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ConcernedNCarolinian Aug 23, 11:30 a.m.
Shooting animals to kill them quickly hasn't been around since the "beginning of time" ... it's only been around since guns were invented. And when people did that as the main method, that's because it was the best way at the time, not now. Further, gas chambers were the best way to extinguish animals at one point in time ... it no longer is the best way. If the dog waited days before being euthanized already, it could have waited until the vet came to the shelter to euthanize other animals.
What this comes down to is poor judgement, and breaking the code/law for this sort of thing.
BTW, if you read other sources, mainly from the shelter's statement, this was a basset mix and that could mean anything ... the dog probably had shorter legs so they said it was a basset hound. No one at the shelter has the REAL ability to properly identify breeds in dogs, it's a guessing game. So the whole "PIT BULL WITH A BASSET HOUND" argument is pretty irrelevant.
Good gift 88 Aug 22, 4:31 p.m.
Is it possible that working everyday in an environment where you see the consequences of neglect , abuse and human irresponsibility causes one to lose their judgement...... Even lose the sense of compassion for animals which they might have previously felt? Who, pray tell would put a Bassett in with a pit bull? Have you ever been to the shelter? As much as hey they seem to try, the place is usually overcrowded, ad the dogs are so stressed that they bark non-stop. That's enough stress to make them crazy and reduce he chances of becoming a family pet. Maybe more education for the care providers would be a good idea. Maybe more public responsibility to spay, neuter and care for what you've got would make a dent in he problem.
Love, from all my rescues.
zenonx6 Aug 22, 4:13 p.m.
If you do it right it's just as quick. Been around forever like the guy below said.
heard-it-all-before Aug 22, 1:10 p.m.
very sad story.
but hey, at least while you libs debate it to death and pass some more laws that require 800 phone calls all the way up to Congress to get approval to engage, the rest of us take solace in knowing the dog is no longer suffering in pain, died quick and is now in a much more peaceful place.
men shooting suffering animals has been around since the beginning of time. that is, until pharmaceutical companies, pet food giants, animal rights activists and control-freak governments teamed up to build this animal "healthcare" industry we see working so well today...
earthmama Aug 22, 12:54 p.m.
The thing about bites is that they are puncture wounds. Puncture wounds harbor bacteria and need to be kept open, sometimes via a drain sutured in place. If these puncture wounds close over with the bacteria inside, abscesses form and they are VERY painful. They are also very TREATABLE.
This Bassett may very well have been in pain and crying out in addition to mouthing his injured paw. There are some dogs who get vaccines, cry, whine and hyperfocus on their vaccine site...but an individual with some experience in animal health and welfare certainly would not over-react and shoot the dog.
kellypratz Aug 22, 12:34 p.m.
who the heck puts a pit bull with a bassett hound! that's like putting a mouse in a cat's cage don't you think?
bdu4dals2 Aug 22, 11:53 a.m.
OK, that is outside the guideline for sick or injured animals. What about the off duty cop that shot a German Shephard in the stomach 4 times, yes in the stomach, could not even deliver a humane kill shot, JUST because the dog was on his property. I would have stomped a mudhole in his backside and walked it dry! The dog made it home and the owners had to take it to the Vet to put him down.....no charges will be filed.....are you for real? I have neighbors that have dogs and they occasionally visit my yard, and yes sometimes leave calling cards, but I certainly don't shoot them. Sorry I got off track but I just saw this article on the news.
Sherlock Aug 22, 11:39 a.m.
Sheriffs in NC only worry about money and their party, law enforcement is a second job, when their is time. If Sheriffs were hire and not elected there would be big change.
Sherlock Aug 22, 11:37 a.m.
This is known as "After the barn door" yes?
beachbum1 Aug 22, 11:14 a.m.
WAY TOO many cowboys
mustangyts Aug 22, 10:58 a.m.
What was so shocking is that this was the "director"! If anyone should have known policy it was the director! Then to top it all off this sheriff says "it was a mistake"! The dogs "paw was injured"! It seems this county should take a look at this individual and their sheriff. Seems like a lot of mismanagement.
Lightfoot3 Aug 22, 10:45 a.m.
“I don't think the man did anything wrong.” – sweetlyght
I think it’s been pretty well established that he shot the dog onsite, which was against the rules, thus wrong. Plus it seems they haven’t prepared or have plans in place for when someone certified to administer the euthanasia drugs is not on site.
