This story is closed for comments.

Oldest First
  • DC_Merlin Aug 8, 7:43 p.m.

    Here's what I'd like to see: Instead of him giving the speeches to other students about the dangers of drinking and driving in a suit and tie like he's some sort of big-shot once all this is over with, how about they ship him to various schools to give the speeches during his jail time, wearing his jail duds and in wrist and ankle cuffs along with a couple of prison guards that he'll have to get to adjust the microphone for him if he needs it. Now THAT would be a much powerful statement to the other students, and maybe they'd listen a little harder.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 8, 6:09 p.m.

    "Just curious would only interview those people other then get others from the schools opinions"

    And seriously, can anyone interpret this for me?

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 8, 6:09 p.m.

    If it was just an "ACCIDENT!" involving one minor traffic violation then he would have been charged with a misdemeanor and not received any jail time. You've got to be kidding me if you think this is "just" an accident.

  • Rocknhorse Aug 8, 11:00 a.m.

    "c4, why should an ACCIDENT! Where a kid lost one of his friends be punishable of 5-10 years or any years??? "

    IF he had been driving the posted speed, and IF he had not been drinking, and IF he had not been driving recklessly, and IF after such an "accident" he immediately called 911 for help for his friend, then I would agree that jail time was not necessary.

    But he was more than double the speed limit, he'd been drinking (underage), he was driving recklessly, he left the scene to clear any sign of alcohol so that he wouldn't get caught, he left his "friend" in a car w/o any help and his friend died. He was more concerned about his own skin than the life of his friend.

    When you drink and drive, go excessive speed limits and are reckless, it's not an accident, it's a wreck. Accident would indicate mistake or unavoidable. This wreck was completely avoidable if he'd been more responsible.

  • disney was the best- lol Aug 8, 10:07 a.m.

    sadiki had probably been preached to before as well NOT to get into a car with someone driving that has been drinking...just like im sure palmeri was preached to about never driving when u have been drinking. anyone of them could have died...

  • casp3r Aug 8, 10:05 a.m.

    Decker= This whole he will have to live with this forever thing just dont cut it with me. This guy did not call 911 after the accident while his friend was dead or dying there. He worried about his own &*^ not his friends.

  • casp3r Aug 8, 10:04 a.m.

    Decker= There is alot more than just an accident. He was drinking under age, driving over twice the legal speed limit, then after the accident he did NOT call 911 for emergancy help so his friend was dying and maybe even saved if he would have called 911. Then to beat all leaves the seen of the accident to cover up the boozing at the party.

  • disney was the best- lol Aug 8, 10:02 a.m.

    decker~ i totally agree with you there

  • Decker Aug 8, 9:56 a.m.

    c4, why should an ACCIDENT! Where a kid lost one of his friends be punishable of 5-10 years or any years???

    He had an accident and unfortunatly Sadiki died, It's terrible that a young life was lost. and I feel terrible for his mother and his family, but this was Sadikis friend who crashed and the fact he has to live with that death for the rest of his life is punishment enough to me.

  • disney was the best- lol Aug 8, 9:51 a.m.

    c4sp3r~ i agree although there is not really a good excuse but i guess he was scared and didnt know what to do.....

  • casp3r Aug 8, 9:44 a.m.

    disney was the best= I agree but Sadiki payed the real price. This boy had no business not trying to save his freinds life instead of trying to cover his, well you know what Im saying.

  • disney was the best- lol Aug 8, 9:37 a.m.

    come on people...whats done is done and he cant go back...im sure he has learned his lesson, thou the hard way. i dont care how much teaching or preaching to someone about drinking and driving or speeding they are still going to do what they want to do at that moment. he probably knew better and had heard it all before not to do it but he had friends with him and he wanted to show off and now it has cost him. we all pretty much think nothing bad can happen to us or someone we are close to and thats why people make the decisions they do because they say "it wont happen to me"....

  • casp3r Aug 8, 9:26 a.m.

