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  • roncorey1 Oct 26, 5:15 p.m.

    "Police Groups" are always "outraged" over something. Big deal.

    The Fraternal Order of Police are nothing but a political lobbying group and should not be confused with actual police departments and other law enforcement agencies.

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Oct 20, 2:50 p.m.

    Ah, journey can always find a way to turn every forum into a police bashing one

  • GOOD RIDDANCE TO SCUM Oct 20, 12:56 p.m.

    "TIRED OF THOUGHT LESSNESS"
    WHY DON'T YOU MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS???????

  • GOOD RIDDANCE TO SCUM Oct 20, 12:41 p.m.

    "KEEP THEM IN PRISON""KEEP THEM IN PRISON""KEEP THEM IN PRISON"
    "FOR LIFE""FOR LIFE""FOR LIFE" ETC,ETC,ETC.
    "ALL TWENTY OF THEM"

  • Journey985 Oct 20, 11:55 a.m.

    The FOP and PBA need to look at it from a different popint of view for the officers...."JOB SECURITY" if they are so sure these men will commit crimes again, then it will give the officers something to do besides wasting our taxpayer dollars on passing naked pictures of boys to bank tellers, or beating up their ex-wives new boyfriends, or assaulting other LEO over a lawn mower issue!!!

  • jgriffith3792 Oct 20, 9:24 a.m.

    "Our courts are fairly conservative..."

    Did he actually say that? With a straight face?

  • fibershark Oct 20, 8:44 a.m.

    These guys should be fuming,to put their lives on the line everyday to have their work thrown back in their face.If law enforcement can"t have faith in our system?Who else is going to Care?NC going to Heck in a handbasket....FAST

  • kathysawyer Oct 19, 5:40 p.m.

    I think the Court of Appeals judge(s) should have all these inmates released to housing in their own neighborhoods! If the judges had to live next door to a convicted murdered who "served their time" they would think a little longer and harder about what it means to have "served their time."

  • wolff Oct 19, 5:38 p.m.

    It should be interesting to read these forums when we hear about a crime one of these guys commits in the near future.

  • Professor Oct 19, 5:33 p.m.

    THEY ARE GOING TO BE RELEASED. END OF STORY. THERE IS NOTHING NO ONE CAN DO ABOUT IT WHAT MAKES IT SO FUNNY!

  • Professor Oct 19, 5:09 p.m.

    PRISONERS OUTSMARTED THE NC LEADERS. LOL

  • Professor Oct 19, 5:03 p.m.

    OUTRAGED! PLEASE! THE LAW IS THE LAW. THE PEOPLE DID NOT MAKE THE LAW. NC LEADERS DID. NOW THEY ARE REEPING WHAT THEY SOWED. LOL LOL

  • Professor Oct 19, 4:56 p.m.

    STAY ON THE TOPIC OF THE STORY AND NOT ABOUT DRUGS. THANKS.

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Oct 19, 3:55 p.m.

    RaceCard, should tobacco dealers (distributers) be put in prison? You're saying that people can grow, sell and smoke one weed...but not this other one. Why?
    hereandnow99

    What r u talking about?? I said that marijuana should probably be legalized and sold, however right now its not so don't break the law. Secondly, I made a comment about the myth of "marijuana users are in prison." not true, dealers yes and they should be in prison b/c it is illegal. Pharmacists hand out Oxycontin everyday and they can b/c they follow the law. People selling it on the street are not licensed to....so what I am saying is follow the law, as long as it is illegal, don't use it. And marijuana is associated with violence just as alcohol was during prohibition. This is why you should not buy it, you are supplying money to killers. Also why it should be legalized, alcohol sales are no longer associated with gang wars as marijuana sales could be.

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Oct 19, 3:22 p.m.

    lizard, you claim to be for "less government", right? If people can smoke tobacco and drink alcohol, what biz does the gov't (or you) have telling people what they can do with a different naturally-growing weed?

    RaceCard, should tobacco dealers (distributers) be put in prison? You're saying that people can grow, sell and smoke one weed...but not this other one. Why?

    Prove to me that you are actually FOR freedom and FOR less government...and don't just talk about it. :-)

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Oct 19, 2:31 p.m.

    Stop watching Law & Order reruns on TNT and understand what it means to be a nation of law.
    Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    I watch DEXTER on showtime, I like his justice

  • Tired of thoughtlessness Oct 19, 2:24 p.m.

    Please turn CAPS lock off. Your does not stand out more just because you write in all CAPS.

  • Lone Voice in the Wilderness Oct 19, 2:10 p.m.

    I see most of the people on this discussion board are for anarchy. So much for the law, it's now everyone for himself (or herself).

    Maybe if people stopped with the illusion that law has anything to do with what's right or fair, we'd start making progress.

    Stop watching Law & Order reruns on TNT and understand what it means to be a nation of law.

