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tinchrus Feb 22, 6:17 p.m.
I have known this officer for 19 years, he is an honorable man with a impeccable service record. In addition to his 14 years with Chapil Hill police department; he served honorably in the US Army for 5 years. His honesty and integrity are above reproach. There were at least 30 of his colleagues standing behind him at this hearing. This is an injustice to our Chapil hill police department. Let alone to Corporal King. Hopefully this panel of 5 will right this wrong.
HappyGirl08 Feb 22, 4:59 p.m.
Well, there is a lot of wrong on both sides here I think.
pbc0203 Feb 22, 9:38 a.m.
Ridiculous! You're talking about a man's career & livelihood. If it was you, or your brother, or husband, or father, I doubt you'd say 'he got what he deserved.' The punishment does not fit the violation. You wouldn't want life in prison for running a stop sign.
Stop wasting taxpayers money on this case, give him his job back, and keep convicted felons behind bars so they can't shoot Troopers!
TH Feb 21, 7:27 p.m.
good lord..everyone is pretty high and mighty..."it wasn't the only strike against him"...you must be crazy if u are a cop with limited time to take off and have never called in sick b/c only 2 people can take off at a time and didn't call in sick. we work 12 hour shifts and only a certain number of people can take off at a time..not true to those who work a non-essential 9-5 job with a lunch break. what a shame.
turtledove Feb 21, 7:18 p.m.
The guy would have been better off if his supervisors saw him stealing. He would have kept his job and everyone would have looked the other way. He didn't lie he told them what he was going to do. Unfortunately this person was made an example of to scare the masses for something else going on.
Sherlock Feb 21, 4:07 p.m.
And there are others including the chief that have NEVER done this????
mpheels Feb 21, 2:10 p.m.
As an employee of the Town of Chapel Hill, he receives between 12 and 26 paid vacation days a year (dependent of years served), 12 paid sick days, 11 paid holidays (or compensatory pay/time off if he has to work holidays), and 3 days per year to attend funerals or loved ones (if needed). As an adult, it is his responsibility to budget and use his vacation leave over the course of the year. If he was using sick leave for a vacation, he either had already used all of his vacation time for the year, wanted to save his vacation for something "better," or knew his request for vacation time off would not be approved so he planned on just calling in. I agree with other who have said that termination might be harsh, but I'm guessing his misuse of sick leave wasn't the only strike against him.
Relic Feb 21, 1:16 p.m.
A cop who lies to anyone in charge (even if another supervisor "knows" about it), even on what in another job would be a "minor" issue, should be terminated. Period. The difference between a good cop and a bad cop is integrity and once you've lied you've destroyed that with your agency. Period. You lie, you're done.
heelsgirl05 Feb 21, 1:09 p.m.
If he was going to call in sick, then he probably knew that he couldnt get the time off anyways.
4Strikes Feb 21, 11:47 a.m.
"His supervisors should have been fired as well." Morrigan
Even if one of them is a woman?
Terkel Feb 21, 11:41 a.m.
" If they had the ability to use their time as they deem necessary,..."
But they don't, and they agreed to the terms of the job.
What's happening when there are no rules because hey, I'm a good guy, I deserve it? To turn it around, would you object if they suddenly told him they were arbitrarily taking his vacation time away because they "mis-scheduled"? Why not?
Terkel Feb 21, 11:30 a.m.
His supervisors should have been fired as well. We hear too much about planted weapons and such as it is. They collaborated with him on this, they may well have lied before, and they'll lie again. As I suspected, the old boys network.
4Strikes Feb 21, 11:27 a.m.
"HIS RUMP HAS LOST ALL credubility and he knows dang well he abused the policy and he needs to forget about trying to correct his deficiencies as a person with integrity problems in reference to getting his job back." wildpig777
Geez, the guy called in sick...
4Strikes Feb 21, 11:26 a.m.
"One company I worked for for over 15 years had the best policy. They simply termed it as "paid time off" or PTO. It was combined and you used it at your discretion, be it sick or vacation time." kornfan2448
Did you work for me? I think a lot of companies do that now..State workers are different though.
baldchip Feb 21, 11:26 a.m.
You lie to your boss-you get what is coming!!
Thou shalt not lie??? This is not rocket science!!
wildpig777 Feb 21, 11:09 a.m.
HIS RUMP HAS LOST ALL credubility and he knows dang well he abused the policy and he needs to forget about trying to correct his deficiencies as a person with integrity problems in reference to getting his job back.
kornfan2448 Feb 21, 10:49 a.m.
One company I worked for for over 15 years had the best policy. They simply termed it as "paid time off" or PTO. It was combined and you used it at your discretion, be it sick or vacation time.
OleNCNative Feb 21, 10:36 a.m.
It's not that big of a deal. People call in sick all the time. We should not be holding this man to a higher standard than that to which we hold ourselves.
