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  • Grand Union Apr 3, 1:42 p.m.

    "BTW... as a Life Member of the NRA and a reader of their publications I can tell you that you really know absolutely nothing about the NRA (which is normal for Liberals). Almost every time you mention them you're wrong about them. I usually don't bother correcting you though because it would take all day and you still wouldn't learn a thing."

    typical comment....everyone knows nothing, you knows everything but curiously can never actually back up any of your claims with actual facts. And you are a member of the NRA?....quelle suprise!

  • junkmail5 Apr 3, 8:49 a.m.

    I'm not sure you understand what is going on here or, you refuse to see!!! Don't question my understanding of what the UN and obama are doing- Rushbot

    yes, they're doing virtually nothing that does any of the things you suggest.

    Those of us without tinfoil hats recognize that the UN treaty, and in fact ANY treaty of any kind, is entirely non-binding on the US unless ratified by the Senate to start with.

    You apparently don't know that.

    Roughly two thirds of the senate opposes it... only about 1/3rd needs to to stop it.

    You apparently didn't know that.

    And even THEN the treaty puts no restrictions on domestic arms trade OR the right to bear arms inside a given nation. It's a treaty on INTERNATIONAL arms trading.

    You apparently didn't know that either.

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:59 p.m.

    Good nite all, thanks for participating in Freedom of Speech!!!

  • Ripcord Apr 2, 7:58 p.m.

    "The NRA's suggestion is nothing more than a press statement to make people like you think they are actually doing something." - WooHoo

    Wait a second... I thought the NRA was constantly lobbying and controlling politicians? So either they're doing something or they aren't, WooHoo... make up your mind.

    BTW... as a Life Member of the NRA and a reader of their publications I can tell you that you really know absolutely nothing about the NRA (which is normal for Liberals). Almost every time you mention them you're wrong about them. I usually don't bother correcting you though because it would take all day and you still wouldn't learn a thing.

  • mep Apr 2, 7:56 p.m.

    The NRA's suggestion is nothing more than a press statement to make people like you think they are actually doing something. Do you know why the Film Industry is not regulated in terms of age limits on movies (such as an "R"rating)? Because they SELF REGULATED so they government would not step in...the NRA's fatal flaw is they will not bend or compromise.
    WooHoo2You

    Same could be said about govt.... passing "feel good" laws that do nothing but compromise law abiding citizens rights. Those new "laws" will NOT stop a crazy person intent upon killing others. Not even if you hold up the paper the law is written on and show it to the shooter. LOL.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:56 p.m.

    Pretty naive to believe big tobacco hands out millions of dollars out of the kindness of their hearts so folks WONT buy their products. LOL.... LOL some more.-mep

    Facts are not naive...they are facts.

  • cjw6105 Apr 2, 7:55 p.m.

    Yes, June, by all means keep guns out of the public schools. Negotiating would be a better tactic than armed guards when confronting a shooter, and if this doesn't work, then I suggest that school administrators use their bodies as shields, to protect students.

    Like in Connecticut.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:54 p.m.

    Mayor Bloomberg has a spot for you on his "government knows best" team.-mep

    While the NRA suggests the GOVERNMENT keep our kids safe at GOVERNMENT schools with GOVERNMENT guards holding GOVERNMENT weapons paid for with your taxes dollars...do you listen to yourself????

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:53 p.m.

    stymieindurham said at 1948: ""I'm not sure you understand how treaties work. They don't supersede the constitution. They fundamentally can not do so." ============================================================ ==== I'm not sure you understand what is going on here or, you refuse to see!!! Don't question my understanding of what the UN and obama are doing. I understand fully!!! Do You???".. .. ..please explain exactly what you mean here, I don't follow..thanks..

  • Spock Apr 2, 7:52 p.m.

    The better solution here is to quit "TRYING" to educating the criminals - do not allow them even close to an educational area. They do not want to be there, yet we REQUIRE the delinquents to attend school.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:51 p.m.

    Hey WooHoo2You, re your 1938 comment...I understand "THEY" are going to switch from black helicopters to black drones..- rushbot

    Be careful what you say...."they" are listening ;)

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:50 p.m.

    The NRA's suggestion is one that maintains our rights while affording protection for our children from crazy people. Anything else is your delusions talking.-mep

    The NRA's suggestion is nothing more than a press statement to make people like you think they are actually doing something. Do you know why the Film Industry is not regulated in terms of age limits on movies (such as an "R"rating)? Because they SELF REGULATED so they government would not step in...the NRA's fatal flaw is they will not bend or compromise.