  • SPEAK 1 Oct 19, 2:09 p.m.

    What you fail to realize is that many of these inmates have been leaving the prison on the weekends for YEARS... and coming back during the week. This list consist of murders and rapist.. They are not rehabilitated, they just learn to WAIT.. wait until some smarty pants comes and fines some law to set them free once and for all.. Hopefully they will comma knocking on YOUR DOOR FIRST INSTEAD OF MINE..

  • yeshoneyitsgreat Oct 19, 1:39 p.m.

    I will carry my conceleaed firearm more often now!

  • Professor Oct 19, 1:21 p.m.

    THIS SHOW VERY MUCH THE KIND OF LEADER THAT REPRESENTS NC (US).

  • Professor Oct 19, 1:12 p.m.

    ITS NC FAULT. NOT THE PRISONERS. EXCEPT THAT FACT AND MOVE ON. PUT THE BLAME ON THE RIGHT PEOPLE - NC. :)

  • lilluke0 Oct 19, 1:11 p.m.

    I am appalled at the release of these people who should stay where they are. To me a life sentence is just that,meaning his or her life behind bars and not some definition in a book.You need not define what it meant,saying it is plain enough.There are families missing their loved ones because of these peoples and to add it all up,we have to pay to feed and house them.DUH!
    NotPleasedAtAll

  • angora2 Oct 19, 1:03 p.m.

    "most of them only know prison life, they won't know how to act in the real world."

    Once they're out, they'll find that a crime-free life on the outside is more than they can cope with. They'll want to go back to their free air-conditioned safe haven (big-screen TVs, gymnasiums, libraries, etc.). The road back to prison will necessitate another crime violent enough to stay behind bars for the rest of their lives.

  • Professor Oct 19, 12:54 p.m.

    If they commit more crime, only the state of NC is to be blamed.

    Of course they will be blamed and should be. Now NC don't know what to do. They will have to released the prisoners all because of their horrible mistake. I hope they can live with that. Also I believe the public should have names of those who put that ruling to work and did not realize the danger of it. So can the public have the names on who voted on this?

  • Professor Oct 19, 12:48 p.m.

    NC know it all made the rule and now they have to reap what they sowed. Its not the prisoners fault. Its NC's fault.

  • Not Now Oct 19, 12:37 p.m.

    In the 70s when the "Life = 80 years" law was passed, it was much harder to get "good behavior" credits. Now, as long as you aren't caught in the act of killing someone in jail, you get credits. The criminals that are going to be released, should have all of their various conduct credits re-evaluated under the regulations that were in force when the "life = 80 years" was enacted. The criminals want to be released under the laws enacted when they were sentenced, but apply credits they earned under laws passed that over-ruled the regulations on how and what earns good conduct credits when they were sentenced. There should be no "cherry-picking" of which laws you want to apply to your case.

  • Its My Prerogative Oct 19, 12:30 p.m.

    I will gladyly cash in one of my CD's to help these COWARDS buy a home right next door to their lawyer!!!! Let them watch his wife and/or daughters coming and going!!!!!! This is total non-sense. They have opened the door for more criminals (lawyers included) to find loop holes in the law!!!! Just SAD!!! WAY TO GO STATE OF NC..ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR US LAW ABIDING CITIZNES!!!! yeah right...

  • tsquaring Oct 19, 12:26 p.m.

    It would be an interesting exercise for WRAl to see if the N.C. Fraternal Order of Police endorsed any of the politicians that voted for these laws that they are outraged over. Just a thought.

  • Val36 Oct 19, 11:48 a.m.

    If they commit more crimes then they, the criminals, are to be blamed. It is called being responsible for one's own actions. Does not mean I agree completely with the ruling but it appears that the law was applied fairly and justly for the time in which it was written. Close any other existing loopholes, keep those released on a short leash, and should they break the law again then back they will go.

  • dave2345 Oct 19, 11:48 a.m.

    Since there attorney says they should get out, I will contribute generously to buying a home in his neighborhood so they have a place to stay, hopefully he has a family.

  • allie19 Oct 19, 11:43 a.m.

    Maybe they could even go be with the GITMO crowd and then they could all plot against us. Not that these guys look intelligent enough to "plot" a whole lot.OR.....They could live with Michael Vick.

  • allie19 Oct 19, 11:40 a.m.

    If they commit more crime, only the state of NC is to be blamed. Maybe they should be sued when that happens. They must not have killed any "important" people. (law enforcement, elected officials families, etc.)

  • allie19 Oct 19, 11:37 a.m.

    Maybe Obama could give them special homebuyers discounts in Thomas Majers neighborhood. If he thinks they should be released why should they not live in his neighborhood?

  • SME2 Oct 19, 11:23 a.m.

    It must really urk LEOs when people work within the law and beat them.

    They would not be speaking up if one(some0 of the paroled had not committed a crime against one.

