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  • kennedy63 Apr 14, 5:42 p.m.

    Personally Im a christain and an avid runner who loves being outside and running race's. I think Raleigh having events such as these are great.It a awesome feeling running in a group of that many people everyone having a good time and enjoy being healthy. However to me holding this event on a Sunday was not a good choice and disrespectful to those who go to the downtown churches. My only thought is next time do it on a Saturday ! Then everyone is happy there is no problems or issues and everyone wins! its a no brainer..Come on people have a clue!

  • geoherb1 Apr 14, 11:41 a.m.

    I participated in the half marathon. From my perspective, it looked like most of the downtown churches along the route would not have any problem with their services. I was in the last group of runners--starting at 7:45. We were clear of Blount Street by 8:30. The route did bring us back to downtown, but there were plenty of ways around it.

  • Super Hans Apr 13, 8:30 p.m.

    The headline should read: "Two Dead After WRAL Sponsored Palm Sunday Church Blocking Marathon"... View More

    — Posted by tsquaring

    Agreed. This whole thing was a travesty in so many ways.

  • tsquaring Apr 13, 6:34 p.m.

    The headline should read: "Two Dead After WRAL Sponsored Palm Sunday Church Blocking Marathon"

  • rgsjrs Apr 13, 3:34 p.m.

    The best thing that Raleigh could do would be to never allow this event here,ever. A "for profit" race ordained by the city council. There were many runners but the total was relatively small compared to Raleigh's population.
    By the way, when will I get my check for my portion of the "profit" ?
    If you want to run so much,get all the runners together,everyone can put $ in to buy about 8 acres of land, pave several tracks and run as long and as much as you want to.

  • billisgod Apr 13, 12:34 p.m.

    The day of the race: everything seemed well planned. The road closures were known well in advanced. Knew which road to get on to get dropped off. Personally, I thought it was well-planned and well attended, not only by the runners (sold out) but by spectators.

    The route is beautiful. It showcases Raleigh well. Running back into the city and seeing our city-skyline was beautiful. It was nice to share this with people outside of Raleigh and show how beautiful our city is. I hope it comes back. I hope it gets the word out about how fantastic Raleigh is and brings in more cool stuff, not just these types of road races, but other events. Great for business. Great for Raleigh residents. Great for pride of Raleighites.

  • packguy Apr 13, 12:22 p.m.

    I think the residents of downtown Raleigh and the folks who want to access downtown for church or any other activities need to organize to make sure these events get moved somewhere that doesn't heavily impact our ability to carry on our daily lives. My goodness, I love loud music (I drove to Va Beach last night to see Bruce Springsteen), but you're going to put rock bands in the downtown area and around a concentration of churches on PALM SUNDAY? Give me a break. You couldn't insult and inconvenience more people if you TRIED.

  • rkorenw Apr 13, 11:11 a.m.

    I just want to thank WRAL and the race organizers for working so hard to inform us of road closures and re-openings. I live downtown and frankly I'm burned out and pretty grouchy about another event that forces me to change my weekend plans, but they did a great job with this one and it is much appreciated. Just please, please can we not have every event downtown?!

  • RM24 Apr 13, 9:48 a.m.

    TARHEELTRAVELER21
    Yes, I would feel the same. Though we have many differences, Muslims and Christians still worship the same God. I wouldn't support impeding anyone's worship of God for a road race.

    Surely you are not this confused and are just trolling to upset folks.

  • mom97 Apr 13, 9:44 a.m.

    What exactly is a cooling neck "warp"? Guess the editor's coffee had not kicked when this was edited for spelling as it should have been "wrap".

  • Super Hans Apr 13, 9:18 a.m.

    I just got back from an early service. Which one of us will be better off in the long run? One who pays tribute to GOD or one who tries to obtain a false sense of importance by running or completing some "race". There is only one race worth running - the race to GOD!

  • cetingen2 Apr 13, 7:33 a.m.

    Skeeter.. the visitors to Raleigh are the ones running the race. The amount of money these events bring in are worth little inconvenience.