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:48 p.m.

    "I'm not sure you understand how treaties work. They don't supersede the constitution. They fundamentally can not do so."
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    I'm not sure you understand what is going on here or, you refuse to see!!! Don't question my understanding of what the UN and obama are doing. I understand fully!!! Do You???

  • mep Apr 2, 7:47 p.m.

    HA HA... tobacco companies NEVER voluntarily give money for anti-smoking campaigns. How stupid would THAT be?- mep

    Actually they do for the simple fact they can at least PRETEND (unlike the NRA) they might care. Did you know many fastfood chains support fitness programs even if healthy people eat less fastfood????
    WooHoo2You

    Pretty naive to believe big tobacco hands out millions of dollars out of the kindness of their hearts so folks WONT buy their products. LOL.... LOL some more.

    Mayor Bloomberg has a spot for you on his "government knows best" team.

  • forddp Apr 2, 7:46 p.m.

    Turning schools into free fire zones hardly seems in the best interest of children.

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:43 p.m.

    Hey WooHoo2You, re your 1938 comment...I understand "THEY" are going to switch from black helicopters to black drones..

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:43 p.m.

    woohoo..

    and yes, most shooters feel safe enough to walk in and shoot people...the ones wearing flak vests only do it to prolong their lives once the police arrive...

    school shooters are cowards.- Air Biscuit

    So they do or do not "feel safe" while feeling the need to wear body armor???

  • arfamr1007 Apr 2, 7:42 p.m.

    I would suggest also that our elected officials should lead by example and discontinue the use of armed security. HA. fat chance

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:41 p.m.

    HA HA... tobacco companies NEVER voluntarily give money for anti-smoking campaigns. How stupid would THAT be?- mep

    Actually they do for the simple fact they can at least PRETEND (unlike the NRA) they might care. Did you know many fastfood chains support fitness programs even if healthy people eat less fastfood????

  • junkmail5 Apr 2, 7:40 p.m.

    So this is what you really want? The UN superseding our constitution and your president applauding it?!!!!!" stymieindurham

    I'm not sure you understand how treaties work. They don't supersede the constitution. They fundamentally can not do so.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:38 p.m.

    No... a police state is when the govt dupes you into registering your firearms... then restricting them to certain "activities"... then restricting them to a select few... then they eventually confiscate the remainder.. and when only the govt has guns... it becomes a true "police state".

    Then watch how much faster your other rights disappear.- mep

    I seem to recall that same thing being "right around the corner" under Jimmy Carter.

    Next thing you know we won't be able to carry guns in court houses, be free to fire our weapons wherever we want without needing to explain what "activity" we are up to (maybe you want the "right" to shoot while ordering a Bigmac), have the freedom to display a gun to people on the highway whom we think are driving poorly ....oh no, I think I just saw a black helicopter!!!!

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:35 p.m.

    stymieindurham asked at 1925: ""UN arms trade treaty voted on." obama's Jay Carney said obama's administration is "pleased with the outcome". ============================================================ ====

    So this is what you really want? The UN superseding our constitution and your president applauding it?!!!!!" .. .. ..in this case, yes, I am ok with it.. ..

  • Air Biscuit Apr 2, 7:34 p.m.

    No respect--

    Great suggestions. Only one issue...how about teachers that are outside in modular huts for classrooms? Most of them are due to overcrowding in schools...most schools have them...they can't be made bulletproof (actually, they can ,but the system won't pay for it). The ones at my school are so old and shoddy that any small caliber weapon could fire right through it.

    also, not really talking about arming teachers...bad idea..there are crazy ones that would use the firearm for classroom management...

    ...more talking about additional armed personnel to patrol campus...maybe off duty military people or off duty police...just a suggestion...or maybe train and hire retired military personnel for security....

    your suggestions are great...and many of them are being implemented.

  • mep Apr 2, 7:31 p.m.

    Even tobacco companies offer (and pay for) anti smoking campaigns and programs however the NRA's only suggestion is bigger government and more spending while they maintain the status quo? Sorry but they expect everyone else to give but them.
    WooHoo2You

    HA HA... tobacco companies NEVER voluntarily give money for anti-smoking campaigns. How stupid would THAT be?

    The NRA's suggestion is one that maintains our rights while affording protection for our children from crazy people. Anything else is your delusions talking.

  • Air Biscuit Apr 2, 7:30 p.m.

    woohoo..

    and yes, most shooters feel safe enough to walk in and shoot people...the ones wearing flak vests only do it to prolong their lives once the police arrive...

    school shooters are cowards.

