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  • WRALblows Dec 18, 7:35 p.m.

    "GLAD for some of our Judicial System. Keep them there."

    They will. Long enough to determine there's no grounds for a hearing. Then they're out.

  • noreplytome2 Dec 18, 6:37 p.m.

    It doesn't matter really. The feds can't keep crime out of the prisons, so why waste money on "the system?" Gotta agree with 'The Eternal', an armed society is a polite society. The Swedes don't seem to have a crime problem, yet every house has at least one "assault rifle" (ohnoes!!!!).

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 6:33 p.m.

    I'm just curious. If someone is convicted of murder, and gets 50 years, and serves all 50 years, should they be released? If not, why not? If so, why so?

    Think carefully about your answer. Now think of these prisoners. They were convicted and served some of their sentence. If our system allowed them to accrue time off for good behavior, and that shortened their sentence to the point where their time is up, should they be released?

    If the former is different from the latter, I'd like to know how they are different. In both cases, they played the hand that was dealt to them. What legal reason do we have to keep either prisoner (in the above examples) in prison?

  • THE ETERNAL Dec 18, 6:15 p.m.

    Let them out. We spend too much money on the prison system. Everyone buy a gun if need be instead of paying for people to stay in prison on our money.

  • Sauras69 Dec 18, 6:13 p.m.

    GLAD for some of our Judicial System. Keep them there.

  • COPs eye Dec 18, 6:05 p.m.

    This topic is ridiculous their time is up...let them loose so they can be locked up again IF they commit another crime. As for all you that are so frantic about this topic...open your eyes there are criminals around you everyday and you are to blind to see them. Letting these 25 loose will not change the DOC system. It is broken and so is the NC government. I Should be governor....LOL. I couldnt possibly be worse than Purdue.
    Merry Christmas to all good night!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 5:58 p.m.

    "they already do the 3 things you stated 1st is probable cause and the 2nd is possible and the 3rd well we all know the govermaent does what they want to reguardless so whats your point or maybe we should just reright the dictionary on what the meaning of words are life should mean exactly what it says life but then agian illegal dosent mean anything either and theres a prime example of the goverment doing what they want to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    No, they do NOT. Probably cause is much different from the a random search. If they have probable cause, they have probable cause and that is written into the law. If they kick in your door without probable cause, in a random search, that is NOT legal. And anything they find in such a search cannot be used against you in court.

    You people just don't get it. You're like a mob with torches and pitchforks with COMPLETE disregard for the law. It's disgusting and frankly, more scary than any of these people behind bars, in a different way.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 5:55 p.m.

    "Whatever, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"

    Other than a police state.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 5:54 p.m.

    "Our laws have always be generalized in the wording "left open for interpretation" that is wht we have amendments to said laws."

    Not all of them. If you were right, we'd just have a big free-for-all for a government.

  • COPs eye Dec 18, 5:53 p.m.

    TO ME LIFE MEANS LIFE!!!!! ANOTHER DEFINITON FOR LIFE IS YOU GO IN ALIVE YOU LEAVE DEAD!!!! HELLO THESE PEOPLE NEED TO STAY IN PRISION B/C IF THEY HAVE KILLED BEFORE THEY WILL PROBABLY KILL AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
    arljsl

    Cut back on your caffeine intake.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 5:53 p.m.

    "Truth then I guess you are not following the letter of the Law. "State Department of Correction officials have maintained that state law prohibits felons serving life prison sentences from receiving good behavior credits for purposes of unconditional release from prison. The credits were awarded only for purposes of earning a more favorable custody grade, for becoming eligible for parole or for a commutation of a sentence by the governor"

    Hey, if that's the law I think it's great. Maybe there's a legal leg to stand on after all. I just want the law to be followed. I have no love for these vermin. They can choke on their next bite of food and die for all I care.

    If this was a change in the law, then any credits they earned before the change should count. Anything after that should not. I just want us to keep it legal, however this turns out.

  • Tax Man Dec 18, 5:44 p.m.