    All that said, leave it to WRAL to write "The start, delayed to allow late arrivals..., went of without a hitch...." Just a heads up guys, a delayed start is a hitch

  • theSnarkRemarks Apr 8, 3:18 p.m.

    Little shocked at the lack of consideration for anyone/anything else... not only a tremendous number of closures but the *placement* is especially ridiculous. Some of the roads being closed have few alternates - which are also being closed off! You're leaving people with no practical way of getting where they need to go. Not church in my case, but does it really matter? Either way it's horrible. Really unhappy with both the city and event organizers.

  • skeeter II Apr 5, 9:00 a.m.

    This another case where Raleigh events cutoff vehicle travel along Capital Bvd through the heart of town going south. Think of the impression on visitors trying to drive that route.

    Why not limit the events to the west of Capital Bvd, then people from Cary or south of Raleigh could use that route to get to their church.

    They say that the police will be instructed to let vehicle cross the race path when no racers are in that area. This has never happen in the past, so how will it work this time? Remember that these are OFF-DUTY police officers.

    Still do not know where the LIVE BANDS will be setup. There could be a NOISE problem in that area. Will they be playing continuously or just when racers are running by? Will the NOISE level be within City requirements?

    Many unanswered questions that there has been plenty of time to anticipate and address.

  • dwr1964 Apr 2, 7:08 p.m.

    DURHAMBULL......you used the word "if". This is the biggest word in the dictionary. Let me put it another way. "If" my aunt had stones, she'd be my uncle

  • dwr1964 Apr 2, 7:03 p.m.

    Durham Bull,

    It's not just about me. It's about the thousands of people who worship downtown.... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    So if this was a major Muslin Holiday and the Christians had planned a half marathon, shut down... View More

    — Posted by DURHAMBULL

    Now this folks, is a perfect example of someone who enjoys instigating things. He/she doesn't actually care about whatever event or gathering may be happening. This person simply wants to start a fight. Just like the first graders at any elementary school in the country. It's too bad you have no clue how to make your point.

  • JennyB Apr 2, 4:27 p.m.

    Geo, I'm walking the half and plan to attend the afternoon service at my church as well! I guess I don't see the huge fuss because I don't live downtown. I'd also like to assume that the bands are strategically placed and not set up right outside church.

  • geoherb1 Apr 2, 4:06 p.m.

    I'm walking in the half marathon. I'll be finished in time for church. Someone who's competing in the full marathon should be finished in time for the afternoon service.

  • Bill Brasky Apr 2, 3:12 p.m.

    I can only hope that this is the first and LAST TIME rock 'n 'roll decides to Bless Raleigh ith... View More

    — Posted by davmci29

    Why not do a Palm Saturday?

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    Why not do the race on Saturday????

    — Posted by Ambygirl

    Sounds fine to me

  • Ambygirl Apr 2, 1:04 p.m.

    I can only hope that this is the first and LAST TIME rock 'n 'roll decides to Bless Raleigh ith... View More

    — Posted by davmci29

    Why not do a Palm Saturday?

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    Why not do the race on Saturday????

  • bizarro Apr 2, 12:00 p.m.

    Why not have the marathon in a more rural area?

  • TarHeelTraveler21 Apr 2, 10:49 a.m.

    Durham Bull,

    It's not just about me. It's about the thousands of people who worship downtown.... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    So if this was a major Muslin Holiday and the Christians had planned a half marathon, shut down... View More

    — Posted by DURHAMBULL

    Yes, I would feel the same. Though we have many differences, Muslims and Christians still worship the same God. I wouldn't support impeding anyone's worship of God for a road race.

  • busyb97 Apr 2, 10:26 a.m.

    And what about the miles and miles of greenways in the area? After the race starts, runners spread out anyway. Many of the greenways are pretty wide, and certainly more scenic.

  • Lone Voice in the Wilderness Apr 2, 10:06 a.m.