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:29 p.m.

    Ripcord ------you are wasting you time with him. These left-wingers are saying there have been 3292 gun deaths since the Conn. incident. We all know that's nonsense, unlss it's in Chicago.

  • mep Apr 2, 7:28 p.m.

    We are talking about MASS MURDERS not people who "almost" killed someone. Attempted murder and mass murder are not the same.
    WooHoo2You

    Attempted murder is the beginning phase of possible mass murder... something has to stop the escalation.... answer please?

    What does stop a person that has already shot someone from continuing to kill others? ie Mass murder. (Hint: Another person with a gun is a good start)

  • Air Biscuit Apr 2, 7:28 p.m.

    woohoo..

    I respectfully disagree with you....I saw this kid suffer for over a year...because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and "almost killed" someone IS a big deal. The shooter's intent WAS TO KILL...he just missed his target....and hit an innocent girl who will spend the REST OF HER life with migraines and spinal issues because of the bullet fragments.

    Sorry, but your argument doesn't hold much weight if you were not there to see it.

  • mep Apr 2, 7:26 p.m.

    The truth is we would need armed government guards everywhere to protect various places, like the malls, parks, libraries, office buildings and movie theaters. So eventually there will be armed guards everywhere, we'd basically be living in a police state.
    wildervb

    No... a police state is when the govt dupes you into registering your firearms... then restricting them to certain "activities"... then restricting them to a select few... then they eventually confiscate the remainder.. and when only the govt has guns... it becomes a true "police state".

    Then watch how much faster your other rights disappear.

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:25 p.m.

    "UN arms trade treaty voted on." obama's Jay Carney said obama's administration is "pleased with the outcome".
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    So this is what you really want? The UN superseding our constitution and your president applauding it?!!!!!

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:25 p.m.

    "Notice how the NRA's only 'solution' involves spending other people's money . . . . " - WooHoo

    And you expect, who... the NRA to pay for school security? They aren't responsible for school security, the gov't is. The NRA is simply offering suggestions (they have also suggested private guards rather than teachers). The NRA makes suggestions and the local governments can respond in any way they like. You don't like the suggestion? Fine. But attacking the NRA over school security is like attacking spoons for obesity. Ripcord

    Even tobacco companies offer (and pay for) anti smoking campaigns and programs however the NRA's only suggestion is bigger government and more spending while they maintain the status quo? Sorry but they expect everyone else to give but them.

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:21 p.m.

    Ripcord stated at 1915: "But attacking the NRA over school security is like attacking spoons for obesity." .. ..please sir or ma'am explain "how exactly does that logic flow"..

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:19 p.m.

    The shooter KNEW he was safe. If we made shooters feel unsafe instead of law-abiding citizens, things would change.- Air Biscuit

    "Safe???" The shooter who wore body armor and had a handgun to kill himself with WHEN (not if) the police arrived? When I feel safe I do not wear a bulletproof vest nor do I plan suicide....

  • alwayslovingu30 Apr 2, 7:18 p.m.

    go nra lets stop the washington crooks

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:17 p.m.

    woohoo..

    the shooter at Cape Fear High in Fayetteville got 12 years....he almost killed the innocent girl...- Air Biscuit

    We are talking about MASS MURDERS not people who "almost" killed someone. Attempted murder and mass murder are not the same.

  • NoRespect Apr 2, 7:17 p.m.

    "What would YOU suggest? I'd like to hear a viable alternative." AirBiscuit

    OK... How about secure, locked, entry doors with bullet-proof glass. Same glass for ground floor rooms. Allow no one in the building without proper credentials and an escort. Armor the building, not arm the teachers...

  • Ripcord Apr 2, 7:15 p.m.

    "Notice how the NRA's only 'solution' involves spending other people's money . . . . " - WooHoo

    And you expect, who... the NRA to pay for school security? They aren't responsible for school security, the gov't is. The NRA is simply offering suggestions (they have also suggested private guards rather than teachers). The NRA makes suggestions and the local governments can respond in any way they like. You don't like the suggestion? Fine. But attacking the NRA over school security is like attacking spoons for obesity.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:15 p.m.

    FOR THOSE WHO ARE POSTING AGAINST ARMED GUARDS IN SCHOOLS:

    Since you would not have armed people protecting our kids against people who can just walk in and open fire....

