Raleigh, N.C. — House Democrats came up short Monday night in several efforts to soften legislation that would slash jobless benefits as part of an overhaul of the state unemployment system.
The House voted 78-41 to give tentative approval to House Bill 4. A final vote is expected Tuesday before it moves to the Senate.
The bill cuts the maximum weekly unemployment benefit from $535 to $350 and replaces 26 weeks of state-paid benefits with a sliding cap of 12 to 20 weeks, based on the health of North Carolina's economy. It also slightly raises unemployment insurance taxes on employers.
Analysts said the changes, which would take effect July 1, would help the state repay $2.5 billion to the federal government three years faster than leaving the system unchanged. North Carolina borrowed the money to pay jobless benefits during the recession when state taxes paid by employers couldn't keep up with demand for benefits.
Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham, called the bill unbalanced, saying workers would lose $2.7 billion in benefits over the next four years while employers would pay only $24 million in extra unemployment taxes.
"Workers are taking a major hit," Luebke said, calling the benefit cuts "indefensible."
Rep. John Blust, R-Guilford, said that comparison fails to note that the federal unemployment taxes continue to rise on North Carolina employers until the debt is paid off.
"If you want to create more unemployed in the future, just try not addressing this problem some more," Blust said, calling the bill "the best solution out of a bunch of bad solutions."
The Republican majority was able to defeat amendments by Luebke that would retain a 26-week cap on benefits, by Rep. Paul Tine, D-Dare, that would raise slightly more in taxes to set the maximum weekly benefit at $425, by Rep. Kelly Alexander, D-Mecklenburg, and Rep. Deborah Ross, D-Wake, to revise the formulas for determining benefits and by Rep. Duane Hall, D-Wake, to restore benefit levels once the federal debt is repaid.
Bill sponsor Rep. Julia Howard rebuffed each attempt to change the bill, saying that the issue comes down to allowing employers to use their money to create jobs or having them pay taxes with it.
"If you who campaigned on creating jobs in the state of North Carolina, this is the No. 1 bill that you're going to have this year," said Howard, R-Davie.
"To say this is a jobs bill when all it does is cut unemployment benefits is a bit disingenuous," said Rep. Joe Sam Queen, D-Haywood.
Rep. Winkie Wilkins, D-Person, asked to delay the changes to the system until January so that people who have been out of work for months wouldn't lose their federal unemployment benefits.
A bill Congress passed on New Year's Day to avert the so-called "fiscal cliff" extends the federal benefits through the end of 2013, but changing the state unemployment program voids that provision of the federal law.
Luebke noted that the state stands to lose more than $600 million by ending the benefits early to an estimated 80,000 families, adding that most of that money would go directly back into the local economy.
Blust said people still have five months to find jobs before those benefits end, and Rep. Robert Brawley, R-Iredell, said it's time "to stop worrying about the downside of everything."
Although Wilkins' proposal generated the most debate of the night, it failed like all of the others the Democrats offered.
Earlier Monday, worker advocates and members of the Legislative Black Caucus railed against the proposal, saying it would devastate families dealing with job loss and would end up costing the state money.
"People on unemployment are not lazy," said Beth Messersmith, campaign director of North Carolina MomsRising. "(They include) parents trying to care for kids who need those benefits."
A majority of North Carolina's unemployed are out of work longer than 26 weeks, so cutting the length of state benefits to 20 weeks doesn't make sense, Messersmith said.
Doug Dickerson, state director for AARP, said older workers take 13 months on average to find a job after being laid off. He called for lawmakers to make more "reasoned decisions" instead of taking "draconian steps" too hastily.
The Legislative Black Caucus also criticized the quick movement of the bill, saying the changes under consideration need more debate.
"Let’s slow this train down. It’s moving too fast," said Rep. Garland Pierce, D-Scotland. "The consequences because of this legislation are going to be dire, especially in our communities where people are already having a hard time with no jobs."
Noting the loss of federal jobless benefits, Rep. Rodney Moore, D-Mecklenburg, said, "It’s a travesty that we’re cutting this lifeline so drastically at a time when we’re just beginning to recover."
Fourth District Congressman David Price even weighed in on the debate, sending a letter to the General Assembly asking them to delay the bill so that federal benefits could continue through the end of the year.
"Now is not the time to abandon tens of thousands of North Carolinians who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own and who stand to benefit from federal policy if their state government does not stand in the way," Price said in the letter. "Nor can our state, with an unemployment rate of 9.2 percent, afford to remove the projected $650 million in economic activity that would result from these benefits this year."