    LONE VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS - I'm glad that your church practices acceptance. My comment... View More

    — Posted by Red Sox Nation

    Yet, many downtown churches are going to be the ones that are going to be the more tolerant. So, the irony of the situation is that the most tolerant churches, many of which will be observing Passion Sunday, are the ones that will be affected by the road closures.

  • DURHAMBULL Apr 2, 9:51 a.m.

    Durham Bull,

    It's not just about me. It's about the thousands of people who worship downtown.... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    So if this was a major Muslin Holiday and the Christians had planned a half marathon, shut down streets etc.. , blocking muslins from their place of worship, for their event you would feel the same? Or would you say well we have this Christian half marathon for jesus planned and it's the most important thing!

  • Red Sox Nation Apr 2, 9:45 a.m.

    MISSCHRIS234 - Pointing out the irony in a situation isn't an "agenda".

  • Red Sox Nation Apr 2, 9:44 a.m.

    LONE VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS - I'm glad that your church practices acceptance. My comment wasn't all encompassing. Even you have to admit that there is a large number of religious folk that do not practice tolerance. So yes, it is pretty ironic that they are now saying that everyone must respect them on their holiday. The event could have absolutely been planned better. But the irony of the situation is rather comical.

  • misschris234 Apr 2, 9:26 a.m.

    Hmmmmm........Odd. You want me to respect your religion, but the church folk often complain... View More

    — Posted by Red Sox Nation

    My church is in the ELCA, and we are an open and affirming congregation in an open & affirming... View More

    — Posted by Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    Facts so many conveniently forget when it doesn't fit their agenda.

  • Lone Voice in the Wilderness Apr 2, 9:20 a.m.

    Hmmmmm........Odd. You want me to respect your religion, but the church folk often complain... View More

    — Posted by Red Sox Nation

    My church is in the ELCA, and we are an open and affirming congregation in an open & affirming denomination. Also downtown and in the mix is Pullen Memorial Baptist, who got kicked out of the SBC for being gay tolerant.
    Not to mention, First Baptist likewise left the SBC over equality issues.
    Many Christians, including Rev. Barber of the NC NAACP as well as the NC Council of Churches, opposed Amendment 1.

  • Eric the Actor Apr 2, 8:47 a.m.

    Running makes baby Jeebus cry.

  • misschris234 Apr 2, 8:44 a.m.

    I don't attend church but I am educated enough to know that Palm Sunday is a very important day on the Christian calendar. Those asking people to "just go to another church" or "do it on another day", seriously? How is that tolerance working for you? The tolerance everyone screams about? The organizers of this event knew that this was a Christian holiday, and anyone that knows anything about downtown knows how many churches don the streets. Regardless of whether you are Christian or not, I think it is very unfair to mock such an important day and not even TRY to understand why so many people are upset. The organizers could have better planned this so that everyone could be accommodate everyone. There are events in other cities where the route does not include NEARLY as many churches. It was poor planning and was done far enough in advance that it didn't need to be. We aren't talking one church here. And we aren't talking about "just any other Sunday".

  • Red Sox Nation Apr 2, 7:49 a.m.

    Hmmmmm........Odd. You want me to respect your religion, but the church folk often complain about same sex marriages. Funny that you don't like being treated the way you treat people. Take this is a message from a higher power and learn from it

  • Leland Olds Apr 2, 6:28 a.m.

    I hope the city will learn from this experience and NEVER again impose this inconvenience on the... View More

    — Posted by methinkthis

    I don't know. You guys get 364 days out of the year; maybe you could leave one to everyone else.... View More

    — Posted by Leland Olds

    I'm religious, but I'm not bent out of shape. Palm Sunday is the start of Holy Week, the most... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    I hear you, but, as you say, Raleigh is a pluralistic place. If we are serious about respecting other faiths, and the standard we're going to apply is "one of the" most important days, we're not going to have many days left.

  • TarHeelTraveler21 Apr 1, 10:32 p.m.

