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Posted June 26, 2008
Updated June 27, 2008

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— A public forum opened Thursday night to examine Wake County and the Triangle’s need for the development in of mass transportation.

At North Carolina State University’s McKimmon Center, the forum focused on transit’s role in planning for quality growth in other cities, including Charlotte. The recent proposal for regional transit in the Triangle was on the table, according to organizers.

In March, the 38-member Special Transit Advisory Commission said a combination of buses, rail systems and "circulators" is needed to help meet the Triangle's growing transportation needs and to help the region compete for new industry and better jobs.

It would likely be in place by 2035, when an estimated additional 1 million people are expected to have moved to the area. That would bring the population to about 2.5 million people.

Among its key recommendations is an enhanced bus network throughout the Triangle that includes express service to and from Raleigh-Durham International Airport and rush-hour-only bus service to outlying communities.

The group also recommended rail service from Chapel Hill to north Raleigh utilizing diesel rail cars and Light Rail Transit that would provide transportation alternatives in some of the most congested corridors of the Triangle.

The forum was presented by the citizen group WakeUP Wake County.

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  • inform Jun 27, 2008

    As if no one could have forseen society would outstrip it's ability to sustain personal conveyances continually increasing in size and power. Sheesh! It's sickening and disgusting to watch the area's traffic corridors thicken twice daily with traffic, belching plumes of gray air. Oh, for a public transportation system that works! Is it possible, is there a way, can it be done, does such a thing exist, how much does it cost, can we afford it, do we have the technology, why hasn't this already been done, what have our elected been doing while they were supposed to be about the public business, at the local, state and federal levels? Of course, the answers are self evident. It's not too late, however, there are those who will resist what's best for all, in order to satisfy their self-indulgent lifestyle. Thank God for high gas prices, may they continue to rise! Long live the revolution!

  • Six String Jun 26, 2008

    An interesting note in reference to subways: All of the mass transportation naysayers say that we don't have enough density here. They said the same thing in Washington, D.C. when the subway and additional mass transit was proposed there. Go take a look now -- the density has grown up around the subway and train stations (ok, as well as every other corner, too). Had D.C. not started when they did, the whole place would be shut down now. It's currently difficult at best, but better than it would have been. The subway currently serves over 8 million people per week. Raleigh needs some forward thinking people. Subway? Maybe not, but at least get to work on potential solutions now.

  • iamforjustice Jun 26, 2008

    We will always fall behind Charlotte not because of the population of Charlotte but Charlotte has visions. The best thing about Raleigh this year so far is the Wailers downtown free concert. Other than that. I just go home and then to work and the grocery store and back home and then to work.

  • iamforjustice Jun 26, 2008

    When Raleigh comes to the 21st Century then you will see a lot of improvments such as a rail system...but heck by then it will be in the 22nd Century. Seems we will always fall behind Charlotte.

  • iamforjustice Jun 26, 2008

    Senators Dole and Burr, along with Pat McCrory, kept the Triangle from getting federal funding for rail to make sure Charlotte got theirs. They also have shown interest in drilling off our coast and pray for oil. Any ecological damage won't affect them, as they all live west of 85. Reducing demand via transit is lost on them. We should return the favor and keep them from getting elected.
    ncwebguy
    I couldn't have said it better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • turnpike420 Jun 26, 2008

    djoraleigh - I think you are right, the plan doesn't even include this regional rail having a direct link to RDU. Talk about ridiculous... *sigh* Supposedly a later phase would link a spur into RDU (unless they have changed the plans since I last saw them). No one is talking to anyone about anything. Triangle Transit sat on their tail for so long and couldn't prove ridership, Charlotte could and they are also having higher numbers than expected so good for them. Then you have the RDU Airport Authority not talking to anyone and instead spending *millions* of $$ on parking decks when that money could have been put towards having a rail connection direct, not some side track or spur requiring transfer just to get to the airport... :( such a sad thing those trying to control our growth, they are WAY off base.

  • turnpike420 Jun 26, 2008

    STAC wants to raise your taxes AND vehicle registration fees to make this happen... all the while we have a TOLL ROAD potential on a part of 540 looming over our heads? The State is not talking to the County who is not talking to the City and it will end up one giant clustermess (rated PG for posting sake). I wish I could attend tonight and tell them to get their heads out of their backsides. Either way, as a Raleigh native, I'm extremely disappointed at how we are handling this growth. Sydney, Australia has 4.3 million people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney) and one impressive bus and rail system (and better urban density). We are going to be more than half that and our public transportation network stinks. If you haven't been to Sydney, it is a GREAT place to visit, I highly recommend it.

    thanks,
    http://www.notollson540.org

  • TheAdmiral Jun 26, 2008

    The TTA should be absorbed between Raleigh and Durham and those two agencies with Cary service the Triangle Area.

    The TTA is too small to be asking for light rail with no buy in from the public.

  • ncwebguy Jun 26, 2008

    Who is anyone to tell me where I should live, how I can drive, or even when I can drive. No Spin? I don't think so, comrade.

    The problem is 75%+ of the Triangle was built to ensure people *can't* walk to any destination -- work, grocery store, restaurant, etc. No one cared because gas was well under $2/gallon.

    Ridership numbers are pure fantasy, created by unrealistic formulas written by the current anti-mass transit administration. As Charlotte has proven, the cost per rider numbers are useless. Digging for a subway would be cost effective if we didn't have rail in place, but we do.

    Senators Dole and Burr, along with Pat McCrory, kept the Triangle from getting federal funding for rail to make sure Charlotte got theirs. They also have shown interest in drilling off our coast and pray for oil. Any ecological damage won't affect them, as they all live west of 85. Reducing demand via transit is lost on them. We should return the favor and keep them from getting elected.

  • bs101fly Jun 26, 2008

    how many years are they going to wste time and money on this issue?

    obviously you can't figure out how to get it correct RALEIGH, so give it up already!

    Get a power chair or scooter!

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