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  • Sherlock Jul 24, 5:31 p.m.

    Free money

  • GingerTea Jul 24, 10:43 a.m.

    Not every state employee under investigation is sent home with paid leave. Probably the majority are sent to other locations and do work while the investigation is going on. Since the Department of Public Safety umbrellas so many agencies, my question would be, which agencies utilize the unpaid leave? Think about it.

  • editor8 Jul 24, 10:33 a.m.

    Judging from comments here, the notion of establishing proof of wrongdoing is not in the equation. Picking up trash? This is like saying a person accused of a crime, let's say assault, should go wash police cars and cut grass in the park until his or her court date rolls around and guilt or innocence is determined. Some people leave their Thinking Caps on the peg, don't they?

  • karrgal77 Jul 24, 10:19 a.m.

    so you would punish state employees and put them to work picking up garbage like prisoners? Have you ever done litter clean-up? I have, and its pretty demanding work that a full day would be a lot for someone who has been desk bound for their career. I am not against re-assigning, but in something that was compirable to their skill set.

  • Mo Blues Jul 24, 9:50 a.m.

    Since these are state employees under investigation, there's nothing wrong or "regressive" with simply reassigning them to a road clean-up crew awaiting the results. Instead of a paid vacation, have them earn their state paycheck.

    Have them show up at the garage by 8:00am, give them a reflective vest plus a stick with a nail on the end and have them pick up trash along I-440 each day until 5:00pm. They're out of the way of the investigation, and they can improve their health and lose weight at the same time! Plus, they're earning their taxpayer-funded salary.

    Win-win.

  • joeBob Jul 24, 9:16 a.m.

    An audit came out years ago showing how the state could improve it's finances if could just quit having to pay lawsuit claims on state employees who either were suing the state or were being sued because they had injured or killed someone while on the job. The state did nothing with that information. They should vendor out and subcontract every position they can to avoid the waste of money revealed in this article as well to defer the liability. It's not complicated.

  • saywhat37 Jul 24, 9:10 a.m.

    That's a tough one. I'm sure there are those who didn't do anything and deserve to keep getting their paychecks and there are those who definitely need firing and lose that paycheck immediately but you have to treat both the same until its investigated. If not, that person who really did nothing wrong will sue the state and end up getting more than just their paycheck. I'm sure McCrory would insist on getting his if he was being investigated!

  • dollibug Jul 24, 8:20 a.m.

    There are many *ISSUES* which the NC General Assembly needs to address....it is sad now that money is *TIGHT* and they are trying to figure out how to *REDUCE SPENDING*....when things were better they should have been *saving for a rainy day, instead of finding ways to spend the surplus. And to think that some government people have BIG salaries while others are being reduced....or cut off completely. People with NO JOBS now have little or nothing to depend upon to live. Something is NOT QUITE RIGHT WITH THIS PICTURE.

  • BubbaDuke Jul 24, 8:15 a.m.

    This has been the policy for years. It's not something McCrory instituted.

  • albegadeep Jul 24, 8:12 a.m.

    "More than half the workers put on paid leave were reinstated with no demotion or suspensions." In other words, they were accused but found innocent. So YES, they get paid while they're being investigated!

  • ctya Jul 23, 6:50 p.m.

    I have worked for the State for 19 years 2 of them as a temp and have never seen or heard such a thing. I have seen people put on no more than 3 days and most of the time they don't return.

  • RKBA Jul 23, 6:33 p.m.

    "And to think, the State took away my unemployment payments."

    No, they just provided a finite end to them.

    There's a huge difference.

  • kdawg Jul 23, 6:05 p.m.

    While arguably bureaucratic and slow, this process no doubt pales in comparison to all of the political appointees the governor is allowed to hire with suspect qualifications, and the recent push by the GOP to increase the number of gubernatorial political appointees from 400 to 1500 (http://www.wral.com/house-passes-bill-rewriting-rules-for-state-workers-/12449941/). But no, let's continue to point out how detrimental a small number of state employees are to the taxpayer, you know those people who haven't had a decent raise in eight years, and two more years by the emerging state budget. If you want to save some real money, start with our puppet Governor for a change.

