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gregbscis Jan 28, 9:48 a.m.
I agree, with PJA's assessment. He was uninjured because he fell asleep, and they would have noticed if he was under the influence of any narcotic or alcohol by either smell and/or his eyes. If he had an epileptic seizure, he would have either lost his tongue and/or sustained another injury. Statistically speaking, falling asleep behind the wheel is actually more common than drivers under the influence. You just do not hear about them unless they kill someone.
Alexia Jan 27, 1:56 p.m.
If they did not take him to a hospital, then I would argue they have no way of knowing whether he has some medical condition. If they just take his word, then it might be that he was high on drugs, has epilepsy, diabetes, or some other issue that caused him to lose control.
pja1357 Jan 27, 1:48 p.m.
If he had a medical condition they would have taken him to the hospital. It states he was released on bond early Monday. That didn't give him enough time to think about what he has done. Remember when you are drunk or falling asleep you are a lot more relaxed than the person you are getting ready to hit. I know as I have been in a similar situation. If you are sleepy pull over and get out of the car and let someone else drive. If you are by yourself than pull into a place and take a nap then get out and walk around and drink some coffee. Someone has possibly lost a wonderful mother, or grandmother or sister, or aunt all because this guy make a very wrong choice to get behind the wheel.
regbill Jan 27, 1:18 p.m.
Please do not accelerate during a head on collision. There is a lot more involved in this equation then you explain here. You need to take into account the sudden deceleration (which can take into account moving backwards) as well as the mass of each vehicle. Speeding up means that you will decelerate faster, which leads to greater force, so you will most likely not benefit by speeding up. It's kind of hard to calculate all of this into during a wreck. Try solving a few example scenarios on paper and you'll soon see that accelerating actually causes more force at impact even if the other car/truck moves backwards. Then you throw in safety features which also absorb these forces differently and that adds a whole new set of equations to consider. Ultimately, please do not speed up during a head on collision. Just my thoughts.
Super Hans Jan 27, 12:37 p.m.
That was my first thought as well.
Alexia Jan 27, 12:33 p.m.
Maybe the man was up all night and half the day working in a factory? If so, perhaps his employer should be held liable.
Perhaps the man has a medical condition of which he was not aware. He might not have fallen "asleep", but passed out for some other reason.
Before you throw the book at this man, perhaps we should find out why he "fell asleep" first.
Obamacare prevails again Jan 27, 12:13 p.m.
The question now is, did the police have the median cable removed so they could use the area for U-turns in converting it to a speed trap?
AtALost Jan 27, 11:42 a.m.
"While she is at peace, I expect the life of the driver who fell asleep will never be."
Maybe if he's in jail for a long time, but if not, I doubt he'll think about it much. Only those grieving a loved one think about it often. Others write if off as a bad accident and get on with their lives. Sure they insist they can't get it out of their minds or dream about it while in court, but most are happy go lucky once there's no threat of prison.
OpinionatedMama Jan 27, 11:03 a.m.
Actually, he crossed in an area near a bridge overpass where cops usually sit to catch speeders and there IS NOT MEDIAN CABLE or anything to have kept him from crossing over.
wanderer Jan 27, 10:54 a.m.
After I started working 3rd shift years ago, I can't drive more than a couple of hours before I get sleepy. If my family is in the car, the moment I feel I'm sleepy, I'm pulling over and asking my wife to drive. If I'm alone, I will simply pull over someplace and get out of the car or occasionally take a quick nap. It isn't worth it to keep driving!
Cleanup on Aisle Cool Jan 27, 10:14 a.m.
I have noticed that when a drunk/sleepy driver hits another driver head on, the drunk/sleepy driver tends to survive, and the other driver tends to be seriously injured or killed. I believe that this is becuase the sleepy/drunk driver doesn't slow down and the other driver does. This ensures that the drunk/sleepy driver has more momentum in the collision (.5*m*v^2), and after the collision he proceeds forward, whereas the other driver ends up going backwards. Transitioning from going forward to suddenly going backward produces greater g-forces on the aware driver vs the drunk/sleepy driver.
So, i think that if you are going to be in a head-on collision with somethign that will "give" (like another vehicle - but not a wall or tree or other object that will not give) - you should speed up if you want to survive in order to have superior momentum and lessen the impact on you.
Flying Turtle Jan 27, 10:14 a.m.
This sounds like it might be another case of the median guard cables not doing their job. Solid rails are better.
Super Hans Jan 27, 10:05 a.m.
Look at his picture! You can tell he's not remorseful AT ALL!
Super Hans Jan 27, 9:59 a.m.
