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Vetoes could cost McCrory precious political capital

Posted August 23, 2013

Gov. Pat McCrory

— Gov. Pat McCrory is the first Republican governor in North Carolina to have veto power, but many political observers didn't expect him to use it on a Republican-controlled legislature.

McCrory has called lawmakers back to Raleigh on Sept. 3 to give them a chance to consider overriding his vetoes on bills that would require people applying for welfare to pass a drug test and would ease the requirements for employers to check the immigration status of seasonal workers.

He has urged lawmakers to sustain his vetoes, even taking to Facebook to rally public support for his positions.

The fact that legislative leaders had held power for two years in Raleigh before McCrory was elected makes it harder for his voice to be heard, said David McLennan, a political science professor at William Peace University in Raleigh.

"He entered saying things about certain pieces of legislation – abortion, several other pieces – and he hasn't gotten his way. So, at least right now, it would appear the legislature has, you know, one up on the governor," McLennan said.

Although McCrory was able to work with lawmakers on tax reform and other issues to reach a compromise, Republican consultant Carter Wrenn agreed with McLennan that the governor hasn't had much say in a lot of big issues this year.

"The veto is a power move. He's saying to the legislature, 'You can't count on me to go along with everything,'" Wrenn said.

Veto Stamp Overrides could give lawmakers more power over McCrory

House and Senate lawmakers say they're ready to rebuff McCrory – they got plenty of practice overriding vetoes issued by former Gov. Beverly Perdue in 2011-12, and both the drug testing and immigration bills passed with bipartisan support – and that could cost him precious political capital.

"If they override him, then in one sense, he's even weaker than he was before the vetoes," Wrenn said.

In the big picture, though, he said what the voters outside Raleigh think matters most to McCrory's political fortunes.

McLennan said he doesn't think the overrides will hurt the governor with voters, as long as he's made his case.

"Even if he loses, he stated why to the public he doesn't want these two bills," he said. "There's some problems – could be legal challenges to one, if not both of them. So, he may ultimately prevail, even if he loses the veto (vote)."

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  • wildpig777 Aug 27, 6:02 a.m.

    He's a dunce surrounded by a team of hapless know-nothings oblivious to their ignorance. In other words, unfortunately for our state, he's his Democratic predecessor's Republican twin.

    HeadsUp
    August 26, 2013 9:51 a.m.


    it certainly appears that way. i think perdue is the failure by which all politicans should be measured irregardless of party.

  • Cock a doodle doo Aug 26, 5:50 p.m.

    He is one and done. He has lost the moderates, he has lost the women, and he has lost those wanted something different from Bev Perdue. He completely lied to everyone about who he was and what he would be.

    He is an empty suit - he is a puppet for a few. An irrelevant governor. Spend more time baking cookies in the Executive mansion kitchen while you can Patty Boy.

  • davidgnews Aug 26, 3:10 p.m.

    McCrony is a lame duck, even in the face of his own party. The GA will steamroll anything they want.

    +1 for the dunce cap.

  • HeadsUp Aug 26, 9:51 a.m.

    McCrory's two meaningless vetoes are a total waste of time, and he will emerge from them even weaker. He should have vetoed the horrible star chamber bill instead, which the Legislature would not have been able to override.

    He's a dunce surrounded by a team of hapless know-nothings oblivious to their ignorance. In other words, unfortunately for our state, he's his Democratic predecessor's Republican twin.

  • AliceBToklas Aug 26, 8:43 a.m.

    Seems to me McCrory is irrelevant. The GA will get whatever it wants. They've been doing just that already. We have essentially removed the Governor from office in NC.

  • kdogwnc Aug 26, 7:36 a.m.

    These vetoes are for public relations purposes only. The Pope can point to these (which the General Assembly will override next week) and say: "See, I don't control everything McCrony does!" And they go back into their backrooms and shake hands and celebrate pulling the wool over the eyes of North Carolinians again.

    The vetoes simply give TillisBerger the chance to get the General Assembly back to Raleigh, and through some parliamentary loophole to spend not a few hours overriding the vetoes, but days or weeks working to turn the clock back another few decades for North Carolinians.

  • ILoveDowntownRaleigh Aug 23, 5:53 p.m.

    "Vetoes could cost McCrory precious political capital"

    :-) Oh please! Like McCrory needs political capital with his own Tea Party teammates.

    "The fact that legislative leaders had held power for two years in Raleigh before McCrory was elected makes it harder for his voice to be heard."

    Awww. :-) Being governor with bunches of $80-$120,000 dollar communications managers just doesn't get your voice heard.