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  • CandyParamedic Feb 28, 11:43 a.m.

    These double standards in bond exist everywhere, not just when police are victims. A quick read on WRAL over a six month period will leave you scratching your head in dismay.

    That being said, I think there IS a greater seriousness to a crime against police. Before GOLO readers pummel me, I am NOT saying that their lives are worth anymore than the average citizen. What I am saying is that someone who will shoot or otherwise attempt to kill a police officer demonstrates the highest level of disregard for the law and society as a whole. If you will kill a cop you won't even hesitate before you kill anyone else who gets in your way. Cop killers are especially dangerous in that you rarely ever see a person whose only crime is shooting a cop. They typically have long very violent rap sheets, like Brady. Lack of respect for life and lack of respect for the laws of society culminates in cop shooting.

  • Pepe Silvia Feb 22, 12:06 p.m.

    "I am no legal scholar but I think her 8th amendment right was violated with this excessive bond. The 8th amendment has been incorporated against the states." - trekkie13

    There is a lot more to her involvement than is being released to the general public.

  • thepeopleschamp Feb 21, 5:59 p.m.

    "Are we as a society saying that because you wear a uniform your life is somehow more worthy than a regular citizen? Creating two classes of individuals? Government workers and then the rest of us?" nighttrain2010

    Society is not saying there are 2 classes, you are. Over and over again.

  • trekkie13 Feb 21, 5:41 p.m.

    I am no legal scholar but I think her 8th amendment right was violated with this excessive bond. The 8th amendment has been incorporated against the states.

  • nighttrain2010 Feb 21, 5:18 p.m.

    werrewolfwoman - you do realize that under any other circumstances of attempted murder, even with a 'flight risk', the bail wouldn't be $8 million dollars right? Let alone an accessory after the fact be $1.5 million? The ONLY reason it is so high is because the victim was a police officer. Are we as a society saying that because you wear a uniform your life is somehow more worthy than a regular citizen? Creating two classes of individuals? Government workers and then the rest of us?

  • Cee-Lo Feb 21, 5:08 p.m.

    yall are talking about double standards,what about the guy that stole an old ladies purse while she fell asleep in walmart and he got a 1 million bond.....i think all of them should be in jail....but it always depend on who the criminals have to face at the hearing and the publics outcry.....some people kill 1 person and get the death penalty some people kill 10 people and get life in prison.....go figure

  • disgusted2010 Feb 21, 4:39 p.m.

    Actually I'm only talking about the girlfriend who was an accessory AFTER the fact, so yes I see a difference. She actually didn't commit that horrendous a crime comparatively to Mangum or her boyfriend. $50k bond at best for the girlfriend.
    nighttrain2010

    Get elected as a Judge and then you will get to make these decisions.

  • werrewolfwoman Feb 21, 4:23 p.m.

    nighttrain2010-You do realize she is just as guilty as he is under the definition of the law? If she'll hide a potential murderer (he didn't know whether he killed the officer or not) she's capable of just about anything. I think her bond should be as high as his.

  • nighttrain2010 Feb 21, 4:09 p.m.

    >> The other shot a Trooper in the face for no reason and is an absconder from parole supervision from Vermont and hid after his crime. Now see the difference? - subanitov

    Actually I'm only talking about the girlfriend who was an accessory AFTER the fact, so yes I see a difference. She actually didn't commit that horrendous a crime comparatively to Mangum or her boyfriend. $50k bond at best for the girlfriend.

  • North Carolina Cutie Feb 21, 3:33 p.m.

    She should not have picked him up. That was dumb on her part. She had to know he was in trobled if he called her to get him when he was driving himself.

  • I am not who you think I am Feb 21, 3:32 p.m.

    "I guess the Durham PD just figures Crystal Mangum will continue to stay in Durham and commit her crimes. #somethingisaskew" cghsmom

    The police do not set bond. Magistrates and judges do.

    Crystal's bond was reduced by Orlando Hudson

    http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8967178

    and people think the former DA is crazy

  • ImtheHappy1Now Feb 21, 3:31 p.m.

    @pipcolt....they probably got tired of dealing with her CRAZY self! LOL Plus she does have to prepare for her trial since she will be defending herself!?!?!? Really.....