The chief was new on the job a year ago. Maybe he was trying to make an example of this man. At any rate, let him back on.
4Strikes Feb 21, 10:33 a.m.
"It's an integrity issue. He should have been fired." Hill55
If this were the case, they would have to let the whole force go.
4Strikes Feb 21, 10:32 a.m.
"RIDICULOUS!!!! Pay the officers more, then they won't feel like they have to use sick leave to "pay" for time off. I know MANY state workers who "violate" this policy ALL THE TIME. It's their leave, they earned it, GET OVER IT." jennifer23
I think being fired was probably a little harsh, unless there were other reasons, which there probably were. As far as the comment to pay them more, you have got to be kidding me. These guys make plenty, and most state workers are way overpaid already. I know lots of cops, most of them are scam artists like you would not beleive. Trust me, they know how to work the system better than anyone.
nghtstarz2 Feb 21, 10:29 a.m.
Number one: If they had the ability to use their time as they deem necessary, this wouldn't be an issue. If he used his vacation time for an illness or to care for an ill family member, no one would have anything to say. Number 2: If this had been handled internally, as it should have been, the effect it had on his past or future cases would not matter. Number 3: The punishment should fit the crime. He took paid days off in a manner not according to department policy so give him unpaid days in return. Firing is a slight over-reaction. Number 4: His supervisors "knew" what the plan was. How did it become an issue to begin with? Were they disclipined? Did they tell him it was okay? Why would he go if he thought he would lose his job? Number 5: I'd be willing to bet most have taken a mental health day before.
King of Ignorance Feb 21, 10:26 a.m.
I think the officer and his colleagues have been taught a lesson. If he's a good officer, it will cost a lot of money and time to replace him. Reinstate him and put him on probation for a year or so.
kornfan2448 Feb 21, 10:24 a.m.
"He added that he told his supervisors ahead of time that he was going to Florida but would be calling in sick."
If that is indeed true, then he should have been disciplined at the very most, not fired.
bubbba Feb 21, 10:10 a.m.
Dont think the Chief had much choice. Penalty was severe and he
and supervisors are responsible.
outhousecat Feb 21, 9:17 a.m.
He told his supervisors what he was planning to do. If they had a problem with that, they should have spoken up then.
godshelper Feb 21, 9:16 a.m.
You took an Oath to protect and serve with honor and dignity!! "You made the choice to dishonor yourself and the badge!!! Now deal with the consequenses. Better look for a new job at Walmart or the State Troopers. You will fit right in there!!
I am totally against this man going back to work as an officer because of his untruthful nature but to drag State Troopers into this is uncalled for. Especially when there is a Trooper who was shot this week doing his job for little pay and no reward. I am not a state trooper and never have been, but I think our State Highway Patrol of 1800+ state troopers is a very professional agency and i stand by them. There are bad people in every line of work but not all of them are bad. So check yourself before you attack others...you probably work at walmart yourself and if you dont karma may see to it that you do one day.
godshelper Feb 21, 9:11 a.m.
It is not the principal of what he did so much as it is the ethics behind the situation. He violated his ethics when he was dishonest about the reason he needed to be off. I agree with the police chief. This officer used deception to hide his actual activities. Its not the fact that the police chief does not like him its the fact that he can no longer be trusted in his chosen profession because he has been labeled as a liar. He will never be able to get rid of the title in the department as a person who is known to speak fictitiously. He will never be able to go to court and testify in a case because he is known to make fictitious statements about actual events. Worst thing you can do as a police officer is lie no matter how small of a lie it is. The chief is right, it goes back to credibility.
ms b Feb 21, 8:54 a.m.
I suspect there is more behind the scenes going on. If the chief were 100% happy with this officer, he probably would have chosen a less severe punishment.
graybeamer Feb 21, 8:43 a.m.
What employer reserves the right to tell an employee where he should be when he is sick? Further, what employer has the right to know what sort of illness an employee has? ....he could have been approved stress leave by his physician.
Quite frankly, he probably needed legitimate sick time away after dealing with Chapel Hill for 13 years.
If the guy admitted he lied about being sick he should be discliplined. Aside from that he has done nothing wrong.
Hill55 Feb 21, 8:23 a.m.
It's an integrity issue. He should have been fired.
itneverchanges Feb 21, 8:19 a.m.
You took an Oath to protect and serve with honor and dignity!! You made the choice to dishonor yourself and the badge!!! Now deal with the consequenses. Better look for a new job at Walmart or the State Troopers. You will fit right in there!!
jennifer23 Feb 21, 8:09 a.m.
RIDICULOUS!!!! Pay the officers more, then they won't feel like they have to use sick leave to "pay" for time off. I know MANY state workers who "violate" this policy ALL THE TIME. It's their leave, they earned it, GET OVER IT.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03