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  • bonitallm Jun 5, 10:49 a.m.

    Many of your comments are very well stated. I do think that the SROs need additional training in cultural competency, and even youth mental health training. Clear communication between the administrators, teachers, social workers, etc with the SRO is also crucial! There are circumstances where the SRO may be "left out of the loop" of information. As you may be aware, both Durham and Wake schools are involved in legal discussions regarding the disproportionate number of youth who are disabled (inc. developmental) or youth of color being charged in school. One particular youth had diabetes and his blood sugar dropped during class - he left class after being told he could not leave. Unfortunately, he was charged by an SRO. Even more unfortunate, he had to be hospitalized for several days. He was seen as having a behavioral problem and not a medical issue - if the SRO had been made aware of this boy's medical circumstances, then I'm sure the student wouldn't have been charged.

  • GALNC Jun 5, 9:08 a.m.

    Garcia, 17, was arrested in March for repeatedly hitting a student on a bus and threatening a teacher at Southeast Raleigh Magnet High School. She spent three weeks in jail because no parent or guardian was available to take responsibility for her. Garcia was in-between foster families at the time.

    “I was incarcerated by an SRO who said I needed to learn a lesson,” Garcia told school board members Tuesday.

    No, you were arrested because your behavior endangered other students and teachers. Sorry, but I am a minority and I say...you need to be kicked out of school if you are a danger to others...you knew the situation and are using your lack of parent or guardian to say...poor me. What about the students you hit and teachers you threatened?

  • privilegesrevoked Jun 4, 7:45 p.m.

    So, is she supposed to be allowed to stay in school while hitting others?
    This makes NO sense.

  • LetsBeFair Jun 4, 6:03 p.m.

    How are the arrests setting them on a path down the wrong road? Actions on behalf of parenting and students created the violent situations that cause them to be arrested.

  • Stilllearnin Jun 4, 4:35 p.m.

    "There is a gaping exception that says school resource officers can get involved anytime there is a violation of criminal law," said Jennifer Story, an attorney with Legal Aid of North Carolina's Advocate for Children Services.
    Read more at http://www.wral.com/wake-school-board-looks-at-role-of-resource-officers/13696308/#IuolxRjdwm25rVLs.99

    DUH! What do you thing law enforcement officers are sworn to do? My suggestion would be to remove them if you do not want them to do what they are trained and sworn to do and replace them with volunteers from your group!

  • U2 Jun 4, 12:14 p.m.

    school system is an education institution and not a daycare, but many parents see us as free daycare. parents don't want to deal with their kids home so they send them to us

  • tarheelfan3 Jun 4, 12:13 p.m.

    westernwake1 Jun 4, 11:31 a.m.
    '“I was incarcerated by an SRO who said I needed to learn a lesson,” Garcia told school board members Tuesday.'

    You were arrested for assaulting another student and a teacher. And according to to other students at Southeast Raleigh High School, Selina Garcia had a long term history of abusive and disruptive behavior at the school. The SRO was quite right to arrest her. Unfortunately the lesson did not sink in that irresponsible behavior is not acceptable. Instead this issue is turned around to make it that somehow a racist SRO is at fault for this entire incident.

    Well Said

  • U2 Jun 4, 12:10 p.m.

    another blow to the public education. first was teachers can not touch the child, now its SRO can not touch a child, next is police can not touch an adult. where does it end. It is very interesting that as educator I have seen that the problem children are the ones who always complain about anything, where as the good students never do, and always turn their work on time

  • Hecate Jun 4, 12:08 p.m.

    Luvliving...yes, let's get rid of the SRO's because of one incident you know, and create a more... View More

    — Posted by Brigand

    Problem is sweetie, you are misinformed…there is not one single study that shows a school... View More

    — Posted by LuvLivingInCary

    Perhaps the reason there is no good data is because the SRO prevented violent and aggressive behavior to occur at these schools....

