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MajorLeagueinfidel Oct 30, 8:54 a.m.
So say a Judge convicts someone for an assault/murder charge and sends them to Jail...the Governor at that time disagrees with the decision and orders the DOC to release this person....Would that be Okay?
The Governor's ex-business partner is charged with fraud and sentenced...the Governor decides to block that sentence and have the person released...Would that be Okay?
You are accused of a crime and the Judge finds you not guilty, your Governor disagrees with the Judge and sends you to Jail...
Would that be Okay?
OSX Oct 29, 7:42 p.m.
Watch all of these clowns sue the state for millions of dollars. I want to laugh but it isn't funny because they will probably win.
affirmativediversity Oct 29, 7:06 p.m.
So let me get this straight...
The law at the time of his/their crime was "Life" equals "80 Years with "NO Good Time Credits"...hmmmmm,
Then the law stated "Life" equals "Life" again with "NO Good Time Credits"....
Then someone (no one has really said who or when or why or by what authority...but for the sake of argument lets pretend it was some one with authorit)...someone said, "Life" should mean the "80 Years" but with "One Good Day for Every Day Served" (by the way is a Good Day earned by having a Good Day or do you get them on Bad Days too)...again, I digress...80 - good time of 40 years = 40 years....
Hmmmm, has any of these prisoners Max'd out their 40 years yet in order to earn the 40 years good time?
How about why does the law at the time they are sentence only apply if means less time but if the law changed that means less time that counts too? Which is it...the law when they were convicted or the law now or the law when most convenient for them?
jdixon2 Oct 29, 7:02 p.m.
In a civics class in High School (when life was equal to 80 years), that people convicted and sentenced to life could get out before they spent 80 years in prison. However, they could give a person life and a day. They would have to serve their life sentence first, then the day (no loop holes).
The courts have spoken. They should be freed. If the governor wanted them to stay, why hasn't she been in court fighting it. A Preliminary injunction maybe? If the inmates aren't released, the court should hold her in contempt. Not just a verbal, Gov, you're in contempt of court, but, maybe some time in a jail cell herself.
Living and Loving in NC Oct 29, 6:24 p.m.
God Bless The Govener! Nice to see an elected official looking out for the interests of free citizens!
Tarheelfan13 Oct 29, 5:38 p.m.
The bottom line boils down to the fact that the only leverage the state has is on the credits issue. The inmates have "ex post facto" in their favor so the NC General Assembly is utterly powerless to pass a law keeping these inmates in prison. The reason being is that "ex post facto" is forbidden in the United States Constitution. I'm not happy about the inmates being released but it is basically inevitable now. I said it in another previous thread but this is why our lawmakers need to pay attention to detail in the verbage of legislation. And it would not surprise me if a federal court ends up ordering the inmates released.
roe Oct 29, 5:08 p.m.
You all kill me if you were so concerned about these people being released then you should have read the law when it was implemented now that time has approached for their release you all want to get on the bandwagon to keep them locked away. Well Gov Perdue you should have been well aware of these different laws when you took the oath. You are busy closing different prison facilities throughout NC. You should have been on top of these laws before you thought about closing these prisons. If these people have done their time you need to release them......Keeping them locked up will not improve your rating with the voting people.......
ZIPPER RECURVE Oct 29, 5:03 p.m.
All of you that say it's OK to let them out early. Please sign up to take one or two reformed killers to live with you. The rest of us are more than quite happy with their location now at the cross bar hotel.
lorivalentine1 Oct 29, 4:49 p.m.
Ohh poor poor man.. who does not get to go to church this weekend. You should have thought of that before you killed some one. Life means life..
NCAries Oct 29, 4:42 p.m.
Crime doesn't pay. Stay in prison!
Yes it does...lawyers, doctors, funeral homes, politicians, CEOs, senators, ex-governors, ex-presidents...the list goes on and on...
Wake1 Oct 29, 4:40 p.m.
All you posting that these guys should be released - I hope they come & settle in right next to you - then we'll see how quickly you change your mind. I applaud the Governor for taking a stand for common sense!! Oh yeah, those of you who say she is breaking the law - at least she didn't take anyone's life!
NCAries Oct 29, 4:40 p.m.
And what is equal or greater punishment? Just asking? Who decides that? Is it relative to the victim?
I don't know how I would react. Maybe that $100 is to the person who stole what they thought the $1000 was to me. Money is a material thing...work or whatever you do to get it and you'll get more...I have yet to be able to put a dollar value on human life...if I did though...you know what they say...one man's junk is another man's treasure. What is of value to me may mean nothing to anyone else and vice versa. Personally I don't believe there is any real punishment aside from what goes on in the criminals own brain and heart. Some change...some don't.
Spirit Warrior Woman - Rev. RB Oct 29, 4:36 p.m.
As long as someone didn't behave in prison, they shouldn't ever be released.
If they did behave, however, especially in the past ten (10) years, they should be considered for release.
007KnightRider Oct 29, 4:16 p.m.
