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  • lopo Mar 27, 9:57 a.m.

    Maybe the police should follow some of these buses and do their jobs instead of making speed traps that punish everyone except your true speeders or pulling people for seat belts.

  • Pretzel Logic Mar 26, 3:20 p.m.

    RE : I have seen buses run down the road for a 1/2 mile before they pull the red light, it is too confusing.

    Why is it confusing the rule is very clear,,, Yellow... not only are you not supposed to stop you are not required to stop ,,, by law, Red,,, Stop. If people would just understand the law and follow rather than everyone making up a different version of the law as they see fit, Rules/Laws are written as Standards so their is "Order" where everyone is doing the same thing,

    It's really simple.

  • Whosays Mar 26, 2:56 p.m.

    I think they should do away with the yellow lights on buses all together and just use the red lights, if you want someone to stop red is the key. I have seen buses run down the road for a 1/2 mile before they pull the red light, it is too confusing.

  • Pretzel Logic Mar 26, 2:34 p.m.

    RE : I thought pedestrians always had the right of way? The driver is always at fault if they hit a person. I guess I am wrong?

    The right of way does not give the right to step out into moving traffic

  • Pretzel Logic Mar 26, 1:56 p.m.

    RE : After reading the preceding comments, I noticed how narrow minded people are. Root cause analysis dictates that you ask, in addition to the other questions asked: Since SR50 is 2 lanes, what caused the driver to hit this child? Assuming that the driver was approaching the bus from behind, which appears to be the only way that the child would not have been seen, the driver in an attempt not to have to stay behind the bus as it continually stopped on SR50, would have "sped" around the bus....

    After reading this here comment I noticed how... people are

    Did you read the article ?

    Or are you just assuming your way through life ?

  • Capitals Fan Mar 26, 1:52 p.m.

    "Why has the driver not been placed under arrest?"---Obamecare Rises

    "FOR WHAT? Find a law that the driver broke, please."---leo-nc

    I thought pedestrians always had the right of way? The driver is always at fault if they hit a person. I guess I am wrong?

  • Pretzel Logic Mar 26, 1:50 p.m.

    RE : The fact of the matter is simple. We are not willing to spend money (raise taxes) to assure the safety of our children nor to compensate those who teach them!

    How about "THEIR PARENTS TEACH THEM FOR FREE !!!

    "WITHOUT RAISING TAXES"

  • cwalters125 Mar 26, 1:14 p.m.

    The fact of the matter is simple. We are not willing to spend money (raise taxes) to assure the safety of our children nor to compensate those who teach them! How bout it USA? Are your pursuits in life worth so much that you are not willing to adequately compensate those who risk their lives to save ours? Here are the some of the most important, but under-paid professions: Police, Fire, Rescue, Teachers. How must is spent annually on what we consider important (entertainment) vs those who educate and risk their lives????

  • leo-nc Mar 26, 1:13 p.m.

    "Why has the driver not been placed under arrest?"---Obamecare Rises

    FOR WHAT? Find a law that the driver broke, please.

  • cwalters125 Mar 26, 1:09 p.m.

    blah, I gave the benefit of the doubt. IF the car was traveling in the opposite direction then the driver should have seen the child and the flashing yellow lights that say SLOW DOWN FOR CHILDREN. nuf said.

  • blahblahblah Mar 26, 1:01 p.m.

    cwalters-did you ever think that the car was driving in the opposite direction of the bus and the child stepped out in front of the car? Why do you have to assume, as you say, that the car was behind the bus? You know what they say about assuming.

  • Obamacare rises Mar 26, 1:00 p.m.

    Why has the driver not been placed under arrest?

  • cwalters125 Mar 26, 12:46 p.m.

    After reading the preceding comments, I noticed how narrow minded people are. Root cause analysis dictates that you ask, in addition to the other questions asked: Since SR50 is 2 lanes, what caused the driver to hit this child? Assuming that the driver was approaching the bus from behind, which appears to be the only way that the child would not have been seen, the driver in an attempt not to have to stay behind the bus as it continually stopped on SR50, would have "sped" around the bus (while the yellow caution lights were flashing) and thereby hit this child. Do you think this driver did not know that there were children trying to board a bus? Was the trip with a momentary delay worth the life of this child? I agree that there should be an amendment calling for the all drivers to stop ANY TIME a school bus has flashing lights unless permitted to pass by the school bus driver. Additionally, it only makes good sense for the driver to exercise good judgement and watch for problems

  • rbenton Mar 26, 11:28 a.m.