    Miller B - Agreed! They were sentence to death and that was later changed by the US Supreme Court taking everyone in the US off death row and commuted to life sentences. LIFE! Where to they come off thinking they should be out? Too bad Gov Bev cannot un-commute their death sentences and give them what they deserve! Definitely don't want these folks out in my community!

  • 4wheelin Dec 18, 5:17 p.m.

    What if the police just started randomly searching our homes, looking for any laws we may have broken?

    What if the government started arresting people for speaking out against government policies they disagreed with?

    What if the government ignored EVERY law on the books and did whatever they want?
    they already do the 3 things you stated 1st is probable cause and the 2nd is possible and the 3rd well we all know the govermaent does what they want to reguardless so whats your point or maybe we should just reright the dictionary on what the meaning of words are life should mean exactly what it says life but then agian illegal dosent mean anything either and theres a prime example of the goverment doing what they want to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • zachiarose Dec 18, 5:15 p.m.

    If any one forgot...remember the 4 police officers that were shot down in Washington not too long ago?....I believe the killer was pardoned at a young age...by Gov. Huckabee, citing his youth....? Just imagine how grateful he was to society, up until his bitter end. I will always agree that we are not perfect, and we all have made mistakes at one time or another, but we are supposed to learn by these mistakes, and if we choose not to...then we must accept the consequences. There are people who have left prison, after serving one crime, learned that they didn't like that lifestyle, and did become decent citizens. But when you get an offender, that obviously has a problem with obeying the law, in front of a judge every year, on three different bails at once, isn't it time to say...why do we keep letting them out...?? Oh yeah, because they were good prisoners, good behavior. The laws need to be on the side of the "good guys" once in a while......

  • yankee1 Dec 18, 5:08 p.m.

    Amen, MillerB!!

  • timothycapwell Dec 18, 4:53 p.m.

    "Furious" Bev wins this round.

  • Fisherwoman Dec 18, 4:49 p.m.

    This shouldn't EVEN be an issue! KEEP them where they are. How many times do we have to read about statistics... released from jail...only to commit a crime again! How many people have to die at the hands of others? Especially if they've already killed before, jailed and then released!

  • LambeauSouth Dec 18, 4:47 p.m.

    What if the police just started randomly searching our homes, looking for any laws we may have broken?

    What if the government started arresting people for speaking out against government policies they disagreed with?

    What if the government ignored EVERY law on the books and did whatever they want?

    If you want to keep these people in jail, you may as well throw out every other law on the

    If you don't break the laws you have nothing to worry about, you were the type that didnt follow rules werent you? drew outside the lines, a rebel?

    Whatever, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear

  • MillerB Dec 18, 4:45 p.m.

    Gee, I have an idea...EXECUTE them for the murders they committed, problem solved.

  • zachiarose Dec 18, 4:44 p.m.

    Okay.........so if I kill someone, and if I behave in prison, I can get time off for good behavior? Does that mean that the person who was murdered will be coming back to life? Memories of families left behind are erased....all is good again. And the horrible "unfair" law that used to consider "life as 80" is lowered? How cruel to allow these "stealers of life....a second chance to do it again? I hope, once the DNA proof comes in, or some absolutely positively actual truth...then let them do the right thing. I didn't know that these laws can really devalue the quality or quantity of a human's life, almost with the stroke of a pen.......

  • Cragsdale Dec 18, 4:44 p.m.

    something strikes me in the mind that the law can be interpreted or changed in mid stride if deemed appropriate and properly done. just like they did when they made the law that a life sentence was only 80 years, when before that law life meant either death by electrocution/injection or life meant you stayed behind bars til you were dead.

    So I ask to those of you arguing that the law is written one way, was it not changed those many years ago to say something different then, would this change not be a return to tougher times for criminals, and wouldn't you feel that tougher sentences and adherance to them would make criminals think twice before doing the crime ?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:42 p.m.

    "Repeat offenders is why I know they will, do you really think rehabilitation works? Staticically they will committ crimes again it's who they are, all they know."

    Then fight to change the law to keep them behind bars forever or execute them. When we don't like a law, we work to change it. We don't just ignore it because it's unpopular.

  • LambeauSouth Dec 18, 4:42 p.m.

