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  • SomeRandomGuy Aug 27, 2010

    Life=80 years (or did according to DOC). Most of the people that fell under that directive have been in prison for 30(ish) years. They got FIFTY years off for "good" behavior???

  • Tarheelfan13 Aug 27, 2010

    This state supreme court decision will likely be overturned in federal court. The federal court judges are not elected but are distinguished professionals appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. They make rulings based on the rule of law and not on public opinion. North Carolina has changed the rules after the fact and the federal courts will likely acknowledge North Carolina to be in violation of ex post facto and likely order the release of the inmates.

  • Vietnam Vet Aug 27, 2010

    "The undisputed record reflects that Jones has fully served his term of imprisonment and is thereby entitled to immediate, unconditional release. The decision to the contrary offends all notions of fundamental fairness," Timmons-Goodson wrote.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Department of Corrections policy is NOT law? If you're sentenced to life in prison then as far as I'm concerned, you get out when you stop breathing and not before. I do call this a victory because there are dozens of inmates that are still in prison!

  • HeBlessesMe Aug 27, 2010

    Got a question for all of you so happy with this many convicted killers currently live in your neighborhood? Bet you'll never know unless you really do your research. There are many people walking the streets everyday after committing heinous and malicious crimes, they make a plea bargain and their life sentence becomes 5-10 years. And then they are our in 3 years. Yes, it happens EVERY day!!!! So I'm sorry to say, but this is no true "victory".

    By the way, I feel that the courts got it wrong in may wreckless vehicular homicides....they knew better (passing stopped school buses or driving way too fast) killed another child or their friends, and got a slap on the wrist. I'm more afraid of them than these inmate because they may do it again. They never learn their lesson!!!!!

  • whatusay Aug 27, 2010

    God forgives, I don't have to. Laws should not have loop-holes and killers should "NEVER" be released back into society. The judges that interpreted the law to release these killers should resign and take up something they might be good at.

  • Bartmeister Aug 27, 2010

    Can't ya just hear an appeal to the US Supreme Court now?? More tax payer money down the drain. They're in prison and STILL costing us more money.

  • skiallyr Aug 27, 2010

    These are probably the same judges that told us the inmates have a right to cable TV and air conditioning and better yet, a humane method of execution.

  • CuriousT Aug 27, 2010

    gregg45 -

    Forgiveness isn't about an absence of consequences. A lot of people get that confused.

  • superman Aug 27, 2010

    Just ask the inmates. Not a single one will admit they are guilty.

  • Road-wearier Aug 27, 2010

    "N.C. is slow to execute"

    Good thing, too. Just ask Alan Gell and Daniel Taylor...two innocent men on death row.

    I have no qualms about people staying in prison vs execution. Execute 'em and they're out of it, no longer having to live with what they've done and live without drawing a breath of freedom. Execution is the easy way out for a killer. I want them to live with what they've done, just as the victim's family must live with what was done.

  • colliedave Aug 27, 2010

    how can her hair be so black? are inmates allowed to color their hair?

    Provided they have no violations they are allowed some limitted freedoms, coloring their hair being one of them; but they must work (42 cents per day) and pay for it out of their funds. The same goes for shampoo, toothpaste, snacks...This is hard but it is what one gets for not obeying society's laws.

  • howdiditgettothis Aug 27, 2010

    Associate Justices Patricia Timmons-Goodson and Robin Hudson -- I will vote WHOEVER is running against you in the next election.

    You are not only WRONG, you are not upholding the JUSTICE for the VICTIMS!

    Criminals lose their "rights" when they commit a crime.

    Please don't tell me that they are owed anything. They are owed nothing.......but given much, including life, by my tax dollars.

  • silencedogood Aug 27, 2010

    As always, the Conservative minded Justices voted one way and the Liberal minded Justices voted another. Thank you GOD for these Conservative minded Justices, they got it RIGHT!

  • makeitright Aug 27, 2010

    bout time we hear a little bit of common sense out of our leaders

  • delilahk2000 Aug 27, 2010

    GOOD, LIFE MEANS LIFE3 NOT 36YRS...........