  • ayby0611 Jul 23, 5:30 p.m.

    And to think, the State took away my unemployment payments.

  • Hokies94 Jul 23, 5:01 p.m.

    What a total waste of our money. The past administration as well as the present should be ashamed. Poor leadrship. I wonder what other States do in these situations?

  • computer trainer Jul 23, 4:58 p.m.

    Let's remember that this has been going on for YEARS!! It did not just start in January!

  • ligonmaterial23 Jul 23, 4:44 p.m.

    I know first hand , right now my wife is at home worried sick over her job over a minor infraction from FOUR YEARS AGO but is getting her normal pay check while watching kids and tv , its been almost 4 weeks now . 10 days my rear end

  • cactus95 Jul 23, 4:40 p.m.

    Doesn't say much for the State's hiring guidelines...however, if you know a state worker...you probably already knew that! Before you blast me..ask yourself...have your ever said "that's not my job"..(to do that)...if you haven't, then blast me. If you have, is a little extra effort gonna kill you? Try being self employed...it's all my job!

  • aightCPA Jul 23, 4:23 p.m.

    How about instead of send them home with pay they send them somewhere to help consultants and contractors do their jobs. i.e. paper to electronic conversion. Make those employees input that data into the system. Something! Make them do anything that they pay other people to do.

  • eoglane Jul 23, 4:17 p.m.

    Even counties when they send someone home under investigation they to do so with pay.

  • ripetomatoes Jul 23, 4:15 p.m.

    "State pays thousands to employees on leave"

    And it pays a lot to people who watch others do the work...

  • SisterChristian Jul 23, 3:39 p.m.

    Spends this money yet does not even allow unemployment for people that have been paying taxes in NC for generations? SICK.

  • xwalk2 Jul 23, 3:36 p.m.

    "There is MANY State Employees that are not paid what they should be and MANY that are paid high figures to do much of anything."
    -vtk7693
    You are spot on. Thanks you for speaking the truth. Let's hope that in the next year our Governor will turn to people like yourself to remedy this misuse of power for the last 40 years at the state government and teacher's and local government employee level. If only an investigation with teeth existed that honestly listened to hard working employees and wasn't slanted to favor management, then and only then would govt employees have a recourse to the injustice done to new and old timer govt officials who have given so much and received nothing but disdain by their fellow citizens and political hacks who have paid nothing more than political lip service to state employees. c2

  • Offshore Jul 23, 2:51 p.m.

    My question is, just how many people is the state paying to sit at home while their jobs hang in the balance? Is the # so high that it's news worthy? If the # is that high, how was it allowed to get so high and why aren't the cases being resolved. Unless of course the people investingating were also put on leave for bad behaviour, then it just makes sense and the taxpayer is scrooged.

  • rachel Jul 23, 2:30 p.m.

    camron28551-I doubt anyone would want to be sent home with no money for false allegations-however-paying someone to sit home allows two things- allegations to be made too easily-not paying someone would make a boss think real seriously about sending someone home(what is this grade school?)-because they could be sued if the allegations were unfounded and it would make employees think twice about pushing the envelope, because they could be sent home and investigated without pay- the current system has no checks and balances in it-the investigation can drag on because there is no push to expedite it-everyone is sitting pretty and has plenty of time in the current pay as you sit system

  • HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Jul 23, 2:28 p.m.

    @scubagirl, you should have saved that idea for fairyland. I guess you think we should jail everyone ACCUSED of a crime and speed up the trials so the spend the shortest amount of time in prison if they actually did no wrong too? It only takes 30 days late on an obligation to start trashing your credit and years to get past. But that would be okay with you as long as we only trash it a little and keep you unable to buy food and housing for a month huh?

