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miseem Jun 5, 1:55 p.m.
Great comment, coming from the person that claims that coal ash is not dangerous. Even Duke Power does not argue about the safety and health risk of dumping coal ash in rivers, despite what a single study 25 years ago says. I guess they decided that if they protested, someone would do a current study showing a serious health hazard and that Duke either knew or should have know that years ago.
webrockiv Jun 5, 1:02 p.m.
I guess that the potential for short term economic gains is more important than keeping a promise to your constituents. Way to sell your souls again, NC legislature. Say goodbye to clean water in NC.
tracmister Jun 5, 12:59 p.m.
Did McCrory actually sign it or did Art have to remind him to sign it.
androiddj Jun 5, 12:58 p.m.
Those who would poison their drinking water in the name of cheap non-renewable energy. Deserve Neither!!!
scubagirl2 Jun 5, 12:28 p.m.
well said, but those in favor of fracking don't care about facts or truths...
Desiderata Jun 5, 12:21 p.m.
NOW make HIM drink the water and live near one of these sites ..bet he won't!
678devilish Jun 5, 12:14 p.m.
Please don't bet on jobs being created because of this fracking. That would be an illuusion.
678devilish Jun 5, 12:13 p.m.
This is a big major mistake that the NC governor is making. Its going to come back and bite him. There will be consequences. Watch and see.
RDcallsit Jun 5, 12:05 p.m.
since when did High Tech jobs and Rural Areas go together?
7.62x51 Jun 5, 11:41 a.m.
Big surprise here!
landonsgrampa Jun 5, 11:19 a.m.
Are you trying to be anti gas wells? All of that sounds really fun to me. The only complaint would be the topless dancer thing. I would rather have full nude dancers.
coralart Jun 5, 11:13 a.m.
McCroney has got to go! Got to go!!
Jun 5, 10:57 a.m.
This is so exciting! Soon, there are going to be so many wonderful jobs available. Prostitute, Dealer, Road dust hoser-downer, policeman, social worker, jail construction workers, fry chef, slum lord, and so many more! Oh, plus environmental cleanup crews, water quality testers, air quality testers, noise abatement experts, truck repair shops, truck tire stores, auto body shops, pool hall operators, night club owners, topless dancers, bar managers and mixologists. It's gonna be a BONANZA!
downeast2 Jun 5, 10:37 a.m.
They will be fracking disturbingly close to Jordan Lake. Here's a news flash, that's the drinking water for a whole lot of us, you GOPers who support this, included. And it takes millions of gallons of water per well for the process. Where do you think that's gonna come from? So, when the lake levels decrease because of it getting sucked dry by these fracking bloodhounds, what happens when the next severe summer drought comes along? Are you prepared to pay premium $$ for your water service, since it will have to be trucked in, piped in, whatever you want. Think this is a good idea now? Anybody who is on the right who thinks these NC polis care about the STATE of NC, you are most surely delusional.
scubagirl2 Jun 5, 10:32 a.m.
NOT in this instance.....I, and all others against this, are basing our objections on FACTS, something you apparently chose to ignore.......
scubagirl2 Jun 5, 10:29 a.m.
A point that many have either missed or chosen to ignore! Sad sad days
landonsgrampa Jun 5, 10:26 a.m.
I am glad this is moving on, despite ignorant people trying to stand in the way.
johnrmccray Jun 5, 10:10 a.m.
It's economics, the cost that the state will spend in infrastructure cost will be enormous! The equipment will be trucked in from out of state, probably the shale gas fields of the Appalachian Basins, using I-77 to I-40 to US-1, or I-85 to US-1. How much is the I-440 repairs running? We'll be footing the bill for repairs of that scale all along those transportation corridors. Maybe we'll be spared some of it by the companies using rail, but that will not be a major transportation source. Using the current Import price for Natural Gas (Wellhead price not currently available), the total reserve value is somewhere near $17B, taxes on that are what, maybe $4B? So, using current construction cost estimates of $15M per mile (based on the Fortify project around Raleigh), the repairs to transportation infrastructure using the aforementioned routes could cost around $3.7B.
I still don't see the benefit.
Buddy1 Jun 5, 9:39 a.m.
Lock and Load said:
Kind of like the gun lobby?
Buddy1 Jun 5, 9:35 a.m.
