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  • srw4720 Feb 14, 2014

    Since the 2007 HM on J the Rev and his groups got 108 million dollars, that is tax payer's dollars from the then Dem General Assembly. His money was cut off in 2013 and he is mad. That is the only reason he marches. Call it Money Monday Marches.

  • Danny22 Feb 13, 2014

    What is really funny is these folks have been checking ID's of the marchers.

  • Hubris Feb 11, 2014

    "Tens of thousands representing a number of different political and social issues clogged Raleigh's Wilmington and Fayetteville streets for what planners dubbed the "Moral March."

    LOL "Tens of thousands" More like tens of hundreds or at most 1000 people.

    Just think about the logistics. That small area can't hold that many people. It would take weeks for Raleigh, Capitol and State police to organize such a huge rally. The claim is a just a lie.

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Feb 11, 2014

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    We *hear* what you are saying, but *see* what you are doing:

    -Not expanding Medicaid and costing NC $12 Billion, which leaves tens of thousands of WORKING poor people without healthcare...just because they don't like Obama.

    -Requiring poor people to travel to a government agency, fill out government forms, obtain a government-issued card with their photo on it, retain said card forever...just so they can exercise their Constitutional Rights...because of some fantasy created by rightwingers that will keep thousands of poor and elderly from voting

    -Continuing to cut taxes for the ultra rich (to the lowest rates in several decades) at the detriment of the poor. Bread & gasoline costs the same to a Billionaire and a minimum-wage earner.

    ...and on and on

    IMO...all of THAT is "immoral" and THAT is why we are angry and marching...for the poor. It's called "do unto others as you would have done unto you."

  • ILoveDowntownRaleigh Feb 10, 2014

    "By the way, the pictures show alot of white people.....Im just saying" - darkhorse94

    That's true. Among the thousands of people in the Moral March, you can find whatever you're looking for, and a whole lot more. Don't be shy. What exactly was your point?

  • darkhorse94 Feb 10, 2014

    Headline rewrite: With the help of the NC liberal media, " Moral March advances variety of issues." Let's play find the most outrageous picket sign and depict the entire march around it.
    By the way, the pictures show alot of white people.....Im just saying.

  • darkhorse94 Feb 10, 2014

    Headline rewrite: With the help of the NC liberal media, " Moral March advances variety of issues." Let's play find the most outrageous picket sign and depict the entire march around it.
    By the way, the pictures show alot of white people.....Im just saying.

  • educgrad Feb 10, 2014

    So why did they bus in all these people who don't live in Raleigh or even in NC.Did they just pay these people to come ?

  • david46 Feb 10, 2014

    We all know why conservatives do no show up and whine and cry when the liberals are in charge. They are to busy at WORK. Some body has to pay the taxes so these moochers can collect their gov't cheese. And by the way all the ones that were bused in were told to be sure and have their ID's. Yet they are here to protest voter ID. Hypocritical?

  • mike275132 Feb 10, 2014

    Very "Moral" to :

    Kill Babies- "Abortion Rights".

    Homosexual "Marriage"

    More Welfare and dependency on government [ Hardworking taxpayers]"This is not about liberals versus conservatives," Barber said. "It's about right versus wrong."

    Well Barber you are correct there , although not in the way you think.

    It is about socialist ideology preached by the Democrats,

    And the most of NC Citizens and the principles that built this country.

  • Super Hans Feb 10, 2014

    Equality NOW!

  • GK N.Ral Feb 10, 2014

    How many of these marchers voted? If they did not vote, why not? If they voted, why are they not willing to accept the outcome of the elections?

  • razor2 Feb 10, 2014

    Simply insisting the govt take care of people is a true cop out... again... pathetic.

    Pathetic is the talking points provided by the republicans claiming people taking money from one group to give to another
    added to people not working due to free money lies .. just a few yanked out of the
    Pribus package of blow these talking pts out of proportion and keep harping on them until you make people think the lies are true is just plain pathetic as well as
    the only way the republican party can fight back . Spinning stories that arent true is typical of this type of voter as well as a selfish streak a mile long proven by the dirty accounting tricks they use to not pay a fair wage benefits etc...... A republican only cares about lining his own pockets and its everyman for himself
    dog eat dog. so take your half truths and go stick them where the sun don't shine...... The only truth a republican will tell you is when its beneficial for them and they can squeeze more out of their employee

  • Naysayer Feb 10, 2014

    I really enjoy watching the protesters on TV, the aging hippies, the folks who are looking for more "freebies", and every other special interest "victim group" out there. The best part for me is that we finally have a common sense Gov't in NC, who will say enough is enough, we are not catering to every vocal special interest group that comes along with hand extended. The tax payers in this state have had enough and we finally a gov't in this state that agrees. Good riddance to "Good Old Bev" and her cronies. Can't wait for Hagan to make a similar exit.

  • Stilllearnin Feb 10, 2014

    "If they see this crowd, if they are smart, they will listen"

    People bused in from other states, and New York and Washington DC doesn't have major problems?

