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  • rdcress Feb 28, 8:30 a.m.

    There are plenty of regulations and guidelines that exist and will exist after this legislation passes. Fracking has been in existence for many years and there has not been a single documented instance of water contamination, earthquake, or other "scare mongering" catastrophe. Certainly there need to be rules and guidelines in the process and there are plenty in place already. It's time to get rid of the excessive and non-beneficial regulations and bureaucrats. Fear, ignorance, and media hype have cost us excessively in the past. The liberals continually chant the mantra of moving forward but seldom want to allow free enterprise the ability to benefit individuals. It's time to truly move forward and let the people produce and the economy grow. The more regulations and bureaucrats thrown in the mix the move opportunity for corruption and cronyism. Let's keep it simple and transparent.

  • linkz145 Feb 27, 2:00 p.m.

    Ocean Acidification Ocean Acidification Ocean Acidification

  • torchhappysean Feb 27, 1:51 p.m.

    Well, well... It looks like big money is going to win again.. When are our representatives going to actually REPRESENT the lowly citizens of this state instead of treating us like lowly peasants???

  • JohnFLob Feb 27, 11:16 a.m.

    Hey why don't we see if we can entice 'green energy' companies to North Carolina? Then we can rest assured there will not be any environmental contamination. Nothing but pure air, water, and soil.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/26/green-energy-subsidy-recipient-a-toxic-waste-problem/

  • bgibson3 Feb 27, 10:14 a.m.

    Let the NC Senate and House know whichever way you feel:

    Senate email addresses:

    http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/members/reports/room-phone.pl?Chamber=senate&viewType=normal

    House email addresses:

    http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/members/reports/room-phone.pl?Chamber=House&viewType=normal

  • cruzinlong Feb 27, 9:29 a.m.

    Very good read below:

    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/343202/description/The_Facts_Behind_the_Frack

    Potential hazards, earthquake info. included

  • Come On_Seriously Feb 27, 9:19 a.m.

    Other changes in the bill include removing the state geologist and water and air experts from the state Mining and Energy Commission. An amendment that local governments be able to charge drillers taxes to pay for the damage to local roads their trucks and equipment cause was voted down also.

    They insist on getting rid of every individual who has a brain not tuned to the conservative mantra and are rolling back safeguards that were inserted to get enough votes on board (in the first place and to override a smart veto), and now they're going back to what they wanted to do in the first place- allow a handful of companies to drill without worrying about pesky regulations or safeguards, and with taxpayers- not drillers- on the hook for damages and problems.

    This is criminally deceitful and if the governor is a man of integrity, he should never allow it.

  • soulcandy Feb 27, 9:12 a.m.

    The hazards of fracking are real but the politicians are being courted by energy company with lots of money to throw around. Couple that with a complete lack of accountability in government and this is what you get. The real question is what are we going to do about these politicians who clearly care nothing about their constituents and are only there for personal gain? We need to remind them who the actually work for.

  • linkz145 Feb 27, 9:05 a.m.

    Pat McCrory worked for Duke Energy for 28 years and still holds their stock and has a vested interest to benefit financially from Fracking. Clearly Renewable energies are a threat to big oil and gas and will stop at nothing to continue the practice of polluting our environment with fossil fuels.

  • bgibson3 Feb 27, 8:25 a.m.

    Doing this on the "fast track" is going to mean that down the road the citizens of NC will be treated "half fast". If the NC legislators don't protect NC citizens by putting in strict laws and policies up front, the Energy Industry and it's lawyers will take advantage of North Carolinians, reap the profits and leave us to clean up the mess.

  • suncat2 Feb 27, 7:55 a.m.

    Here's another example of problems related with fracking from another part of the country...
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-02/cabot-s-methodology-links-tainted-water-wells-to-gas-fracking.html

    Happy Wednesday, y'all!

  • suncat2 Feb 27, 7:45 a.m.

    Here is an an EPA site that presents information on the impacts of fracking on a small town in Montana:

    http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/wy/pavillion/

    Enjoy!

  • AvidReader378 Feb 27, 7:22 a.m.