    I have a 14 year old in a Wake County school and REFUSE to make her ride the bus to school. I live on Hwy 42, a 2-lane, 55 mph highway. I'll be darned if my kid's life will be put at risk to get to school. When is the school district going to do something about this? 7:15 start time for people that have to ride the bus is just.too.early.

  • maddiegracefull Mar 26, 10:58 a.m.

    does anyone wonder why the Wake County School Board had the child catching a bus at 6:30 a.m.. in the morning. It's still dark at that time. Maybe the schools should start at a decent hour!

  • indrdw Mar 26, 10:17 a.m.

    This is a reminder that we should always be aware of our surroundings. Being a school bus incident reminds of us to be extra cautious when it comes to any slowing, yellow lights of the bus.
    We all have times we do not notice things because of one reason or another. THese times could have been tragedies reported in the news. Maybe we do have guardian angels at those times stepping in between us and harm.
    Let us all pray for the family and the young driver that has to deal with this. Most importantly of all, let us learn a lesson.

  • SportsLover75 Mar 26, 9:15 a.m.

    First off prayers for this girls family a friends.
    Second I do not see why the picture should be taken down. It is a part of the story. And third-- this should be a huge reminder to all parents that you teach your children (younger and older) NOT to cross the road until the bus has come to a complete stop. Then to make sure nothing is coming before doing so.

  • RALEIGHNATIVE25 Mar 26, 8:39 a.m.

    There is nothing wrong with the picture. IT IS REALITY !! We are the only country of people that want the truth but don't want to SEE the truth. What we need is more pictures of cars after a person with drinking while driving, texting while driving and etc. Then possibly those incidents would decrease.

  • SouthernPackerFan Mar 26, 8:21 a.m.

    WRAL posts this up because it sells. Some of us however are tired of the sensationalism and just want news. Why do you want to make money off of the suffering of others?

    Damien Thorne
    begs the question......what do you consider news? seems there are lessons to be learned here from both the Kids/Parents of the victim, as well as the driver.......

  • driverkid3 Mar 26, 8:08 a.m.

    Damien Thorne, how do you figure I'm making money off these pictures? I am 45 miles away, not selling the pictures, and have no desire to. The pictures show what happened, perhaps you would like to turn away from them and pretend it doesn't ever happen? I happen to think that if people actually SEE the end results (like with the car) they will tend to be more careful. I don't like to hear of people getting killed like this any more than anyone else. But covering all of it or ignoring will NOT make it go away, you should know that.

  • Damien Thorne Mar 25, 7:56 p.m.

    "Why is everyone calling for the picture of the car to be taken down? It's part of the story, it is what happened."----driverkid3

    Because people are getting disgusted with "news" stations that want to sensationalize a childs death for profit and nothing more.

    "RE : Response from WRAL.com:

    Hopefully, stories and images like these will raise awareness and encourage people to take more safety precautions.

    Well Said WRAL ..."----Pretzel Logic

    Does this also go for closeups of vehicles that children were shot to death in like the one in Clayton? Closeups of vehicles with blankets over them like the wrong way crash last week?

    WRAL posts this up because it sells. Some of us however are tired of the sensationalism and just want news. Why do you want to make money off of the suffering of others?

  • Bartmeister Mar 25, 7:04 p.m.

    Betcha the Raleigh folk's kids do not wait for a bus at 5 and 6 a.m. in the dark!!

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    Don't know about 5 am, but kids in our subdivision are at the bus stops at or before 6:15 am.

  • Bartmeister Mar 25, 7:02 p.m.

    Man...that's sad.

  • RealStory Mar 25, 7:02 p.m.

    I love how people are talking about changing the law over 1 incident. Thankfully most people are very alert in the mornings/afternoons when buses are on the road.

    I feel terrible for the family, but in reality this child made a terrible decision to enter the roadway before the bus completely stopped. When I was in school, I always waited for the bus to completely stop, and I also checked the roadway for any traffic. Sadly, this child made a fatal decision not to. It's sad - but it seems the driver did nothing wrong other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time

  • driverkid3 Mar 25, 6:43 p.m.

