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  • jwstevens04 Mar 22, 2:26 p.m.

    mvschaffer77---I agree with you, but I will say this, if the Argus gets wind of it, you can guarantee they will get something wrong. I'm from Goldsboro as well and have known the family for as long as I can remember.

  • mvschaffer77 Mar 20, 12:49 p.m.

    @jwstevens04 I know he is from Goldsboro...I grew up there as well and went to school with Ray. I was just pointing out that the article not being in the News Argus doesn't necessarily have anything to do with money or politics because he isn't a current resident of Goldsboro so it wouldn't be a given to be covered by the local paper.

  • Crumps Br0ther Mar 20, 11:31 a.m.

    He's a victim of this society's concept of having fun means getting drunk, and St Patrick's Day is a drunken holiday. We're all victims in some way, adn we are all to share the blame." -djofraleigh

    I bounced at a bar this weekend downtown and flagged down lots and lots of cabs for people who were taking responsibilty for their fun. I would have flagged down a cab for this guy too if he had asked.

  • tarheelpatriot Mar 19, 6:02 p.m.

    "We don't know the condition of this driver today, do we? Let's hope he survives and finds a way to redeem himself for killing two people. He isn't an evil person, and advised people not to drink & drive in the st pat's day a year or two ago. He's a victim of this society's concept of having fun means getting drunk, and St Patrick's Day is a drunken holiday. We're all victims in some way, adn we are all to share the blame.
    djofraleigh"

    He is a victim ??? Really ???

  • Mods Hate Me Mar 19, 3:25 p.m.

    "He's a victim of this society's concept of having fun means getting drunk, and St Patrick's Day is a drunken holiday. We're all victims in some way, adn we are all to share the blame." -djofraleigh

    This guy is a victim? No, this guy is a double murderer. And, until we enact a stronger punishment as a society, this trend of drunk driving murders will continue to rise.

  • kodac31 Mar 19, 3:16 p.m.

    Wouldn't it be really really interesting if in the 2 DWI cases that were dismissed...that WRAL can find out that this man was represented by the former Defense Attorney and now multiple convicted Felon JAMES CROUCH who as we all know used illegal tactics to get DWI cases dismissed/altered. And even more interesting would be if the JUDGE in both those dismissed cases turned out to be the FORMER DISGRACED & CONVICTED CRIMINAL KRISTEN RUTH...Who signed off on all those illegal actions that Crouch was doing. If WRAL will do its job and provide this information to the people..as it can so easily do since ALL those records are public information....then we can find out if the infamous duo of CROUCH & RUTH were involved here in those dismissals!!! We expect no less than a full investigation here WRAL!

  • kodac31 Mar 19, 3:11 p.m.

    ATTENTION WRAL MODERATOR! PLEASE FORWARD THIS STATEMENT TO YOUR PRODUCERS, CRIME REPORTERS, ETC.
    The fact that this man has had 3 prior DWI arrest is disgusting! What's even MORE disgusting is that for (UNKNOWN REASONS AT THIS TIME) 2 OF THOSE DWI CHARGES WERE "DISMISSED" IN THE WAKE COUNTY JUDICIAL SYSTEM! WE THE PEOPLE & CITIZENS OF NC DESERVE ANSWERS AS TO WHY THEY WERE DISMISSED, WHAT DISTRICT ATTORNEY AUTHORIZED IT, WHO WAS THIS MANS DEFENSE LAWYER, & MOST IMPORTANTLY WHO WAS THE JUDGE THAT GAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORIZATION TO "DISMISS" THESE 2 DWI CASES...AND WHAT "REASONS" WERE DOCUMENTED ON THE DISMISSAL FORM!!!
    **EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE PROPOSED CAN EASILY BE ANSWERED BY HAVING A WRAL INVESTIGATION REPORTER HAVE THOSE CASE FILES PULLED. BY LAW, IT WILL INDICATE WHO THE PROSECUTOR WAS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY WAS, AND THE JUDGE, AND BY LAW IT ALSO **MUST** INCLUDE ON THE DISMISSAL FORM THE EXACT REASON(S) WHY HIS DWI WAS DISMISSED!! WE DEMAND ANSWERS! WRAL DO YOUR JOB!!!

  • Jimmytwotimes Mar 19, 3:09 p.m.

    I wonder how many people on here support DUI checkpoints but also dont want any firearm regulations. Dui checkpoints are major violation of the 4th amendment rights. So basically you are a hypocrite if you don't want anyone to violate your 2nd amendment gun rights but you think its ok to have your 4th amendment violated by DUI Check points. So either you support both amendments being violated or neither.