    I'm appalled that our so-called "representatives" are rushing into this with total disregard to environmental safety or public opinion. In addition, fracking takes enormous amounts of water and we have droughts every summer. There is no new water, period. What we have is all there ever will be. What falls out of the sky is not new water, but is a result of evaporation. Really scary.

  • ILTBF Feb 26, 9:07 p.m.

    WRAL, N&O or some other news investigation entity.....Are you going to do some real investigative work to follow the money on this legislation. It just reeks of corporate payoffs to pols, unethical behavior, etc. No science, no economic or environmental studies -- Drill, Bay, Drill! Follow the Money to see who is getting rich from this legislation.

  • peterpepper Feb 26, 7:59 p.m.

    The fact is folks, these gas drilling rigs are run by humans and humans make mistakes and have accidents, that has been confirmed.
    All this is bad news, from the forced pooling to the eminent domain to the accidents and damage to/on our roads and most importantly, the LACK OF PROTECTION FOR LANDOWNERS WHO LIVE where this will take place.
    They are giving the gas companies entirely too much power and too little regulation, period.

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 7:55 p.m.

    Did I mention that the majority of our state is in a drought! That our farmers don't have enough water! Yet these frackers want to contaminate millions of gallons of it and destroy our sustainable industries like tourism mountains&beaches, farming, and fisheries all for a few quick bucks that in a few short years will be gone and leave our state contaminated.

  • don23 Feb 26, 7:47 p.m.

    Rebelyell55: "You are dead on right about this and if left to the public, it would not pass. That's why they're not going to allow the public to vote on it. It's a done deal to them. It has cost us million in tax dollars and the first well ain't even been drilled."

    Exactly. It's not a GOP or liberal issue. It's a people issue. We the people...NOT we the politicians. I'm actually a conservative...lower taxes...less government and against fracking and raping our land with serious consequences both short and long term.

  • peterpepper Feb 26, 7:46 p.m.

    geosol.... " Half graben structure with numerous internal faults and diabase dike intrusions. There might be a really good reason why no major company has tried to drill here yet. "

    SPOT ON but what's so scary is they are going to go for it anyway.

  • miseem Feb 26, 7:44 p.m.

    Other changes in the bill include removing the state geologist and water and air experts from the state Mining and Energy Commission.

    Yeah, that makes sense. Sort of like taking doctors out of medical review boards, architects and engineers out of building permit requirements, attorneys out of courtrooms. Because after all, the ones that REALLY know what's going on are the corporations. What could a geologist, air or water experts add to mining and energy production that a profit driven CEO could not do better? After all, he's got to watch out for his shareholders, Those other guys just watch out for the public. And we all know 47% of the public are moochers, while 100% of shareholders are job creators.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 26, 7:36 p.m.

    Take a vote. If the majority of citizens are against it. Ban it. If the majority are for it. Legalize it. The people need to make the choice. Not career politicians. I'm against it. What say you?

    don23
    February 26, 2013 7:31 p.m._____________________________ You are dead on right about this and if left to the public, it would not pass. That's why they're not going to allow the public to vote on it. It's a done deal to them. It has cost us million in tax dollars and the first well ain't even been drilled.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 26, 7:35 p.m.

    Again, there those who focus on the "burning water", that not all of the issues, it's a small part. The bigger issue is laws being pass that can take you land, (for the gas companies profits), force you to accept their mandates on use. If you own land, and have paid taxes on it for over forty years or more, and then the goverment are going to let some out of state company come in and take it? Are you for real going to support these laws and what our "elected" leaders are doing?

  • don23 Feb 26, 7:31 p.m.

    Take a vote. If the majority of citizens are against it. Ban it. If the majority are for it. Legalize it. The people need to make the choice. Not career politicians. I'm against it. What say you?

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 26, 7:30 p.m.

    stymieindurham
    February 26, 2013 6:23 p.m___________ There been many report of low level tremor in all state with fracking, the ones they're concerned about are those who have not had a history of such. You did know that in one state, the governor shut down all fracking operation until further studies was done?

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 7:29 p.m.