Lightfoot3 Aug 22, 10:39 a.m.
“they are not being reported correctly. Every story has two sides.” - eastwake98
So the dog was attacked and euthanized in the same day? Still, as a DIRECTOR, he has to follow the rules and make sure his staff follows the rules. If no one certified was available, what’s the plan when it needs to be done? As a DIRECTOR, he should have those plans in place.
dcarroll560 Aug 22, 10:16 a.m.
Sweetlyght, if you don't think anything wrong was done, why don't you shoot one of your dogs in the backyard next time they injure their paw. I am not a pet person either I just own 2 dogs that I care for. I would never do this with any animal period! I am not trying to be combative but there is nothing sweet or lyght about your comment.
sweetlyght Aug 22, 9:57 a.m.
Everytime I turn around I see laws popping up that make dog ownership more difficult, more expensive, and more intrusive. Adopting from the ASPCA means you're agreeing they have the right to visit your home, and even take the animal away, while leaving you on the hook for the full care of the animal. Rescue groups want home visits, your daily schedule, how much $$ you have available for vet costs. Most won't adopt pets to homes with very young children.
The easiest place to adopt from is a kill shelter, and I have done this twice. They won't give you a hard time at all, but there still are a couple set backs. 1, dogs adopted from high volume kill shelters can be sick. My first rescue had kennel cough, and it was about 500 after everything to get him healthy. 2. Shelter dogs can have personality problems. Both dogs I rescued from shelters had anxiety issues. My SPCA dog had more human interaction, and is more friendly than either of my shelter rescues.
dcarroll560 Aug 22, 9:56 a.m.
I really doubt that policies can be changed to stop this in the future. The policies were there in the first place. This is a sickening story, but I wasn't there to adopt the animal either. Didn't even know the dog existed. Still it seems harsh to kill a dog like that. Also it seems pretty cruel to do it within earshot of the other animals. The good work of the shelter has pretty much gone out the window in this case. It takes a lot of adoptions of pets to justify this action.
sweetlyght Aug 22, 9:48 a.m.
I don't think the man did anything wrong. I don't see how shooting the animal is too much different than giving it a shot. Both kill the animal in an attempt to quickly end suffering, one is more messy.
I own and love my dogs, but pet people make me crazy. It's a balacing act. On one end, Pets are wonderful additions to our lives, on another end, there are always going to be strays and strays need to be either adopted or put down. All over the world there are homeless dogs, and in some areas of the world they are seen a dangerous nuisance. One of the big reasons we don't see them as such is because stray animals are taken to shelters who are kind enough to hold them to be found, or adopted for a time, or - if they have to, put them down.
btneast Aug 22, 9:45 a.m.
Do you think you cause less suffering if you shoot and it doesn't kill instantly.. The you need to shoot again.. Doesn't make any sense.
A bullet in the head kills instantly. I think he knew what he was doing.
rcjapex Aug 22, 9:09 a.m.
I think a difficult decision had to be made quicly, and it was carried out efficiently. Too bad about the fellow's job.
justcommonsense Aug 22, 8:46 a.m.
ppurpleroses - yes, there were euthanasia materials on site. However, if you bother to read the story in it's entirety, you will see that there was NO ONE on site that was CERTIFIED to administer the injections. You will also see that not all staffers at shelters are certified at this time. That is going to be rectified. As to the hurt paw, were any of us there to see how badly it was hurt? No.
marie2443 Aug 22, 8:40 a.m.
Piecing together the information from the articles and what volunteers have posted in comments it seems an employee put the basset hound in with the pit bull after being told not to and was subsequently fired. The dog’s injuries turned out to be worse than was originally thought and Mr. Bartholomew was faced with a difficult decision. Not all Franklin County animal officers are certified to euthanize and none were on duty. Rather than making the animal suffer for hours until someone came on duty he used the .22 rifle. He turned himself in afterwards. He did this as the director rather than asking an employee to face disciplinary action.
Rural county shelters do not have funds like counties such as Wake. I think those of you calling for Mr. Bartholomew’s head need to wake up and face the realities of life. If this incident upsets you that much and you don’t want rural shelters faced with such difficult decisions then open up your wallet and donate to a rural shelter!
smurfette Aug 22, 8:32 a.m.