    Why is everyone calling for the picture of the car to be taken down? It's part of the story, it is what happened. Maybe if people see this and take a really hard look at it, it will make them think twice and do what they need to do in order to avoid something like this. Maybe it will cause the kids to pay more attention to what is going on around them. I saw a couple of things about the girl texting? IF she was, why was she doing this? Could she not wait till she got on the bus to do it? Both adults and kids need to pay attention to what's going on around them, or more and more of these accidents will happen.

  • Pretzel Logic Mar 25, 6:39 p.m.

    RE : Response from WRAL.com:

    Hopefully, stories and images like these will raise awareness and encourage people to take more safety precautions.

    Well Said WRAL ...

  • Scubagirl Mar 25, 6:13 p.m.

    "Betcha the Raleigh folk's kids do not wait for a bus at 5 and 6 a.m. in the dark!! BlahBlahBlah..."

    Um, yes they DO! The problem often times is kids, like many adults sadly, think it's safe to cross the road when it's not. Just because the bus is coming doesn't mean it's safe-folks need to teach the kids that. Also some looking both ways is usually in order-kids AND adults. I see many adults just sauntering across the street and never even look up to SEE if traffic is coming. Car will win every time

  • BlahBlahBlahBlahBlah Mar 25, 6:05 p.m.

    So tragic.
    How many children this year have been killed while waiting at bus stops in NC???? One is too many but I know I have read of about several others.
    Does anyone have that data?
    Someone in NC wants the students to go to school at all costs to get more hours in to pass a bunch of tests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NC needs to shorten the school day so that no one will be at a bus stop at 6:30. Betcha the Raleigh folk's kids do not wait for a bus at 5 and 6 a.m. in the dark!!
    These Bus tragedies are occurring all over this state and at an alarming rate and someone needs to do something!!
    My deepest sympathy for the family and friends of this young lady.

  • kodac31 Mar 25, 6:04 p.m.

    I STRONGLY think the NC Legislature should consider revising the "Stopped School Bus Law" to where it would REQUIRE a school bus driver who is approaching an area that the driver knows they are to stop the bus at...the new law should REQUIRE that the driver is to activate ALL RED LIGHTS, EXTEND THE SAFETY ARM AND STOP SIGN of the bus when it reaches 200-300 feet of a KNOWN STOP location. This easy revision would start the "stop warning" process much sooner, and quickly alert drivers well in advance of the stop that they need to slow down and go ahead and prepare for a complete stop...AS WELL AS, IT WOULD ALERT DRIVERS THAT IN ANOTHER 200-300 FEET AHEAD THAT A CHILD IS LIKELY TO BE WALKING OUT INTO THE ROADWAY! Just an Idea.... WHAT DO YALL THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA?? AGREE'S DISAGREE'S? ANY THING HERE THAT YOU THINK IS A BAD IDEA OR GOOD IDEA, IF SO...WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE OR SUGGEST???

  • beachlady Mar 25, 5:54 p.m.

    Please pray for this family..... and watch out for kids. Some of the comments here are a little heartless. Yes, kids need to pay attention and watch for cars, but drivers need to do the same. Busses = kids. I'd rather be late than to have a situation like this one to deal with.

  • LIR Mar 25, 5:54 p.m.

    My sincere condolences to the Jimenez family - especially her 16 year old brother that was a few steps behind her. I'm sure he will never forget the incident. So sad!!!

  • Just Plain Common Sense Mar 25, 5:49 p.m.

    Children of ANY age should NOT be at a bus stop at 6:30 a.m. PERHAPS all this bussing, additional fuel costs at exhorbitant prices and CHILDREN who are UNATTENDED at bus stops. They should be just waking up at 6:30 a.m. NO CHILD should be at a bus stop before or after dark...and should NEVER cross a road to get on to or off a buss. Make the routes so that does not happen. It can and should. Sickening. Poor child and family.

  • beaupeep Mar 25, 5:29 p.m.

    "... but I also see how most of you drive in Wake County. You are selfish, self centered and not paying attention to driving. Your are not aware of your situation."

    Something against Wake County have we?

  • ifcdirector Mar 25, 5:22 p.m.

    That picture is in VERY poor taste. Also isn't it amazing how law enforcement has to clamor to try and find something, anything, that they can charge someone with? It's hard to say who makes more out of tragedies like this but it sure looks like lots of folks are trying to stay in business.

  • bombayrunner Mar 25, 5:19 p.m.

    that is so sad. not sure how many times people try to beat that arm and the red lights. when that bus is slowing down ... I know kids are running to it.

