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Big Four Numbers Still Stunning, But 53-Year Streak In Jeopardy

During ACC basketball season, fans and coaches in states other than North Carolina sometimes complain that their teams don't get enough recognition.

Duke and UNC, in particular, tend to dominate the airwaves and the headlines. Maryland coach Gary Williams once said he felt as if he were "in Alaska," because his school is located so far from the league's center of attention.

The most blunt, honest reply to those unhappy folks is this: Get over it. The truth hurts sometimes.

It would be one thing if the ACC was North Carolina-centric simply because the league's headquarters is in Greensboro, or because its commissioner (John Swofford) is a native of the Tar Heel State and a graduate of UNC, or because its overwhelming television growth has included key relationships in Charlotte (Raycom) and Greensboro (Jefferson-Pilot).

But the more rational and more obvious explanation for the tilted coverage during ACC basketball season is this: Historically speaking, the four North Carolina schools have absolutely dominated everyone else.

(NOTE: Veteran ACC journalist Al Featherston tackled this topic in extraordinary detail in this week's edition of the ACC Sports Journal. His article also is available at ACCSports.com.)

Consider these staggering facts:

Since the creation of the ACC, the league’s four Tobacco Road teams (Duke, UNC, N.C. State, Wake Forest) have produced 45 conference championships, nine NCAA titles, 32 Final Four appearances, 71 Sweet 16s and 233 NCAA wins.

Meanwhile, the non-North Carolina schools have managed just eight conference championships, one national title, six Final Fours, 34 Sweet 16s and 95 NCAA wins.

Some skeptics have suggested that the Big Four's 45 ACC titles are merely a byproduct of the fact that 45 of the league's 53 postseason tournaments have been held in North Carolina — 13 in Raleigh, 21 in Greensboro and 11 in Charlotte. But the Big Four has won six of the eight tournaments held outside the state's borders, too. This year's event, by the way, will be in Florida (Tampa) for the first time.

Looking ahead, one hard-to-believe factoid about the Big Four's overwhelming success is in jeopardy.

Never in ACC history has the Big Four failed to place at least two teams in the top four (including ties) of the regular-season conference standings. (Many times, the Big Four were the top four.) This year, UNC is surrounded at the top by Boston College, Virginia and Virginia Tech.

Unless Duke rallies over the next 12 days, and someone above the Blue Devils in the standings falters, that's one long-standing Big Four streak that will come to an end.

Regardless, a lifetime might not be enough for those other numbers to balance out.

ACC Men's Basketball Championships


Duke — 16
North Carolina — 15
N.C. State — 10
Wake Forest — 4
Everyone Else Combined — 8 (Georgia Tech 3, Maryland 3, South Carolina 1, Virginia 1)

NOTE:  The league recognizes the ACC Tournament winner as its official champion.
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It's not that surprising. Everett Case pretty much put bball on the map in the southeast. Frank McGuire brought an early n'atl championship to the area as did Norm Sloan. Dean Smith pretty much set the standard for running a class program. With the exception of his language, Coach K has as well.

Combine that with the fact that until recently there haven't been any major pro sports team in the are meant that bball was (and still is) king. The NBA bores me to tears. Except maybe in game 7 there isn't any emotion to speak of, unless you mean the brawls that spill into the crowd. I'm sure most NBA players are good people, but you rarely see anyone except a bunch of whiney overpaid dysfunctional superstars charged with ________ (you fill in the crime).

Unlike techsolder, I like Ga Tech. I don't think they've done anything bad enough to deserve moving to the SEC.

For those skeptics who claim the big four win b/c the tournament is in North Carolina most of the time, I wonder what the distribution is for regular season champion in the ACC. Probably, North Carolina, Duke, N.C. State....Gee, sounds like the big four. Which is more difficult to accomplish, winning a 16 game regular season or the ACC tournament?

techslobber, the reason why college bball will always be the best sport is because our kids play at these local institutions and we can actually see their faces when they are playing, plus it has constant scoring/action, which makes any sport better...I love football too, but bball is just more exciting...

its not going to be the good old carolina boys this year, thats the why it goes. na na na na na!!!!!!!

Vanderbilt! Are you serious! Vanderbilt's academic prowess does not erase the constant corruption that floods the headlines when it comes to SEC football. Vanderbilt? Get real dude.

Vandy is a solid academics insitution as well Team-oriented does not equal dribbling at top of key for 20 secs NBA is a much smoother game and is helped by charge circle

Now hold on PRGuy. The SEC is known for academics. No wait, I was thinking of academic fraud.

Have to disagree with Techsoldier. College basketball is a more passionate and team-oriented game than the NBA. It is extremely relevant to North Carolina for cultural and economic reasons. I find it funny that he would advocate that an academically esteemed school like Ga. Tech should re-enter a conference not generally known for academics.

We wish the same Techsoldier. Your perpetual mediocrity in both sports makes for poor television entertainment.

I find it funny how people still find college bball so releavent. It is dominated by overcoaching, grabing, and guys flopping all over the floor. I hoped expansion would turn the ACC into a football conference but the powers that be have decided bball (a dying sport) is more important. I just wish Georgia Tech could move back to the SEC!!

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