  • sniperdiver Aug 27, 2010

    Some of those lifers had death sentences that were commuted to life. They should have been executed a long time ago rather than suck p tax payers dollars for excellent medical care, housing and diatary needs to name a few things. These inmates write grievances and complain that there housing conditions and lifestyle are sub par. However, I am sure they have it better than our soldiers in war torn areas of the world. I've said it before and I'll say it again N.C. needs to step into the batters box and take a swing at executions once again. They can start with Blanch Taylor Moore "The Black Widow". N.C. is slow to execute and even more hesitant at executing women. Last woman to be executed at the hands of the state of NC was Velma Barfield in 1984.

  • think1st Aug 27, 2010

    Faye Brown participated in the murder of a North Carolina State Trooper. Good Ruling!

  • Weetie Aug 27, 2010

    Yes!!! It's about time

  • NCTeacher Aug 27, 2010

    Forget "good time, merit time and gain time"- what about HARD TIME?

  • Bartmeister Aug 27, 2010

    Now THAT'S Justice being upheld..........................

  • reality bites Aug 27, 2010

    awwwww that is so sad! i am so upset that they didnt get off easy!!! maybe next time they will think before they destroy other peoples worlds!

  • aintbackingdwn Aug 27, 2010

    Too bad....I was hoping they'd be released and face some real vigilante justice.

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Aug 27, 2010

    shortz time is up on the library computer

  • ncmickey Aug 27, 2010

    Those darn liberal judges.... oh wait...

  • surfnturf27 Aug 27, 2010

    Hey Shortz, If they DO let them ou... they can come live with you is that ok? Then when they commit the crime against YOU we'll take pity on them then...

  • IAMAmerican Aug 27, 2010

    how can her hair be so black? are inmates allowed to color their hair?

    I heard she's got a degree in cosmetology! She's probably had Cost Cutters on work release!!!

  • mchljam2 Aug 27, 2010

    tetermommy52 Good point! and KUDOS to you lambeau south! I could bairly follow the ramblings!!! LOL

  • garnertoy Aug 27, 2010

    Shortz if you had believed in God you might have not done anything to put you in jail I know theres a God

  • Raleigh Aug 27, 2010

    how can her hair be so black? are inmates allowed to color their hair?

  • tatermommy52 Aug 27, 2010

    'Associate Justices Patricia Timmons-Goodson and Robin Hudson said denying the inmates' release contradicts DOC policy and violates the human rights' Remember these two names next time you vote.

  • LambeauSouth Aug 27, 2010

    Wow Shortz ...sounds like your running shortz of your Meds

  • ncouterbanks69 Aug 27, 2010

    Shortz - Is it the stupid stuff you use to steal? I commend you however for not blaming someone else. That is a relief to hear. We do not miss criminals living elsewhere either believe me. Ya'll may all move to North or South Dakota or somewhere out of the way.

  • mep Aug 27, 2010

    It stinks when a life sentence actually IS a life sentence.

  • garnertoy Aug 27, 2010

    I was born and raised in North Carolina and I like calling NC home

  • IAMAmerican Aug 27, 2010

    i'm sooooo fricken glad i don't live in the screwd up state of north carolina any more.. everyone on this site that is saying something. sounds like cary mom's who waisted mom an dads hard earned money on school an stay at home now instead of using your brains for outher then spending money on stupid useless stuff, so yea i went to prison did my time as i said befor..I BLAME NO ONE BUT MYSELF..

    HUH??????????????? I am glad you don't live in NC any more either!!!!! I wish you would also stay off the WRAL website, which is in RALEIGH, NC!!!!!!!!!!

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Aug 27, 2010

    we r glad you don't live here either shortz

  • shortz1994 Aug 27, 2010

    i'm sooooo fricken glad i don't live in the screwd up state of north carolina any more.. everyone on this site that is saying something. sounds like cary mom's who waisted mom an dads hard earned money on school an stay at home now instead of using your brains for outher then spending money on stupid useless stuff, so yea i went to prison did my time as i said befor..I BLAME NO ONE BUT MYSELF..

  • carolinagal78 Aug 27, 2010

    Good!I'm glad. These people are where they should be. For once the system has worked like it should. To many prisoners are released and end up back in prison anyway. Yes people change. However they shouldnt be given the option to be free when they were sentenced to LIFE. Why should they be released on some while others have to stay. If you do the crime, you should do the time!

  • gregg45 Aug 27, 2010

    pbj has issues with dead bodies, i think u might be a collector of some sort of ,,,,

  • ncouterbanks69 Aug 27, 2010

    "Sounds to Me that Shortz hasn't been rehabilitated." - Criminals can not be rehabilitated.

