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  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 16, 10:11 a.m.

    "That would be true but you missed the origonal sentence DEATH then comutted to LIFE. It seems to me they did not serve their sentence YOU?"

    It would seem to me that everything was done in a LEGAL manner. If someone commuted a death sentence to life, then your problem is with THAT action, not them serving their legal sentence, less time off for good behavior.

    Look, I don't want them out. I want them to die and rot in prison. I just can't believe how many people want our government to act OUTSIDE their legal limits to do something they have no authority to do.

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 4:49 p.m.

    These people served their sentences BY LAW, and should be released. Period.

    That would be true but you missed the origonal sentence DEATH
    then comutted to LIFE. It seems to me they did not serve their sentence YOU?

  • hollylama Dec 15, 3:48 p.m.

    Which is costing taxpayers more...the complaint and appeals processes or keeping these people in prison for the rest of their sentences? Go with which ever one is cheaper..

  • Sessy V--V Dec 15, 3:40 p.m.

    wonder what she thinks of the preacher that just got out for serving 5 yrs for killing his wife

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 15, 3:25 p.m.

    "Those inmates get out of prison but the people they killed are still dead. It is time to Perdue to step up and show them exactly who is the boss. An eye for an eye, they should stay in there just like if it happened yesterday."

    There is confusion on this issue, and I think I've figured out what it is: There are TWO issues in play here. The first is what sentence should these people receive when convicted? The second is have they legally satisfied their sentences.

    We can probably ALL agree that we don't want people like this released back into society. But have they legally served their sentences? I mean, if someone gets four years for committing murder, and we release them after four years, can we really be mad that they didn't serve their sentences? No. What we are mad about is that they only got four years. Or that our system allows them to reduce their sentences for good behavior.

    These people served their sentences BY LAW, and should be released. Period.

  • Eduardo1 Dec 15, 1:47 p.m.

    Good going Judges. I hope that the sentence for the mother who beat & boiled her son would get reviewed by them. Overturn her sentence, after chemical castration, sentence her to life in prison. Her charges could have included attempted murder, battery, and others

  • GetRight Dec 15, 1:41 p.m.

    I understand those arguing an objective argument that the law is the law whether you agree with it or not. However, this is clearly a case of laws being misapplied and misinterpreted in ways they were clearly never intended. If 1st degree murderers can argue for their release based on perceived loopholes then surely they can be argued against in a similar fashion. That's what is going on here.

    This isn't about a governor trying to interpret the law. Bev Purdue is being a public voice against what most Americans would consider a travesty of justice and legal wrangling by some slick defense attorneys. I commend the Governor for this, even though I did not vote for her.

  • littleriver69 Dec 15, 1:38 p.m.

    Another reason NC is the laughable to the rest of the country. We have the "back woods" laws that make no sense, and yet we continue with them. Maybe if we voted out the "back woods" law makers we would be better off.

  • petarp2 Dec 15, 1:31 p.m.

    Journey What is fair about people sentenced to life in prison getting out before they die in prison. The governor is trying to get a law changed that is unfair. Think of the victims families. How would you feel if someone in your family was murdered and the murderer or accessory (after being sentenced to life) was going to be let out of prison because they have credit for good behavior. The law is wrong and that is what the governor is saying. And yes it is her duty to do what is best for the state of NC. How much of state money was spent for these two prisoners to appeal. They sure didn't pay for it out of their pocket. Somebody had to pay the lawyers and court cost. Who could it have been? Can you say NC TAXPAYERS?

  • Tax Man Dec 15, 12:18 p.m.

    Journey - she not only was riding in the vehicle but was armed with a handgun - she was not there as a mere passenger, she was a very active part of the crime and would have used her gun had she needed to. She may not deserve death but she sure deserves life without parole. She actively participated in the execution of a law enforcement officer doing his job - she admitted guilt and her own confession got her convicted. She needs to stay in prison until the day she dies.

  • OrdinaryCitizen Dec 15, 11:55 a.m.