  • sweetcountrygirl32 Feb 21, 3:18 p.m.

    It is just because it was a Trooper. Yes its a terrible thing they both did but they need to treat all murderers and their accomplices the same...

  • aetius476 Feb 21, 3:08 p.m.

    "Crystal Mangum does not have the means to run away, plus she has ties to the community, and it not as likely to leave, hence the relatively low bond." - mpheels

    LOL!!! But she had the means to post a $200K bond or at least $20K in cash to a bondsman. Sounds like means to me....

  • RM24 Feb 21, 3:02 p.m.

    You aren't missing anything. Its a good-ol boys club and you aren't a member.
    soulcandy
    February 21, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    Wrong! Because its two totally different situations with a lot more to each story than your telling! Sorry you hate cops and those that put their lives on the line for you! You the firemen also???

  • ncguy Feb 21, 2:51 p.m.

    Let this girl go- she had no idea and really no time to turn him in.

  • sokersis Feb 21, 2:49 p.m.

    i AM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE MANGUM CASE, I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HER. MY COUSIN WAS SHOT INNOCENTLY BY A RETIRED STATE TROOPER WHILE MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS AND THE TROOPER ONLY GOT A 100,000 BOND BUT IF IT HAD BEEN THE OTHER WAY AROUND, MY COUSIN WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER A 8MILLION DOLLAR BOND.

  • RM24 Feb 21, 2:48 p.m.

    One stabbed her boyfriend during an argument and is a local. The other shot a Trooper in the face for no reason and is an absconder from parole supervision from Vermont and hid after his crime. Now see the difference?
    subanitov
    February 21, 2013 1:51 p.m.
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    Or u could look at reality. For one she should not be free either. However anyone that will shoot a cop to KILL him is more dangerous to society!

  • RM24 Feb 21, 2:46 p.m.

    Pipcolt: she got a reduced bind based in her race. She gets special treatment simply for that !

  • RM24 Feb 21, 2:45 p.m.

    Sorry! Throw the book at her. Tell the parents to keep crying because they are gonna have to raise her kid soon!

  • pipcolt Feb 21, 2:24 p.m.

    This goes to show how messed up our legal system is. If your an accessory after the fact to assault with a deadly weapon and harboring a fugitive you get a 1.5 millon dollar bond. If you commit murder like the Duke lacrosse accuser did to her boyfriend you get out on a 200 thousand dollar bond. God help us all that follow the rules.

  • subanitov Feb 21, 1:51 p.m.

    "Well see he had a uniform on. And that makes them 'better' than us poor citizens. Yes there's a double standard. If 100k was good enough for one, 100k should be good enough for her."
    nighttrain2010

    One stabbed her boyfriend during an argument and is a local. The other shot a Trooper in the face for no reason and is an absconder from parole supervision from Vermont and hid after his crime. Now see the difference?

  • smcallah Feb 21, 1:49 p.m.

    "but this girl gets $1.5M bond for being an accessory to attempted murder with no prior record, and we don't really know what she knew."

    We don't know what she knew? Are we all the Durham police? Do we know what the police asked her or had as evidence that led to her arrest? If they didn't know what she knew, they couldn't have arrested her, charged her, and had the judge set bail.

    They kind of need to know and have some preliminary evidence to get a judge to do that. It doesn't matter what YOU don't know. You're not them.

    Me, I would assume that her boyfriend said he told her what he had done and to come and get him. Or that she was the one that told them she did this. That's how you get a $2.5 million bond.

    If her story was consistent with his, that she didn't know and just went to pick him up, and that she was scared after that, I doubt we'd see that kind of bond or an arrest at all.

  • subanitov Feb 21, 1:43 p.m.

    "I guess the Durham PD just figures Crystal Mangum will continue to stay in Durham and commit her crimes. #somethingisaskew" cghsmom

    The police do not set bond. Magistrates and judges do.

  • aw2012 Feb 21, 1:37 p.m.

    first of all you people that are talking about Crystal Mangum's bomd, you reall need to get your fact straight first, her bomd was over a million dollars when she was first arrested, her bond was lower after third court appearance, it just amazes me, how peoplem continue to have opinions without facts and no I am not a crystal mangum supporter, if it was up to me they would all stay in jail.