The first sentence of this story read "James Pone planned to attend church with his mother this Sunday and start a new life with his girlfriend."
Buddy, you should have thought about that before you killed someone. Your victim may have had the same idea before you killed them. Crime doesn't pay. Stay in prison!
Rdi73162 Oct 29, 3:52 p.m.
And who gets to decide when you've paid enough? NCaries
you`ve paid enough when you give equal or greater punishment.
is someone stole $1,000 dollars from you, would you considered they`ve paid enough if they offer $100 back to you? no, you`d atleast want all your money back. if not more. If someone kills someone for $20, you really think 40 yrs is equal payment?
NCAries Oct 29, 3:48 p.m.
Look at the Easley's. They did not get away with anything.
Not yet they haven't...but it ain't over...he's being grilled by a group of his peers and appointees in a good ole boy system environment...he's probably going to get away with plenty.
NC is my home Oct 29, 3:40 p.m.
What about "LIFE SENTENCE" does the DOC not understand? The only way they should get out is to be buried. DOC doesn't care about the public welfare & safety. All they want to do is have fewer inmates to handle. If anyone insists on a shorter sentence, we can execute & save the money of bed & board!
NCAries Oct 29, 3:34 p.m.
Laws are also made to be broken.
Yep...and Bev is trying her best to break one. Kind of makes you wonder which victims family is in a position to do political favors or maybe she's just trying to win potential votes.
NCAries Oct 29, 3:29 p.m.
If you have the audicity to take another person's life, than you should not have the right to your own.
And since you are in favor of him losing his life what makes you any better than him? Is it because it will be by some hand other than yours directly? Now a days it seems Hypocrisy Rules!!!!
NCAries Oct 29, 3:18 p.m.
This is so funny...you people think these people should rot in prison for the crimes they committed because the victims can't come back and the victims or their family and friends left behind are still holding grudges...yet you are the same people that say minorities that hold a grudge against the majority for slavery and the other racist systems and institutions that evolved as a result of slavery and are very much alive today should just get over it...too funny.
mrr03 Oct 29, 3:17 p.m.
Here is a novel idea for the Governor...Follow the letter of the law and stop trying to skirt what the North Carolina Supreme Court has already ruled on..The inmates should file a class action suit for false imprisonment since the Courts have ruled that they should be FREE..immediately!!
duster 340 Oct 29, 3:06 p.m.
You don't bother these prisoners and they will not bother you.
Well who bother the taxi driver and now he DEAD? Professor
NCAries Oct 29, 3:03 p.m.
Now they are going to be released on a technicality? One of the big problems with our country is Too many Laws ,Too many Lawyers and Judges trying to protect the guilty.
It's not a technicality...it's the law. They broke the law to get here and the gov is going to break the law to keep them there...real good.
NCAries Oct 29, 3:01 p.m.
God does forgive don't get me wrong, but you have to pay for what you have done.
And who gets to decide when you've paid enough?
duster 340 Oct 29, 2:57 p.m.
James Pone, 48, was convicted of second-degree murder in the 1978 death of cab driver Neil Purdie. Purdie was found beside his taxi, dead from a blow to the head and a gunshot wound to his chest. Keep saying to your self blow to the head and gunshot also to this poor driver .
G-man Oct 29, 2:53 p.m.
rdi73162, Not that i want them released, by if you do a search of sex offenders living in your county, you might be surprised how close they already are.
jprime Oct 29, 2:49 p.m.
I dont want these people released, however, I REALLY dont want politicians to start openly not following the law. This is a slippery slope people.
Some inmates may be released, but what needs to happen is to make a change to the law that allowed them legal release.
Professor Oct 29, 2:46 p.m.
Professor Oct 29, 2:46 p.m.
Hooray for the Supreme Court in releasing the prisoners? You guys are great!
Professor Oct 29, 2:45 p.m.
All these prisoners will be home by Christmas. The Supreme Court will free them. Stay tune.
Professor Oct 29, 2:42 p.m.
incarcerated in prison for over 30 years manages to get a girlfriend?
October 29, 2009 2
Yes, she visits him. Prisoners can write and have visits. Check it out. You may find someone is interesting to you.
Professor Oct 29, 2:39 p.m.
oh, wait, you mean released into society but not my neigherhood???
Will not bother me one bit. You don't bother these prisoners and they will not bother you. They do have a right to live in a house even being your neighbors. I suggest you be a little friendly and get to know your new neighbor.
rtpduder Oct 29, 2:39 p.m.
My previous comment was censored by WRAL, so let me try again. Can someone explain to me how someone, like James Pone, incarcerated in prison for over 30 years manages to get a girlfriend?
Rdi73162 Oct 29, 2:26 p.m.
Those of you who say the law is the law on this and the prisoners deserve a chance to succeed in society be sure to send your name and Address to the DOC so they can check your neighborhood for any available housing for the murders.... oh, wait, you mean released into society but not my neigherhood???
Professor Oct 29, 2:22 p.m.
but stop with this 'breaking the law' stuff.