A couple of years ago I met a man who worked at the Granville County shelter who told me their shelter shot animals with firearms. Not sure if they still do so today.
mernrn2 Aug 21, 7:45 p.m.
This is insane and this person should be fired and never allowed to care for animals again. How about some vet care for the dog?? A hurt paw is enough of a reason to kill the dog? This man is one ignorant person. I think he is either sadist or just didn't want to deal with the situation. Either way, he needs to be fired immediately.
ppurpleroses Aug 21, 7:39 p.m.
the problem with this is that there were euthanasia materials at the site and clearly this man needs to be fired if only for the lack of empathy the dog was chewing on an injury when my dog chews on herself I actually look to see what she is chewing on so no there is no excuse for this professional lack of empathy, compassion and competence.
sunshineponderosa Aug 21, 7:03 p.m.
Yes i believe in a dog is suffering to put it down, but let a vet take a look at it before shooting it. One person said something about"There is more to it than just grabbing a prefilled needle and injecting the animal. If you don't know what you are doing, you will cause more suffering. Do you think you cause less suffering if you shoot and it doesn't kill instantly.. The you need to shoot again.. Doesn't make any sense.
spunkyisbackagain Aug 21, 6:51 p.m.
I fully believe that euthanasia should be used in certain cases, but I haven't read anywhere that the dog's condition merited it. I have read ". A couple of days later, Bartholomew said, he realized the dog was chewing on his injured paw and appeared to be in severe pain, so he shot him." Was it possible that the dog could have been saved??
I've also had to have animals put to sleep the "old fashioned way" sans a vet. It's a difficult thing to do, but you have to put the animal's needs first. My complaint in this case is that I'm not sure that the animal couldn't have been treated as opposed to dying.
reconcorpsman Aug 21, 6:34 p.m.
several years on patrol, I am quick and easy to put two rounds in a hurt/suffering animal (doe/buck/dog/cat etc), but policy is policy. should not take much to resolve this issue. It's a trip to hear how hard evidently euthanasia can be for some folks! godspeed!
nosmo_king58 Aug 21, 6:33 p.m.
Pit Bulls as a breed are fine to put with other dogs, just as any other breed is. If possible, shelters test to see if dogs will get along, regardless of breed. Spend sometime with pit bulls to learn about them (volunteer at a shelter/rescue !), not listen to the misinformation in the media.
Justic4All Aug 21, 6:30 p.m.
And the killer Pit Bull is still alive? Are they going to feed it more hapless dogs or will it be a cat this time?
justcommonsense Aug 21, 6:30 p.m.
Wow, just wow... I'm amazed at the number of armchair experts posting here today. None of you nor myself were there to see how much damage had been done not only by the pit, but by the bassett himself in chewing on his own leg.
Mr. Bartholomew had to make a decision. There was no one on the premises at the time who was certified to euthanize via injection. There is more to it than just grabbing a prefilled needle and injecting the animal. If you don't know what you are doing, you will cause more suffering.
We've had to put down a few of our own dogs over the years and yes, it was done the old fashioned way. Vets want anywhere from 100-300 dollars to euthanize a sick/injured/dying pet that is suffering.
and to jscott13 - guns at a county facility. Ummm...yes, this is an animal shelter. You don't know when you will find yourself dealing with an excessively aggressive or sick (rabid)animal and need to quickly act. Besides, the Sheriff's office and courthouse are county facilities.
spunkyisbackagain Aug 21, 6:18 p.m.
Relic, I totally understand your point of view on not putting the pit with a basset hound, but I have quite a few friends in the rescue business who say that this is standard in overcrowded shelters. :( I don't like it but I guess it's the way things are done.
Rebelyell55 Aug 21, 6:06 p.m.
One last thougth, I'm betting those who reprimand him has never ever had to put and animal down. Always had someone else to do it. I know we got folks in position in goverment that don't have an ounce of common sense, but it seem there are more of them in certain places in goverment management.
jscott13 Aug 21, 6:06 p.m.
oldrebel...have you ever heard of a VET. That's where you take an injured animal. And why are guns allowed at any county facility. I don't think so!!
lawdawg302 Aug 21, 6:05 p.m.
For all of those who know how to run a animal shelter better than the people currently there, volunteer opportunities exist to prove it.
rbc18 Aug 21, 6:04 p.m.