  • aetius476 Feb 21, 1:28 p.m.

    But Crystal Magnum, who actually stabbed someone to death with her own hand, and is a known menace to the public, gets out on $200K bond?

    Our "equal justice" legal system strikes again.....

  • nighttrain2010 Feb 21, 1:28 p.m.

    >>BUT IF YOU SHOOT A STATE TROOPER YOU GET AN 8 MILLION DOLLAR BOND. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE. - sokersis

    Well see he had a uniform on. And that makes them 'better' than us poor citizens. Yes there's a double standard. If 100k was good enough for one, 100k should be good enough for her.

  • mpheels Feb 21, 1:26 p.m.

    Bond is not a punishment. Bond is based primarily on whether or not the suspect is likely to leave/skip out on court dates. Judges may also consider the likelihood that the suspect may harm others while awaiting trial, but that is not the primary consideration. This woman is not from NC, and her only tie to NC is the guy she tried to help. She is a high flight risk, hence the relatively high bond. Crystal Mangum does not have the means to run away, plus she has ties to the community, and it not as likely to leave, hence the relatively low bond.

  • chattycat Feb 21, 1:24 p.m.

    "And yet Chystal Mangum get's off a murder with $200K Bond????"

    That was my reaction to the headline as well.

    tran

    Where are the folks that are always screaming racism?

  • littleriver69 Feb 21, 1:18 p.m.

    Life in prison. End of story.

  • SaltlifeLady Feb 21, 1:16 p.m.

    "Obviously this girl is not with this guy because they met in church and had to move because he was called by the Lord." - Whatdowehavehere

    What???

    Also, I have to agree with everyone else... Crystal Mangum who can't stay out of the light of the law gets a $200K bond for murder and house arrest, but this girl gets $1.5M bond for being an accessory to attempted murder with no prior record, and we don't really know what she knew. Yes, obviously a flight risk, but still. There is an issue with our justice system. I guess the Durham PD just figures Crystal Mangum will continue to stay in Durham and commit her crimes. #somethingisaskew

  • pclong2214 Feb 21, 1:14 p.m.

    she came here with him from vermont. i guess she thought he was leaving vermont to look for employment here. i guess they both dyed their hair for fun. "my car broke down" was that his car or did he "borrow" it from someone?

  • miketroll3572 Feb 21, 1:02 p.m.

    And yet Chystal Mangum get's off a murder with $200K Bond????

    Agreed. Tells ya something!

  • tran Feb 21, 12:59 p.m.

    "And yet Chystal Mangum get's off a murder with $200K Bond????"

    That was my reaction to the headline as well.

  • godshelper Feb 21, 12:55 p.m.

    She had enough time to figure it out and yet she never went forth until she realized the cat was out of the bag and that they would be coming for her soon. I am sure it is the same old story we always hear..."but i love him and we are gonna have a baby soon, and I couldn't bare the thought of him getting caught and going to jail so I didn't say anything in hopes that you people in North Carolina would just forget about it in a few days." Make an example out of her!!!!!

  • masontom56 Feb 21, 12:47 p.m.

    And yet Chystal Mangum get's off a murder with $200K Bond????

  • Pepe Silvia Feb 21, 12:41 p.m.

    "We have no idea what he said or threatened to do to her or her baby. Let's get the facts before rushing to judgement." - kornfan2448

    I've had the same thought. I'm also curious as to what he said to get her to come pick him up... if he said "I just shot a cop, come pick me up" then the accessory charge fits. If he said "I broke down, can you come get me?" and THEN once she did he told her what happened she may have been fearful of her life/the baby's life.

  • pause to consider Feb 21, 12:38 p.m.

    Why does anyone expect our courts to make sense or be balanced? They are run, ruled and managed by lawyers that use a complicated series of favoritism, precedents that don't apply and rankings by their hourly fees to determine the outcome of most criminal cases. So, relax, neither of these folks will get hard time and will be back in the streets do do more harm by the time you forget about this old news....

  • FUSP Feb 21, 12:35 p.m.

