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Postgame Interview: J.J. Hickson

NBA Scouts On Hansbrough, Hickson, Etc.

Every year, in April, funny things happen with college underclassmen who are considering early entry into the NBA draft.

Many of the collegians say they haven't yet thought about their decisions, which in most cases is untrue. Others say for weeks that they "plan" or "expect" to return to school, only to change their minds closer to the NBA's early entry deadline (April 27 this year). Still others promise that they'll be back in college, but nobody believes them until the deadline actually passes.

Another twist is that, under NCAA rules, every underclassman is permitted one "test the waters" NBA attempt during his college career. This permits a prospect to file for early entry, participate in the NBA pre-draft camp in Orlando at the league's expense, and get direct feedback from scouts, general managers and other personnel evaluators. As long as the prospect doesn't sign with an agent or otherwise act as a professional, he can take his name out of the draft by the NBA's withdrawal deadline (June 16 this year) without jeopardizing his college eligibility.

Complicating matters further for fans trying to follow such things, the NBA directs all team officials not to make public comments to the media about college underclassmen. NBA officials communicate each spring with third parties (e.g., North Carolina coach Roy Williams and N.C. State coach Sidney Lowe this year) about the projected draft status of top underclassmen, but that information typically remains private unless one of the coaches or players volunteers it after a prospect's early entry decision has been made.

Below are comments from NBA officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the league's policy on discussing college underclassmen, on the Triangle's four early entry candidates: UNC's Tyler Hansbrough, UNC's Ty Lawson, N.C. State's J.J. Hickson and UNC's Wayne Ellington.

Name: Tyler Hansbrough
School: North Carolina
Class: Junior
College Position: Center
NBA Position: Power Forward
Current Draft Projection: Latter half of first round.
Early Entry This Year? TBA.
NBA Quote: "This is a common debate, obviously. Some guys don't like him at all as a pro. Others believe he'll be in the league — a good player, now, not a great player — for 10 years. Nobody questions his work ethic or his productivity in college. But he'll have to continue to improve his perimeter game and some other things to stick in the NBA. If he does that — and a lot of people think he will, because of his approach to the game — he'll be fine. I would want him on my team. There's just no way he'll be a post scorer up here the way he was in college. No way."

Name: Ty Lawson
School: North Carolina
Class: Sophomore
College Position: Point Guard
NBA Position: Point Guard
Current Draft Projection: Latter half of first round.
Early Entry This Year? TBA.
NBA Quote: "There's no doubt that he's an NBA point guard. (He has) the handle, amazing speed with the ball, good vision, good passing ability, and he's extremely strong for a player his size. Nobody is going to push him around. The question is, how much better is he going to get? He's not a great 3-point shooter right now at the college distance, so that's a concern, and he's only so-so defensively. If he gets better at those things, he could be a starter (in the NBA). If he doesn't, he's a backup, at best. But he'll play in this league."

Name: J.J. Hickson
School: N.C. State
Class: Freshman
College Position: Center
NBA Position: Power Forward
Current Draft Projection: Latter half of first round.
Early Entry This Year? Yes (will test waters).
NBA Quote: "This isn't complicated at all. If you're 6-9 and you can put the ball in the basket on a consistent basis against people your size, you're on our radar. Does he have a long way to go? Yes. Does he have a lot to learn? Yes. Is he ready to play in the NBA today? No. But it's no secret that a lot of teams in this league will take a chance on big guys with scoring ability, even if they have to wait a year or two for the payoff."

Name: Wayne Ellington
School: North Carolina
Class: Sophomore
College Position: Wing Guard
NBA Position: Wing Guard
Current Draft Projection: Second round.
Early Entry This Year? TBA.
NBA Quote: "I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but I don't think he's a player we would consider drafting right now. Can he play in the NBA some day? Absolutely. But let's face it: Right now, he's a 6-3 guy with a beautiful (shooting) stroke and not enough other things going for him. He needs to work on getting his shot off against quicker defenders, he needs to continue to improve his ability to put the ball on the floor, and he needs to get a lot better defensively. He's at a school where he can learn all of those things and have some fun along the way. I guess it's possible that someone would use a first-round pick on him (this year), but that would surprise me. If he answers those questions, though, he'll be a (first-round) lock next year."

Next Time: More early entry variables.

 

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Another post coming soon. Thanks again!

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, I was probably a bit harsh in my original comments yesterday due to my expectations, and now we are off course. Those following this exchange haven't missed any points though. And thanks for using 'small words' like you always do. Another tip that you pretended to have missed in the last post: We don't care about your numbers. We care about reading something insightful.

Regardless of your understandable defensiveness since I could have gotten the point across much more nicely, let me explain for you in different words what everyone else reading the exchange understood the first time. I simply didn't see the need for the super-secret anonymous NBA scout information obtained by a special handshake that wasn't any different or more insightful than what both you and I already knew. Save those special favors from those scouts for the real nuggets.

Just keep us posted on the draft stuff. T Thanks for reading!

Sadly, you've missed the point again. I'll try to use smaller words this time. The quotes are from NBA people, not from me. You're suggesting that I'm putting my opinion on a pedestal, but my opinion on these players is not even in the post!! Sorry you missed it, again.

Thanks for reading!

go tyler go...go ellington go...go lawson go....go jj go....good bye guys...it's time to move on...you won't be missed except by those diehard fans who alway say....gosh, if only tyler/ellington/jj/lawson had stayed...we would have won the acc/ncaa championship.....yah....sure....please go and don't let the smack you as you exit. bye!!!

RE : "I think what you're missing is that NBA scouts often have much different opinions on players..." Clearly they have insight. It is their job. But your article doesn't offer those 'much different opinions' that you mention. You offer generic player descriptions, and some broad predictions: "If he gets better at those things, he could be a starter (in the NBA). If he doesn't, he's a backup, at best. "

RE : "To the degree that they match your "message board viewing" in this case...The reality is, the opinions of message board posters mean nothing in practical terms."

The reality is that your opinion and mine are not worth much more, in "practical terms." Lets don't put ourselves on a pedestal.

RE : "My conversations...You didn't have the NBA viewpoint on these players before. Now you do."

I didn't?

RE : "The numbers suggest huge, huge interest..." Numbers. Oh. The title and coach name dropping for search engines will take care of that. I was looking for your insight.

Hansbrough is ready!!! He is as good as he is going to get at the college level!!! Why stick around and risk injury!!!

2 words for all of them - NOT READY.

Hansbrough is ready but will not be more than a role player. Lawson is too small and will be reserved to a back up status. Ellington is about a year away from the draft and needs to stay in school. J. J. could benefit from another year; but hey we go to school to learn a skill so that we can make money; and these guys can make it now. Overall go get it if you can!

I think what you're missing is that NBA scouts often have much different opinions on players than fans do. To the degree that they match your "message board viewing" in this case, I would have no idea and no interest. The reality is, the opinions of message board posters mean nothing in practical terms. My conversations with multiple NBA people offer a small window into their ways of thinking. There are times when NBA folks view prospects in similar ways as the fans, and there are times when they differ greatly. You didn't have the NBA viewpoint on these players before. Now you do. Sorry if you missed the distinction.

The numbers suggest huge, huge interest in this post. Thanks for reading, everyone!

I won't humor this useless article with the pleasure of discussing the NBA draft debate. Honestly, this told us 0 new information, and offered no interesting insight into the prospects of any of these guys. Come on David - don't bother us with an article titled 'NBA scouts on...' until these mystery sources have something to say that you and any other fan hasn't been saying since before the start of the season. If I want to read message board nonsense - I will just go there. I look to you for insight.

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