    I hope the city will learn from this experience and NEVER again impose this inconvenience on the... View More

    — Posted by methinkthis

    I don't know. You guys get 364 days out of the year; maybe you could leave one to everyone else.... View More

    — Posted by Leland Olds

    I'm religious, but I'm not bent out of shape. Palm Sunday is the start of Holy Week, the most sacred time of the year for Christians. I'm just suggesting that a pluralistic place like Raleigh take that into account when it plans city-wide events. Having worshiped downtown during other races, I can tell you that there's no place to park and people stand outside your church cheering, blowing air horns, ringing cowbells, etc. while you're trying to pray. I understand that RNR is important for the city; I just wish they should find a way to do it that doesn't cause such a disruption to Christians trying to worship on one of the holiest days of their year.

  • Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Apr 1, 8:25 p.m.

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    OMG! LOL! Love your name!!!

  • Leland Olds Apr 1, 7:54 p.m.

    I hope the city will learn from this experience and NEVER again impose this inconvenience on the... View More

    — Posted by methinkthis

    I don't know. You guys get 364 days out of the year; maybe you could leave one to everyone else. I actually hate these events, but all of the religious getting all bent out of shape because race organizers failed to kiss their rings is not particularly sympathetic.

  • methinkthis Apr 1, 7:01 p.m.

    WRAL: your RNR on Palm Sunday is an extremely poor choice of events to sponsor. Even with the modified route you are disrespecting a large number of residents for an event that does not need to be on Palm Sunday nor close so many streets.

  • methinkthis Apr 1, 6:53 p.m.

    I hope the city will learn from this experience and NEVER again impose this inconvenience on the residents. Palm Sunday is an important day in the Christian calendar. It is a day when people go to church and have a meal together at a local restaurant. This event unnecessarily makes this difficult if not impossible. Instead of being a reason to go downtown it is a reason to stay away from downtown. It is a slap in the face of the residents. A good reason to boycott the downtown area for a few weeks.

  • Bill Brasky Apr 1, 5:52 p.m.

    Can the churches do a Palm Monday? I mean sometimes I pray to Apollo on Tuesdays. He doesn't mind....but Zeus. That is an entire different story.

  • rduwxboy Apr 1, 5:24 p.m.

    "I agree, but their really stupid mistake was using a picture of the Durham skyline on the first brochures for this thing."-smh

    Agree with that. My post on the other Rock n Roll Race story was "I wonder if they are still showing Downtown Durham in their advertisements and facebook page?" They did in fact change it. Race is still sold out and it will be Raleigh making millions, not Durham.

  • TarHeelTraveler21 Apr 1, 5:16 p.m.

    Durham Bull,

    It's not just about me. It's about the thousands of people who worship downtown. Their spiritual needs are just as important as any other interest. In any case, had there been proper planning, this wouldn't have been an issue. Putting the race on a Saturday instead of a Sunday would have avoided the conflict between Palm Sunday and the race and still would have allowed area businesses to get a boost. That seems like a good compromise to me.

    As far as attending another church, I don't think it's fair to ask worshipers to leave their church and worship elsewhere just in the interest of tourism dollars. Yes, economic development is important but no more so than spiritual development. To those for whom these things matter, churches aren't fungible.

  • DURHAMBULL Apr 1, 5:04 p.m.

    As someone who attends church downtown, I’m very disappointed that the City of Raleigh... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    What about the hotels, local shops, restaurants, waiters and waiteresses that are counting on the boost in income from this event? They should suffer because of you not wanting to be put out? I guess sometimes you have to realize that life isn't all about you...

    How about this, worship at a different church on Palm Sunday? It's the triangle, I'm sure there are plenty of options.

  • "Screen Name-8/20" Apr 1, 4:58 p.m.

    "Again, a complete lack of intellect in the planning of an event in Raleigh" - A PERSON

    You have... View More

    — Posted by rduwxboy

    -

    I agree, but their really stupid mistake was using a picture of the Durham skyline on the first brochures for this thing.
    smh

  • 68_dodge_polara Apr 1, 4:55 p.m.

