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Florida, Military Give Advice to State Transportation Committee

Posted December 12, 2007

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— The 21st Century Transportation Committee met Wednesday to discuss Triangle traffic and discussed a range of issues that boiled down to one essential issue: how to pay for new roads and fix bridges.

The committee, made up of elected officials, engineers and business people, is charged with finding solutions to transportation issues.

A representative from Florida explained how that state's Turnpike Authority focused on highway design and used different methods to fund transportation resources, including tolls.

Military officials said the closure of bases in other areas means the populations around North Carolina's bases will increase significantly. Officials estimated that in the next four years, 40,000 new people will make their home in the Fort Bragg area and 60,000 will settle in and around Jacksonville.

Committee members said those numbers will help them look at ways transportation can support that growth.

Several transportation advocates pointed to four factors stressing the transportation system and its funding – population growth, inflation costs that add millions of dollars to delayed construction projects, stagnant revenue and more people traveling more miles.

The group is also looking at how to relieve the state's most congested roads.

"It's scary," said Winston-Salem Mayor Allen Joines. "You certainly look at Charlotte, and that could be another L.A. Certainly, the Raleigh-Durham area (could be) another Washington-Baltimore corridor."

Several groups claim the state will be $65 billion behind in transportation funding over the next 25 years.

The group will draft a report to give to lawmakers this spring. Wednesday was the committee's third meeting.

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  • hdonthefarm Dec 12, 2007

    I went thru Kansas City during rush hour a few years ago. All along the highway were signs saying if you break down, pull off the road and a tow truck will be there to get you momentarily. And tow trucks roamed all over to do just that. Nobody stopped to stare at broken down cars, and the police seemed to be there to make sure everybody was safe, not to write tickets. Maybe we could look there for inspiration.

  • denverbob234 Dec 12, 2007

    For 20 years the traffic commitee fought the feds on the light rail system until the feds said we were getting it whether we wanted it or not, then they were all for it until W started spending all the money this country has on his war for oil. Then they pulled the money back and we cancelled the project. Now they want to look into what they can do to ease traffic. My solution is get new members for the traffic committee.

  • pbjbeach Dec 12, 2007

    TO TRUTHBKNOWN

    PLEASE SEND ME THE REMAINING BUCK FIFTY SO I CAN PUT IT IN MY TRUCKS GAS TANK SO I CAN STILL GET TO WORK. HA, HA, HA ,HA, IT'S REALY NOT FUNNY AT ALL IS IT

  • Not_So_Dumb Dec 12, 2007

    "Who's to say that people won't want to live in more densly populated areas in the future."

    I am not talking about what people may want in the future, but that is the future. Now, mass transit is a no starter here. Want proof? Trying doing it without government funding. You cannot. You will run out of money. Only by forcing everyone to pay for the service, whether they want it or not, will it happen.

  • jsanders Dec 12, 2007

    NC has so much transportation money going to non-highway uses that UNC-Charlotte Professor of Transportation Studies David Hartgen finds that the state could address its congestion needs without any new funding. The state and select regions could meet their needs by redirecting funding to relieving congestion:
    http://www.johnlocke.org/press_releases/display_story.html?id=242

  • whatelseisnew Dec 12, 2007

    Hey TruthBKnown can I have a quarter? I only have a buck left after taxes and expenses. Come on you can share, quit hoarding all that money.

  • whatelseisnew Dec 12, 2007

    Sorry wildervb but even at the price of gasoline today, I could still buy more than a years worth of gasoline for the extra property tax it would cost me to live in the city of Raleigh or Cary. Thats not even including the extra taxes like water, sewer, the tax because it rains (storm sewer tax), and so forth. It would take a lot more than higher fuel costs to get me to live in any of the triangle cities. But where people live is up to them. I prefer a little elbow room

  • bosoxbaby Dec 12, 2007

    commmittee, committee, committee!!!

  • Clownsruletheworld Dec 12, 2007

    There it is again, someone claiming that something up north works so well. If the Raleigh traffic is so difficult to contend with, please feel free to make an exit and enjoy the marvelous Long Island Railway in person.

    You are wrong about Raleigh residents. For the most part, as was mentioned before, they want a suburb where they relax and their kids can play, not to be stuck in a high-rise condo downtown where their kids can frolic with thugs and the homeless.

  • SheriffTruman Dec 12, 2007

    Not that Wikipedia is the last word or anything, but this article sums up the issues with Cloverleafs pretty well and documents some cases where older cloverleafs are being done away with as traffic increases in efforts to improve the service of the intersection.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverleaf_interchange

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