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RaleighMan Jan 14, 2014
Any framer willing to go 3 stories up, plus a fully sheathed roof, plus all exterior wall sheathing installed, while would definitely not be coming back on my jobsite. No excuse for all bracing not to be in place at that stage of construction. You can’t start an upper level until the supporting structure it will bear on is properly plumbed and braced off.
dlnorri Jan 14, 2014
THe engnineer is right, the storm/collapse could have occurred in working hours with much different consequences. The building should have with stood the wind. It appears were saving nails, as the residential code calls for nails every 3" on edge and 6" on center and a few other items that appear missing in the video. Watch the pieces of nearly undamaged OSB falland fly from the building then do an experiment and see if you can nail a piece up properly and get it off without tearing (I only saw two pieces tear -a few broke- watching this dozens fo times. You bet they got there and cleaned up before the inpector or adjustor could look closely at it.......
AtALost Jan 14, 2014
So much for Toll brothers quality. Looks like they're using non-English speaking workers like everyone else. Sad when only one or two people on site can read blueprints or even care about building codes. Even more distressing to live in a nearby building that may have survived the winds only because the windows and doors provided some support. These 'upscale' condos may be worse than trailers when the next cat1 hurricane hits.
paultertell Jan 14, 2014
I read you article on this condo collapse. As an engineer retired from FEMA, I have investigated numerous failure from high winds. It seems like a lot of jumping to conclusions about the cause of this failure. I would note the following.
The wind speed at the site does not appear to be established--but based on the video showing felt paper on adjacent roofs--the wind speed at this site was probably significantly lower than the highest recorded wind speeds in the area.
Buildings under construction need to be properly braced and have a load path established for the loads under construction. Again it is not clear how great these loads actually were
If this failure had occurred during a workday, workers may have been killed or injured
From your article, it appears that a structural engineer is looking at the "undamaged" buildings--but not at the failure.
Often a building department will provide direction on how a failure is evaluated.
mafiamic Jan 13, 2014
Thought they were just going to leave it.
Thanks to the one who filmed it,for like every other attention getter this has gone "Viral"..That is the word that should be put on the most annoying word list and stop being used.
scubagirl2 Jan 13, 2014
I would expect them to say nothing less!
scubagirl2 Jan 13, 2014
probably some truth to what they are saying, but still for it to fall like that I wouldn't expect them to say anything different.....
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2015-01-14 14:37:58