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  • read_a_little Jun 26, 7:55 p.m.

    The GOP kicks the defenseless while their down. Medicaid, unemployment benefits, medicare, health care, on and on. The real issue is character, leadership, and a vision for the future. This is a future I don't want and neither do many. The message is clear, if you have money you can buy influence and change the direction of law and policy. This is not democracy.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 7:56 p.m.

    @ junk
    That is no solution, just people following along with the "red" team blindly...

  • junkmail5 Jun 21, 7:49 p.m.

    It was the Democratically controlled state that made the mistake of lowering what the state charges companies for unemployment and made us borrow from the feds.- FairPLay

    you're RIGHT.

    It was.

    But explain how the solution to what the Dems did wrong should be to make UNEMPLOYED people pay it back- instead of making the employers who got the artificially low payments for years pay it back?

  • junkmail5 Jun 21, 7:48 p.m.

    "The GOP now wants to change it to cut taxes for the richest 5% "and RAISE them for everyone else."

    This is patently false -djhartm

    No, it's not.

    It's math.

    Try it sometime.

    Everyone making less than $169,00, which is 95% of everyone in NC, will pay MORE under the new tax system.

    The 5% richest pay less.

    Seriously, math, it's useful stuff!

    Also amusing is your assertion that employers were to blame as well.- djharm

    Again- math... they underpaid into the fund for YEARS.

    That's why the fund needed to borrow to cover benefits.

    So instead of making THEM pay it back, the GOP moved the payments to the unemployed.

    Because to heck with anyone who isn't rich is basically their motto.

    Then found out that instead of being laid off they could get unemployment checks while they worked if they took one week off every month! And he made more money! Really??
    saywhat37

    No, not really, since that's not even possible.

    Please stop making stuff up folks.

  • junkmail5 Jun 21, 7:45 p.m.

    Well if Obama did not take his $100,000 tax paid vacation to Africa and did not pay the IRS a $300 million bonus there would be more money for benefits!

    what if you didn't just make up numbers?

    It's 70 for the IRS... and the Obamas, like ALL presidents, pay their own personal expenses on vacation... (and he's taken vastly less of it than Bush did).

    Nobody is taking away unemployment benefits. They are simply returning them to the standard after a period of extensions-Red Dragon

    Utterly false.

    The extended benefits are FEDERAL.

    Those are going away entirely thanks to the GOP.

    The STATE benefit of 26 weeks, the "standard" is ALSO being drastically cut by the GOP- down to 12-20 weeks instead of 26, and reduced by about 30% in payment amount.

  • jdupree Jun 21, 7:26 p.m.

    Well if Obama did not take his $100,000 tax paid vacation to Africa and did not pay the IRS a $300 million bonus there would be more money for benefits!

  • rexchex Jun 21, 7:25 p.m.


    Wealth: For the few
    Prestige: For the wealthy
    Power: Gone from your average American.

    Now get back to work on the line. Those burgers are not going to cook themselves.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 7:24 p.m.

    @ jd
    I will disagree, using an much supporting information for my opinion as you have provided for your own...0...

  • geosol Jun 21, 7:10 p.m.

    Great picture of CarpetBagger Bob for this story! A perfect example of today's REPUBLICAN party that makes money off of giving more tax breaks to their rich buddies while making the rest of us PAY MORE!

  • geosol Jun 21, 7:06 p.m.

    Poor millionaires! They have it so bad these days. But it's OK, they have the REPUBLICANS to give them even more tax breaks while they stick it to the rest of us. Sorry if your right wing boss decided to make more money by shipping your job overseas. You should have been smart enough to have been born rich like them. Thanks wingers!!!

  • wraluser Jun 21, 7:03 p.m.

    @ Danny
    Do you feel it or do you know it? Big difference.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 7:02 p.m.

    @ affirm

    Apparently you seemed to have missed the last 80 years of legislation (think 1933)... Helping people to help themselves is as American as it gets... Your assessment sounds like GOP propaganda to fool the weak...

  • affirmativediversity Jun 21, 6:38 p.m.

    "Actually the UI is owed, by law, to those who qualify... while looking for a job. Feel free to hand over one of yours if it disturbing to you that others are not a fortunate as yourself to have a (or 3) job and are being kept afloat by UI..."

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    This is only true of the first 26 weeks...anything after that was and is TEMPORARY in nature and is "owed" to no one!

  • wraluser Jun 21, 6:09 p.m.

    @ Billy

    "deadbeats" ? Really? Corporate downsizing or small business failures create deadbeats? wow... You think all unemployed people worked "less hard" then you. You seem to be as your name would imply...

    BTW... If you need 2 PT jobs to supplement your "career" you might need another career... Just saying...