This the society in which we now live. We treat children and animals like dirt.
Rebelyell55 Aug 21, 6:03 p.m.
Ain't got too bright of a bulb, to put a basset in with a pit, but not not what I'm here to comment on. I think the law needs to be change. If the dog was in pain, suffering and going to be put down, why not a bullet? Who's to say that any worse than waht the dog would of gone through for the next 8 hours or even 24 hours.
timtooltime777 Aug 21, 6:03 p.m.
The only time animal control responds to stray dogs is only if the dog is or has mauled you !
SingleLensReflex.SLR Aug 21, 5:59 p.m.
i don't know much of anything about dogs but I bet any normal 10yo wouldn't put a basset hound in with a pit bull.
DianeNC Aug 21, 5:56 p.m.
Maybe the Franklin County shelter officials should spend more time on finding ways to get the animals in their shelter fostered or adopted, as opposed to "...working to get all animal officers certified as euthanasia technicians." Just saying...
Its me again Aug 21, 5:56 p.m.
just too PC a world now wish i had a time machine
oldrebel Aug 21, 5:53 p.m.
Sounds like he did the animal an act of kindness. The "Do Gooders" who would castigate him ought to take their turn in the shelter, feeding, cleaning and having the heartache of watching animals dispatched by "approved methods." Dead is dead. Bartholomew was doing his best at the time to stop the suffering. What a shame to be held up to public ridicule and censure for doing what needed to be done. And worse to be held up to public ridicule and censure by those who don't stoop to clean up the poooop, feed those animals they claim to care about and look away with the disagreeable duty comes to euthanize the unluckies.
Relic Aug 21, 5:52 p.m.
@spunkyisbackagain - Even when a shelter is crowded you don't double up dogs that are as different as a pit and a basset. Apparently the folks at the Franklin shelter need a lot more training than just being able to properly euthanize. I'm right there with you on your point A and point B though.
Relic Aug 21, 5:50 p.m.
@jrfergerson - Good point. Most shelters don't put dogs of different breeds in the same kennel even when they're overflowing or unless the dogs were brought in together. No excuse anywhere on this one. I've been looking for another basset myself to adopt but apparently Franklin County does a poor job of promoting the animals up for adoption at their shelter. I know that groups in that area in Vance and Granville do a very good job of trying to get animals from the shelter adopted.
labs Aug 21, 5:48 p.m.
The people who probably don't see this need to spay and neuter their pets to keep poor basset hounds out of the dog shelter where they won't be an inconvenience to anyone else. This goes on without anyone ever knowing or caring.
Relic Aug 21, 5:47 p.m.
Yeah... I've seen those poor dogs that you could tell were suffering because they were chewing on an injured body part... Wait...actually when I saw that I took the dog to a vet. Self-righteous has nothing to do with it. He didn't follow procedures and there is no explanation as to why the shelter did not seek vet aid for the animal or at least call a rescue group to take the animal to a vet which even some of the poorest shelters in the state do. A dog "chewing it's paw" is not a reason to shoot it. If the dog was severely injured and having seizures, yes. If the dog was so obviously injured that it could not survive, yes. "Chewing on it's paw"? Nope. Don't wash.
spunkyisbackagain Aug 21, 5:43 p.m.
jrfergerson, when the shelter is overcrowded, dogs have to double up. I'm guessing that the pit would not show aggression against a basset hound, but either way: A.) A more thorough examination of both dogs should have been done after the fight and B.) a vet should have made the call to euthanize or treat.
jrfergerson Aug 21, 5:25 p.m.
WHO put the basset hound and a pit bull in the same cage is what bothers me more than the man shooting the injured dog. Is it customary actions of those attendants to put two different species of dogs on a cage together at this shelter?
grayboomerang Aug 21, 5:17 p.m.
Honestly, I don't blame him...I blame the cruel people who allow their dogs to end up in a shelter....those are the ones who deserve blame.
Luv2Camp Aug 21, 5:13 p.m.
I don't know Taylor. America1st does. His description of Taylor is enough for me.
The self-righteous on this board need to back off. The dog was hurt. Taylor did the right thing. End of story.
luvstoQ Aug 21, 5:13 p.m.
America1st, I agree with you, some people are just ignorant. It was a one time thing anyway because of the circumstances. They usually shoot horses when they break a leg, etc. It is a humane way to end suffering of animals.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03