    If we conserve our water and land we can build up our states organic farms and maintain them year after year and be proud of what we are. Or we can sellout to big oil and in a few years the wells will be dry our state will be contaminated our farms will be parched our tourism and fisheries contaminated. Think long term and sustainable! Gas is not! It's only a short term solution that will create long-term problems.

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 7:21 p.m.

    In early December, 81 of North Carolina's 100 counties were listed either in moderate drought or abnormally dry. We don't have millions of gallons of water to contaminate for fracking. We just don't. Choose farming over fracking! We are North Carolina and agriculture is our business not gas! Its a false promise that will not last!

  • geosol Feb 26, 7:18 p.m.

    Half graben structure with numerous internal faults and diabase dike intrusions. There might be a really good reason why no major company has tried to drill here yet.

  • geosol Feb 26, 7:14 p.m.

    ?I spent a week in Fort Walton/Destin area last September. I spent lots of time on beaches. Not one spot of oil.

    Wrong! Please try again."

    http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/03/frothy-gunk-from-deepwater-horiz.html

    Sorry, wrong again. But you already knew that, right winger?

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 7:12 p.m.

    Don't contaminate millions of gallons of water by fracking. Use that water for your children's and grandchildren's futures by investing in Organic Farms and lets make North Carolina the proudest state in the union.

  • cruzinlong Feb 26, 7:11 p.m.

    stymieindurham said "http://tv.msnbc." - - - - That's all you had to show me. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Try another source.

    Take time to read it then google earthquakes and fracking for for yourself . Try it, you might learn some facts.

  • JohnFLob Feb 26, 7:08 p.m.

    geosol February 26, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    This "rightwinger" did not, and was not, trying to equate the Dakotas' geologies with any of the widely variable geological characteristics of North Carolina. It would be difficult, at best, to compare North Carolina's geology with any other state. I only chose the Dakotas because they have been so prominent in the news lately. There are numerous sites distributed around the country with few, if any, disastrous consequences.

    Too many of the "burning faucets" used to discredit fracking were "burning faucets" before fracking arrived in the supposedly affected neighborhood(s).

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 7:07 p.m.

    We don't need more cheap energy. Cheap energy is resulting in over building and waste. How many McMansion line our coast with multiple A/C units that run constantly and are only slept in a few weeks of the year. Start Conserving and Stop wasting and polluting! Try focusing on cleaning up the environment for once. We have a health epidemic in this country because of pollution, chemical, pharmaceuticals in the water, leaking septic tanks, Jet exhaust raining down on us. Let's not add to it. We need CLEAN air water and chemical free produce! Be useful and bring jobs to our state with Organic Farms!

  • geosol Feb 26, 7:06 p.m.

    What are the right wing REPUBLICANS so afraid of that they want to kick the STATE GEOLOGIST off of the Fracking Commission? What are they trying to hide?

  • stymieindurham Feb 26, 7:06 p.m.

    This has gone from discussion to comedy relief.

  • stymieindurham Feb 26, 7:03 p.m.

    "http://tv.msnbc." - - - - That's all you had to show me. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Try another source.

  • cruzinlong Feb 26, 7:03 p.m.

    can your well water get contaminated and be lit on fire because of fracking? Yes !

    read this :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/09/fracking-methane-flammable-drinking-water-study_n_859677.html

  • durhamhokie Feb 26, 7:02 p.m.

    Many people, on both sides of the aisle, realize that natural gas is going to be developed one way or another. It's cheap and local. What people are really up in arms about is the dangerous way that it is being streamlined and exempted from our normal laws that protect the environment. I find it mind-boggling that either timex or stymie can defend the REMOVAL of scientists, pumping used toxins in the ground, and loosening our oversight on this industry! The gas companies will make billions off of this, they should have to pay for all necessary steps to ensure that they don't screw it up. There can't be ENOUGH regulations to ensure the safety of us and our environment.

  • cruzinlong Feb 26, 7:00 p.m.

    earthquakes caused by fracking? Yes
    read the following:

    http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/08/fracking-transformed-our-energy-economy-but-its-also-causing-earthquakes/

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 6:59 p.m.

