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John8.32 Feb 22, 12:48 p.m.
Notice the Captain bars in the picture of the Sergeant that was fired. He was demoted 2 times before they let him go. From Captain to Lieutenant then from Lieutenant to Sergeant. WRAL should look into the reasons behind that as well. He also didn't work at that department for 18 years. He was previously a North Carolina State University Police Officer and left under questionable reasons. Maybe the new secretary will keep a closer eye on the department and stop the habitual hiring of other agency's bad apples and rejects.
OpinionatedMama Feb 21, 1:38 p.m.
NONE of you know what you're talking about! NEITHER of these men did ANYTHING wrong. The entire fiasco is because of one young woman wanting people to bow down & kiss her youknowwhat & causing problems where there aren't any when people don't bow to her! She'll get hers in the end! Guaranteed!
less_govt_is_better_govt Feb 20, 6:30 p.m.
Hmmmm... So I guess they just ignored the state law that covers that, eh? Sure they did.... - Relic
actually, there is no state law covering that. you know it, I know it. here's an idea - PROVE IT
there is a state law covering perjury - perjury is intentionally and knowingly making false statements under oath. police use each other to try and avoid this, i.e. subordination of perjury
Rebelyell Feb 20, 4:20 p.m.
They will be off work for about two years, then get reinstated with all back pay--as soon as the political tide changes.
stymieindurham Feb 20, 3:22 p.m.
"Crooked cops????????,what about a crooked state?,even a crooked presidential candidate from NC?????????"
John Edwards doesn't have anything to do with this, does he?
Relic Feb 20, 2:49 p.m.
"What about cheating on your wife? Does that merit an investigation as well? What if the SCP are cheating on their wife with a state employee - does that merit an investigation?"
You missed a lot of those stories on the Highway Patrol in the last few years, didn't you?
Relic Feb 20, 2:24 p.m.
"unless what they did was a crime.. then it IS NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS."
No. If a law enforcement officer is charged with a crime, it's public record. WRAL's run several stories on bad cops being charged with crimes. Only public employee administrative investigations are outside of public record with some exceptions of information that are public record. Sorry. No black choppers here.
IPayYouPay Feb 20, 1:54 p.m.
What about cheating on your wife? Does that merit an investigation as well? What if the SCP are cheating on their wife with a state employee - does that merit an investigation?
lroyal10900 Feb 20, 1:50 p.m.
There are guidelines with secondary employment...1st, it has to be approved by the agency; 2nd, you don't know if they were doing their "other" job duties while on duty with the State Police. There were 2 State Troopers fired in the last year or 2 for "working" their 2nd job while on State time. That is against policy. There are many factors that could be in play here.
Stilllearnin Feb 20, 1:43 p.m.
What law enforcement background did ex-chief Asion have?
jaydosse Feb 20, 1:25 p.m.
Well at least he has a pleasant smile. Can't be all bad. What type of second job could pose a conflict of interest?? Why shouldn't they be able to moonlight?? These days, most folks work several jobs just to manage their strained household budgets. Something smells fishy here!!
dollibug Feb 20, 1:20 p.m.
Government agencies are allowed to SWEEP CORRUPTION right under the rug.....and GOD help you if you try to get anything redressed in a court of law....the is the CLOSED NETWORK for just how the NC JUDICIAL SYSTEM WORKS...http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-929049 link provided also has some info on just how things work in NC....or NOT.
The Anti Hans Feb 20, 1:02 p.m.
And they wonder why we don't want the police more involved in firearms registration ... they can't even keep track of their own.
MonkeyFace Feb 20, 12:44 p.m.
unless what they did was a crime.. then it IS NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS.
Relic Feb 20, 12:39 p.m.
"his dept had no policy saying that deputies could not falsify reports, so the deputy was not in violation of policy."
Hmmmm... So I guess they just ignored the state law that covers that, eh? Sure they did....
Truth Time Feb 20, 12:07 p.m.
less_govt, hiding behind internet screen names and spreading lies... Unbelievable
Relic Feb 20, 11:58 a.m.
"In fact, wht do they even bother making the firings public if the details are left out?"
Because the firings are public record and if agencies DON'T release public records it's really "hiding" things. The details of the investigation are not public record under law. Period. If the officer's appeal the firing through the state's grievance system then at a point the details do become public record.
Pleasepostmycomments Feb 20, 11:56 a.m.
Maybe they were working for the 2nd party while they were supposed to be working their state job!!
MonkeyFace Feb 20, 11:51 a.m.
raliegh rocks... no its not.. cops do it all the time.. do you know what they get paid?
Police Dog Feb 20, 11:46 a.m.
GLAD HE IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
North Carolina Cutie Feb 20, 11:38 a.m.
It's like anyone else you're not making enough money to live the life you desire you get a second job.
davidtew2005 Feb 20, 11:37 a.m.
jim22 You may be exactly correct in all you said. But how do we know anything if the state will not release the actual details of the reasons of their firing? In fact, wht do they even bother making the firings public if the details are left out? Why bother?
less_govt_is_better_govt Feb 20, 11:32 a.m.
They can't. Nor can they release many details about the dismissal of ANY state employee under NC Personnel law, so it's not just cops. The law was put in place to keep people from going in and digging in public personnel files just to use stuff for political leverage (which was what was happening before the law was passed) - Relic
And the good ole boy network is trying to make sure this type of public information do not make it to light. Police internal affairs reports are a BIG COVERUP in NC. There is a reason Sheriff Donnie Harrison went scurrying to his law staff. He knew if he had to present information about PUBLIC EMPLOYEES being paid with tax dollars, citizens of wake county would question why he allowed a deputy to falisfy an incident report and warrant and was allowed to keep his job. Simple, his dept had no policy saying that deputies could not falsify reports, so the deputy was not in violation of policy. The deputy is still on at the dept. sketchy I tell you...