  • Bullcity34 Jun 4, 11:35 a.m.

    The age to be charged as an adult in NC is 16 years old. So although I don't agree that if you fight you should be charged with affray every time, there should be exception such as assault on a teacher or government official. Also If there it is an assault inflicting serious injury or a weapon absolutely these kids should be charged. You can't just break the law without consequences

  • piratepeople2 Jun 4, 11:33 a.m.

    The only thing gaping is the space between Jennifer Story's ears, IMHO

  • westernwake1 Jun 4, 11:31 a.m.

    '“I was incarcerated by an SRO who said I needed to learn a lesson,” Garcia told school board members Tuesday.'

    You were arrested for assaulting another student and a teacher. And according to to other students at Southeast Raleigh High School, Selina Garcia had a long term history of abusive and disruptive behavior at the school. The SRO was quite right to arrest her. Unfortunately the lesson did not sink in that irresponsible behavior is not acceptable. Instead this issue is turned around to make it that somehow a racist SRO is at fault for this entire incident.

  • westernwake1 Jun 4, 11:24 a.m.

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    Groups opposed to having an SRO at the school appear to have a problem with personal... View More

    — Posted by Grand Union

    It is pretty clear that you are out of touch with what teachers and administrators in middle & high schools contend with these days. With the continued "mainstreaming" of students with significant behavior problems (rather than having them in separate specialized schools) and legal changes that don't allow faculty to involve themselves in disciplining students - the entire situation is dismal.

    Most teachers and administrators would fully support more arrests of out-of-control control students. The current reality is that very few encounters result in criminal charges unless the student is completely over-the-top in breaking the law and has also a long history of causing problems. Most of these cases go to Juvenile court so the students do not have a permanent record when they leave school. Many faculty believe that arresting students with long term issues may be the best eye opener to change irresponsible behavior.

  • Grand Union Jun 4, 11:06 a.m.

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    Groups opposed to having an SRO at the school appear to have a problem with personal responsibility for proper behavior, and want SROs removed from schools so they their children can assault and intimidate other students with impunity.
    Read more at http://www.wral.com/wake-school-board-looks-at-role-of-resource-officers/13696308/#s6dgb6V3IWxDzbI1.99

    Of really where do you get such nonsense? There is a huge difference between not wanting kids charged with criminal offenses for a schoolyard scuffle and wanting kids to be able to bully with impunity! I fully support having SROs in schools, in fact I'd like more of them but that does not mean every encounter has to result in criminal charges. If that were the case most boys and many girls would have a criminal record by the time they left school! I certainly would have, and I was a pretty peacable kid.

  • cghsmom Jun 4, 10:30 a.m.

    In the old days, teachers could step in and stop fights and provide appropriate discipline. ... View More

    — Posted by westernwake1

    Amen!!
    I work in the schools. I am glad there are SROs in the schools, particularly at the middle and high school level. It is not uncommon for them to have to even call for backup sometimes. The teachers and staff are not allowed to discipline, and some of these students are down right dangerous and troublesome. These aren't the 1970s. There are more kids with mental health issues, drug problems on some hard core drugs, behavioral issues where they get quite physical, and weapons brought on campus. These are things that require law enforcement assistance many times. Anyone who is critical of SROs in the schools and the job they are doing either has their own issues with authority and the law, or has not set foot in a school in years!!

  • nmyopenyun Jun 4, 10:30 a.m.

    Many students have Individual Education Plans (IEP) which can include behavioral plans, these plans limit suspension times unless you have a manifestation meeting to see if the behavioral incident is related to the disability, if so the student comes back to school. There are laws concerning disorderly conduct in a school, assault and so on which do not observe the rules of an IEP. The only way to have less criminal charges in the school is to either redefine the juvenile code to include 16 and 17 year old and/ or to have appropriate diversion programs which include parental sanctions. Take the time to volunteer in a school for a day, it would be eye opening. there are a lot of great kids making the right choice, and there are are others who without proper parental guidance who receive direction when they make the wrong choice, both groups are prone to mess up, they are juveniles after all. Most SRO's are there to insure a safe learning environment, be a role model, and enforcement

  • westernwake1 Jun 4, 10:08 a.m.