    As someone who attends church downtown, I’m very disappointed that the City of Raleigh... View More

    — Posted by TarHeelTraveler21

    Not mention those that have to choose between attending service and the race. This is why we are missing the Raleigh marathon it's such a shame to have to skip the closest marathon.

  • TarHeelTraveler21 Apr 1, 4:39 p.m.

    As someone who attends church downtown, I’m very disappointed that the City of Raleigh scheduled this race on Palm Sunday. Crowds, traffic, closed streets, reduced parking, rock bands, and cheering fans with air horns, cowbells, etc. make it difficult for people of faith to celebrate this holy day. Those promoting the race tout the fact that they’ve given churches in the area advanced warning about the inconveniences; however, the warning doesn’t do anything to obviate the problem. It seems like the race was planned without anyone giving a thought to Palm Sunday and the hardship it might work on worshipers.

  • davmci29 Apr 1, 4:32 p.m.

    I can only hope that this is the first and LAST TIME rock 'n 'roll decides to Bless Raleigh ith... View More

    — Posted by davmci29

    Why not do a Palm Saturday?

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    Is this a parody post? You may or may not choose to worship on Sundays, or moreso on Palm Sunday, but to ask "why", smacks of a parody post.

    Down town raleigh has some of the oldest and most recognized churches all within 3 blocks of each other. The prior ROUTE, before R'N'R so generously "altered" the route precluded ALL OF THOSE church's members from reaching their church. Not altered or inconvenienced.. It precluded it completely. An alliance of Down town churches met with the organizing committee and asked/begged them to alter the route (and I mean MONTHS and months ago). they refused. Then magically the title sponsor, WRAL, was drug into it and R'N'R magically and graciously Altered the route.

    Its Palm Sunday. If you don't worship, fine, I'm not judging. But to ignore the significance of the day to downtown churches, is uneducated, insensitive, and shortsighted.

  • rduwxboy Apr 1, 4:32 p.m.

    "Again, a complete lack of intellect in the planning of an event in Raleigh" - A PERSON

    You have to be one of the unhappiest people on earth. The majority of Raleigh welcomes events like this because it is events like this that continues to make Raleigh be a best place to live, year after year. I'm not running the marathon, but I live in an affected area. I'll put out a sign congratulating the runners and hopefully enjoy a nice spring morning with an extra cup of coffee.

  • Bill Brasky Apr 1, 3:59 p.m.

    They need to start sharing some of these races with North Raleigh. Living in Cameron Village,... View More

    — Posted by Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    Yeah, that will get alot of out of town runners...Come experience the sites of N Raleigh...lol

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    what are the sites in downtown...Krispy Kreme, Chavis Heights brick apartments from the 60's, DH... View More

    — Posted by tllight

    You must not of been downtown lately...
    The State Capital, legislature, Museums, RBC building,... View More

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    Oh...and huge concert for all runners at the end of the run at Red Hat amptheatre

  • Bill Brasky Apr 1, 3:57 p.m.

    They need to start sharing some of these races with North Raleigh. Living in Cameron Village,... View More

    — Posted by Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    Yeah, that will get alot of out of town runners...Come experience the sites of N Raleigh...lol

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    what are the sites in downtown...Krispy Kreme, Chavis Heights brick apartments from the 60's, DH... View More

    — Posted by tllight

    You must not of been downtown lately...
    The State Capital, legislature, Museums, RBC building, Red Hat, Yes Chavis Heights(great view of the city from there, Oakwood, Peace University, Cameron Village, NC State, Little theatre, and the future Dorothea Dix Park, which has a spectacular view of the city.

  • tllight Apr 1, 3:52 p.m.

    They need to start sharing some of these races with North Raleigh. Living in Cameron Village,... View More

    — Posted by Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    Yeah, that will get alot of out of town runners...Come experience the sites of N Raleigh...lol

    — Posted by Bill Brasky

    what are the sites in downtown...Krispy Kreme, Chavis Heights brick apartments from the 60's, DH Hill Library , McDonalds and zaxsbys on Hillsbooring....N Raleigh could offer nature whereas downtown offers sewer drains smells

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