    I could care less what happens. Both these people killed and I have no respect for either. Too many people here have thier panties in a bunch. Why should you care? Don't murder and you will be fine.

  • jurydoc Dec 15, 11:13 a.m.

    Journey -- you are mistaken. Being in the car with a murderer when the murder is committed after an armed robbery has been committed is NOT accessory to murder in NC. It is felony murder and the felony murder rule is still on the books in NC. Thus, if you are driving the getaway car and waiting OUTSIDE a convenience store when someone goes in to rob the clerk and kills the clerk YOU can be charged with capital murder. This is the current state of law in NC. Moreover, during jury selection in your trial, if the DA stipulates that you were not the "triggerman" he can ask potential jurors not only if they can consider the death penalty for first degree murders, but if they can consider it for NONTRIGGERMAN murders. If they cannot, they are removed from the jury for cause. Thus, the non-triggermen end up with a 'SUPER' death penalty jury -- only those who could consider giving death to a non-triggerman. That is NC law.

  • jurydoc Dec 15, 11:09 a.m.

    The Supreme Court of the United States ruled in 1972 that ALL death sentences handed down prior to that date were unconstitutional in their application. EVERYONE on death row at that time had their sentences commuted to "life."

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 11:07 a.m.

    Yes, The law is the Law but that is not the arguement. They comuted the sentece from death to Life, Fine. but then they cut it in half and then add for good behavior? that is the arguement.Lifers only get good credits for parole consideration, THAT IS ALL. Are they asking for Parole? NO they want a full release using the Martian Math. Please people stop the Polictical KAKA. It just makes you all look childish. Fact is these covicted criminals will be released WITHOUT supervision
    if your fine with that, let them move into your neighborhood, child rapists and murderers alike, you know what they say about strange bedfellows!

  • Journey985 Dec 15, 10:24 a.m.

    So diggit733....you're saying that someone that was druggedout of their mind and in the car while another person commits a murder should be sentenced to death as well?? She did not pull the trigger, she did not drive the car, this law was enacted to correct the miscarriage of sentencing years ago. Again I ask, show me a case where soneone is accused of accessory to murder is sentenced to death, or life in prison, it does not happen now BECAUSE of the Fair Sentencing Laws that were passed. I am not saying this is the case for all of the ones trying to get their freedom under the law, but in Faye Browns case, it is the right and LEGAL thing to do.

  • diggit733 Dec 15, 10:03 a.m.

    am I wrong or were BOTH of these people sentences to DEATH and got it changed??? So my way of thinking is this stupid rule doesn't even apply to them since their original sentence was death. You can't get out early for good behavior if you are dead. So I am thinking they already got their reward for good behavior..they get to live!

  • Iwasasoldier4u Dec 15, 9:58 a.m.

    I think the state might be missing an important point, what was the date that the people that were sentenced to death had their sentences changed to life and what were the laws at that time. After all the whole issue here is a life sentence being one of 80 yrs., and if they had the sentence changed after the law was changed to natural life then all of this legal wrangling is mute, and if they were not then it is still mute and what this governor needs to learn and learn quickly is we must follow the law regardless of whether we like it or not.

  • trojandnc Dec 15, 9:56 a.m.

    The LAW is the LAW! It has NEVER been about "right," "wrong," or "just."

    Laws are not just here to help protect citizens from crime; but also to protect those same citizens from the government.

    Just because you "feel" that it is not "right" for these two people to be set free, that was the LAW when they got their sentences.

    I really feel bad for the families of the victims in these crimes, but let us not forget that in North Carolina these people went to trial vs. THE STATE of NORTH CAROLINA not vs. the families of the victims.

    The North Carolina law was wrong in commuting death sentences to life without know about the "Good-Time" sentence deductions, but is was the Law at the time.

    If we don't let these people out we are as guilty of breaking the law as they are.