    What say you about a system that would allow our government to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, with complete and total disregard for the law of the land and the Constitution?

    Please

    Our laws have always be generalized in the wording "left open for interpretation"
    that is wht we have amendments to said laws.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:41 p.m.

    What if the police just started randomly searching our homes, looking for any laws we may have broken?

    What if the government started arresting people for speaking out against government policies they disagreed with?

    What if the government ignored EVERY law on the books and did whatever they want?

    If you want to keep these people in jail, you may as well throw out every other law on the books.

  • LambeauSouth Dec 18, 4:40 p.m.

    Truth then I guess you are not following the letter of the Law.
    "State Department of Correction officials have maintained that state law prohibits felons serving life prison sentences from receiving good behavior credits for purposes of unconditional release from prison. The credits were awarded only for purposes of earning a more favorable custody grade, for becoming eligible for parole or for a commutation of a sentence by the governor

  • LambeauSouth Dec 18, 4:39 p.m.

    Repeat offenders is why I know they will, do you really think rehabilitation works? Staticically they will committ crimes again it's who they are, all they know.

  • wiseowl Dec 18, 4:38 p.m.

    LOL sleep tight Faye!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:38 p.m.

    "When a criminal who has broken the laws of the land has more rights than the victim, the system is surely flawed."

    What say you about a system that would allow our government to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, with complete and total disregard for the law of the land and the Constitution?

  • Armando de Cabana Boy Dec 18, 4:37 p.m.

    rcpearso: I'll answer your question. The 90yo lady that hit that child....that was MANSLAUGHTER. GET A GRIP! AS far as the 17yo killing his friend. Again, perhaps if that was your family member, you'd feel like that's murder and you'd probably have the right to feel this way. BUT it's not the same as murder, or being involved wIth MURDER!

    Having said that, the law is the law. If some loophole exists that will set them free, then you must set them free. That doesn't mean we have to like it.

  • Duke _Nukem Dec 18, 4:35 p.m.

    They need to be released immediately so that they may become productive members of society like the people they murdered.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:35 p.m.

    "Life to the people killed was right then, so life to the killers should be until their life ends as well...."

    The time for making this argument (which I agree with) was during the trial and/or sentencing. Not now. Not post facto.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:34 p.m.

    "If life was 80 years back then she still hasn't served her time. Good behavior is another story."

    Actually, it is not. It is all a part of determining if the legally-correct amount of time has been served.

  • SweetB Dec 18, 4:33 p.m.

    Judge Rand: WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED??????? NO ONE CAN BRING THEM BACK>>>> FIX THE LAWS. If these folks in ANY way INTENTIONALLY KILL then they should have to STAY put BEHIND the bars.

  • LambeauSouth Dec 18, 4:33 p.m.

    When a criminal who has broken the laws of the land has more rights than the victim, the system is surely flawed.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:32 p.m.

    "However, if they commit another murder, the judge that releases them is immediately dragged to the ol' wall of no return. How about that?"

    Lord help us when we want to punish a judge for upholding the law of the land.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:31 p.m.

    "This is what the death penalty is for. A murderer should be executed for their crime."

    That's a different subject for a different blog on a different day.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:30 p.m.

    "You should care, these criminals will commit crimes again."

    And you should care about a government that refuses to acknowledge ANYONE'S rights, including those of a convict that has legally completed his or her sentence.

  • Iwasasoldier4u Dec 18, 4:30 p.m.

    lilluke0 If you read what I wrote you will see that I do not disagree,but what it all boils down to is that these people were sentenced by the laws of that time, first the US supreme court struck down the death penalty not inmates, second the North Carolina legislature back in the seventies made law that a life sentence was 80 years and automatically cut all sentences in half making a life sentence 40 years and no comes the secretary of doc that says even life sentences can use gain time and merit days for release. All of this said it was not me or you that made these laws it was the corrupt and crooked in Raleigh that did it and now we have a governor that believes she is above the law and doing a lot of political grandstanding. If they are supposed to get out by law then let them out, if they are not then keep them in it is that simple.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 18, 4:29 p.m.