Keep in mind that in NC the distance between the water table and the gas containing shale is MUCH smaller than in other states that frack thus making water contamination a very real and credible threat.
Buddy1 Jun 5, 9:31 a.m.
Kind of like how guns kill people? Sorry MEP, that kind of logic is going to get you kicked out of the Republican 'We Love Guns But Hate The Environment' club.
independant1 Jun 5, 9:12 a.m.
We need to stop the big corporations and billionairs from buying off all of the politicians. There is a bipartisan group of people trying to do this on the national level by way of an amendment to the Constitution through a convention of the states (to bypass Congress). Please check out http://www.wolf-pac.com/
independant1 Jun 5, 9:07 a.m.
It's funny how these so called conservatives that preach about smaller government have turned out to be an overreaching tyrannical big government that is forcing policies that violate individual property owner's rights, not to mention ignoring the will of the citizens of the state of North Carolina.
42 Jun 5, 9:04 a.m.
Millions of dollars of NC tax payer subsidies are going to the frackers
I don't want to see GOPers complain about solar or wind subsidies ever again.
Grand Union Jun 5, 9:04 a.m.
This is about GAS not oil.............and I'm not sure what you want us to do about China and India........invade them perhaps?
Blaming America? where do you get this nonsense from?
jackjones2nc Jun 5, 9:02 a.m.
Tillis and McCrory broke their promise to the citizens of North Carolina. The Republicans tricked us.
Grand Union Jun 5, 9:00 a.m.
Its not even remotely correct. Fracking is inherently dangerous. Its pumping billions of gallons og poisonous liquids into the ground by people who want to do it as quickly and as cheaply as possible and who know there is virtually no chance they would ever get caught if they cut corners.
And no NC has not been studying it for years, they have had fracking companies advising on it for years.
Not quite the same thing.
And since there is only 20 years experience in the process and ground water moves slowly its likely it could take that long and longer for the real effects to be seen from wells which are thousands of feet deep. Steel rusts and concrete cracks, the ground moves and the liquid underground will be under great pressure.........it will leak up into our groundwater and our rivers. And when it does we will not be able to stop it.
NcNativeRaleigh Jun 5, 8:39 a.m.
If the only reasoning to support fracking is cause we use electricity, as if objecting to the process is hypocritical, then evolution will passed you by. The sun is free for all and can more than supply enough converted electricity. The irony here is you would know that if Exxon and Duke were allowed to buy the Sun.
dahill001 Jun 5, 8:34 a.m.
well that's not quite correct
arfamr1009 Jun 5, 8:22 a.m.
I'm sick of these liberal news outlets saying this is "fast tracking" fracking in order to make people think they're being wreckless. NC has been studying fracking for YEARS!!! There is zero evidence that fracking is dangerous.
jgilchr Jun 5, 8:21 a.m.
Can someone tell me how this bill is promoting clean energy when it is focused on fossil fuels?
Grand Union Jun 5, 8:19 a.m.
What is the hurry.....who really gains by taking the gas now when its price is at historical low? Now lets think who uses an awful lot of gas and would like to get it as cheap as possible to boost their profits?
Duke Energy, who, by a complete coincidence, is the Govs "former" employer.....only they would consume enough to be able to dictate their price and make it worthwhile laying the pipes to get it to where it would be consumed.
You didn't know about all the pipeline laying that going to be required? Right across your land whether you like it or not.
Now if we thinking about what would be best for the State.....we'd simply wait until the value of the gas is much much higher, state tax revenue wiould be much higher, we would have had another 20 years to see just how big the lies of the Frackers were, someone would certainly have leaked what poisons are in the Fluids used by then, the landowners would get much bigger returns...........
I-Defy Jun 5, 8:17 a.m.
Oh noes! Everybody PANIC! I for one love being held hostage by foreign oil lets keep that going for awhile longer. I love giving people who hate us my money.
Ill start to care when you hippies starting standing up to China and India for all their pollution, but you just cant seem to stop blaming America first.
I-Defy Jun 5, 8:14 a.m.
and yet here you using electricity to make your rant against power. Why dont you practice what you preach and use smoke signals to get your message across
NC Reader Jun 5, 8:12 a.m.
Every single person who supports this legislation is supporting giving the power to a private company to decide to come onto a person's land AGAINST THE LANDOWNER'S WILL and drill, and/or build a road, pipeline, or bridge to get to drilling on another's land. You are also supporting giving the right to such a company to withdraw natural gas AGAINST THE LANDOWNER'S WILL from under his/her land and put unknown chemicals under that land.