    What would YOU suggest? I'd like to hear a viable alternative.- Air Biscuit

    Not many people are against armed guards (armed teachers assistants maybe) but that is not the only alternative nor should it be the first. You act like the nuclear arms race made us safer from a nuclear attack. More weapons does not decrease the possibilities of violence....if that was the case gang members would be the safest people on earth.

  • junkmail5 Apr 2, 7:15 p.m.

    sure, that worked well at Virginia Tech where they have armed security, or at Columbine High School where they have armed security and of course the military base Fort Hood might have had one or two.- Melanie3

    Va tech campus is the size of a small city- so that's like complaining that armed cops are useless since they don't totally stop murder.

    Columbine the guard actually slowed down the gunmen twice, and escorted a number of students to safety...Saving lives in the process... but his pistol didn't have the range/accuracy to engage the bad guys rifles enough to do any more than distract/slow em down.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/fact-check-columbine-high-s-armed-guard-saved-student-lives

    Fort Hood- soldiers aren't allowed to carry their weapons in the area the shooting happened actually, so that's a pretty poor example.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:10 p.m.

    No, they are not made up polls. Just because you say they are doesn't make your accusation true.- stymieindurham

    Says the guy who makes up his own polls but can't back them up with a single link!!!!

  • Air Biscuit Apr 2, 7:08 p.m.

    woohoo..

    the shooter at Cape Fear High in Fayetteville got 12 years....he almost killed the innocent girl...showed no remorse...except an obligatory "I'm sorry" in court. The judge said that he was not giving the shooter life in prison because "God has something for him"....let him out in a few years to serve the Lord.

    Not coddled?

    This guy will go back to his neighborhood as a hero, and will shoot again.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 7:08 p.m.

    Pleae finish your misleading statement. Have these deaths been by legal firearm owners??? Courious. . . . .- stymieindurham

    99.9 percent of those guns were ORIGINALLY purchased 'legally' but some how made it into the hands of criminals....but why should we worry about how so many guns get into the wrong places so often. (And no, burglaries do not make up a large percent of those) Its a wonder how many guns get reported "stolen" or "lost" from years before when police contact their last registered owner AFTER they are used in a crime. As a responsible and law abiding citizen I would report felonies committed against me as soon as I realized they occurred ESPECIALLY when involving a device originally designed to kill / harm.

  • Air Biscuit Apr 2, 7:05 p.m.

    FOR THOSE WHO ARE POSTING AGAINST ARMED GUARDS IN SCHOOLS:

    Since you would not have armed people protecting our kids against people who can just walk in and open fire....

    What would YOU suggest? I'd like to hear a viable alternative. I teach at a school where someone was shot. Not a walk in the park...that shooter walked right in, pointed a gun and opened fire.

    The shooter KNEW he was safe. If we made shooters feel unsafe instead of law-abiding citizens, things would change.

    So...somebody out there...what do you suggest as an alternative?

  • rushbot Apr 2, 7:05 p.m.

    stymieindurham at 1858 said: "
    "THERE HAVE BEEN 3292 DEATHS BY FIREARMS SINCE NEWTON!!!" ============================================================ ====

    Pleae finish your misleading statement. Have these deaths been by legal firearm owners??? Courious. . . . ." sir or ma'am..here is a link for you to look and see for yourself..it is updated daily, and does NOT mention the ownership status of the firearm used...but that is not the point I am making..sorry I wasn't clear..I was commenting on the OBSCENITY which is death by firearm... .. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:04 p.m.

    "I can keep my old 30 rd magazines, I just have to register them."
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    This is only a feel-good resolution by the left-wing against the evil gun owners. No one in their right mind is going to tell the government what they have in their home. Are you kidding me?!!!!!

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:01 p.m.

    Guess you don't have a problem with the "3292 deaths" poll, huh?

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 7:00 p.m.

    No, they are not made up polls. Just because you say they are doesn't make your accusation true.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 6:59 p.m.

    "Notice how the NRA's only 'solution' involves spending other people's money . . . . " ============================================================ ==== Isn't this what your obama does . . . . . with his endless vacations?- stymieindurham

    Bush Jr is still the RECORD vacation taker EVER.

  • WooHoo2You Apr 2, 6:58 p.m.

    NRA says that the 'government is the solution' but their major players, contributors, and partners claim / run on the complete opposite????

  • stymieindurham Apr 2, 6:58 p.m.

    "THERE HAVE BEEN 3292 DEATHS BY FIREARMS SINCE NEWTON!!!"
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    Pleae finish your misleading statement. Have these deaths been by legal firearm owners??? Courious. . . . .

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