    In the old days, teachers could step in and stop fights and provide appropriate discipline. Today a teacher is likely to face charges if they attempt to hold back a student from assaulting another student. This leads to why SROs are needed in the schools - and at the high school level these officers should be arresting students who seriously violate the law.

    Groups opposed to having an SRO at the school appear to have a problem with personal responsibility for proper behavior, and want SROs removed from schools so they their children can assault and intimidate other students with impunity. It is time for the school board to stand up and tell these people "No". The SROs are at the schools to ensure the safety of the students who are there to learn.

  • Bullcity34 Jun 4, 9:33 a.m.

    The LEO mentality under the old wake DA and current sheriff is part of the problem.

    The "my word... View More

    — Posted by less_govt_is_better_govt

    Give me an example of your so called sweeping under the rug and dirty cop work. Pull the sro out of schools for a week. It won't take long for them to go back in. Teachers and parents will get tired of disrespect and fighting

  • Genie v2.0 Jun 4, 9:26 a.m.

    She committed assault and communicated threats!! How did the SRO screw up by having her arrested? School policy is automatically being expelled and they have to report to police anyway. Untie law enforcement hands or else kids will think they can get away with this. But the parents are still siding with the degenerate child

  • lisaclark2 Jun 4, 9:00 a.m.

    Yes people think there shouldn't be an arrest until someone's kid gets seriously injured. Kids that are not in school to learn, should be entered into a school system that is professionally designed to teach and train troubled kids. It's horrible that we even need officers to patrol the schools in the 1st place.

  • ravenrll Jun 4, 8:55 a.m.

    Second thing I thought kids didn't have rights till they turned 18? That why we don't let 12 year old vote.

  • ravenrll Jun 4, 8:53 a.m.

    I must be missing something here? If two kids (don't matter the age) starts fighting in Target what happens? The get arrested. I don't know how anyone can call a fight a "minor" thing. God forbid SRO are not limited and some one kills some one in a fight at school. Then people will jump up and down that the SRO didn't do there job.

  • MajorLeagueinfidel Jun 4, 8:50 a.m.

    People act like the Law Enforcement agencies forced this on the school system. The schools asked for SRO to be brought in then turn around and tighten restrictions on what they can and cant do. They need to pull these officers out of the schools and put them on the road where they belong.

  • piratepeople2 Jun 4, 8:46 a.m.

    well said SBR 1963!

  • wonderland Jun 4, 8:45 a.m.

    If it had not of been for school resource officers a lot more violence would be taking place in schools. If that were any other kid they would not be making a big deal about her being arrested. I know plenty of you saying they shouldn't be there would be wanting them back at the first sign of trouble. Kids these days get away with way to much. People throwing lawsuit fits over something that is the law and should remain that way.

  • tarheelfan3 Jun 4, 8:39 a.m.

    I find it amusing that this issue was raised because Garcia was repeatedly beating on someone and then threatened the teacher who tried to intervene. If the teacher had tried to physically break up the fight as those far-left cretins suggest, then the teacher would be demonized by the same group for physically intervening. Don't believe me? Google teachers fired or disciplined for breaking up fights. You guys are clueless. If it was your child being beaten repeatedly, you'd be up in arms wanting heads to roll because nothing of substance was done. Grow up and become critical thinkers. SRO's do a lot of good things for the kids that no one notices because most of them don't go out seeking recognition. I personally know of SRO's who have gone into the courtroom and advocated for students. Get your facts straight.

  • Confucius say Jun 4, 8:38 a.m.

    Yep, there it is, down near the bottom of the article. Stop harassing them AA students no matter how they act or what they do...they're entitled to special treatment.