Well, we need to make it apply here! If he was "drunk", everyone would be screaming for his head. I fail to see the difference.
diana123 Jan 27, 9:51 a.m.
give him 10 years in prison.
gotnoid Jan 27, 9:45 a.m.
We are never promised tomorrow- This unfortunate lady or her family could never have imagined or foreseen this event.
While she is at peace, I expect the life of the driver who fell asleep will never be.
packalum09 Jan 27, 9:41 a.m.
Why did you choose to drive in your condition? Didn't you know that you were sleepy when you got behind the wheel of the car in the first place? Luckily, for you, you had a friend with you who could take over. But what if you had been alone? Would you have tried, like most drivers, to make it anyway even though you were tired? This is a tragic incident that yes, could have been avoided. However, stop judging as if there is no way that this could ever happen to you. By the way, I'm quite sure they did a report and didn't just take his word that he was tired.
sinenomine Jan 27, 9:32 a.m.
Similar stories always seem to elicit similar comments. For instance stories where a gun death occurred always tend to bring out the same commenters and much the same comments; same with stories involving bicycle riders getting hit.
Another example is the story, like this one, where an elderly driver is involved in a crash.
If the 83 year old woman had been at fault in this crash you can bet dollars to donuts that the comments would be trending toward saying that all drivers over X years of age should have their licenses taken away regardless of their prior records.
No one is saying that all 22 year olds should have their licenses taken away because the killer in this crash was 22. Nor should anyone.
My point is that there are good and bad drivers in any age group. As long as someone meets the legal requirements for getting and holding a license they should be permitted to do so.
Obamacare prevails again Jan 27, 9:32 a.m.
This is a good point. He may have been drowsy after overeating at the local Ihop.
Pepe Silvia Jan 27, 9:30 a.m.
The time of day makes no difference because not everyone's work schedules and sleeping habits are the same. 5pm or 5am, the same rule applies - you should not operate a vehicle if you are that tired.
sinenomine Jan 27, 9:19 a.m.
Bellabee, my definition of an accident is when a casualty like this crash occurs which could not have been avoided despite the greatest amount of care and foresight on the part of the parties involved.
This was not an "accident". This man fell asleep at the wheel, a foreseeable possibility for any driver. We all know the warning symptoms of drowsiness and we all know what we're supposed to do when we feel them when driving. If we fail to act appropriately then we can be charged with any resulting crash.
EricaSliver Jan 27, 9:16 a.m.
How tragic for this woman...my thoughts are with her family and friends as well as those injured in this accident.
towermansgirl Jan 27, 9:15 a.m.
i was four cars behind the guy in silver when this happened. most horrific thing ive ever seen. my heart goes out to the families of all involved. i said to my bf "i think we just saw someone die" i feel this guy is wrong and should be charged. he made the decision to get behind that wheel, and changed lives forever, and ended one. this could have been avoided! just the other day i had a friend with me and i was sleepy, kept drifting, at one point i said " im sorry but i need you to drive" it was as easy as that. his life will forever be haunted by the fact that he chose to drive in that condition, and he took a life. has anything been said about a tox report? or was he really just "tired"?
BlahBlahBlahBlahBlah Jan 27, 9:08 a.m.
He could have the narcolepsy sleep disorder...Some people get extremely sleepy if they eat one of those huge Sunday dinners..I know that I have felt very sleepy on some Sundays as I am driving from a huge family meal..We just can not judge this young man until we know more...
jackaroe123 Jan 27, 9:05 a.m.
Uh, if anyone has to die, I suppose it's preferable that the person at fault be that person, but it is not unfortunate that ANYONE survives. That's really horrible phrasing.
Obamacare prevails again Jan 27, 8:56 a.m.
Charge this man with murder. No excuse for falling asleep at the wheel, especially at 5 pm.
btneast Jan 27, 8:52 a.m.
He was charged because he was at fault. Whether he intended to or not doesn't change the fact that he was at fault. There really is no such thing as an accident....there is always a "cause", whether it be intentional, negligent or not.
bellabee Jan 27, 8:35 a.m.
Just a question: when is an accident just that? Don't chew my head off, please. I'm truly just asking. I understand he fell asleep at the wheel and I understand there was a death. Not saying he shouldn't have been charged but also not understanding why he was. Can someone explain?
didisaythat Jan 27, 8:30 a.m.
Can't charge a felony, because it appears he was not under the influence. I was traveling east on 40 and passed this a short time after it occurred. It is amazing he survived, unfortunately. Not that I want anyone to die, but he being the cause should be the one that dies, not an innocent driver.
LocalYokel Jan 27, 8:20 a.m.
Driver that crossed center of divided highway should be charged with felony not misdemeanor.
How many tickets were issued on this stretch of roadway before this wreck?
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03