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  • Jav Mar 1, 10:57 a.m.

    My heart goes out to those parents; my son did attend this CDC as an infant.
    There should be more parent and director communication if you have any concerns.
    The only issue I had was with Ms. @...., she has back issues and would wear a back support waistband into work and could not get on the floor with the infants. I asked the administrator (Before the Army took over) why she was working with infants if she could not sit on the floor to interact with the babies. Mind you this woman forgot to feed my child a bottle once, and wondered why my son was so fussy.

    Some of the woman that work at this facility are great woman who have a genuine interest in the children, but you have woman like Ms. @.... who get too comfortable, and who need to move on to another career.

    And that cook who they are talking about, SHE is an amazing upbeat woman—That is, if it’s the one that I remember, from 5 years ago.

  • kermit60 Feb 28, 9:10 a.m.

    I hope this doesn't turn into another case of investigation for months or years and then nothing is ever done. he military always seems to feel they can play by a different set of rules. A child is dead and someone needs to be held accountable.

  • kandleslover Feb 27, 11:16 a.m.

    I am the director of a childcare center and have worked with children for over 20 years. I am so heartbroken for this family. People need to have some common sense when working with young children, especially infants! We do tummy time here, but we never leave the children unsupervised. Infants need tummy time but with close supervision and interaction. Praying for this family!

  • dewpac1 Feb 27, 10:06 a.m.

    What a tragedy.Complete incompetence. I hope Vera Grant is charged criminally.

  • SouthernPackerFan Feb 27, 9:15 a.m.

    no infant should get "Tummy time" without supervision PERIOD
    they do not have the muscle struture to turn over if needed.

    This is child abuse, pure and simple!

  • mewuvbb Feb 26, 5:23 p.m.

    I think there should be something done to the person(s) that were taking care of this child and the other children. And Serious fines to the daycare. So sorry for your loss

  • dlentz2 Feb 26, 5:16 p.m.

    How sad for the parents. I made a tuff choice when my kids were babies to stay at home but some people really can't do that. I think it takes the whole family this day and time to care for the our sweet little babies. I also chose to help with my grandkids and great nieces and nephews. I hope they can find closure in all this.

  • geraniumposey Feb 26, 5:15 p.m.

    In 1992, after reviewing British and Australian
    research on SIDS, the American Academy of
    Pediatrics recommended that parents put babies
    to bed exclusively on their backs in their
    first year.

    At the time, 70 percent of infants in the
    United States were sleeping on their stomachs.

    By 2002, that figure had plummeted to 11.3
    percent.

    Over the same decade, deaths from SIDS fell by half, to 0.57 deaths per 1,000 live births in

    2002, the most recent year for which figures are available, from 1.2 deaths per 1,000 live births in 1992, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.

    Parents--don't let the day care put your young baby on his stomach to sleep. It's too dangerous.

  • Terkel Feb 26, 4:19 p.m.

    "First 2 years, I believe parents should be allowed to be with their kids."

    They are. Have you heard differently? Oh, wait, you want me to hand money to strangers for having babies they can't afford. No.

  • Unbroken Feb 26, 3:27 p.m.

    "I am glad that I chose to leave my career and stay home and be a wife and mom. What is 18years out of a lifetime? I have no regrets...my children are the best investment of my time and resources. We chose to live without health insurance and many times just one mode of transportation as well as minimum meals out, etc. Never used government services, paid our bills and raised well educated children who give back to society. I called myself June Cleaver of the 90's... wasn't popular amongst many but not ashamed.
    atozca"

    Pride goes before the fall.

  • ginnymoorehead Feb 26, 3:12 p.m.

    To "Save It" - please note that this is an government run facility.

  • hollyh515 Feb 26, 2:57 p.m.

    andreanicole686
    Check the american heart association website. You can give chest compressions without breaths, but you need to do chest compressions in order to help with circulation, so it is the other way around. Better to just do chest compressions if you are going to do one without the other. So giving breaths without doing chest compressions really did not help.