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With the end or severe reduction of benefits, the excuses begin to go away and people start accepting jobs that pay the market rate for their skills. People are remarkably creative. They will find a way to make a living when the handouts stop.
In Econ 101, you learn that the more you pay for something, the more the supply increases. That principle applies to unemployed people. Liberals don't want to admit it, but its still true. The better the unemployment benefits become, the more people will be there to collect them.
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February 5, 2013 8:40 a.m.
Real smart...
February 5, 2013 8:40 a.m.
February 5, 2013 8:41 a.m.
How long is long enough for a liberal? You actually believe there is a magic number of weeks and only the democrats know what that number of weeks is? Seriously, how many weeks should someone receive unemployment benefits???
February 5, 2013 8:41 a.m.
I guess you support communism then. Because the only way you will be happy is if the government provided everyone a job.
The truth is, there are plenty of jobs out there...but they are jobs that people don't want to do.
Also, if I were a hiring manager I WOULD NOT HIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN SITTING ON THEIR HANDS FOR 3 MONTHS!!
February 5, 2013 8:42 a.m.
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If nothing else, this will "light a fire" under some.
February 5, 2013 8:44 a.m.
February 5, 2013 8:46 a.m.
I love the assumptions and answers that so many people have." kornfan2448
That is absolutely not true. I garden, in the ground 12 months of the year. Sure, the winter months require different crops such as; collards, cabbage, rutabugers, turnips, all types of salad greens, onions, etc. , but yes, you can feed yourself with a garden 12 months of the year. Sorry you did not know that.
February 5, 2013 8:47 a.m.
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Me: This is the most common thing for folks on unemployment. The tiny minority is what most people think is the norm, which is furthest from the truth. The people so adamantly against any state assistance, like UE, are ultimately just going against their own self-interest.
February 5, 2013 8:48 a.m.
February 5, 2013 8:48 a.m.
And there you have the mentality of the welfare state!
February 5, 2013 8:49 a.m.
Go get you a darn job :)
February 5, 2013 8:50 a.m.
Sounds about right. Enjoy your Republican leadership NC.
February 5, 2013 8:52 a.m.
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February 5, 2013 8:53 a.m.
Oh and posting on wral all day how great our freeloader prez is.. lol get to work you bums :)
February 5, 2013 8:55 a.m.
Oh and you can THANK OBAMACARE (another thing the left deemed as a "right") for employers only hiring Part-Time. Yep, your "rights" are destroying America, while the true rights of American citizens are getting destroyed by Obama.
February 5, 2013 8:56 a.m.
February 5, 2013 8:56 a.m.
Folks...unemployment runs out, it's NOT a permanent thing.
February 5, 2013 8:56 a.m.
Me: It doesn't. That is simply not how unemployment works. If that is happening then people are lying and/or you are offering about half of what they were paid before.
February 5, 2013 8:59 a.m.
February 5, 2013 8:59 a.m.
Fact is, if your unemployment check keeps your family's head barely above water with paying the bills and putting food on the table and a McWage won't, why take the fast food job if it puts you underwater? That's stupid and no one should be criticized for not doing that.
February 5, 2013 9:01 a.m.
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We have to do it in our personal lives, government better learn fast to do the same because their only revenue is from US.
We can't afford their debt anymore.
February 5, 2013 9:01 a.m.
Really? so folks who have lost their job, can't find new work and are living on U/E feel they are "entitled", huh?
It never ceases to amaze me the level of hatred and contempt conservatives have for folks who have fallen on bad times and need help. That is what U/E is for....
How incredibly sad
February 5, 2013 9:02 a.m.
Yes, they do. And if you think your salary is reduced to cover it, you know nothing about market forces.
February 5, 2013 9:02 a.m.
And the extended federal benefits (57 weeks additional) are paid for mainly with borrowed money out of the general fund - that is why it was part of the "fiscal cliff" tax & spending "deal".
IOW, US taxpayers are on the hook for this "temporary" measure now in its 4th year!
How long to we continue to attempt to live off borrowed money or let others pay our bills? When do "temporary" emergency measures end?
When do we start facing our obligations rather than just kicking the can dow the road and leave our mess to the future?
To the entitlement crazy libs there is always another "crisis" calling for more "temporary" spending measures.
February 5, 2013 9:02 a.m.
another example of the "compassionate" conservatives.
How sad.
February 5, 2013 9:03 a.m.