    Do cops get the SWINE flu vaccine?

  • Just the facts mam Oct 19, 11:10 a.m.

    Our infamous NC Legislature passes a law for every minute detail of our lives that they can think of - but something like this they do not get involved with this. Sad...

  • lizard Oct 19, 11:04 a.m.

    hereandnow99 -

    Yeah, right! The gov't has done so good at regulating the alcohol use and it's ramifications. Let's do it with MJ? NOT!

    Why are you for less gov't when it only applies to doing something so useless and/or hurtful to others? Don't you care? Are you insensitive?

  • VivaceConBrio Oct 19, 10:56 a.m.

    just plain sickening

  • wa4mjf Oct 19, 10:48 a.m.

    I learned early in my LE career that it'll drive you stark, raving mad if you worry about what the courts do with offenders. Just do your part correctly and let the rest fall where it may.

  • VivaceConBrio Oct 19, 10:29 a.m.

    Seriously?! How many officers have given their lives to clean up the streets, only for the state to let them go. What's the point? Law Enforcement is a thankless job, time away from family, days filled with filth, violence, evil etc, for WHAT?! This makes my blood boil. What makes the state believe that these individuals can live by the golden rule now? they couldn't to begin with? and most of them only know prison life, they won't know how to act in the real world. My fear is someone else will become a victim and they will again end up in jail -- pretty sure there are statistics to back that up. this is not fair

  • wa4mjf Oct 19, 10:28 a.m.

    OTB, no one is imprsioned for infractions, misdemeanors and felonies, yes, infractions, no. Unless things have changed, the only Chapter 90 infraction is possession of MJ for personal use.

  • floseh Oct 19, 9:59 a.m.

    There shouldn't be any "time off" for good behavior. They have to be good in there or go in The Hole. Don't let them out. Make them stay in.

    The Floseh

  • Outside the Beltline Oct 19, 9:57 a.m.

    Based on the talk of marijuana legalization, I was curious, so I checked the 2008 Dept. of Corrections report for statistics. Unfortunately, it groups drug possession and dealing together, so I couldn't tell how many were just sentenced for possession. According to the report, 20% of all new prisoners in 2008 were imprisoned for drug-related infractions. If we could eliminate almost 1/5 of that prison population (assuming the same stats over time), that would be a huge cost savings for the state and likely a huge boon in terms of tax revenue.

  • djcnty8 Oct 19, 9:51 a.m.

    Looking at all of these individuals and I am wondering why a couple are not required to register as a sex offender when their crime included a sex offense.

  • didisaythat Oct 19, 9:42 a.m.

    They have not served their time....Look at when they were sentenced. It is not 80 years...NOT 70, 60...And then the libs say the police are the ones to blame...You have to love UNC and Silver wolf...

  • Outside the Beltline Oct 19, 9:38 a.m.

    I agree that they should look at the time credits for good behavior. I still don't think it will do any good, because the law at the time allowed for these credits to build up, and any change to the law would be considered as specifically targeting these individuals.

    The way the court ruled was the only way they could based on the law as written. To rule otherwise would have been impossible. The courts do not have contempt for the people. They just aren't concerned with appeals to emotion as much as they are ruling based on the law. I'm certain they considered every possible avenue to prevent this release.

    The only thing we can do is have the police pay extra-special attention to these guys and smack them down legally if they catch them getting out of line.

  • Tarheelfan13 Oct 19, 9:38 a.m.

    RaceCardBalker, I agree that maybe the one salvaging solution may be the good time and infraction issue. But again the problem is that if the statute did specify the sentence was 80 years and not life than quite frankly even the Governor cannot change the situation due to "ex post facto".

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Oct 19, 9:30 a.m.

    It's more freedom...less gov't telling us what to do...and it could be regulated like alcohol & tobacco...increase state tax revenue... what's the downside?
    hereandnow99

    I believe it should be legalized, but it is not right now. As for out prisons flooded with marijuana offenders....that is a myth. These offenders get probation....dealers are imprisoned not users....so that argument is not valid.

  • AnotherIgnoredComment Oct 19, 9:29 a.m.

    Tarheelfan13, what I would have them do is address the good time/etc. If this can be addressed then maybe we can keep these animals in prison. Maybe if the Gov was here and not in China she could focus on this. Also, it is an interpretation by the judges that the 80 years is not for life. The NC supreme court refused to hear an appeal....that is ridiculous and shows that courts contempt for us, the people. Why can't the NC supreme court hear this case? At least that would give the state more time to look at other issues.

  • bnorris6 Oct 19, 9:28 a.m.

    I don't understand how someone was senteneced to death, avoids the death penality then years later doesn't even have to serve a life sentence. Who cares about his credits, if someone is still getting infractions then that in itself should void any credit the person may earn. Something is very wrong with law or whomever is intrepreting the law...

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