    Decker= Im a 33 yr old white male. Something wrong with me wanting him to do more time than 5 months for killing someone?

  • casp3r Aug 8, 9:25 a.m.

    chrisschriss25= I think someone needs to do something because your so called ( life style of wakefield students ) seems to be very deadly. This is the second accident in a years time. Someone needs to say or do something, sweeping it under the rug is not getting it done.

  • Decker Aug 8, 9:22 a.m.

    I think it's really funny, if you look at all of the names of the people who think that he should've gotten more time are more then likely not of the white ethnicity. Just curious would only interview those people other then get others from the schools opinions.

  • iamforjustice Aug 8, 9:06 a.m.

    I really feel sorry for that cute kid. He is too cute to go to prison.

  • imyourhuckleberry Aug 8, 7:43 a.m.

    *life

  • imyourhuckleberry Aug 8, 7:43 a.m.

    chris is that your 2 cents?

    It is sad that a live was lost, it was senseless! Drinking and Driving is Stupidity at it's finest!

  • chrisschriss25 Aug 7, 10:36 p.m.

    you people really have no lives. watching the news and being informed is way diffrent then getting online and posting your 2 cents to every hot topic. I understand that you are intitled to your opnion, but seriously if any of you can recall his name and stop calling him "dr.newmans son", then i think you have a right to comment here. His name was Sadiki. he was an amazing guy and we all miss him terribly. What happened to him was not fair, not for anyone, but posting her placing blame on parents and the community and life style of wakefield students, is NOT helping.

  • RainierBeer Aug 7, 8:51 p.m.

    He shoulda gotten WAY more time in the hole for what he did. And Stephens usually is pretty tough judge

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 8:29 p.m.

    Agreed.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 7:56 p.m.

    Derrr, not sure where I read/heard the "hour" portion of my statement. At any rate, when you take into account 1) the time it took to sink in what had just happened to them, 2) the time it took to find their cell phones in the wreckage, 3)the time it took to call a friend to come pick at least one of the passengers up, 4) the time it took for that friend to get there, pick up the passenger and leave, and then 5) the time it took for emergency crews to show up - it's bound to be more than just a "few" minutes. And again, even though calls were made to friends, and knowing that Sadiki's condition was grave at best, no calls were made to 911.

    It will be interesting to follow the cases of the others charged in this incident that tried to cover up their participation to see if their punishment is similar.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 7:35 p.m.

    DC, interesting. She said having the neighbors call took minutes, not an hour. I don't know if him not calling would have anything to do with the manslaughter charge. It would be interesting to know all of the facts.

  • SaltlifeLady Aug 7, 6:57 p.m.

    This is a very sad story with tragic ends for more than one family. I can't even imagine what Dr Young must be going through or to have to wish for an instant death of one's own child. The young man is also getting prison time and will have to serve his own sentence. And for those of you who said he should have gotten a life sentence...well, he did...he has to live with this for the rest of his life no matter if he is in jail or at home. I fear some of you teens have also missed an important point though...the dangers of getting into a car with someone who had been drinking. Mr Young made that choice. The consequences of calling your parents and telling them you have been drinking and can not drive to get home, or that you have not been drinking but your friends have and nobody is sober to bring you home are far less that the consequences of drunk drivers getting behind the wheel of a car.Heck, call a cab to come get you. A cab ride is much cheaper than the cost of lost lives.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 6:39 p.m.

    Derrrrr, if you move your mouse over the video, you'll see controls on the bottom, slide the bottom bar over until you get to the 8:00 mark on the video - the teens never called 911, it was a neighbor who called 911. The comment that resonates the most is when Dr. Newman (the mother of the passenger that was killed) stated "Does anyone here know what it is like for a mother to pray that her child died instantly?"

    Very sobering.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 6:27 p.m.

    DC, I looked for other stories online that mention it but I couldn't find anything. I think it sounds a little weird. If they let him die while he could have been saved it would have been the focal point of the story and he would have gotten a LONG time in prison.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 6:19 p.m.