    One problem is that if they are not right there, the driver often just leaves ... so the kids are under pressure to be right there.

  • 1ncman Mar 25, 5:16 p.m.

    This is tragic, my thoughts are with family. Someone please tell me one more time why we have to go to daylight saving time.
    I go to work at 6 am, buses are on the road at this time and it is DARK. Why not leave time EST?

  • RealStory Mar 25, 5:14 p.m.

    Some people here need to start acting like adults. A picture of the windshield shows nothing "graphic". Im glad WRAL stood behind their decision... there's nothing wrong with it in the first place.

    Exactly what's wrong with America now adays... people act like they need things sanitized 50x over. Grow up...

  • Opinionated1 Mar 25, 5:09 p.m.

    School bus lights and stoplights are not them same. Don't try to squeeze the lemon and run on by/through when a school bus has it's yellow lights on. They are letting you know they are about to stop, not giving you an indicator to not pay attention and cruise on by.

  • candyappleelixir Mar 25, 5:08 p.m.

    Thoughts and prayers for family and lived ones.

  • jackflash123 Mar 25, 5:01 p.m.

    "i go to school with the girl who died and she was in my english one class she was so nice and sorta shy but smart we will always love and miss her"

    Sorry you're going through this. Prayers for you and your entire school community to find peace and honor her memory.

  • tootiefrootie Mar 25, 4:58 p.m.

    Kids should not be boarding buses that early in the morning. Time to change the school schedule. Wait, we must have socio-economic engineering here and provide transportation to all magnets! This is simply horrible, our children deserve better.

  • golorealist Mar 25, 4:53 p.m.

    "Please tell me how the picture of the car showing the damage from a human being killed by it contributes to the story?" - damien thorne

    it doesn't. it's nothing more than shock value sensationalism at it's finest. of course, wral will never acknowledge that, but it's in poor taste. it does nothing to bring attention to the matter. the story itself does that. wral will show the closest thing to a dead body without actually showing the dead body. smashed car, white sheet, blood drops, and they will always do their best to get close ups of family members crying. but, fwiw, journalism isn't about protecting loved ones. it's about making money on advertising. sensationalism sells.

  • Nancy Mar 25, 4:51 p.m.

    "Maybe the school district needs to rethink their hours for the start of school."

    Drivers run three routes in the morning and three in the afternoon. One high school, one elementary and one middle school. As a result, the start times have to be staggered to be able to get all students picked up and to schools on time.

    Changing the start times doesn't address the cost of having three times the number of drivers and buses to make sure no student needs to be picked up or taken home in the dark.

  • ronniecarter45 Mar 25, 4:50 p.m.

    i go to school with the girl who died and she was in my english one class she was so nice and sorta shy but smart we will always love and miss her

  • Nancy Mar 25, 4:50 p.m.

    "After he boards the bus they drive around for 15-20 minutes or so and pick up other kids and then turn around and drive right back by my street. If they picked him up at the end of the route instead of the beginning he would not need to cross the street."

    You can call the district office that handles your school transportation and ask for the route stop to be changed. In fact, the bus drivers should be doing that directly with their supervisors.

    The route that is spit out by transportation headquarters rarely works as it should and safety is paramount, stops can be changed if there is a safer way to pick up a student. Not all stops can be changed but those that can should. CALL the office!

  • kj90 Mar 25, 4:48 p.m.

    I offer my condolences to the Jimenez family.

  • Vietnam Vet Mar 25, 4:38 p.m.

    Maybe if these children weren't trying to catch their buses in the dark this tragedy might not have happened. Maybe the school district needs to rethink their hours for the start of school.

  • dejr88 Mar 25, 4:37 p.m.

    I agree with Adam Kempf's sisters post. Read it once, twice....make sure you read it well.

  • buford Mar 25, 4:37 p.m.

    futuremrssykes and the jiminez family, I am so sorry for your loss...this is so heartbreaking...

    I agree that the picture of the car and the video showing the broken windshield is uncalled for. Take them both down.

  • Dadof4girls Mar 25, 4:35 p.m.

    The tragic here is that Wake Counties growth and mishandling of the bus system caused this death. Students boarding buses at 6:15 and earlier is ridiculous but they have to. Buses must make lots of routes each morning and evening. The service should no longer be run by WCPSS. It should be turned over to private firms like almost every other state. Competitive bids would allow a later school start and the death of this student.

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