  • stymieindurham Jun 4, 8:29 a.m.

    The school system definitely needs to have the school Police officer powers limited….Maybe even get rid of them all together.
    =========================================
    There's a reason the officer's are there. Don't you get it??? Wonder how long you'd last without them?

  • Brigand Jun 4, 8:28 a.m.

    You got to love this...

    “There is a gaping exception that says school resource officers can get involved anytime there is a violation of criminal law," said Jennifer Story, an attorney with Legal Aid of North Carolina's Advocate for Children Services.

    She had a problem that if the kids break the law, police can get involved!!!...This is why kids continue to get in trouble...there are people like her who don't believe in accountability, responsibility, or consequences for their behavior.

  • stymieindurham Jun 4, 8:27 a.m.

    She spent three weeks in jail because no parent or guardian was available . . . .
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    FOR THREE WEEKS?!!!!! Something's missing here . . . . and I don't mean her parents. But yet again, nothing is her fault.

  • JAT Jun 4, 8:23 a.m.

    The question I want to know is how far to we let them go with their power IE: do we let them use... View More

    — Posted by pudge64

    whatever they do, they're going to get criticized for it. Used to, a kid would listen to a teacher who said "stop fighting". Now, the kids have the attitude of "you can't tell me what to do" so something has to be done to protect the other students. Schools can't kick the bad kids out because they're obligated by law to educate them. Until society changes, we're going to continue to have to have more and more cops in schools. So to your question, yes, they should be able to use hands on and yes, they should be able to taser the worse kids WITHOUT the fear of a parent suing them or the school.

  • delta29alpha Jun 4, 8:21 a.m.

    I do not like the idea of SROs. The school should be a place to learn not be under the thumb of... View More

    — Posted by momeeee

    Of course it's also hard to learn anything when you are being disrupted by a bunch of delinquents too. There are always going to be a percentage of kids that are beyond the control of teachers and staff.

  • JAT Jun 4, 8:20 a.m.

    I'm sorry the girl had to stay in jail, but that's the foster system's fault. A child should never be "in-between" foster families. Where was she going to live if she hadn't been arrested? Maybe she's learned a valuable lesson - don't hit people or threaten them. If so, jail did her good.

  • ncprr1 Jun 4, 8:11 a.m.

    The SRO is a police officer, not a councilor. If someone breaks the law, it's his job to arrest them. I agree that some of them may be a little over zealous sometimes, but you can't hire them to do their job and then tell them not to do it.

  • disgusted2010 Jun 3, 4:14 p.m.

    The LEO mentality under the old wake DA and current sheriff is part of the problem.

    The "my word... View More

    — Posted by less_govt_is_better_govt

    Proof or just more slander?

  • Stilllearnin Jun 3, 3:29 p.m.

    If you do not want police/sheriffs officers to do what their sworn to do, hire private security guards!

  • ncguy Jun 3, 3:05 p.m.

    All they do is criminalize our youth, escalate minor youth behavior and collect a paycheck for it. They do not have any boundaries because the school admission has no jurisdiction over them.

  • momeeee Jun 3, 1:53 p.m.

    I do not like the idea of SROs. The school should be a place to learn not be under the thumb of the law. I do not like what this is teaching our kids - that it is ok to have your things searched without warrants.

  • sbr1963 Jun 3, 1:50 p.m.

    Well, maybe if parents started being parents to these kids that have given us a need for... View More

    — Posted by sbr1963

    Worse in what way? Bloody nose or black eye? Those things happened for decades.

    Or do you mean a... View More

    — Posted by paulej

    No I mean when an administrator is trying to break up a fight and ends up with his head through a plate glass window! I agree that these kids need to be gone, but from my experience the administrators no longer have a back bone to do anything because of the calls of racisms or threat of lawsuits. These kids are given way too many chances and the parents don't care to do anything about it.

  • Felton23 Jun 3, 12:06 p.m.