  • silkesmom Jun 21, 6:08 p.m.

    I volunteer at a local food bank. The most common sentiment I hear after "thank you" is, "i never thought this would happen to me."

    Try looking for a job as a 40, 50 or 60 something year old and see how easy that is.

    To paint "those people" as lazy and unmotivated, really says more about the person doing the painting than anyone else.

    Try doing some volunteer work and getting in touch with the have nots. You will find they are a lot like you and me and we are lucky not to have be a have not.

    Cheers.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 6:04 p.m.

    @ Billy

    I hope the employment status of everyone you know is secure, and if not, I hope they don't read your post... :) You will be lonely...

  • Billy the Kid Jun 21, 5:59 p.m.

    "Actually the UI is owed, by law, to those who qualify... while looking for a job. Feel free to hand over one of yours if it disturbing to you that others are not a fortunate as yourself to have a (or 3) job and are being kept afloat by UI..."

    Just because the law says you qualify doesn't mean the rest of us are in debt to deadbeats. I worked for my career and two part time jobs on the side. I don't feel free to hand out anything.

  • wildervb Jun 21, 5:57 p.m.

    Red Dragon, the extensions were passed after the economic meltdown of 2008, the economy is still recovering from that, cutting people off early is going to hurt them, and hurt our State economy, theirs no logical reason to do it.
    The major cuts to benefits was another choice that will hurt workers who were recently (or soon to be) laid off workers.

  • Billy the Kid Jun 21, 5:57 p.m.

    "My empathy bucket was emptied about 16 trillion taxpayer dollar give aways ago!" AMEN!

    Double Amen. Great comment!

  • wraluser Jun 21, 5:56 p.m.

    @ Red

    ... and the great recession was not supposed to happen either, but here we are...

  • wraluser Jun 21, 5:55 p.m.

    @eng and affirm

    Even though the tax payer dollars were for this exact thing (among others...) To protect the citizens of NC and the Nation in times of economic hardship. Government doing what government is supposed to do is not wrong. Don't forget that... What the GOP legislature is doing is not protecting its citizens and will be reflected in the ballot box...

  • Confucius say Jun 21, 5:49 p.m.

    Nobody is taking away unemployment benefits. They are simply returning them to the standard after a period of extensions to help out those who lost their jobs. What some see as being taken away was never supposed to be there in the first place. But I don't hear any praise for the numerous extensions that many received.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 5:48 p.m.

    @rat

    They are not heartless, they just don't care.

    They also think that removing $20M/week out of the LOCAL economy is helpful for some reason... Want to see more small businesses fail and create more unemployed, this is the way to do it...

  • wildervb Jun 21, 5:45 p.m.

    NC stands alone as the only State to end extended benefits early, not only will those who are losing benefits suffer, but communities and small businesses will suffer as well.
    Unemployment benefits help people who've worked their whole lives to stay on their feet, make their payments and perhaps buy enough time to relocate.
    The severe cuts in benefits will also hurt recently unemployed people, and with the other budget cuts and rejection of Medicaid expansion we can expect a new wave of unemployed citizens right here in NC.

  • ratracehwy64 Jun 21, 5:35 p.m.

    First time unemployed after 25 years. Having to go back and retrain to get decent work again, The jobs just are NOT out here, even with college degrees. The Governor and Republicans have been very nasty spirited in their approach and the manner in which they are doing things. Hard to believe that some of these people go to church, embarrassing. I guess the end justifies the means. Many fellow Christians and true Republicans are going to vote these people out. They have come across as heartless despots on many, many issues.

  • AliceBToklas Jun 21, 5:08 p.m.

    It's very entertaining to read the comments of the clueless here. I seriously doubt many have ever been laid off or really out of work.

    I was laid off past the age of 50 and I can tell you it is no vacation. I was fortunate (very) to find temporary/part time work to get by but I have to emphasize how lucky I was. My next door neighbor was not so lucky and had to depend on unemployment. He spent a couple of years working at Lowe's but finally a *real* job again.

    Please try to be more empathetic for those less fortunate than you.

  • PanthersFan45 Jun 21, 5:00 p.m.

    I can understand limiting the number of weeks or number of extensions for Unemployment pay, but cutting the amount per week right to the bone is plain mean spirited. I am not unemployed and my job is very safe but I didn't see anything wrong with the system as far as U/E compensation goes. I know a few unemployed people who lost their job through ABSOLUTELY no fault of their own and they are very smart people and want to work. The amount being pad out was not a lot to begin with and they are being forced to live on a smaller amount while they've lost health care coverage as well. I'm a registered UNA voter and I voted for many Republicans on the state level, but I find myself having doubts with those votes due to some of the extreme measures they are pushing through now. I think The state GOP needs to be careful or they will lose power just as fast as they gained it.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:53 p.m.