  • Journey985 Dec 15, 9:23 a.m.

    petarp2..."Their victims don't get a second chance to come back from death, why should these murderers." The answer is because years ago people voted into office the people that passed the laws that are giving these inmates the chance to do so. And it is not the Gov's right to go against those laws because it suits her and the people of NC. I am not saying it is the right thing to do, I am saying it is the LEGAL thing to do. As for Faye Brown, please show me in today sentencing where an accessory to a murder gets the death penalty or even life in prision. The law was passed years ago to account for unfair sentencing practices years before that. Whether we like it or not, these prisoners have served their time according to the law and unfortunately need to be set free. How much of the states budget is Perdue wasting fighting to keep these people in jail illegally?

  • ncguy Dec 15, 9:11 a.m.

    Unfortunatley the state made it's bed on this one and now they must let them go.

    While I do not want them released it was the deal the state made.

    How can the state choose what laws and deals to break? while you and I have to play by the rules.

    As for our Governor- does anybody really think she cares about this?
    If she does iy's only becuase of the public outcry- basically a PR move..

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 9:08 a.m.

    Since the governor can refuse to obey the law can I quit paying my taxes?

    Now that is a Federal Crime or are you saying just NC tax's?
    either way you might need her help when your in jail.

  • petarp2 Dec 15, 8:57 a.m.

    Why would anyone commute a convicted murderers death sentence to a life sentence. That is so wrong. If they were put to death when they were first sentenced the state would not have to have fed, clothed or housed them for over 30 years. It would have saved us some money and we would not be spending more money on them by letting them make an appeal about letting them out now. I agree with the retired highway patrolman who said yesterday that a life sentence should mean life. They should not be able to walk out of prison, they need to be carried out in a coffin. Their victims don't get a second chance to come back from death, why should these murderers.

  • Journey985 Dec 15, 8:47 a.m.

    AMEN G-man!!!!! Read my lips Gov. Perdue...NO More Taxes!!!!! LOL. Can't WAIT to see how the investigation goes into her travel issues!!! Maybe Bev can get a cell right next to Faye Brow? Seriously...what is this state coming to? To continue to allow Perdue to dictate who shoould and should not be let out of jail when a law was clearly in place that is allowing it to happen is WRONG!!!! And I again, I restate my earlier quote "I do not want to see these people free anymore than anyone else" but the law is the law, right or wrong!!

  • G-man Dec 15, 8:33 a.m.

    Since the governor can refuse to obey the law can I quit paying my taxes?

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 8:26 a.m.

    come on lawyers, get it right and hand bev yet another defeat! These people served their time, they now get to go free!

    Wow? Really? they were sentenced to die, seems they look better than their victims

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 8:23 a.m.

    I may be in a minority, but I feel that Faye Brown should be released. Her case is unique because:

    She didn't actually commit the murder, but was riding in the car with her boyfriend that did.

    She was on drugs and had no knowledge of what he was about to do

    Are you7 serious? Really this is a joke right?
    My god how can you defend this by saying "She was on drugs and had no knowledge of what he was about to do"

    If that is your stance, everyone in jail should be released,
    Oh jeez Judge, I was really whacked out on crack, I don't remember killing that family!

  • aerolove2k Dec 15, 8:20 a.m.

    The man is 54. He made some dumb decisions before he was even allowed to drink. If he signed up for an 80yr prision sentence, you can't demand a 99yr one, that's not fair.

    As for the good behavior credits, I didn't know they could knock 46yrs off of a sentence, but I don't think that's why he was good in jail. I don't think anyone with a life sentence expects to get released.

    Whatever the law is, they should let that govern their decisions, not emotion

  • LambeauSouth Dec 15, 8:19 a.m.

    However, if there are laws that dictate good behavior credits can remove years from a sentence, then she has no basis for her actions and is doing nothing but making alot of noise. Who knows...maybe this whole thing is nothing but plotical posturing. If anything, let's learn from this and fix the laws, if broken.
    The so-called good behavior credits were in the case of Lifers
    was for the sole purpose of Parole consideration, but remember these criminals were on DEATH ROW, not life sentences only after
    they removed the Death Sentence did they start this. Look if you are sentenced to die you are not neaded on this Earth anymore, A jury of your pears decided that and the law applied, if anyone is changing the law it is the Criminals not Perdue!