    Fracking in Michigan's Kalkaska County have used and contaminated 42 million gallons of water. What happens to our N.C. farms when all the water is used by the frackers ? 1 to 8 million gallons per well per frack will be lost and contaminated!

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 6:56 p.m.

    Coming to N.C.—The Gulf spill fouled marshes, killed wildlife and closed vast areas to fishing. Scientists warn that the disaster's full effect on the Gulf food chain may not be known for years. They have reported dying coral reefs and fish afflicted with lesions and illnesses.

  • Ex-Republican Feb 26, 6:50 p.m.

    "THAT would end the boondoggle once and for all and THIS BILL WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO HAPPEN." - geosol

    Then you should have absolutely nothing to worry about. Problem solved.

  • geosol Feb 26, 6:50 p.m.

    some right winger wrote: "Have both North Dakota and South Dakota suddenly disappeared and their people converted to zombies?" Well, they DO have quite a few REPUBLICANS there. But to compare North Carolina to North and South Dakota in terms of geology and population (water well) density is ludicrous. But you already knew that.

  • Ex-Republican Feb 26, 6:48 p.m.

    "No, its not. Not all of your precious greasy oil floated to the surface. Sorry! Try again." geosol

    I agree. "Not all" floated to the surface. Normal fluid dynamics found in oceans along with salt and other naturally occuring chemicals caused most of the oil to dissolve.

    I spent a week in Fort Walton/Destin area last September. I spent lots of time on beaches. Not one spot of oil.

    Wrong! Please try again.

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 6:47 p.m.

    Pat McCrory worked for Duke Energy for 28 years! He is a big oil crony! No way I will believe he isn't collecting tips in his back pocket for selling out our state!

  • stymieindurham Feb 26, 6:47 p.m.

    Scare tatics with no proof. "The environmental movement can do more for their cause by dispensing with the boogeyman mentallity. All of this scare talk reduces one's credibility to near zero."

    Very good!!! Scare tatics with no proof. Sounds like the obama road show getting ready to start.

  • durhamhokie Feb 26, 6:46 p.m.

    No, Stymie, you are in fact wrong. The Duke study did find that Brine was not contaminating wells, but other, more dangerous chemicals were. http://www.naturalgaswatch.org/?p=381

  • linkz145 Feb 26, 6:45 p.m.

    There is no shortage of natural gas in fact their is a glut of it on the market. The price of natural gas has been dropping like a rock. It makes no sense to sell out our state for a pittance when the price is so low and going lower. Big oil is stealing our resources for a song and will leave us poisoned life the gulf and their destroyed tourism and fisheries.

  • thayerguy Feb 26, 6:44 p.m.

    "Here we go with another baseless allegation. PROVE YOUR STATEMENT!!!"

    My goodness, wake up, nothing baseless about it. You need serious help.

  • geosol Feb 26, 6:43 p.m.

    Looks like stymie and the other REPUBLICAN activists are going to have a l-o-n-g night trying to defend this latest right wing boondoggle. Many intelligent REPUBLICANS understand that this is not something that we should rush in to. The more intelligent ones understand that the worst thing that could happen is for a fly-by-night LLC to come in and make a huge mess out of this. THAT would end the boondoggle once and for all and THIS BILL WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO HAPPEN.

  • stymieindurham Feb 26, 6:42 p.m.

    Whatev333 - - - - - - -Sorry. the point still hasn't been proven or even defined. It still sounds like a bunch of left-wing environmental gibberish. I trust my Govenor, . . . . Pat McCrory.

  • Ex-Republican Feb 26, 6:40 p.m.

    "Dick Cheney engineered an exemption for fracking companies "

    You know it's scare tactics time when someone drops the name "Dick Cheney". Googling "chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing" returns dozens of sources intent on demonizing this process.

    While it's true that some companies maintain trade secrets on the exact percentages of each ingredient in fracturing fluid, the chemicals themselves are commonly known.

    The environmental movement can do more for their cause by dispensing with the boogeyman mentallity. All of this scare talk reduces one's credibility to near zero.

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