  • kbird Feb 26, 2:47 p.m.

    I am a stay at home mom & I for one am not passing judgement. They have the right to work & should not have to be living through this nightmare. They are not the ones to blame here. But by the grace of God go I.

  • lifeq Feb 26, 2:45 p.m.

    Jason & Rachel, you need to move on after grieving . Do not let this incident destroy your life. You are young and should try to have another baby or two. Sometimes it helps get a transfer and move out of city/state. You can always read in the local library every week. Kids love to hear.

    Incident like this does not happen daily. Even daycare ranked as 5 Star has incidents including kids who hurt other kids daily.

    Danger is everywhere. Kids during 2-3yrs old is a very dangerous time when they are curious and into everything. All window nets around NC will not prevent a child from falling out. It happens.

    First 2 years, I believe parents should be allowed to be with their kids. Modern countries including Canada allow each parent to take time off with pay for 1 year to bond with their children. Due to this "infant mortality rate" is so low when compared to here.

  • Save It Feb 26, 2:26 p.m.

    "Why is the place still open and the caregiver not charged??"

    Wait a minute. Where's the pro-business, no regulation crowd? I thought the calling was for all industries to regulate themselves in the name of the "free market". Hard to type that nonsense without laughing as I realize there are several in this forum who actually believe there really is such thing as the magical free market. Or that such a beast would work without ending us all. Corporations kill and endanger for revenue. Like another poster commented this kid was "inventory".

  • andreanicole686 Feb 26, 2:24 p.m.

    " I thought when you were employed at a daycare, you had to be CPR CERTIFIED..."

    "So did I. But remember if they take govt money, it's likely a jobs program so someone at DHHS can have a bigger empire."

    You do, it never says she wasn't cpr certified. Also, the comment the article makes about no chest compressions is making it seem like you have to do them to save a life. You don't and studies have proven it is no more effective then just giving breathes. The worker probably just needed backup when the nurse came. Sounds like the worker should never be around children again.

    And the ones on here making a big deal about sending a child to daycare need to stop being so judgemental. Some people HAVE TO work.

  • Save It Feb 26, 2:20 p.m.

    Close it down, revoke licenses from the operators. Sorry about the jobs. Can't have kids dying and running in the street at any daycare. What disgraceful, dishonorable operators.

  • Minarchist Feb 26, 1:43 p.m.

    And, everyone in that daycare should be charged with child abuse and neglect!!!!
    dmj
    February 26, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    What? Yes Im sure the teacher watching the 3 year olds is also responsible. Knee jerkers are so funny.

  • blessedmomof2 Feb 26, 1:27 p.m.

    As I have tears in my eyes, I pray these parents have peace in knowing Sonny is in heaven with God. Sonny is where we all are trying to get to one day. Have fun sweet baby in the bossom of God.

  • weesiebaby Feb 26, 1:27 p.m.

    Jason & Rachel I am so sorry for the loss of your son..........
    This daycare should be shutdown. I can't believe that the cook and other staff member noticed something wrong with Sonny but did not make an attempt to go over and check on him. They need to be fired and criminal charges brought aganist them as well as the daycare provider that was in charge of Sonny's care. I would like to know what kind of policies did the daycare have in place for their employees when it comes to emergency and crisis situations. I use to work for the school system as a custodian. We all had to be accountable for the safety and well-being of the students no matter what our job title was. Something has got to be done about this. I am so glad wral investigated this story.

  • Terkel Feb 26, 1:12 p.m.

    " I thought when you were employed at a daycare, you had to be CPR CERTIFIED..."

    So did I. But remember if they take govt money, it's likely a jobs program so someone at DHHS can have a bigger empire.

  • ytb781pearl Feb 26, 1:06 p.m.

    I read these comments from the stay at home moms, written with that edge of patronzing tone that I heard when I was raising my kids while serving in the military. Your choices have nothing to do with this heartbreaking story.

  • dmj Feb 26, 1:04 p.m.