    Rip to the victims and condolences to the families, this is a horrible trajedy

  • djofraleigh Mar 19, 2:42 p.m.

    We don't know the condition of this driver today, do we? Let's hope he survives and finds a way to redeem himself for killing two people. He isn't an evil person, and advised people not to drink & drive in the st pat's day a year or two ago. He's a victim of this society's concept of having fun means getting drunk, and St Patrick's Day is a drunken holiday. We're all victims in some way, adn we are all to share the blame.

  • Jimmytwotimes Mar 19, 2:41 p.m.

    The arrogance behind that statement is what has changed the laws in NC since the 1950s, when DWI was treated as a relatively minor offense. Almost daily deaths in alcohol related driving have changed that in NC, and attitudes of drinkers who drive. They drink for the effect, then say they aren't affected, a self-evident fallacy

    What has changed the law is the need for the state to find more ways to get more money from the citizens. .08 is a joke and does not affect your driving. Cmon man.

  • Jimmytwotimes Mar 19, 2:39 p.m.

    Jimmytwotones:

    Yoy don't know what you are talking about. I work in insurance and process claims and drivers have accident with low bac's. I see reports all the time with bac'a less than .08. I see bac's with every number at .08 who have accident's. So your logic isn't true.

    Well than it probably wasn't the alcohol that made them crash. it was probably just an accident and they had a couple beers in them, so unless sober people "never crash" than your logic is not true.

  • kodac31 Mar 19, 2:32 p.m.

    ATTENTION WAKE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY & JUDGES! WE WILL BE WATCHING! M.A.D.D. WILL BE PRESENT! THE PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING! WE EXPECT ABSOLUTELY NO PLEA DEAL OR ANY LENIENCY IN SENTENCING!
    We're already disgusted that Assistant District Attorney Jeff Cruden has ONLY moved to add the charge of Felony Death by Vehicle. This is a 2nc degree Murder Case at best, at the least a Voluntary Manslaughter Case! Rouse KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING when he continued to get behind the wheel to drive drunk, he knows the consequences & certainly the danger that he KNOWINGLY, BY HIS NEGLIGENT DEADLY BEHAVIOR, would continue to put innocent drivers lives in jeopardy!! This man REFUSED to learn his lesson after some "slick defense lawyers" got him off. So what does he do? He says to Heck with it, I'll drive drunk whenever I want to! Why? Because he KNOWS HE COULD HIRE A CERTAIN *(THERE'S 3 I'M REFERRING TO ONLY-OTHER DEF LAWYERS ARE GOOD GUYS)* CUNNING DEF. LAWYERS WITH NO MORAL COMPASS to get him of

  • cocker_mom Mar 19, 2:19 p.m.

    What a terrible tragedy. It would be interesting to know the circumstances for the 2 prior dismissals. I believe that sentences / punishments are usually harsher for repeat offenders. If the legal system missed an opportunity to impress upon this young man that his actions had serious consequences - wonder if he could have snapped out of this behavior. And 2 folks could still be alive.

    Sad.

  • djofraleigh Mar 19, 2:11 p.m.

    I am an adult in a free country, If I want to have a few beers and drive I will...COMMENT

    The arrogance behind that statement is what has changed the laws in NC since the 1950s, when DWI was treated as a relatively minor offense. Almost daily deaths in alcohol related driving have changed that in NC, and attitudes of drinkers who drive. They drink for the effect, then say they aren't affected, a self-evident fallacy.

    Society can hold killers behind the wheel criminally responsible for manslaughter, even murder.

    Strict laws have reduced DWIs while availability of alcohol has increased. Rehab hasn't proven effective enough at prevention via repairing the cognitive distortion evident in many drinkers.

    I know best. I'm going to drink. No one is going to stop me. Those are the words coming out of the mouths of those who MUST drink, who feel they have to have it. There are programs which can help them become free again, but society doesn't make it easy to reach out, or be reached.

  • ASU Mar 19, 1:53 p.m.

    Jimmytwotones:

    Yoy don't know what you are talking about. I work in insurance and process claims and drivers have accident with low bac's. I see reports all the time with bac'a less than .08. I see bac's with every number at .08 who have accident's. So your logic isn't true.

  • Rocknhorse Mar 19, 1:48 p.m.

