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Wake couple says neighbor's crowing roosters are 'definition of insanity'

Posted April 19

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— A Wake County couple claims hundreds of roosters living next door are causing constant noise, and they are fed up.

After not receiving help from the county or state lawmakers, they are now warning people not to move to Wake County and risk being in a similar situation.

Their home is on three acres of land but it is not isolated and sits in a residential neighborhood.

Day and night, Keith Robinson and Andrea Reubens said the noise coming from next door is driving them mad.

"That's the definition of insanity over there," Robinson said.

The roosters and their owners moved next door to the couple five years ago.

"Why are they screaming. Why don't they stop? They just scream and scream," Reubens said.

The couple reached out to the sheriff's office and county commissioners who conducted a site visit in August and determined the roosters coops and debris on the property were in compliance with current regulations, which do not limit the number of roosters or other farm animals.

"I said, 'Can they literally stack them to the sky?' and they said,'Yes,'" Robinson said. "If they have adequate food and water they can have as many as they want."

"This can happen to anybody right now with the way rules, law ordinances are set up," Reubens said.

Reubens discovered several counties in California with rooster issues have enacted ordinances.

She proposed a similar one in Wake County, but the director of planning development and inspections, Tim Maloney, said he won't pursue it .

"This has not been a common issue in Wake County. We feel as though the situation they are experiencing would be better addressed as a civil matter in a court of law," Maloney said.

"So if this left here, they are going to go somewhere else in the county next to somebody else," Andrea Reubens said. "Does anybody really want this behind their house?"

The couple said they are now in the process of moving, but they expect selling their house will be difficult if not impossible, unless they sell it to someone who is raising roosters.

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  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:46 p.m.
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    Malakai Bluebone:
    What is the Ordinance number from the one you say you created in JoCo?

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:39 p.m.
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    FYI Property lines are a subset of a zoned area... The zoning for the larger set in which the subset exists is applicable to the smaller subset...

    That is how the property lines within zoning work.

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:30 p.m.
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    Malakai Bluebone:
    What is your explanation for only one complaint with all the other houses around? Why is it disturbing these people but not the next door neighbor that is about 10 yards away with no tree buffer?

    The Noise Ord complaint policy (2 diff complaint from two diff residences) is written so one household can't harass another and with the lack of other complaints the is the most logical answer... It isn't that bad...

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:24 p.m.
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    -Still looking for the link to the rooster 90db 100 yards away. (link please)
    -Still waiting to know how far I have to be from you before you can mandate what goes on in my yard. Im thinking about getting a beagle and want to make sure it is ok with you.
    -Why are you not going to the meeting you were amp'd up and promised to attend?
    -Don't you think it is odd if the noise is that bad no one else has complained?

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:22 p.m.
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    Now as far as childs explanation. I will readily admit I cannot follow your logic. You plainly said there was no noise ordinance associated with zoning but there is.

    Even a child can see you are changing your tune as you go hear. Anyone with any sense reading this would see that.

    Ordinances are enforced with citation that can lead to civil issue.... the same place wake county said this would be best to be handled.

    So basically you have talked your way back around to justifying the current system.

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 6:18 p.m.
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    The person with the Roosters is doing nothing wrong!!!

  • Malakai Bluebone Apr 21, 3:14 p.m.
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    Let me see if I can phrase this in a way even a child can understand.

    Your right to do what you want ends at your property line. That includes noise. My right to privacy and quiet ends at my property line.

    What you posted were ordinances based on zoning. All based on property line measurements, i.e. where the property meets the next property.

    However there is no penalty for breaking those ordinances or it would be listed. LEO's cannot do anything since there is no penalty.

    Not sure where all the assumptions are coming from, all my posts have clearly stated a position on the issue, and how I resolved it where I live. Made no promises, nor written anything about what another person does in their yard. Your posting of things you say I have written are patently false and show either an attempt at falsehoods or a complete lack of comprehension when it comes to reading. Either way I can't help either so I bid you a good day.

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 2:35 p.m.
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    I still say the most telling part of this is that it is only 1 residence complaining and they are not even the closest house.

  • Henry Cooper Apr 21, 2:25 p.m.
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    I know what the sheet I posted said. It was the one that didn't not exist to you in previous comments. You went from saying noise limits are not part of zoning to finding they do being a instant expert on how to interpret them for multiple counties.... just wow..

    -Still looking for the link to the rooster 90db 100 yards away. (link please)
    -Still waiting to know how far I have to be from you before you can mandate what goes on in my yard. Im thinking about getting a beagle and want to make sure it is ok with you.
    -Why are you not going to the meeting you were amp'd up and promised to attend?
    -Don't you think it is odd if the noise is that bad no one else has complained?

    I have asked some of those questions multiple times with nothing but divert and elude answers.

    It really is this plain and simple, regardless of any input you have or any desires to instill your bank of neighborhood morality on the rest of us, Its invalid per the LEO's (experts I would say)

  • Malakai Bluebone Apr 21, 12:52 p.m.
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    "And that may be 90db next to them but no way is it 90db 100yards thru a wooded area. Post me the link (you have asked in other threads for people to show their refs so don't be a hypocrite)."Here is the link you posted earlier; http://www.stewartacousticalconsultants.com/noise%20ordinance%20spreadsheet3.pdf

    Look at the second sentence on the sheet. I'll even post it for you below. Remember, this is your link you posted. These are the first two sentences on the page.

    Noise Ordinances with Measured level Limits in North Carolina. Limits apply on or at boundary of Complainant property unless noted otherwise.

    Second line, at Boundary line of Complainant property.

    Not through the woods, not across the street.

    Here is the Wake County General Ordinance area of measurement according to your link.

    Measurement 50 feet from source structure, or if not practical, at receiver right of way boundaryNow see if you can understand that.

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