  • workerbee Dec 15, 8:12 a.m.

    The only part I don't comprehend is the whole idea of good behavior credits. Is this concept associated with a specific NC law? If not, then Purdue has every right to challenge the court's decision since it's not based on NC laws and I support her under these conditions. However, if there are laws that dictate good behavior credits can remove years from a sentence, then she has no basis for her actions and is doing nothing but making alot of noise. Who knows...maybe this whole thing is nothing but plotical posturing. If anything, let's learn from this and fix the laws, if broken.

  • Journey985 Dec 14, 7:40 p.m.

    sorry justcurious1488, Gov. Perdue does not make the laws in this stae, nor does she have the right to defy them same as you and i don't. I don't want them out either, but i do not want to see someone in the Gv't. branch think they can control the Judicial branch of our state. it s COMPLETELY unconstitutional. next thing you know she will be telling us that we can't wear white after Labor Day!!! Or better yet, maybe she will see your yard and take offense at how you decorate it for the holidays and run to the states lawyers and have them pass a law telling you you're not allowed to use green lights!! I use these examples because they are frivolous, wha these people did is not, but that does not give the Gov. te right to make up the laws as she goes!!!

  • ugottabkiddinme Dec 14, 7:33 p.m.

    WOW!! its amazing that these inmates have the nerve to think they deserve to be out..they took someones life,one of which was a law enforcement officer,the families of the victoms were robbed for a lifetime so why shouldnt they be in jail for theirs this is ridiculious just because someone missed interpreted some paperwork..SERIOUSLY?!

  • LOWES25 Dec 14, 7:29 p.m.

    Those inmates get out of prison but the people they killed are still dead. It is time to Perdue to step up and show them exactly who is the boss. An eye for an eye, they should stay in there just like if it happened yesterday.

  • Journey985 Dec 14, 7:25 p.m.

    very nicely stated RWVNRAL!!! Well, guess it's time for the rest of u in NC to go out and break all the laws we want o since the great gov. perdue does not have to obey them why should we?? This is tantemount to torture, these people have served their time according to the law and now we keep yanking back their freedom under the law. I don't want to see them free anymore thatn ANYONE else on here, but flexing her offices power over the judicial branch of our state is a violation of the states Constitution. Please, someone in Bev's office read this and let her know that she hs lost my vote, along with thousands of others outraged by her flagarant defiance of the law she has taken an oath to uphold. Sorry Bev, you do not get to pick and choose what laws you are going to obey!!!

  • uropinionmatters Dec 14, 6:43 p.m.

    What is her point?? This has happened before and until the law is changed it will happen again . Oh..... I get it not under Bev's watch. She is making a point, next thing we'll see her do some jail time for contempt of court as she mentioned before. I will say it might not be personally about these two individual prisoners but if she does not halt this release then the others that I am much more concerned about will be released as well. I am eager to see how this is going to turn out.

  • RWVNRAL Dec 14, 6:37 p.m.

    Bev Purdue has obviously no comprehension or respect for the Western tradition of law. She is handling this entire affair in a dangerous and cavalier fashion. If she, as the executive, can run roughshod over the judiciary in her fight to keep these "violent felons" off the street, then how can she be stopped from deciding, willy-nilly, to refuse the release of any other inmate? Since when does the governor get to decide punishment? It's certainly not Constitutional....and if she gets away with it in this instance, there is nothing to prevent her from doing it any other instances. Before long, the judicial branch of government will be little more than a sounding board for the executive branches occasional forays into demagoguery and political grand-standing. These tactics on the part of Gov. Purdue threaten the very foundations of liberty and the democratic tradition. She MUST be stopped.

  • COPs eye Dec 14, 5:59 p.m.

    The court has spoken....release them. I dont agree but the law is law and bev purdue is playing people for fools acting like she can do something about it. A judge finally does something that makes sense under the current law and now people want to gripe about it!!!! Society will never be satisfied.