    ".08 needs to be changed back to .12, the only people that crash cause they are drunk are people with BAC's above .25. Look back at all Dui crashes and you will see I am not making this up."

    The drunk that hit (and crippled) me was at .172! Before he rounded the curve and we collided, the witness to the wreck had watched him hitting the shoulder on BOTH sides of the road. In court, he testified that he'd only had 3 drinks, to which the judge countered, "What were they in, 5 gallon buckets?"

    Increasing the limit would not stop fools from driving drunk. More strict sentencing might dissuade some!

  • itsmyownopinion Mar 19, 12:50 p.m.

    "I am an adult in a free country, If I want to have a few beers and drive I will and I will be as safe as i ever am. It's the nuts that drink a 1/5th of whiskey and 12 pack of beer than drive that are dangerous."

    Jimmytwotimes

    We'll meet back here when you kill somebody.

  • Jimmytwotimes Mar 19, 12:41 p.m.

    NEVER! And I've been driving since age 15 and am now 44. NEVER. There is NO EXCUSE. Just because one person does it, does that make it right for another? ANY of them?! Come on, what kind of thinking is that?! That's why there are too many dead people as a result of others drinking and driving. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY! YOU think it's not a big deal. Try losing your parents to a drunk driver, or your kid, or your spouse, or your sister! Seriously, wake up!

    I am an adult in a free country, If I want to have a few beers and drive I will and I will be as safe as i ever am. It's the nuts that drink a 1/5th of whiskey and 12 pack of beer than drive that are dangerous.

  • Jimmytwotimes Mar 19, 12:39 p.m.

    To all of you people swing for the fences on this guy. How many of you have a glass of wine or a beer when you go out to eat? Im sure there a lot of you."

    It's one thing to have a drink with dinner, which typically will not put your BAC over .08, and being so intoxicated that you can't even drive on the right side of the road. Some people just do not learn from their mistakes

    I'm not ok with this, but lets say he had 3 beers which puts him at .08 which is hardly even a noticeable buzz. Its just a number made by NC to collect dui money. than he made a wrong turn on a confusing road and killed people. Do we still want him hung? .08 needs to be changed back to .12, the only people that crash cause they are drunk are people with BAC's above .25. Look back at all Dui crashes and you will see I am not making this up. Anyway, I'm betting the guy was probably smashed and crashed cause he was drunk,...just saying, stop jumping to conclusions, he mighta had 2 or 3 beers

  • JDAmbrosio Mar 19, 12:30 p.m.

    "To all of you people swing for the fences on this guy. How many of you have a glass of wine or a beer when you go out to eat? Im sure there a lot of you."

    NEVER! And I've been driving since age 15 and am now 44. NEVER. There is NO EXCUSE. Just because one person does it, does that make it right for another? ANY of them?! Come on, what kind of thinking is that?! That's why there are too many dead people as a result of others drinking and driving. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY! YOU think it's not a big deal. Try losing your parents to a drunk driver, or your kid, or your spouse, or your sister! Seriously, wake up!

  • more cowbell Mar 19, 11:31 a.m.

    Police said they planned to charge him with DWI and driving the wrong way on a dual-lane highway once he is released from the hospital.

    I would charge him with the offense now. Why wait?

  • Native NC gal Mar 19, 11:23 a.m.

    Just curious as to why WRAL would think it relevant to say the driver is a graduate of UNC-Chapel Hill.

  • jwstevens04 Mar 19, 11:03 a.m.

    mvschaffer77---the family is from Goldsboro...it's where he grew up.

  • PanthersFan45 Mar 19, 10:32 a.m.

    Kind of makes me wonder if this guy got special treatment with prior DWI's because he was a college graduate of UNC, and may have been very successful in his employment. I don't know, but this is really a shame to see ...this happened the middle of the day too, and that's what makes this scary, ANYONE could have been a victim at that hour. Just tragic.

  • kornfan2448 Mar 19, 9:59 a.m.

    "To all of you people swing for the fences on this guy. How many of you have a glass of wine or a beer when you go out to eat? Im sure there a lot of you."

    It's one thing to have a drink with dinner, which typically will not put your BAC over .08, and being so intoxicated that you can't even drive on the right side of the road. Some people just do not learn from their mistakes.

  • readme Mar 19, 9:43 a.m.

    Too bad those charges in 2005 and 2006 were dismissed. Maybe he would have done some hard time.

  • NC_interest Mar 19, 9:31 a.m.