    @AL

    One at a time...
    With or without personal responsibility people are going to lose jobs and not be able to find jobs in a timely manner in economic conditions such as the last 5 years. Period. No amount of "monetary policy" understanding is going to pay the bills while unemployed.

    "WRALUSER....and why did we have the largest economic recession? Keynesianism"
    Well, this is really for a different topic (and completely incorrect).

  • CaryEngineer Jun 21, 4:47 p.m.

    caryzoo..."caryengineer...stop"
    Huh?? Did you even read my post?
    My expectation is to have access to the 26 weeks the system was designed for. Not the 12 weeks at reduced pay left as crumbs after the system was decimated by extensions.

    I've always lived well within my means (in bad times and good), I'll be fine for an extended period (even when I don't receive a any of the money I've entrusted to our bureaucracy). That money appears to have already been handed out to support those that don't live within their means.

  • goldenosprey Jun 21, 4:46 p.m.

    "
    Also amusing is your assertion that employers were to blame as well. As a previous small business owner, I can tell you firsthand, the taxes the government imposes are stifling and detrimental to economic growth." djhartm

    As a former small business owner I can tell you gov regs were sometimes a pain, but what was really stifling was the disasterous effects of supply-side economics and lack of regulation of Wall Street.

  • goldenosprey Jun 21, 4:41 p.m.

    "that's odd. several folks I know who have taken used over the past few years claimed to receive just as much if not more than what they were making when they actually had to work.

    go ahead call me a liar as usual, I know that's whats coming." lrfarms27572

    This is a tiresome myth.

    Objectively, if you want to figure out what your benefits are should your job creator pull the plug tomorrow:

    https://www.ncesc1.com/individual/EstimateBenefits/ESTBenefitsMain.asp

    Hint: Try to get fired before June 30. Claims filed after are worth a lot less to many.

    It is true the base of employers paying in is broadened and those experience rated employers will usually pay a bit more. The imbalance is that the fund is low almost completely because of employers. Because they separated employees for no fault and because in the 90s the bidness community lobbied the GA to drop the taxes (yes it was dems who allowed this.
    The jobless bear most of the cost, little of the culpability.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:36 p.m.

    @ Blue

    I have no idea why extended benefits might be needed after just now starting to sputter out of "the great recession" since 2008.

  • Minarchist Jun 21, 4:34 p.m.

    WRALUSER....and why did we have the largest economic recession? Keynesianism. How do you print money on interest from a private bank (Federal Reserve) and create wealth?

  • Minarchist Jun 21, 4:32 p.m.

    @ AL What has happened was the largest global economic downturn since the Great Depression. Up to speed now...?
    wraluser
    June 21, 2013 4:14 p.m.
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    What does that have to do with personal responsibility? People should stop watching American Idol and figure out what the dollar is and how it gets its vaule. 98% of this country is clueless about monetary policy so they fall hard in recessions. I didnt. If I did Id hunt for food not ask you to feed me.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:29 p.m.

    @ fair
    So... because it was the democrats mistake it is fine to keep making mistakes now? Why would party affiliation make any difference to terrible decision making?

  • Sarge Jun 21, 4:28 p.m.

    I feel sorry for those who want to work but can't find jobs. Maybe they can get the President away from the golf course long enough to concentrate on his job of providing this country with policies to encourage work and job creation and quit worrying about campaigning.

  • atozca Jun 21, 4:21 p.m.

    "She pointed to training programs and community colleges as a way for the unemployed to learn new skills."

    Lol, I tried to get my husband into some kind of training program or community college... my husband is a master carpenter who has been in the trade for 40 years... there is nothing for him. If he spoke spanish then there are plenty of classes he could have taken at the community college... all the training classes were only available in ESL courses and we do not qualify. As far as training programs, again we do not qualify for most and can't afford the others. It is a tough situation. I on the other hand am well educated but my English degree is too old and so am I. We are earning our living doing whatever we can... scrap metal, handy man work, what ever we can... we only pulled 13 weeks unemployment. We owned and operated a business for 20 years and have been out of business for 4 years now. We are actually happy living the simple life.

  • djhartm Jun 21, 4:20 p.m.

    @Junkmail5

    Well well, I was wondering how long it would be before you blamed the Republicans. I am surprised it took you this long. It must be so very convenient to have one source for all your quibbles!

    Your "facts" are once again, merely twisted around to fit your strawman arguments. Case in point, your statement:

    "The GOP now wants to change it to cut taxes for the richest 5% "and RAISE them for everyone else."

    This is patently false; nothing more than taking the truth & distorting/dumbing it down to fit your own distorted world-view.

