraud folks are doing.

    Nobody can find evidence of any fraud that Photo ID would prevent... but we're wasting millions, and disenfranchising huge numbers of LEGAL voters, to prevent an imaginary problem nobody has any evidence of.

    And YOU think that's a good idea apparently.

    absentee voting can be protected in this way. You just don't want to admit it.- Nacho

    Because it's not true- no ID for absentee

  • junkmail5 Sep 4, 2013

    The GA can govern the state constitution- nachochezz

    No, they really can't.

    The POINT of a constitution is that it is ABOVE regular state law.

    You can't change the constitution without ACTUALLY CHANGING the constitution.

    Hence adding a new requirement for your vote to count (photo ID) beyond that required in the constitution is ILLEGAL.

    it through federal registration does not mean that trumps the states laws- nachcheez

    Wrong again! Federal law trumps state law. It's called the supremacy clause in the FEDERAL constitution.

    why do several other states have ID laws to vote. If it was unconstitutional then it would have been shot down by the supreme court.- nachocheez

    And 0 for 3...

    Those STATE constitutions aren't the same as the NC one.

    You are now confusing the FEDERAL supreme court, which said SOME states voter IDs (not ours) are ok under the FEDERAL constitution.

    The problem here is the NC law violates the STATE constitution.

  • junkmail5 Sep 4, 2013

    OH my, a valid form of ID is a Drivers License,- tuckerbrian54

    Wrong actually.

    If you have a DL, but the address is wrong (ie you moved and didn't update it yet) it is NOT valid for voting under the new law.

    If you have a DL but got married and so the DL name and your registration name don't match? NOT VALID for voting under the new law.

    And so on.

    So yes, over 500k don't have a valid ID FOR THE NEW LAW.

    Many had perfectly valid ones for anything else they needed to do in life. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many of em.

    it's not costing the state millions to make these, you, who needs the ID, pays $10. - tuckerbrian54

    Wrong AGAIN!

    Unless it's -entirely- free to the end user it's an illegal poll tax.

    So yes, it IS costing the STATE (that is, the taxpayers) millions to provide these "free" IDs.

  • notexactly Sep 4, 2013

    Hockey
    You are wasting your time with junk!!! he/she only sees what it wants to. If 900 dead people voted then yes there is a problem. it just cant seem to see that. So who voted for these dead people junk? Please answer. For you to say there is NO fraud pretty much explains how naïve you are. I do agree with you that the photo ID as it is written will not help in some cases. But if you have to have an ID and to get that ID you have to prove you meet all of the criteria in the constitution, and have a photo on it, then yes it will prevent fraud. Even absentee voting can be protected in this way. You just don't want to admit it. I think what a lot of folks are saying is yes it does say you can vote without ID, but then how do you know if that person meets the criteria??

  • notexactly Sep 4, 2013

    junk
    you are again missing the point. The GA can govern the state constitution and they have. Just because you can bypass it through federal registration does not mean that trumps the states laws. If so why do several other states have ID laws to vote. If it was unconstitutional then it would have been shot down by the supreme court. I think you do have a point. But if the state constitution says the GA shall enact laws to govern the registration laws then it is not irrelevant at all. Also I see your point about our const. but you have to meet all of the criteria and how is that proven? citizen? 18? English? etc.

  • tuckerbrian54 Sep 3, 2013

    And plus they have til election year 2016 to get there voter ID, so those 500,000 better start now.

  • tuckerbrian54 Sep 3, 2013

    OH my, a valid form of ID is a Drivers License, so in other words, 500,000 people don't have a drivers license or they drive illegally and it's not costing the state millions to make these, you, who needs the ID, pays $10. to NC to make the ID, so the state is not spending $ to make them, ya got it ? There are other forms of acceptable ID.

  • junkmail5 Sep 3, 2013

    Note the GA shall enact general laws governing the registration of the voters. THE GA did in this case state you must vote where your legal residency is, and legal residdency is the address you claim on your taxes.- babedan

    Again, irrelevant.

    Because you can BYPASS the NC registration entirely by using federal registration.

    So you can register that way.

    At which point you are LEGALLY registered to vote in NC.

    End of the registration story.

    Now, on voting day, you need only meet the criteria to vote.

    Having a photo ID is not one of those criteria.

    Having lived in NC (anywhere in NC) for 1 year is one.

    Having lived in your district for the last 30 days is one. (and ONLY 30 days, which part of the state you were in before that is IRRELEVANT)

  • junkmail5 Sep 3, 2013

    Well then, I guess those 500,000 people must just be aliens or ghosts, cause you can't tell me they've gone this far in life without some form of photo ID.- tuckerbrian54

    I think you are confused.

    I said they didn't have a valid form of ID for the voting law.

    In case you are unaware, a drivers license with the wrong address isn't valid for the new voting law. But you can still legally drive with one (for a while).

    There's a fairly long list in fact of ID that's fine for some uses, but NOT for voting.

    That's part of the problem- NC passed a much more restrictive ID law than most other states.

    And yes, there's over 500,000 legally registered NC voters that lack such a "voting valid" ID.

    I'm sure this hasn't been enforced in the past, Hopefully, it will now.
    babedan

    What will?

    As I said, the language restriction is STATE registration.

    You can bypass that entirely using federal registration.

    You seem to have not understood that and just quoted the text back.

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