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William Sherman Sep 1, 10:37 p.m.
Simply asking a question--just who is it that the school is afraid of? Is it conservatives, or is it groups such as antifa, BLM, etc.,etc. That in no way draws any comparison to the white supremacist, neo nazi, alfata groups. Of these groups, just which is it that projects violence and damage, disrupting rallys? Who is it that is stopping the free expression of ideas--regardless of distasteful and hateful they may be--their adherents have a right to express their ideas with out interference from left wing liberal anarchists, antifa, etc..
Rod Runner Aug 31, 9:37 a.m.
Conservative individuals? Are you telling us that White Supremacy is a platform of the conservatives now? So they are not distancing themselves from it and are embracing it?
Teddy Fowler Aug 31, 9:29 a.m.
It's your words.... I will be at the game myself....
Teddy Fowler Aug 31, 8:57 a.m.
Your own comments are racially divisive.... kind of hypocritical don't you think?
Scott Patterson Aug 31, 8:42 a.m.
Good, these clowns make it a point to recruit on college campuses. The universities will need to step up to protect its students and campuses from these knuckledraggers. All for free speech, but not when it is done in a racially divisive way that harms the atmosphere of our higher learning institutions, it cannot be allowed. Keep it for your cross burnings in the woods...
Phillip Mozingo Aug 31, 8:22 a.m.
In Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942), the Supreme Court held that speech is unprotected if it constitutes "fighting words". Fighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tend[s] to incite an immediate breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive [word] which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction". Additionally, such speech must be "directed to the person of the hearer" and is "thus likely to be seen as a 'direct personal insult'". So in other words, not all free speech is protected by the first amendment and schools have the right [by law] to refuse or reject a speaker.
Teddy Fowler Aug 31, 8:19 a.m.
Everybody hates white supremacists and what they stand for.... part of me does not mind that they are not allowed to speak... but I am seen many instances in colleges around the country where various conservatives (not hate speakers) are constantly denied the right to speak due to these so called "safety" reasons... obviously the left tries to deny anybody who they disagree with the right to speak on campus... what are they afraid of?
Wayne R. Douglas Aug 30, 9:25 p.m.
This is plain and simple censorship. You folks who claim this "safety issue" bull, are just trying to do an end run around the 1st amendment. I don't like his message, but I also don't like the messages of the NAACP, BLM, Black Panthers, Antifa, The K K K, skinheads or any other supremacist organization, which they all are. Just as the white supremacist groups are trying to put down AA's, the AA groups are doing exactly the same in reverse.
Tim Orr Aug 30, 9:11 p.m.
If it's a safety issue, the government should step in to assure this man's freedom of speech. Seems to me it's more rhetoric to cover a Liberal school's condemnation of a differing opinion.
William Sherman Aug 30, 8:59 p.m.
A safety issue?? Concern for safety caused by whom--a person with whom you disagree, or a mob of leftist/liberal/alfta, BLM, etc--people who are well known to create violence and to suppress free speech where ever they can. Does the Chancellor fear the person wanting to speak, or the mob who wants nothing less than to riot and destroy. So much for free speech..
William Sherman Aug 30, 7:18 p.m.
Just who is it that everybody is afraid of? Is it that conservative individuals, by exercising their First Amendment rights to speak their mind, present some threat of violence and destruction? Is the first amendment good only if everybody agrees with what is being presented? But if somebody disagrees with what is being said, they somehow are granted authority to snuff out those ideas or opinions? By denying people the opportunity to speak--regardless of how unpleasant their message may be--UNC in its liberal tradition is once again preventing freedom of expression due to fear that left wing/liberal protestors will create havoc. First Amendment rights be damnned.
Ray Ubinger Aug 30, 6:31 p.m.
It used to be that when local officers felt unable to protect a person's civil rights, the national guard would be called in.
Robin Cubbon Aug 30, 6:19 p.m.
it was denied on a safety basis and for good reason. it wasn't denied because they didn't like the message. the man is being held accountable for the results of his free speech. he is free to speak his thoughts in this country, not wherever he chooses. when he speaks he tends to draw violence so sometimes he is going to be turned down to speak at certain places. the university is charged with the protection of the students and parents are counting on that..as are the students.
Henry Cooper Aug 30, 5:47 p.m.
I in now way support the white supremacist but this seems like censorship because it does not align with the beliefs of those making the decision... but the 1st amendment does not allow for that.
REAL Freedom of speech is tricky to actually live up to. UNC is a Public school supported by public funds and aren't those the exact places the 1st amendment should apply most? In the private non gov. supported sector it is diff game.
I don't agree with their message at all but how far are the universities allowed to go? Are we going to outlaw anti or pro abortion protest dependent on the climate of leadership at he time? Some claim abortion is murder. We have seen the bloody dolls at those protests which many see an insightful as a flag at a protest.
It is like anything, when the government or a government supported institution starts limiting speech at public universities of all places something is wrong.
My point is not about this incident, its more macro to all tedious issues
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2015-01-14 14:37:58