    Also amusing is your assertion that employers were to blame as well. As a previous small business owner, I can tell you firsthand, the taxes the government imposes are stifling and detrimental to economic growth. But that is of little concern to libs, as long as the "freebies" keep on coming.

  • BlueForever Jun 21, 4:20 p.m.

    @ Blue

    Yea, that is exactly the same, except... it isn't... I know it is popular (and ludicrous) to think ALL Federal or state expenditures come from borrowed money but it does not. In this case, the money SHOULD have been already collected and now SHOULD be collected from the ones who SHOULD have already paid it... Not from people out of work with little to nothing to spare..."
    Actually, I disagree with "SHOULD" since these are EXTENDED benefits we are talking.

  • saywhat37 Jun 21, 4:18 p.m.

    Get this and it ain't no lie. I know a guy who works at Caterpillar. Years ago they were told they may be laid off. Then found out that instead of being laid off they could get unemployment checks while they worked if they took one week off every month! And he made more money! Really??

  • FairPlay Jun 21, 4:16 p.m.

    It was the Democratically controlled state that made the mistake of lowering what the state charges companies for unemployment and made us borrow from the feds. Just like Clinton made the mistake of lowering credit standards so everyone could have a home in the 90's no matter how little you made. Dem bad decisions and we have to pay the piper later. Suck it up.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:14 p.m.

    @ AL
    What has happened was the largest global economic downturn since the Great Depression. Up to speed now...?

  • affirmativediversity Jun 21, 4:12 p.m.

    con't

    get rid of your cable TV (the entire shabang)...go sign up for a library card (most libraries will let you borrow movies)...conserve every piece of utility energy you can (it adds up) ... only purchase necessities (hint: a new outfit for an interview is not a necessity) ... if you have kids for goodness sake apply for public assistance (if your financial situation is as dire as you'd have us believe then you should be eligible for food stamps and, at a minimum, medicaid for your children)

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:11 p.m.

    @ Billy

    Actually the UI is owed, by law, to those who qualify... while looking for a job. Feel free to hand over one of yours if it disturbing to you that others are not a fortunate as yourself to have a (or 3) job and are being kept afloat by UI...

  • Minarchist Jun 21, 4:11 p.m.

    What plans does this administration have for when these folks lose homes food and are on the streets ? I sincerely hope that the pain this administration is putting on the unfortunate people that live here comes back to them ten fold.
    razor2
    June 21, 2013 3:23 p.m.
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    I dont understadn this mentality. If I went completely broke I would hunt for my food not ask others. Ill eat a squirrel or a fish. You can eat many leaves. Stop relying on other people. What is going on????

  • affirmativediversity Jun 21, 4:07 p.m.

    So I can kinda understand why a person didn't make any major changes in their living arrangements/expenses during the 26 weeks of actual UI benefits...but what I can't fathom is the people who have received TEMPORARILY extended benefits for a additional 74 weeks deluding themselves into thinking their lifestyle might not need to be scaled back and a plan B and plan C and probably a plan D needs to be thought out, agreed upon and implemented when necessary (you know on the off chance the "TEMPORARY" gravy train turns out to be really "TEMPORARY")

    Here's some suggestions...get rid of your cell phone (if you've been unemployed for almost 2 years then surely you haven't been silly enough to sign another contract with a cell company during that time)...you should have done this next months ago, downsize your home and even think about relocating to a less costly part of the state or another state by selling your home outright or renting it out for a sum equal to the mortgage payment...con't

  • wraluser Jun 21, 4:07 p.m.

    @ Blue

    Yea, that is exactly the same, except... it isn't... I know it is popular (and ludicrous) to think ALL Federal or state expenditures come from borrowed money but it does not. In this case, the money SHOULD have been already collected and now SHOULD be collected from the ones who SHOULD have already paid it... Not from people out of work with little to nothing to spare...

  • Minarchist Jun 21, 4:02 p.m.

    KidS? Why would you have a kid without $100K saved minimum. Kids are like pets or something to people. AL-CIA-DUH June 21, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    Few families make enough money to save $100,000 within childbearing years. Only rich people should have kids, according to you. Who is going to serve the rich kids if you don't allow the working class to have children? Eventually the older working class will just die out and there will be nobody left to serve.
    sisu
    June 21, 2013 12:19 p.m.
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    Rich? No. Just dont expect me to feed YOUR kids because you dont have any money saved when you lose YOUR job. WAHHHH I lost my job and didnt save any money, can you feed me. What has happened to this country and Im only 34.

  • Billy the Kid Jun 21, 3:53 p.m.

    Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything. Go get a job. I have three, so you can find just one.

  • wraluser Jun 21, 3:45 p.m.

    @laughnow

    Silly unemployed folks "bugging" for a job... what are they thinking...?

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