That is exactly what Purdue is doing but the Supreme Court is well aware of her actions and is not going to allowed it. She may find herself in the hotseat if she don't stop. The Supreme Court will rule on this and nothing Bev. Purdue will be able to do about it. That will be the funny part. She will not have the power of authority. lol lol Show her Supreme Court who is in charge. lol
Raptor06 Oct 29, 2:12 p.m.
I'm surprised all you "birthers" and "Return our country" folks haven't figured out that the "law" serves our society, not vice versa. Now, some of you are screaming "the law is the law." President Obama is an American by birth, by law, but you haven't let that stop your politically-inspired accusations.
Now, these murders should be released ONLY when their dead victims emerge from their graves. Law making can't be left up to the politicians. Like George Washington said, politicians tend to forget who they work for.
Professor Oct 29, 2:05 p.m.
I'll tell them to talk to Bev, if she does not have to follow the law, then why should the rest of us?
Good comment! Purdue will have to follow the law. Look at the Easley's. They did not get away with anything.
Journey985 Oct 29, 1:59 p.m.
I agree with citizen782, While I do not want to see these people on the streets anymore than the rest of us, WHO is Gov. purdue think she is defying the law? Hey, next time I am speeding down the road and get pulled over I'll tell them to talk to Bev, if she does not have to follow the law, then why should the rest of us?
Professor Oct 29, 1:58 p.m.
I am all for forgiveness but these convicted murderers and rapists need to be kept where they are at.
When the prisoners have served their time as per law, then the prisoners will have to be released regardless what one may think or feel. In this case it will be up to the Supreme Court. The law is the law and intended to be follow through and obeyed.
Professor Oct 29, 1:53 p.m.
I still don't believe that Gov. Purdue will be able to go over the head of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will have the last word.
Prisoners did not make the law, the NC leaders made the law and now that particular law has come back to bite them. OUCH!
Seeminglyopposed Oct 29, 1:45 p.m.
I am all for forgiveness but these convicted murderers and rapists need to be kept where they are at. They had choices and they made them, now they must pay for their actions, and if they were really saved, they would realize that, for they would have accepted the fact that even thou, God forgive us, we are given choices and when we make the wrong one, we must endure the consequences that goes with them. So when they took the lives of the people, they must suffer the consequences, now they can help those they come through the system that don't have life, and some day may get out and live a better life. But it is what it is....church is within...not the building you want to go to on Sunday.so that just a sad story not worthy nothing but jailhouse religion rhetoric so often heard and found.
csplantlover Oct 29, 1:41 p.m.
You just gotta feel bad for these folks who thought they might be getting out and then good ole Bev puts the kibosh on it! She's a piece of work. Possibly they may need more time in there. Who knows. BUT.......if they've paid their time according to the law AT THE TIME, who is she to twist it to fit what she believes now.......I guess the higher courts will decide.
makeitright Oct 29, 1:02 p.m.
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Drakula_I_G Oct 29, 12:50 p.m.
LOOK - WILL YOU FOLKS KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE "SHE'S BREAKING THE LAW" STUFF?
The governor is not breaking the law - a court order is not "law," it's just that - a court order. This will be challenged in a higher court and the legislature may also (in my dreams) address the issue to keep these crooks behind bars.
Disagree with her stance if you must, but stop with this 'breaking the law' stuff.
chfdcpt Oct 29, 12:47 p.m.
Someone has already mentioned ex post facto laws, which are illegal; therefore, we cannot pass a law to keep them in prison.
This was all done in the late 70's and early 80's due to the severe overcrowding of the NC Prison system; which was getting ready to be taken over the the feds over lawsuits. The structured sentence act is the one that gave them day for day credit, thus lowering the prison cap.
And where was all this anger almost a year ago? That is ok; I have complete faith that the sheep will forget about all of this by 2012.
octmomy Oct 29, 12:44 p.m.
some of these set to be relased have many infractions since being in prison from sexual asslat to fighting to even weapons I say they stay put they the victims didn't get a second chance so why should they....
OrdinaryCitizen Oct 29, 12:41 p.m.
"insinuate the anyone who reads the bible is insane."
Not everyone but the ones who make their argument that the death penalty should not be allowed cause the bible says so. I know many of them that use this arguement, actually they use the bible excuse for every argument. These are the ones who can't think for themselves.
5-113 FA Retired Oct 29, 12:39 p.m.
Bev must not have any relatives scheduled to be released on this rotation.
BigUNCFan Oct 29, 12:38 p.m.
Not sure how you equated bible thumpers as anti-death penalty. I have to admit in my experience, they are the ones the most willing to send people to death row and the most vocal supporters.
I don't agree much with the christians but on that one, I am in agreement. I think 1 appeal and then after that is denied, you are executed that day.
jgriffith3792 Oct 29, 12:37 p.m.
"James Pone planned to attend church with his mother this Sunday and start a new life with his girlfriend."
Yes, but how about your victims? James Pone, you sir and those just like you can and should all rot in jail. You took a life.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12