    I watched some of it earlier, just didn't feel like watching 12 minutes of it.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 6:17 p.m.

    Derrr (and others who may be interested) click on the video link under the picture in the story titled "WEB ONLY: Palmeri, Young's Mother Speak in Court". It comes up during the mothers speech that the survivors called family friends and others to either get rides home or to the hospital, yet none of them called 911 until almost an hour after the accident.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 6:05 p.m.

    DC, they waited an hour? Are you serious? I didn't hear that. If that's the case he should be locked up for a few years at least.

  • oneday8035 Aug 7, 5:24 p.m.

    Wow! I have really enjoyed reading everyone bickering back and forth about .01, .06, .08 etc. Whatever his level he still would have most likely lost control of the car at that speed and contrary to what most teens believe they don't know what to do in that situation. As I stated in an earlier post, I have an 18 year old son that has enough sense not to get behind the wheel with so much as 1 drop but his foot on the accererator is another matter. They think that they are 10 foot tall and bullet proof at that age when they get behind the wheel of a car. Most likely if they had ben going the speed limit we would be bickering about something else and no ones life would have been changed forever. Parents please remember your life at that age and let these kids know that it's ok to call and don't punish them when they do. I'm not saying that it's ok for them to drink but stopping them won't always work...teach them how to do it responsibly.

  • DayumKrazy1 Aug 7, 5:19 p.m.

    first time I have seen any story have more than 400 posts. My thought is the kid got off too easily, sorry but the fact is he or anyone is responcible for whoever is in the car period when they are driving. I don't know what the sentence should be but, what he got seems like nothing more than a slap on the wrist. The sentence he recieved should have been solely for the drinking, then tack on a much more severe punishment for the death of the other kid. Bottom line...not a good message to others because the penalty DOES NOT fit the crime, so if I am repeating others comments its not intentional but I wasn't about to read 482 prior to mine...LOL don't have the time.

  • 1angel Aug 7, 5:17 p.m.

    I believe that the boy should be punished a lot more severely than what he received. He made irresponsible decisions that were against the law--the drinking, the drinking and driving, the excessive speed. As a result of all these poor decisions--that are, by the way, suppose to be decisions made by an adult, he was responsible for the death of another human. He should have received 10 years and then get out of jail and start making a difference.
    I believe that I court system should set an example first--his time should come way down the road. He too young to understand the impact of such mistakes.

  • Rocknhorse Aug 7, 5:12 p.m.

    With the combined set of circumstances in this case I think 5 months is extremely low!

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 5:09 p.m.

    Derrr, the other factor that led to the involuntary manslaughter charge in this case was the fact that the teens (driver and other passengers as well) waited close to an hour before calling 911 to report the accident. With this factored in, I don't think the BAC really mattered that much in bringing up the charges but, as you stated, certainly made a difference in the sentencing which IMHO should have been even longer than what he got.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 5:04 p.m.

    DC,
    Yes! Thank you!! lol I was getting frustrated. There is no doubt that any alcohol while under 21 gets you charged, but the amount of alcohol is crucial in determining the charge, plea bargain and how long he goes to prison.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 5:01 p.m.

    Ahhh, that makes much more sense now Derrrrrr. Yes, that would certainly make a difference in the sentencing, but not in the sense of whether or not one was "more legal" than the other.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 4:57 p.m.

    DC, I know it's illegal, I'm not arguing that. What I am arguing is the difference between a .01 and a .06. If he blows a .01 the state probably doesn't pursue manslaughter charges against him and he probably doesn't go to prison. But he blew a .06 and the DA thinks he was over the limit when he was driving. This changes the case COMPLETELY. Yes, a .01 is illegal, and yes, .06 is illegal. But there is more evidentiary value of impairment with the .06 and that brings about stiffer charges. The higher BAC is why he is going to prison.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 4:49 p.m.