  • ncouterbanks69 Aug 27, 2010

    shortz1994 - If you committed one of those crimes you should burn, not be out with the rest of us who do not commit voilent crimes. Thugs have no place in this world. Some of us work and try to make life as enjoyable as possible. We have no need for violent criminals. These two are better off than they should be, they should be dead. They get shelter, food and clothing. Much more than they deserve. Finally good news on WRAL...keep them where they are they need to die in prision.

  • LambeauSouth Aug 27, 2010

    Sounds to Me that Shortz hasn't been rehabilitated.

  • IAMAmerican Aug 27, 2010

    shortz1994 - You are not a victim; the Patrolman was a victim. Your trouble is of your own making. I was in Wake County Schools, no excuses!!!!!! Didn't you have time in prison to get a FREE education; law degree, cosmetology, Rocket Scientist, etc. Please don't say had a bad childhood. People are getting tired of hearing excuses for bad behavior!!!!

  • LambeauSouth Aug 27, 2010

    Hey Gregg, please get off your soapbox and think of the Familys that were torn apart by these Monsters before you spout your WWJD

  • shortz1994 Aug 27, 2010

    well i say to the people,, no i did the crime, no one made me do it, an i do not blame ANYONE for what i did. i do not blame wake county for my criminal ways i used to have. i blame my self, an what if i did murder someone, or rape or any outher crime in that range, like i said i served my time, as these people did. let them out. as for the stupidity,that people are saying on here, it is the old law they were sentenced under. 25-45 yrs is a life sentence. now the new law is a little differnt to explain. when you see 18- 16 months, they start at 18 months an work down to 16 months ( gain time)

  • LambeauSouth Aug 27, 2010

    OK, first off lets have a history check

    These outstanding citizens were sentenced to die, then someone decided that death was to harsh so they reduced their sentence to life.
    I believe we can all agree so far...........

    Now what happens is some Defense Lawyer trying to make a name or money or both decides that any prisoner should receive what is termed "Good Credits" which would reduce the sentences of MOST criminals, this was done to basically reduce the general populace in most prisons.
    What they tried to claim was never intended for lifers but for again the general prison population to again save the State money.

    The lifers found what they thought was a loophole and thankfully that loophole was slammed shut. Now to all of those who claim that there are Murderers running around, nice try
    it isnt happening and IO guarentee that Ms Browns case worker will rethink her status as well as others.

  • gregg45 Aug 27, 2010

    like im really scared this 65 year old woman can hurt me,, forgive and let god do it,, oh, i forgot the people here are all god fearin, i dont do no wrong, go to church , kinda people,, keep telling yourself, maybe it might work,, yes she did evil, wwjd??

  • pbjbeach Aug 27, 2010

    I have always been of the opinion that a straight life sentence was set to be 25 years, when these inmates were sentenced did their sentences state that it was life without the possibility of parole or not. The way to make sure that in the future cases of this nature where the intended sentence was to amount to a whole life / natural life sentence / let the judges sentence them to life plus one day an that will in the future rectify any farther mis- understanding about the use of the good time credits or the possibility of any future parole for inmates. It is my personal understanding thaT IF AN INMATE IS SENTENCED TO LIFE PLUS ONE DAY THAT THE INMATES BODY'S ARENT ALLOWED TO BE REMOVE FROM THEIIR CELL IN PRISON UNTIL THEY HAVE DONE THAT LAST ONE DAY THANK YOU

  • pbjbeach Aug 27, 2010

    While i personal agree that violent criminals quite possibly should be treated diferrently than the normal criminal i do feel that by the governor take the stance that she has taken quite possibly was more of a political stance for photo ops political advantage rather than her adhereence to the actual an practical ressons of the law. By her taking this stance she is deincentivizing any criminals attutides an behaviour while being imprisoned. i personal come down on the side of an with the two dissenting judges. But due to the nature of the courts of the land these days an especially at the federal level after the previous BUSH & CHENEY ADMINSTRATION that the entire u.s court system has been political pushed to the far far right an in my own personal opinion any attempted appeals of these prisoners attorneys would in all probability be for naught. In north carolina politics rules all in one shape form or fashion an these politicans care not about any form of fairness in regards to sence

  • ugottabkiddinme Aug 27, 2010

    thats right if cant do the time dont do the crime!!!!!!

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