  • Terry Watts Feb 10, 2014

    MEP: "Insisting that the government take more money from a particular group of people, and hand it over to another is simply using the government to steal.... "

    ...says the guy that supports Private School Vouchers. You know, the new GOP system that would "take more money from a particular group and hand it over to another"...

  • Ty Shrake Feb 10, 2014

    "This protest is about how the Republicans don't care about poor people ..." - JUSTONEGODLESSTHANYOU

    Which makes it misguided right out of the gate and is a big part of the reason these people should be ignored. They're protesting something that isn't even true.

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Feb 10, 2014

    For those here who can't seem to get past the NAACP, you may want to actually *look* at the pictures of the crowd to see who is protesting.

    This protest is about how the Republicans don't care about poor people and the Republican actions that demonstrate this. (e.g. not expanding Medicaid which leaves thousands without healthcare, cutting voting days by half, requiring government ID cards to exercise Constitutional Right to vote)

  • jackaroe123 Feb 10, 2014

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    Irony, sure, but not hypocrisy.

  • Ijaz Fahted Feb 10, 2014

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    Steve makes no point. 5 of those 7 issues were caused by the GOP, Patty "I'm not gonna make any further changes to abortion law" McPope, and your GOP led NCGA.

    Last I checked, Democrats weren't pushing for restrictions on abortions, restrictions on same sex marriage, cutting benefits to medicaid, trying to get fracking into NC, or asking for major changes to our NC voting laws.

    So yeah, great point by Steve.

  • Olenc Native Feb 10, 2014

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    Taxes are not stealing. If you don't approve of taxes, you can move to a place that doesn't require you pay them like, oh, nowhere.

  • Ijaz Fahted Feb 10, 2014

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    What is really amazing is that folks keep focusing on the ID bit when the rest of the new restrictions are worse than requiring an ID. I really wish folks would get over the ID thing and look at the other restrictive laws they put out on voting.

  • Pirate01 Feb 10, 2014

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    Can you just simply not see the irony??

  • Phil Larson Feb 10, 2014

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    Your friend found a parking space, ergo there was nobody downtown. Hilarious.

  • jwbmom1965 Feb 10, 2014

    The whole entire govt needs to be replaced. These people dont have Americas interest whatsoever. It is their agenda and what THEY want. Starting with our president. He is the worse we have ever had. It is sad to see what this country is gonna be like in 2016 if he isnt forced out, and Pat McCrory has been the biggest disappointment as governor we have seen in a long time. He must not want to be re-elected cause he sure has done some stupid things in this short time he has been in. We need some real leadership, we need a president like Ben Carson.

  • jackaroe123 Feb 10, 2014

    "If you read the list of do's and don'ts, it certainly didn't sound like it was a where on the sheet does it say that any of those items were suggestions."

    The "DO" list includes eating a healthy breakfast, wearing a hat, and wearing comfortable shoes. Try to count all the hatless people in the crowd pics. How do you interpret those as mandatory requirements as opposed to recommendations?

  • woodrock223 Feb 10, 2014

    "Everybody wants a change," said demonstrator Joyce Gresham.

    why is that? is obama's "change" not working out like you had expected?

    sounds like this was just a big whining march. i'm sorry fast food workers, if you want more money, go to school, find another job, do something YOURSELF!!!! i went to wendys this weekend and they couldnt even make my hamburger without lettuce and tomato. and we need to pay you more? no

  • Alan Baker Feb 10, 2014

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    My experience is similar. The more time you spend helping the people affected by the current Assembly's policies the more the MM marches seem not only logical but necessary. A lot of good people are being hurt on multiple levels and it's only the ignorant, the mean, and those with something to gain from the current climate that are trying to paint everyone involved as jobless and looking for handouts. Shame on them regardless of which of those three categories they fall.

  • Sandra Elizabeth Feb 10, 2014

    Oh, and they lied about the amount of people. LOL what a JOKE. My friend had no trouble finding parking before the streets were closed off. Hmmm.

  • unc70 Feb 10, 2014

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    Don't assume everyone else is like you and your friends. The people I know involved with MMM are very active and generous with their time and resources.

  • Maurice Pentico Jr. Feb 10, 2014

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    No where in the Bible does it ever indicate that it is the role of the government to care for the needs of the poor. Jesus never demanded money from the people... only to hand it out indiscriminately. In fact, the Bible gives clear direction on who should be providing for the needs of the poor... and how it is to be done. None of which is being exercised by the government. Taxes are NOT a persons obligation to the poor.... nor is it the responsibility of the govt to care for them. The Bible is clear that caring for the poor is a personal act... and that there are certain responsibility for those accepting the charity. A person that will not work shall not eat. Field owners left behind crops for the poor to pick themselves, giving them dignity. The govt neither cares who gets the handouts, nor the persons dignity, and dependency is the result.

  • Justic4All Feb 10, 2014

    Downtowner - Gerrymandering? You are like a broken 78 RPM record. Just get out there and march!! Get some fresh air for your grey matter and exercise to stimulate your blood flow. Gerrymandering?? PAleeese!