The fact that many, if not most, of the fracking supporters get so upset about any proposed minor restrictions on guns when this is a far more egregious violation of property rights is ridiculous.
thomasew52 Jun 5, 8:06 a.m.
Trust him just like we trusted Obama, Pelosi and Reid with the ACA. They told us it was the thing to do, and it would be great. Neither the Pubs or the Dems have it together. Hopefully, most of the people will begin to realize that someday, as many are already coming to grips with it.
NcNativeRaleigh Jun 5, 8:02 a.m.
IT takes a special kind of doltish to believe that billion year old rock that has been drilled can be safely capped from leaking contaminants into the aquifers with the use of steal that rust and concrete that distresses over time. Denialist who see no evil, hear no evil also reject earthquake tremors and air contamination happening currently from fracking sites. Special. Very special.
elyhim2 Jun 5, 7:35 a.m.
For those of you saying how much you welcome the drilling and wish there was gas under your property.. You realize you may not profit from this as companies can and do take gas and frack under property without your consent or sharing profits?
You obviously haven't googled "fracking" and seen all the problems with communities losing their water. I guess you won't be happy until we revert back to pre-EPA and the rivers start catching fire again - You know, the good ol days.
elyhim2 Jun 5, 7:23 a.m.
Yeah, nothing wrong with flammable water from your tap.
batchelor284 Jun 5, 7:01 a.m.
Just what I have always wanted to do....to be able to set my tap water on fire.....
coolcatdaddy Jun 5, 6:53 a.m.
The only question left now is whether the citizens of North Carolina will be making Lexington or Eastern style BBQ in their kitchen sinks.
coralart Jun 5, 5:12 a.m.
Mcroney handled that coal ash spill so well, why wouldn't we trust him make good decisions on harvesting gas.
not_surprised Jun 4, 10:19 p.m.
Why, why, why, can't we be smart enough to invest in renewable energy that will be here for ever. An energy source that doesn't have to be drawn from the depths of the earth, doesn't leave a useless scar as soon as the energy well drys up, doesn't waste our most valuable resource (water), has comparably negligible impact on our physical environment, emits much less net CO2 into the atmosphere (yes natural gas leaves a carbon footprint), creates jobs/money for many more (read average man) than the few landowners, out of state "drillers" and large companies that will likely take the majority of the real riches and spend them elsewhere (not locally). Why can't we as a state and nation show and lead the world in wiseness instead of this shortsighted "gold-rush" mentality. Hmmm ???
BIlzac Jun 4, 9:46 p.m.
And with our forced pooling law that is already on the books, not only are municipalities forbidden from refusing to allow drilling, even individual property owners cannot decline to allow drilling under their land. We have just passed a bill that allows complete strangers to come set up a well on your neighbors propert and extend the drilling to any property they can reach, including yours. Wow. And this from the party of LESS government intrusion in our lives (unless there is money to be made from it I guess).
emaleth Jun 4, 9:15 p.m.
Fracking here makes no economic sense. There isn't enough gas for more than a few years, and the number of jobs created is pathetically small. We could do better with recruiting a white-collar business to RTP. I'm not even going to touch on the environmental risks.
Locked&Loaded Jun 4, 8:06 p.m.
But that's how the left rolls. They base their agenda on fear to attain their goals instead of facts.
bbruck Jun 4, 8:04 p.m.
JUST ANNOUNCED- they are starting "test drilling" to lure fracking companies to NC.
How can they do this when the Mining Commission won't have their report ready until December? Its called LYING to the public.
Gary_too Jun 4, 7:46 p.m.
Great Job Governor, doing just what you were elected to do. I wish there was natural gas under my property, I would be the first to have a well.
GovernmentMule Jun 4, 7:36 p.m.
Why not? Millions of people across the country already do that and their fine.
This hysteria over fracking is completely unwarranted.
THD Jun 4, 7:32 p.m.
The ground water will most likely be fine. They drill safely past the water before they fracture the earth.
However, when they are done they do nothing to heal the fractures. And they do pump chemicals down.
They waste thousands of gallons of water too.
Nobody knows what it does to fault lines. I hope they don't do it here.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2014-06-24 16:03:36