  • rachel Jul 23, 2:25 p.m.

    If I am not mistaken, when people are arrested for major crimes,but have not yet gone to trial, they are often fired from their jobs. No one pays them while we all wait for the verdict. I think you may remove someone from their spot while you investigate, but if you intend to keep paying them, they need to be assigned to desk duty or kitchen duty or some harmless function while the case is investigated. Paying someone for nothing is like mini golden parachutes- its simply a waste of taxpayer money.

  • vtk7693 Jul 23, 2:22 p.m.

    39 days of leave and made $21,493! That's not the employee's problem, that the State's problem. It all depends on who you are and who you know. There is MANY State Employees that are not paid what they should be and MANY that are paid high figures to do much of anything.

  • WralCensorsAreBias Jul 23, 2:15 p.m.

    wral once again trying to drum up some scoop against the side they loathe.

    and once again nada, nothing, waste of time and no one is watching or reading about it because we don't care about internal driven media investigations.

    especially from a clearly left leaning media group.

  • Minarchist Jul 23, 2:12 p.m.

    Obviously you've watched WAY TOO MANY science fiction movies and know very little about how this works!
    trueblue0100
    July 23, 2013 1:32 p.m.
    Report abuse

    Nope. WAYYY too much work in the private sector. I dont watch TV. Thats your first error. TV is the destruction of human intelligence.

  • kenshi Jul 23, 2:08 p.m.

    A lot of these comments are ridiculous. what is the confusion here? People should not have to go without pay pending an investigation. The State policy is correct.

  • tayled Jul 23, 1:54 p.m.

    If we who are in the private sector were to act that way, we would probably be4 immediately fired anyway. But the idea that someone can sit back and take it easy while they are under investigation really galls me. Simply do this, if they are found innocent, restore them with back pay. If guilty, well, sayonara. That's what would happen to most of us

  • Scubagirl Jul 23, 1:48 p.m.

    Here's an idea. Hold their pay until the investigation is OVER. Then, if found innocent pay back pay. If found guilty no pay, no job....seems easy enough. Of course the investigation would have to be done promptly so that potential damage to soon-to-be-found innocents would be minimized.

  • camron28551 Jul 23, 1:45 p.m.

    These comments are funny. I doubt ANYONE would like to be sent home with no money for an allegation that ends up being unfounded.

  • trueblue0100 Jul 23, 1:44 p.m.

    When they are accused they should be placed on admin leave with pay. If it is determined they violated the rules/laws then when terminated they should have to repay 100% of the pay given during the admin leave - and forfeit any retirement contributed by the state/city/county. These funds should be collected as a tax, so they cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. If not repaid within a reasonable they should be charged with a felony of obtaining property by false pretenses and sent to prison. If they voluntarily quit while under investigation it should be considered they were terminated for cause and they should have to repay all the admin leave pay.......Tax Man

    Wow, you gave this a lot of thought......NOT! There's a reason it's called investigatory leave "with pay".

  • brassy Jul 23, 1:40 p.m.

    So we cut unemployment, but it's okay to pay state employees to sit home doing nothing? Unbelievable.

  • SisterChristian Jul 23, 1:37 p.m.

    North Carolina has really become politically corrupt. Where are the jobs for the unemployed? Everybody is doing nothing.

  • trueblue0100 Jul 23, 1:37 p.m.

    Some investigation naturally take more time than others as the circumstances are vastly different. Hence, they don't ALL take the same amount of time to investigate. Just ONE error in ONE case could cost the State $1.7 million all by itself.

  • Tax Man Jul 23, 1:35 p.m.

    When they are accused they should be placed on admin leave with pay. If it is determined they violated the rules/laws then when terminated they should have to repay 100% of the pay given during the admin leave - and forfeit any retirement contributed by the state/city/county. These funds should be collected as a tax, so they cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. If not repaid within a reasonable they should be charged with a felony of obtaining property by false pretenses and sent to prison. If they voluntarily quit while under investigation it should be considered they were terminated for cause and they should have to repay all the admin leave pay.