  • itsnotatumah Feb 10, 2014

    Did anyone else see the flyer sent out to attendees beforehand? It said “DO bring photo identification (driver's license, passport or other valid photo ID) with you and keep it on your persons at all times.” as one of the do's and don'ts.

  • Danny Cole Feb 10, 2014

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    Show me anyplace where early voting is a right. In fact we should only have one day to vote. But if you can't get it done in the 2 weeks the law specifies then you don't need to be voting in the first place.

  • Maurice Pentico Jr. Feb 10, 2014

    Moral seems subjective to these folks... abortion, gay marriage, more govt handouts for all... less voter protections... Nothing moral here.

    I'd be surprised if 1 out of every ten of these "protesters" actually gives to charities that help support the poor, or spend any time at a homeless shelter, food bank, or otherwise be productive towards the very causes they claim to champion.

    Rebels without a clue.

  • Alan Baker Feb 10, 2014

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    As far as I'm concerned 50,000+ Americans willing to take time from their weekend (you know, when many of them probably didn't have to go to their jobs) in order to show an interest in the way they are being governed and demand representation is something to be celebrated, validating everything the Founding Fathers hoped for this country.

    As far as the rest of your comment, maybe you might want to rethink that whole "Virtual" thing. There's some sections of the Bible that are clearly giving you trouble.

  • Justic4All Feb 10, 2014

    I think this has becaome a gereat way to get old people needed exercise in the winter. Fresh air, nice little hike on pavement. The marches are short enough not to hurt the oldsters but long enough to have media coverage and a way over the top estimate of participants. I look forward to the weekly Reverend Joker Barber Show. I just hope and pray they get front seats in court. Also fines increase substantially for repeat offenders. NC GA should pass a law just for that purpose. Should turn these marches into a profitable event for the state or county judicial treasury. Justify the new Justice Center.

  • Danny Cole Feb 10, 2014

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    Not one said you need an ID to march. The Moral Misfits you support required that. If you could only read and comprehend.

  • trotter2047 Feb 10, 2014

    Wait.. this is "MORAL"march? Advocating abortion, gay marriage, not to mention entitlement, and PLEASE how unreasonable is it to have voter ID, you have to have ID to pick your kid up from school, go the the library, bank..

  • Richard Trantham Feb 10, 2014

    Moral March? Please. Why don't you pick up some morals and get a job? Then maybe you could use your own money to help our less fortunate worthless citizenry.

  • 68_dodge_polara Feb 10, 2014

    "Moral March advances variety of issues"

    Which can be summed up as giveme giveme giveme ...

  • Lisa Menendez Feb 10, 2014

    New York and D.C. You've got to be joking. Don't they have enough issues themselves and shouldn't be wasting time in NC. Also, please stop going around telling crying about ID's. How do many use the health department without and ID? 2nd if you want kids to learn you will to start holding more parents responsible for their kids not participating in school as they should.

  • downtowner Feb 10, 2014

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    I'd love to hear you explain how the Republican gerrymandering of 2010 is moral. I'll go get my popcorn, this is gonna be a hoot.

  • Jack Jones Feb 10, 2014

    Sorry so many conservatives have been fooled to believe IDs are required for the Moral March. Perhaps these folks should read up on our constitution, specifically free speech.

  • Dana McCall Feb 10, 2014

    Some estimate that 80,000 people were there. While there were busloads of people sent here by out-of-state unions and other groups, wouldn't if be nice if the 200,000+ man-hours spent on this activity were directed at building skills for young, at-risk teenagers? Teach how to paint, how to cook, how to lay bricks, how to clean, how to code on a computer, and if they don't know how to read, make SURE they can do that. I'd be impressed if these people spent their time bettering society instead of complaining about the agenda of those victorious in the most recent election.

    "Elections have consequences...and at the end of the day, I won." - President Obama

  • AppSt1998 Feb 10, 2014

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    If you read the list of do's and don'ts, it certainly didn't sound like it was a where on the sheet does it say that any of those items were suggestions.

  • Super Hans Feb 10, 2014

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    Quickly pass? He was elected to a 2nd term and if he were allowed to run again, he would easily win. Don't worry, though - I'm sure President Rodham Clinton will do a fine job as well.

  • Jack Jones Feb 10, 2014

    Actually, requirement to show specific ID to vote is only one of the voter suppression tactics woven into this ALEC legislation. Republicans are afraid to defend cutting early voting time, eliminating same-day registration, eliminating pre-registration in high schools, taxing parents if children vote at college, cutting funding for registration drives, etc.

  • Danny Cole Feb 10, 2014

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    read if you are able Article X of the Constitution. then Article 15. Hope that helps since you can't read it and comprehend it for yourself.

  • lost in translation Feb 10, 2014

    I was downtown for the donut run on Saturday. After the run we went down towards Glenwood and further into town. I think the most telling part of this demonstration was the out of town/out of state people that were bussed to the event. I actually spoke to one of them from South Carolina. Their bus ride was free. They were not paid to attend. There concern was voter ID. Follow the money people.

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