    Derrrrr, The bottom line is the driver was underage and he was drinking. That in itself is ILLEGAL period. It no longer matters "how much" he had. It doesn't even matter if he got behind the wheel of a car. He was underage, and he was drinking.

    The fact that he got behind the wheel of a car is a completely separate matter, as it is breaking a law that is essentially equivalent of a DWI, even if his BAC (or BAL) was only .01 - it is, again, illegal.

    Then there is that fact that he was driving in excess of 30MPH over the posted speed limit. Any guesses as to whether or not that was legal?

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 4:45 p.m.

    BG, I wasn't complaining that you didn't respond to my EVERY post. I just found it ironic that we were trading posts most of the afternoon, then when you wrote, "I find it hard to believe that a court would convict someone of a (Driving Under the Influence) or a (Driving While Impaired) simply from the testimony of someone" and "The Legal Limit is .08 or below, if I am below that how can you charge me for driving over the Legal Limit???" you seemed to disappear when I quoted case law showing you how it could be done. My ego isn't that big that I expect you to read ALL of my posts. But when you ask a question and I answer it I expect a reply post.

  • Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 7, 4:42 p.m.

    Hey guys,
    It's not really the same. If his BAC was only a .01 I doubt he would have been charged with manslaughter. The under 21 provision is not a DWI, it's a different charge altogether. There is a huge difference between him blowing a .06 or .08 and a .01.

  • tooblessed Aug 7, 4:35 p.m.

    I say this was poor judgement on Young as well being that his Mother states she had always told him to call her if he was ever in need of a ride home. At 18 he may not have known his friend was not in any condition to drive.As I stated before all parties are hurting not to condone driving while drinking in the least.

  • casp3r Aug 7, 4:32 p.m.

    That was the biggest part of the argument today, mulvay8888 were have you been all day lol.

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 4:27 p.m.

    Thanks for the :SPECIAL PROVISION FOR DRIVERS UNDER 21" post mulvay8888, hopefully that will clear up the thoughts of some of the people here.

  • Rocknhorse Aug 7, 4:27 p.m.

    mulvay8888 - Thank you for providing the information. I was looking for it, but hadn't been able to find it. I knew that if a person under 21 was caught driving with any alcohol in their system they could be charged w/dwi-even if they blew below the .08.

    Thank you for all the info you've provided. It's been very informative.

  • HP Aug 7, 4:26 p.m.

    Enough already!! This has turned into a chat room instead of a comments field, 469 posts, most of which are repeats & a whole lot of nonsense!

  • DC_Merlin Aug 7, 4:25 p.m.

    "I bet you can find an instance where the passenger survived a fatal crash and the driver died as a result of being drunk or impaired and the passenger was not."

    Agreed, but if you look closely at those cases, it becomes a matter of IF you can prove that the passenger knew without a doubt that the driver was too impaired to drive. In many cases, the passenger can be held civilly liable, but not criminally liable.

  • casp3r Aug 7, 4:24 p.m.

    mulvay8888= Well Ill be. I could not find that to save my life earlier. So it does not matter what they blow they still can be charged with DWI. Thank you so much.

  • Sessy - Italiana Aug 7, 4:23 p.m.

    he got off EASY

  • mulvay8888 Aug 7, 4:21 p.m.

    SPECIAL PROVISION FOR DRIVERS UNDER 21

    It is illegal in North Carolina, for a driver under the age of 21 to drive while consuming alcohol or with any level of alcohol in their system. Even if the driver blows much less than .08, such as .01 or .02, the driver can be charged with a violation of this law. This law is punished the same as a DWI. Thus, the driver would be subject to a license revocation, insurance increase, and the same levels of punishment as discussed above.

    http://www.ncsu.edu/stud_affairs/legal_services/legaldocs/DWI.htm

  • angiemo1224 Aug 7, 4:20 p.m.

    5 months seems like a very small amount of time for someone who is responsible for another's person's death whether voluntarily or involuntarily.

Oldest First