  • time4real Dec 14, 5:59 p.m.

    come on lawyers, get it right and hand bev yet another defeat! These people served their time, they now get to go free!

  • Thought Criminal WS Dec 14, 5:48 p.m.

    Great Dane Guy, the rest of the show is coming. Make some popcorn, the politicians are going to entertain us all the way to election time with this one.

  • batricia1 Dec 14, 5:42 p.m.

    Right or Wrong should we not stand by our laws that were made and our goverment inforce the laws as they are or were and not what they want

  • olando505 Dec 14, 5:41 p.m.

    I may be in a minority, but I feel that Faye Brown should be released. Her case is unique because:

    She didn't actually commit the murder, but was riding in the car with her boyfriend that did.

    She was on drugs and had no knowledge of what he was about to do

    she has been on work release for a number of years, working a job that pays normally about 10.00 an hour, however since she is in prison, she earns the prison wage of $ .60 an hour (the rest of the money goes to the state)

    There is more to this issue than people think, and just because it says "murderer" doesn't mean the person actually committed murder. By law, if you are with a person during the committing of the crime, you can be charged with that crime in murder cases.

  • Great Dane Guy Dec 14, 5:26 p.m.

    Reading the story on another local news caster that actually reported some information, the Court of Appeals ruling was a temporary stay of the decision to release the inmates until full arguments can be heard by the Court of Appeals. This is not over, and I sure wished WRAL would report more than half of a story.

  • judagar Dec 14, 5:12 p.m.

    This is where the opponents of the death penalty don't get it! They say, Communte to life sentence! Why???? They will get out and do it again!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 14, 5:11 p.m.

    I do hope they find a LEGAL way to keep them in prison. But I'm afraid they probably won't. If they don't, then they should be released. If not, I'm more scared of a government out of control than I am of any inmate committing another crime.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Dec 14, 5:10 p.m.

    "Their releases have been Halted!"

    As long as the letter of the law is being followed, I have no problem with this. I'm guessing once the appeals have been exhausted, they will be released. That is because there is no LEGAL reason to keep them in prison once they've served their time as was defined for them based on their sentencing, time off for good behavior and their eligibility for parole.

    Ironically, you're happy because the law is being followed. A LEGAL appeal happened. What if this LEGAL appeal didn't happen because the majority of us didn't want it to happen? I suppose you'd be upset about that, wouldn't you? Do you see the problems that arise when we DON'T follow our own laws???

  • wildcat Dec 14, 4:58 p.m.

    Not going to happen any time soon. Gov. Bev Purdue will see to that.

  • Faceman Dec 14, 4:57 p.m.

    WOW..2054..now thats how Life sentences should be..LIFE!!

  • LambeauSouth Dec 14, 4:54 p.m.

    Gotsome, it's called a loophole and is the job of any good defense lawyer to find it. It make no difference if wrong or right. They had their appeals why was this never brought up?
    you are all missing the point, ask yourself how you go from Death Row to release???????

  • SouthernLady05 Dec 14, 4:53 p.m.

    She's served what.... 34 Years of an 80 year sentance? It makes no sense how good behaviour can equal more years than she's served... in this case her good behaviour equals 46 years?

  • SouthernLady05 Dec 14, 4:51 p.m.

    "She was convicted 34 years ago of murder and sentenced to death after she and two acquaintances robbed a bank and one of the men shot a state Highway Patrol trooper"

    She should have been put to death a reasonable time after she was sentenced, but no... she had her sentance commuted. She knew they were robbing a bank, and any murder committed in the act of a felony (bank robbery) is Capital Murder.

  • apoea Dec 14, 4:45 p.m.

    She was convicted 34 years ago of murder and sentenced to death after she and two acquaintances robbed a bank and one of the men shot a state Highway Patrol trooper

    This is copied a pasted from the other article. I guess was originally sentenced to the death penalty for being with the man who actually killed the trooper.

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