    This has to be the most heartbreaking story I have ever read. I cannot fathom what these poor parents are enduring.

    And, everyone in that daycare should be charged with child abuse and neglect!!!!

  • marciamal1 Feb 26, 12:59 p.m.

    sad story - There should have been more supervision in the care of these babies - what a terrible tragedy knowing that you could not do anythng to save this baby from the mistake of the caretaker. I thought when you were employed at a daycare, you had to be CPR CERTIFIED - My thoughts and prayers go out to these two parents.

  • smartmomma Feb 26, 12:48 p.m.

    Such a terrible story. Every working parent's nightmare. My heart goes out to the baby's family. He was born just a couple months before my daughter. I hope the family gets some justice and this daycare is shut down. It should be criminal, leaving a defenseless baby on the floor by himself when he can't even breathe. Every person that works with babies knows that tummy time needs to be supervised at that age. That woman should get some jail time, and the daycare should be shut down, name change or not. How shady of them. They should be ashamed of themselves. I'm so sorry Rachel and Jason. It is heart wrenching. At least you are fighting for your child, so good for you. Keep fighting, and know that so many people are behind you.

  • my2cents-justsaying Feb 26, 12:21 p.m.

    Sigh. As a mother this article made my cry, especially the part about reading to the baby. I will hug my son tight tonight.

    I seriously hope that they pursue legal action to shut the day care down. I also hope that they recover significant financial damages as the result of a civil lawsuit (not that it will heal their pain). Sounds like a cut and dry negligence case, and hopefully the insurance company will just cut the check and save the parents from protracted litigation.

  • ginny159 Feb 26, 12:07 p.m.

    I just wanted to say thanks WRAL for not posting either of my posts and I am deeply sorry to the parents. I wept last night reading this article. I don't know how parents can keep it together even for a moment after losing a child. And to the caregiver and the daycare facility, caregiver should receive child neglect charge at the least and the facility should be shut down and evaluated.

  • sykesmelissa99 Feb 26, 11:47 a.m.

    My heart aches for these parents, words cannot express how they must feel. I have a two year old son, and I cannot fathom the feelings that you are sharing during this time. My thoughts, my prayers, and my heart reaches out to you. I will continue to pray for you guys. Thank you for sharing your story. This is so important for other parents, and perhaps some others will learn from this. I pray for justice, and pray for you guys.

  • Terkel Feb 26, 11:28 a.m.

    stephen_78, thank you and bless you. So sorry you lost your son.

  • Terkel Feb 26, 11:26 a.m.

    "Is this the type of care they would want for their children or grandchildren?"

    People who ignore a distressed infant don't have children, they have inventory.

  • Just Plain Common Sense Feb 26, 11:01 a.m.

    I NEVER PUT MY BABY ON ANY FLOOR ALONE.

  • Just Plain Common Sense Feb 26, 11:01 a.m.

    To the Parents: While the ones who should have apologized did not, I will - I am sorry that your baby lost his life, that you lost your precious baby, who is now an angel in Heaven because people he was entrusted with ignored him. It is heartbreaking and it makes no sense to me. Tummy training? I have never heard of such nonsense. May God bless/comfort you, and give you strength and friends and family to help you carry on.

  • zile1porkey Feb 26, 10:48 a.m.

    God grant Rachael n Jason the strength to move on.I no their hearts will never heal until you take them with you give them peace to be able to live each day to the fullest and to know that you hold their son in your arms. Please give them another gift from heaven and allow them to be parents again AMEN AMEN!

  • gnewsome1 Feb 26, 10:41 a.m.

    Prayers and Justice for the family.

  • heelsgirl05 Feb 26, 10:36 a.m.

    what gets me is that two staff members saw him suffocating and did NOTHING about it. Then, when the cargeiver tried to save him, she did it WRONG! She was NOT properly trained in infant CPR, no matter what she says.

  • Mom120 Feb 26, 10:21 a.m.

    there should be NO tummy time at all.. no matter how old the child is

  • freedomrings Feb 26, 10:17 a.m.