    This is just a sad case all around. I was probably 10 minutes seperated from being at that same location as the couple that was killed. Horrible tragedy. I don't know what to say for the alcoholic that did this. Should he survive, he has an incredible penance to pay for his non sobriety. He needs to be kept away from cars and alchohol, as he has repeatedly shown that he can not manage to control his drinking and keep control of his decision making. Be it Prison or a Mental institution, he should not be left out in public to make the same bad decisions.

  • TWAL Mar 19, 9:18 a.m.

    You know the sad thing about all this is ,well educated people as the accused has seen this and still will drink and drive. I feel no sorrow for the drunk driver. He has ruined everyones life at the moment he decide to go out and have fun. If we continue to feel for these people, we will continue to let them kill our families. What is the difference in killing someone with a car drunk than pulling a trigger. I know theres people that say they don't deserve the death penalty, but they give other people the death penalty with no jury. So we just give them a few years in jail and hope they change. Everyone cried about the school shooting and wants new laws and drunks are killing people HOURLY! LAWYERS are waiting to get this case and defend this habitual drunk driver. To his family I'm sorry you have to go through this.

  • sinenomine Mar 19, 9:02 a.m.

    If the allegedly DWI driver survives I assume that, in light of his having a previous conviction for DWI, he will be charged with two counts of second degree murder? This case would seem to me to be on all fours with the notorious matter from a couple of years ago in which Raymond Cook was charged with second degree murder after killing a young woman in a crash on Strickland Road.

  • Rocknhorse Mar 19, 8:51 a.m.

    "To all of you people swing for the fences on this guy. How many of you have a glass of wine or a beer when you go out to eat? Im sure there a lot of you."

    I do not! If I am driving, I CHOOSE to teetotal! My husband and I CHOOSE to set the example for our kids that there is NO amount of alcohol acceptable if you are getting behind the wheel of a car!! NONE!

  • Rocknhorse Mar 19, 8:46 a.m.

    Very tragic for the couple who he killed through his selfish and self-serving actions!! My thoughts and prayers for their friends and family!!

    I also feel for the friends and family of the drunk! How horrible to see someone you love and care for take no regard for themselves or others. Again, selfish and self-serving. My thoughts and prayers for his family and friends as well.

    As for the drunk (and yes, I will use that derogatory term b/c he IS a drunk, proven repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that he has no inclination to learn and change), should he not survive from this wreck, then he will no longer be able to make himself a lethal weapon, intentionally setting out (yes, drunk driving IS intentional, it's a choice and decision) to harm himself and others. Should he live, I honestly hope he spends the rest of his life in jail! The first time, I can chalk it up to a mistake and stupid decision. But 4?? Total disregard to others!!

  • lisa4 Mar 19, 8:21 a.m.

    Prayers for the families

  • Terkel Mar 18, 7:47 p.m.

    "the parole committee did not know in our case that the offender had received another DWI. WE went to them with the info and the tape from the TV studio."

    Apparently the judicial system's parole file doesn't talk to the judicial system's convictions file. The code could be written on the back of an envelope, for heaven's sake. How could this be?

    Gov McC, PLEASE continue with the IT audits. Hire people who want to fix the systems, get rid of the people who sit with their fingers up their noses watching the clock.

  • samco conservative Mar 18, 7:47 p.m.

    No judgements here..only wish to send prayers and condolences to everyone involved in this horrible tragedy. God give peace and comfort to all in the Bailey and Rouse families.

  • Earth Brooks Mar 18, 7:37 p.m.

    "How many of us might learn from this? He had many lessons and didn't. Are we any better if we drink and drive?"

    Hear, hear!

  • djofraleigh Mar 18, 7:25 p.m.

    The unintentional killing of two people on a peaceful Sunday morning street in Raleigh is tragic.

    Wonder why, even if drunk, he went so far up Wade on the wrong side when the barrier to the other side is just a concrete hump? You'd think he would look at the two lanes to the right and go "what's that?" and slow. He almost got to the Glenwood bridge before hitting the elderly couple.

    Now, he is a killer and he might die himself. Nothing but death and destruction came that Sunday morning. I'm glad the deceased couple had been to church that morning, for something of peace comes to mind for that. Don't know where the DWI was coming from. I hope he lives to somehow redeem himself from this double killing of his. What a burden to bear!

    How many of us might learn from this? He had many lessons and didn't. Are we any better if we drink and drive?

  • rlee1117 Mar 18, 7:22 p.m.