    I have no problem with their release being blocked long enough to figure out what the legal situation is. Better to err on the side of caution. But they shouldn't be held indefinitely if they have a legitimate (and legal) claim to be paroled.

  • Journey985 Dec 18, 4:27 p.m.

    So liluke, what about the man in Florida that was just released after 34 years in jail after being wrongly convicted of raping a 9 year old boy? DNA proved he was innocent...should he have been executed? Should he spend the rest of his life in jail? You and I do not write the laws, we vote in the people that do, if you do not like the laws that they write, then change how you vote, but as long as they have served their sentences according to the law, then they need to be set free. I am a democrat, but I will never EVER cast another vote for Bev Perdue as long as I live, and I will do my best to convince others to withdraw their vote from her as well. This has wasted taxpayers dollars that could have been spent on our schools or the tens of thousands of hungry children in this state..."sorry hungry boy and girl, we can't feed you today because the Gov. thought it would be wiser to spend the money keeping people in jail"

  • driverkid3 Dec 18, 4:26 p.m.

    iron fist
    Everyone will not be a repeat offender, rapist, child molesters yes but not all of those who have killed someone. Most will not repeat.

    Are you willing to take a chance that one of these murders or child molesters will not violate again? You want to trust your child or a family member with them??? I certainly don't.

  • countess Dec 18, 4:13 p.m.

    Life to the people killed was right then, so life to the killers should be until their life ends as well....

  • taa749683 Dec 18, 3:48 p.m.

    ran out of characters but yall get the picture...... thanks for listening sometimes you just have to say your peice..... Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year

  • lilluke0 Dec 18, 3:37 p.m.

    LambeauSouth,iwasasoldier4u,Journey985 and westral you can say all you want but what's the point of putting Life and death sentencing in books if convicted people, he or she can go to the library and look up the definition and add all his good time, work release time and deduct this from life or death sentence. Don't sound like a sentence at all, just a break. Life means just that(natural life) Death means(as soon as possible) not feeding you for 20 something odd years keeping you warm and cozy so you can go to the library too. All this is payed for with tax payers money. Give me my refund!!!

  • stevesdesk Dec 18, 3:37 p.m.

    This is not a judicial problem!!! It is a legislative problem.

  • dohicky Dec 18, 3:31 p.m.

    If life was 80 years back then she still hasn't served her time. Good behaviour is another story. Just because someone can stay out of trouble in prison does not mean they will when they get out. Wish someone had paid for my kids college education. Something just doesn't seem right about taxpayers paying for hers and most taxpayers have to borrow money to get their kids through college. What can we expect though. THe government is letting convicts go to prey on society, paying for their education sometimes - that is just the way government thinks. And some people want them to take care of health care. Funny!!

  • HeBlessesMe Dec 18, 3:31 p.m.

    To: didisaythat

    Since you seem to feel so adamant about these prisoners staying in jail, how do you feel about the elderly lady who killed the 6 year old by running by the stopped school bus? No one seems to want to answer my question, so maybe you will. She committed a crime and did not have to take responsiblity for it, because revoking her license and sending her home does nothing to bring the little girl back. What about the 17 y/o who killed his passenger driving 90 mph?

  • didisaythat Dec 18, 3:25 p.m.

    I did not know the judicial system was made so defense lawyers can work the law to get people out of taking responsibility for the crime they committed. Is it not to punish for breaking the law. And in most the ultimate law.

  • didisaythat Dec 18, 3:22 p.m.

    mea1001mea,

    You have got to be kidding me. How did they learn about life by taking one and then letting the gov't take care of them for less than half of their sentence. So a convicted killer is what we should aspire to. If they will be model citizens I do not want to be in that society.

  • teacher56 Dec 18, 2:52 p.m.

    Regarding Faye Brown, she served 30 years and did not pull the trigger. I don't know any particulars about the other male prisoner. She served her time. You can't bring back someone who died. Life is not fair. But, if these past 30 years have shown that Ms. Brown displayed good behavior, then I say let her go. I am sure she is a different person now than 30 years ago. We all make mistakes that have consequences. Some of our consequences are small and others are overwhelming. I think we should give her the freedom she has earned.

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