  • trueblue0100 Jul 23, 1:32 p.m.

    They can staple papers at home. They can do SOMETHING while being investigated. I bet some are inside jobs where a "paid leave" was set up for a nice vacation with a little kick back.
    AL-CIA-DUH

    Obviously you've watched WAY TOO MANY science fiction movies and know very little about how this works!

  • free2bme Jul 23, 1:29 p.m.

    Easy guys........we can only fix so many liberal policies at a time. Remember, decades of legislation and policies screwed up by the Dems. Don't worry though,we'll get it all straightened out eventually. ncbearman

    You have no clue if you think this GA can straighten out anything as well if you think this policy is something that should be straightened out. Such an indication of the backwards thinking we have in the NC Legislature now. Due process read about it.

  • NotUrTypicalAmerican Jul 23, 1:25 p.m.

    "When employees face allegations of harassment, misuse of state property, poor job performance or other issues, state leaders say sending them home with pay makes sense because there’s less interference with investigations."

    Yeah, right...

    They're afraid of potential lawsuits. I know a guy who works in my building who is a depressed drunk, has major financial problems and is a major potential security risk, but he still has a job because of his superiors afraid of canning him due to being too scared. Unbelievable.

  • free2bme Jul 23, 1:24 p.m.

    I've worked at some companies where just an allegation of misconduct was sufficient to be shown the door... on the same day!
    Time for govt employees to be treated the same as private sector folks. mep

    That may be the case at your place of employment but that does not make it the right thing to do. The amount of money spent out paid to those on leave is minut compared to the overall budget. If they are looking for big waste in the budget, this is definitely not worth mentioning.

  • BlueDevils00 Jul 23, 1:21 p.m.

    I wonder how many of these people worked in the UNC athletic/academic fields during the never-ending investigations????? People like Butch Davis made millions per year. Didn't they also pay him hundreds of thousands after the fired him? Disgraceful.

  • Chemist18 Jul 23, 1:01 p.m.

    If the investigation takes longer than 30 days, stop paying the investigator. That should speed things up.
    claytontarheel

    I love this suggestion! Can we use this same principle when it comes to politicians?

  • Minarchist Jul 23, 12:57 p.m.

    They can staple papers at home. They can do SOMETHING while being investigated. I bet some are inside jobs where a "paid leave" was set up for a nice vacation with a little kick back.

  • itsnotmeiswear Jul 23, 12:57 p.m.

    If they are found guilty and terminated, the payments made during leave should be used to reduce any accrued vacation. Investigative leave should be limited to 30 days in all cases. If the investigation takes longer than 30 days, stop paying the investigator. That should speed things up.

  • Chemist18 Jul 23, 12:56 p.m.

    In every thread we get to read government slackers whining about no raises in seven years. I am in the private sector, and my income has decreased nearly 40% in the same time period - mostly due to the inane policies of the politicians YOU (and I) elected.

    Hey, join me in the private sector - you know - at one of those GREEDY corporations where I sip champagne and fly in a private jet every day.
    Mo Blues

    I think lumping all state working into a single category is going a bit far. You do however make a good point. Many of us have lost significant ground. Myself, my income is back to where it was in 2005 as well as a loss of ALL benefits.

  • aspenstreet1717 Jul 23, 12:55 p.m.

    Another day more waste by NC government.

  • Zaknow Jul 23, 12:46 p.m.

    This is not a new issue. Why bring it up at this time? You associate this with McCrory but this has followed numerious administrations. Perdue on the other hand hid her cronies in every state agency paying them huge salaries to basically do nothing. Did you investigate that? Wrong party!The former secretary of DOT under Perdue spent loads on expenses in the name of the state. Did you investigate that? I don't think so.

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