    "But a federal complaint filed in January against the district, the Wake County Sheriff’s Office and several police departments claims school resource officers unnecessarily criminalize students for minor incidents, pushing them into the justice system."

    LOL.

  • pudge64 Jun 3, 11:56 a.m.

    The question I want to know is how far to we let them go with their power IE: do we let them use hands on to break up fights or should taser be used on these kids..thoughts.

  • 88zooloo Jun 3, 11:14 a.m.

    SRO's are vital. anyone who claims that they push "kids" into the court systems unnecessarily is ignorant and misinformed. the majority of violations go to teen court, not the justice system. teen court has proven much more effective. if they don't complete teen court, then they go into the system for adjudication. some do bypass teen court and go right into the system and I am sure they are most deserving. teen court carries no permanent record of any kind.

    as far as a lone gunman. maybe an SRO will neutralize him/her or not. I certainly hope so. but they are certainly more equipped and trained to do so then school administrators. no. SRO's are necessary and a wonderful asset for the students, PD and community as a whole.

  • scubagirl2 Jun 3, 10:45 a.m.

    If one group is affected more than others perhaps we should be considering why the behavior of... View More

    — Posted by justabumer

    ding, ding, ding!!!!

  • paulej Jun 3, 10:42 a.m.

    Well, maybe if parents started being parents to these kids that have given us a need for... View More

    — Posted by sbr1963

    Worse in what way? Bloody nose or black eye? Those things happened for decades.

    Or do you mean a gun shot? If that, then I'd say the school needs to just get rid of the kids entirely. a RO isn't going to fix something that broken.

    Bring back the wooden "board of education". It worked for hundreds of years.

  • justabumer Jun 3, 9:52 a.m.

    Those who think that SRO's aren't need in the schools should chose a school, any school, and spend a couple of weeks there as a daily volunteer.

  • sbr1963 Jun 3, 9:52 a.m.

    Well, maybe if parents started being parents to these kids that have given us a need for resource officers, then may they would not be so necessary. But, since these parents don't want to step up to the plate and teach basic respect and responsibility this is what we have come to. I have two in high school and had the resource officer not been there during a couple of incidents the situations could have ended much worse. Teach your child how to behave in public and stop expecting the schools to do it!

  • paulej Jun 3, 9:46 a.m.

    Luvliving...yes, let's get rid of the SRO's because of one incident you know, and create a more... View More

    — Posted by Brigand

    Problem is sweetie, you are misinformed…there is not one single study that shows a school... View More

    — Posted by LuvLivingInCary

    Likely, it can't be proven, either. After all, the police can go to a school with minutes of a 911 call. Maybe that is too long to stop a lone gunman who enters the school. But, I'm pretty sure no single officer on campus is going to stop a determined lone gunman. They can't be everywhere at once.

    Meanwhile, there is constant tension between the police and students. The police carry an attitude and kids don't like it. I'm generalizing, but that's what my son tells me.

    The only reason there are officers in schools is Columbine, right? That started this whole zero tolerance mess. That also created tension. We need to take a step back and figure out where the train ran off the tracks.

  • pamjerro Jun 3, 9:45 a.m.

    I have worked in alternative schools in Wake County for 23 years. My experience has been that students can be dangerous and the police only step in whenever the school administrator either does not handle the situation or cannot handle it. I have worked with a number of terrific officers who make every effort to talk with kids and mentor them. Let's not make RPD the goat.

  • hardworker Jun 3, 9:34 a.m.

    How could someone play the racist card in this situation??? It's 2014 and only a coward is racist. Lets face the facts. Yes there are people who are racist in this world who are closer to you and I than we think but if a white officer know that a home of black owners is burning up do you think they are not going to try to save a life? Yes they will try!

  • justabumer Jun 3, 9:33 a.m.

    If one group is affected more than others perhaps we should be considering why the behavior of that group is so much worse than others.

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