Brogden Feb 20, 11:28 a.m.
jim22 - the word is "pray" not "prey" - they have far, far different meanings!
jim22 Feb 20, 11:17 a.m.
Chief Asion and Sgt. Franklin are seasoned officers that were serving the state. Obviously something went wrong with the off duty work. There was no criminal act, no corruption. A procedural error at best. This was not a termination level event. We all make mistakes but in law enforcement as you climb the ranks one mistake and you get burned at the stake (and on the evening news). Both of them worked relentlessly to service the state workers and visitors to the government buildings downtown. Please think of the person not the uniform, title or rank. This has tremendous negative consequences for both involved. As you have figured out I know both of them personally and professionally. I still hold them in very high regard, and prey that they will both land on their feet quickly. Please don't be so quick to judge. If you ever had the opportunity to have lunch with one or the other, you would see genuine good people and enjoy their company. It's easy to judge, let's show some grace to them
Relic Feb 20, 11:12 a.m.
"They aren't releasing any details."
They can't. Nor can they release many details about the dismissal of ANY state employee under NC Personnel law, so it's not just cops. The law was put in place to keep people from going in and digging in public personnel files just to use stuff for political leverage (which was what was happening before the law was passed). Want that changed? Lobby the legislature to change the law.
FFDP Feb 20, 11:02 a.m.
To clarify, there was an occurrence in Cumberland County several years ago where sheriff's deputies were also participating in secondary employment providing security a various functions. The problem occurred when they were on the clock for Cumberland County and also on the clock with the secondary employment. Upper management a also got into trouble not because they had the secondary employment but because they new about the individuals who were doing this. I suspect that this may be the case in this situation... Or some variation on the theme.
less_govt_is_better_govt Feb 20, 10:46 a.m.
This is merely the TIP of the iceberg
all this malfeasance was going on willfully and knowingly under the watch of the crook Reuben Young while he was running the Dept of public safety in order to keep his "good ole boys" in the dept in cushy office jobs with top pay
HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Feb 20, 10:40 a.m.
Also, I know as well as anyone that some police officers have the holier than thou attitude and are very much on a power trip but there are also a lot who simply love to do what they do and take an enormous amount of pride in serving/protecting the public. It just irks me when someone can dislike ALL cops, or dislike all of anything. Just shows how shallow they are
vile garbage Feb 20, 10:38 a.m.
They aren't releasing any details. But with every criminal they catch doing wrong they openly give all details. This is one of the reasons law enforcement gets little to no respect.
justanotherstateworker Feb 20, 10:38 a.m.
Mr. Acion is NOT a crooked cop as stated below. He was a wonderful Cheif that cared about his fellow employees and allowed them to work a second job in order for them to be able to provide for their families.
HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Feb 20, 10:34 a.m.
It never ceases to amaze me they want people to put their lives on the line and pay them a average of $36000. Then they get punished for working second jobs so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck. I know there are certain jobs they would have a conflict of interest in but come on. Let me be clear I'm no fan of police officers, but I'm rational.
Sooooo you're not a fan of someone willing to risk their life for yours for ANY amount of money but you'll stick up for them.....sometimes? How can you stick up for them, not be a fan, and be rational all at the same time? I think you'd be a bigger fan if no one was willing to do that thankless job and you had no one to call when you needed help. Funny how you had to clarify your disdain for cops. Self contradiction is about the only thing you accomplished
Terkel Feb 20, 10:26 a.m.
What did they expect when they chose a community agitator who advocates for criminals in charge? We'll never know what he did wrong.
pause to consider Feb 20, 10:20 a.m.
Could this story be more vague? Come on WRAL, dig as least a little please.
ylmclean73 Feb 20, 9:49 a.m.
It never ceases to amaze me they want people to put their lives on the line and pay them a average of $36000. Then they get punished for working second jobs so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck.
I know there are certain jobs they would have a conflict of interest in but come on. Let me be clear I'm no fan of police officers, but I'm rational.
Viewer Feb 20, 9:37 a.m.
"Because it is a personnel matter. Unless there is a crime, not agency (or business) is ever going to release the details around a termination. bill0"
However the employee can release the information to the public, if he is innocent.
Lightfoot3 Feb 20, 9:27 a.m.
"how is a cop crooked for working a second job?" - MonkeyFace
I'm assuming it's more than simply that. Maybe there are rules against it. Maybe they hid some information regarding it. Maybe they lied about things to hide that information. Etc.
Uhavenoclu Feb 20, 9:10 a.m.
Its always nice to see crooked cops go down."
Crooked cops????????,what about a crooked state?,even a crooked presidential candidate from NC?????????
bill0 Feb 20, 9:05 a.m.
"Why are the details being withheld ?"
Because it is a personnel matter. Unless there is a crime, not agency (or business) is ever going to release the details around a termination.
4Strikes Feb 20, 9:01 a.m.
"After news broke of the internal investigation, Asion told WRAL News that he didn't do anything wrong."
Sure, he's not doing anything that everyone else isn't...liberal interpretation of right and wrong.
Get ready for liberals to call it an evil McCrory witch hunt every time some corrupt government hack gets canned.
jgilchr Feb 20, 8:54 a.m.
Why are the details being withheld ?
Raleigh Rocks 1 Feb 20, 8:42 a.m.
Monkey face, could be a conflict of interest
MonkeyFace Feb 20, 8:32 a.m.
how is a cop crooked for working a second job?
more cowbell Feb 20, 8:16 a.m.
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?
balog Feb 20, 8:15 a.m.
I smell a witch hunt all over state government. Anyone who remotely seems to NOT buy into the McCroy doctrine, gone.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2014-06-24 16:03:36