    I'm glad that kornfan2448 pointed out that we should not jump to conclusions. We DON'T KNOW what he told her when he called her to pick him up. Would you not go get your boyfriend/husband if he called & told you he broke down & needed a ride? And once she was there we DON'T KNOW if he THREATENED her. He was armed at the time. And her being 7 months pregnant is relevant because the State could be facing a lawsuit if she or the unborn child is injured while she is in custody. I do agree that it shouldn't matter if it was a State Trooper or a regular Citizen but unfortunately reality is in addition to her being a flight risk, that was a factor in setting her bond. Either way, I pray for her, the unborn child, the State Trooper & the their families. As far as I see it they are all victims to this man's actions.

  • whatdowehavehere Feb 21, 12:29 p.m.

    Obviously this girl is not with this guy because they met in church and had to move because he was called by the Lord. However, as bad as it sounds, how do the authorities know what she knew? Did she pretend he wasn't in the apartment? I missed that piece of the puzzle. This guy could be feeding her lies such as: "My car broke down and I need you to pick me up, I'm at the mexican restaurant in the back."

  • I am not who you think I am Feb 21, 12:23 p.m.

    She is charged with accessory after the fact, and gets a $1.5 million dollar bond, but Crystal Mangum is charged with MURDER, and her bond is $200k?????

    crystal must have had her bail reduced by Orlando, the girlfriend's bail was set by someone else. can't be any other explanation in Durham

  • hedgy_one Feb 21, 12:14 p.m.

    Another case of a needy girl getting mixed up with the wrong guy! For all we know, she might not have known that he shot a HP Officer when she picked him up. She probably knew he had done something to get in trouble, but she probably didn't know (or realize) the ramifications of her actions. Young love is blind!

  • dookie4life Feb 21, 12:10 p.m.

    ITS CALLED FLIGHT RISK PEOPLE!!!!!!! 2 people from Vermont with Vermont tags charged with shooting a Trooper in the FACE!!!!! and you wonder why their bond is so high?

  • heelsgirl05 Feb 21, 12:00 p.m.

    sokersis, the guy is a flight risk. he was on parole in VT and fled from that state. He was wanted there because he was involved in over 100 robberies, one of which he cut a woman 5 times and she suffered a traumatic brain injury. If you are a violent offender and flee, they up your bond on purpose so you can't get out! I DOUBT that the retired officer had ANY record, and I am sure that he was NOT a flight risk

  • scg Feb 21, 11:58 a.m.

    I think bonds were high because it involves a Law Enforecement Officer. We have to protect our officers who are protecting us.

  • soulcandy Feb 21, 11:57 a.m.

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A NORMAL CITIZEN MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS CAN GET SHOT BY A RETIRED STATE TROOPER AND HE ONLY GET 100,000 BOND BUT IF YOU SHOOT A STATE TROOPER YOU GET AN 8 MILLION DOLLAR BOND. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE.

    You aren't missing anything. Its a good-ol boys club and you aren't a member.

  • sokersis Feb 21, 11:51 a.m.

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A NORMAL CITIZEN MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS CAN GET SHOT BY A RETIRED STATE TROOPER AND HE ONLY GET 100,000 BOND BUT IF YOU SHOOT A STATE TROOPER YOU GET AN 8 MILLION DOLLAR BOND. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE.

  • tomfoolery Feb 21, 11:48 a.m.

    She is charged with accessory after the fact, and gets a $1.5 million dollar bond, but Crystal Mangum is charged with MURDER, and her bond is $200k?????

    I know, right? I should head over to Durham one day and hang out in court... Seems like it would be cheap entertainment, or maybe they could create a partnership with Barnum & Bailey, and charge admission.

  • rachmcfar Feb 21, 11:47 a.m.

    Our legal system is a joke. It was bad a trooper got shot, but some murderers do not even get a bond that high, and this woman was charged with accessory? I guess any crime that involves a law enforcement officer is more important than any regular citizen in this state.

  • my2cents-justsaying Feb 21, 11:44 a.m.

    I think what probably increased her bond in this case is her lack of ties to the NC area- she is a flight risk. Given that she's pregnant and would probably not want to be incarcerated, she has motivation to run. Of course, the victim in the case also plays a role.

    Crystal Magnum's bail was reduced over time. It was set at 200k in january, but was previously higher. This girl's bond will be reduced eventually too.

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