    Why is the place still open and the caregiver not charged??

  • stephen_78 Feb 26, 9:55 a.m.

    I agree there shouldn't be any tummy time without constant supervision. I feel greatly for these folks to lose their son. It's awful. Even more, to not even get any apologies or letters of condolence is even more hard to fathom.

    I lost my 17 year old son and he also was in the hospital several days. He was also generous and brave to be an organ donator.

    I'm like these parents in that I'm grateful for the time we had together and also fortunate for his little brother. Hopefully these folks get through and are blessed with another child to love--as they were with Sonny.

  • Wake1 Feb 26, 9:53 a.m.

    I can only imagine the pain these parents are going through. So tragic anytime something terrible happens to a child. Children - our most precious resource!!

  • lovesanimals Feb 26, 9:29 a.m.

    What a heartbreaking story. God bless you Mom and Dad for the precious baby boy that you loved so much. Shame on the people that were entrusted to take care of him while they were working. I have done a lot of babysitting in my time. And, I would have given my life to save anyone of the children that were in my care. Horrible story...and so sad. Just breaks my heart for this family. May you rest in peace little one.

  • Life_Aint_Always_Beautiful Feb 26, 9:18 a.m.

    This is so sad! Im sitting hear sobbing uncontrollably. I have a 8 month old and I couldn't imagine what the parents must be going through. Unfortunately, I am not able to be a stay at home mom but a family member keeps my daughter so it works out.

  • ginnymoorehead Feb 26, 9:15 a.m.

    Why do people feel the need to post that they are stay-at-home parents? Good for you, but there is no need to get on a moral high horse here. Have some sympathy. Be kind. These poor parents lost their precious child. This is not about you or your choice. You have no idea why they decided to put that sweet child in daycare.

  • Nancy Feb 26, 9:03 a.m.

    atozca, good for you! We made that decision prior to having our first, that I would be a stay at home Mom and raise my children. We knew it would pinch us for a long time and we accepted that vs. having two incomes and 'keeping up with the neighbors' on spending, new cars etc.

    No regrets.

  • annieseppy Feb 26, 9:02 a.m.

    This just absolutely breaks my heart, and angers me relentlessly at the same time.

    Why did it take 6 months for the parents to find the truth in what happened? Inexcusable.

  • computer trainer Feb 26, 8:52 a.m.

    So sorry for your loss.

    As far as not receiving cards from the facility or the people there, not surprised. I am sure that they were told NOT to by the attorneys. That might be used against them in court. Not saying that this is what would happen, but I can see an attorney saying that.

    I find it disgusting that so many people saw this precious child and did nothing, except make a remark. Seriously? Is this the type of care they would want for their children or grandchildren?

  • atozca Feb 26, 8:39 a.m.

    I am glad that I chose to leave my career and stay home and be a wife and mom. What is 18years out of a lifetime? I have no regrets...my children are the best investment of my time and resources. We chose to live without health insurance and many times just one mode of transportation as well as minimum meals out, etc. Never used government services, paid our bills and raised well educated children who give back to society. I called myself June Cleaver of the 90's... wasn't popular amongst many but not ashamed.

  • Country Girlz Have MORE fun Feb 26, 8:30 a.m.

    This death could have been prevented.

  • Goodone2 Feb 26, 8:14 a.m.

    It was all I could to read this without breaking down and crying right here at my desk! The photos of this little boy about put me over the edge. I pray for this family and could never understand what you are going thru. You son was a handsome fella, and hope you get the closure you need.

  • Terkel Feb 25, 7:48 p.m.

    That's just it - daycares shouldn't NEED to be reminded how to care for infants or any age, for that matter!

  • jessicajean2000 Feb 25, 7:44 p.m.

    If the Degenhard family should read any of these post, all I can say is that I AM SO SORRY for your loss! I can not imagine the pain of such a loss, and pray you can shed light on this to save others from the same loss. Choosing to donate his organs was one of THEE most generous things you can ever do, God Bless you all!

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