    Wonder if this was one of the dozens that Judge Cutie Pie "didn't realize" she was signing off on until she "stepped down". Terkel

    Until the case with wakemed I see all judges going along with what the DA's are willing to charge people with. Even in that case the judge still did what the DA wanted. Correct me if I am wrong but is it not the DA's that bring these to court in the first place not the Judges!

  • djofraleigh Mar 18, 7:02 p.m.

    when are you bleeding hearts going to realize more laws or strictrer laws arent going to affect anything. -- comment

    What, do nothing? It's hopeless! Well, since the 1950s I've witnessed a great decline in the amount of drunk driving and a great increase in the public's lack of sympathy. Arrests are down by a third since the % dropped from .10% top .08. The big reason is public opinion makes for designated drivers and taking of keys. I'm not going to blame the alcohol, but the drinker, and those around him when he drives. Drink and stay put!

  • bubbba Mar 18, 6:59 p.m.

    Wonder if this was one of the dozens that Judge Cutie Pie "didn't realize" she was signing off on until she "stepped down". Terkel

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    You love this guy too? Ex-Judge Ruth let off 53 drivers and got a reprimand.

  • lwe1967 Mar 18, 6:58 p.m.

    He should be charged with two counts of manslaughter also. Previous DWIs? He is one that should be charged as they do in Norway for DWI or DUI. First time, you loose your license for 60 days, 30 days in jail. Second time, 1 year in jail and you loose your license for 3 years. Third time, a lengthy prison term, no plea bargaining, no time off, and you loose your license permanently.

  • yepitsme83 Mar 18, 6:56 p.m.

    Bottom line: this horrible accident that took two lives could have been prevented. I hope he goes to prison for a very very long time.

  • whyalltheproblems Mar 18, 6:54 p.m.

    very well said, Crumps BrOther.

    so very sad for the couple and their family's loss..

  • Mom2two Mar 18, 6:51 p.m.

    I will hope that God decides that taking two people is a plenty after having not learned from the first three episodes, and decides to let the victims forgive him themselves as they meet at the pearly gates.

  • pafields817 Mar 18, 6:21 p.m.

    DUI does not always refer to achohol. One can take drugs and be under the influence. I surely believe that is the situation in this case. It would certainly explain why the other DUIs were dropped. Most likely he went to a treatment program instead. And Ray looks quite different from last St. Patty's Day to this one. He looks bloated. I could surely say more about Ray, but choose not to at this time.

    Since the Bailey's were Christian church going people, I think that they would want us to pray for Ray. So that is what I will choose to do for now.

  • Crumps Br0ther Mar 18, 6:15 p.m.

    To all of you people swing for the fences on this guy. How many of you have a glass of wine or a beer when you go out to eat? Im sure there a lot of you. Thats enough to to get you a DUI if you havent metabolized in time. Im sure ou would be crying about only have one drink as your are being hauled downtown

  • Crumps Br0ther Mar 18, 6:12 p.m.

    They're too bust covering breasts and making sure minorities and the working poor can't vote. You know, the important stuff.
    Save It

    when are you bleeding hearts going to realize more laws or strictrer laws arent going to affect anything. I wish I sold knee braces because of all the jurking that goes on around here. You need to understand when someone is drunk or high they are not thinking clearly. they are not going to weigh their options before getting into a car. I bounce at bars and deal with drunks all the time, they are very hard to reason with. So more laws isnt that answer and lifetime revocation for first offense is ridiculous. Most people will learn from their first mistake. Regardless though there a lot of people on NC roads that don't have driver licenses.

    Its funny how many of you want to take someone licenses but are bellyaching about providing them for free for voter ID

  • pja1357 Mar 18, 6:09 p.m.

    Here was a very nice couple leaving CHURCH to go to their home to watch the games - they just were heading home to spend time together BUT yet this drunk driver decided to take the life of this dear couple. We need to follow this and make sure he stays behind bars for good.

  • anne53ozzy Mar 18, 5:48 p.m.

    I know there are ways to enablae all autos w a breath lock of sorts for alcohol consumption. The powers that be are kneeling to the companies that manufacture and distribute alcohol. Not too hard to figure out, is it?

  • avidreader Mar 18, 5:46 p.m.

    I thought our state was supposed to have some of the harshest DWI laws. Should be able to charge him with first degree murder - he obviously chooses to drive while drunk and that should be (but isn't) first degree.

  • jackpalmerpe Mar 18, 5:32 p.m.

    Hopefully, Ray Ray will be a very old man the next time he even sees the opportunity to drive a vehicle again.

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